Hello,

Despite the holiday season, we continue with our regular developer updates. Today’s build comes with more converter improvements:

  • Russian ruble sign is now recognized by currency converter, try: 500₽
  • Time wasn’t converted if suffixed with dot or comma
  • [Win/Lin] prefix and value have different colour

In addition to stability improvements you can notice some of these changes:

  • UI colors are more consistent across product and between platforms
  • Tooltips of sidebar icons where glitchy when hovering over them
  • Chrome and Yandex was shown on a list of browsers to import from even if they were not installed
  • Various fixes for issues when importing bookmarks from other browsers

Check the changelog for the full report.

Installation links:

Maciej Kocemba

Product Manager, Opera for computers. Previously Product Manager in R&D department and Opera Mini for iOS. Joined Opera over 11 years ago. Still passionate about coding, mountain / road biking when not working.

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  • nanana1

    Thanks for this Opera 48 Developer 48.0.2657.0 bug-fix update today !

  • Ara Rezaee

    Why does the VPN take me to the Ukrainian google page every time I search something? I’ve set it to the US and it still takes me to https://www.google.com.ua

    • Alex Wazovskiy

      LOL

    • _artem_

      cuz you’re an ukro bandera nazi 😉

      • Ara Rezaee

        I’ve actually never been to Ukraine and thats exactly the problem, cause every time I search something I have to change the language to English which is very annoying.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Open ‘Local State’ in a text editor, look for ‘”location”:{“country”:”br”,”country_from_server”:”BR”,”timestamp”:”1509985767600000000″}’ and change the country code to the one you want.

          See if it helps.

  • Nekomajin43

    The converter is better in this build, but I still think it should be unified. Either show the whole source in every case, or show only the target.

  • Alex Wazovskiy

    Mistype Mistype: “Chrome and Yandex was shown on shown on”

  • Eugene B.

    https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2017/07/opera-developer-48-0-2652-0-update/#comment-3413089010
    Not fixed. 🙁

    Plus what about this bug: DNA-61403 “[WebUI] Custom search engines added twice”
    I still can reproduce it easily.

  • Олег

    Please add Ukrainian hryvnia to currency converter.

    • Hans Hansen
      • FluffyBoyo

        How about adding a UK VPN option. That would be good.

      • _artem_

        very nice 😉 banderas don’t deserve to have their crap currency to be supported ))

  • Michal

    Sorry for being off topic here, but is Opera Mail regularly updated?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Nope, it stopped being developed some years ago.

      • Michal

        That’s sad, but thanks.

  • firuz_u7

    Sorry that is off topic but Opera for android will release updates or it was abandoned, the latest update in February version 42 and more there were no updates, Mobile team blog can not leave comments if not difficult answer my question.
    I like Opera I use both on the computer and on the smartphone thanks for your hard work but I would like to see that Opera for android evolved like the Desktop Opera

    • qwerzaq

      Whether there will be an answer or not, while it is not known

  • Rudric

    Some suggestions:

    – Unify the two sidebars, either way both must have on/off toggle button

    – Vertical bookmarks bar

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I think that a bookmarks panel, like in Opera Presto, would be better than a vertical bookmarks bar.

      • ͕͗F͕͕͗͗i͕͕͗͗n͕͕͗͗d͕͕͗͗u͕͕͗͗s͕͗

        I think he means exactly that.

  • Nekomajin43

    Guys, I’d like to ask you to fill a survey to somehow quantify the feature requests: https://goo.gl/forms/RtwV9af9Ot3I7waB2

    We are almost at 200 answers!

    Some features (bookmarks export, expanding the number of recently closed tabs in the tab menu, unit converter) are already being developed. (They will be removed from the list once they reach the stable branch.)

    The classic lazy loading is new on the list. If you have already submitted your votes, just open the link again, and you can vote for the new additions.

    I know it’s not representative, but it may help to show the trends and the top most wanted features. We’ve got some positive words from the devs, no promises though.

    If you find anything missing from the list, please comment here or in the forum: https://forums.opera.com/discussion/1883544/opera-browser-feature-survey

    • Nekomajin43

      We have passed 200 answers! Thanks everyone!

  • Oleksandr V

    Hi!

    I’m really curious about a few thing that I have noticed not so long ago in opera.
    Could you please provide any comments, because I completely lost the understanding of the direction where Opera moves in it’s development.

    1) Why after leaving a video from full screen video, some additional space appears on top of the browser, and what is even more strange,it dissapears when click on any other tab.

    So, my questions are: why does this space appears? how it can be disabled? What is idea behind this feature?
    I really tried to find any sense in feature, but I simply can’t do it. Totaly annoying bug.

    2) Another issue I faced trying to remove some suggestions from the address bar. Firstly I removed all data (history, cache etc) from the browser but it didn’t help. Then I checked whether it is present in “stash/bookmarks” but this web-site was not in the bookmarks(because i removed it some times ago). I spent more than 10 minutes trying to figure out what is going on and finally I did it. This web site was still present in bookmarks basket.
    So I wonder, what is the sense of keeping website in adress bar suggestions if user have intentionally removed it?

    3) Freeze on vpn, still makes me crazy.

  • Alexander Chernig0v

    Opera 44.0.2510.1457 (PGO) THE BEST!!

  • Tratsing

    Is it possible to implement ,,Salary/Wage and Tax Calculator” to Opera pop-up converter?
    I am thinking about a workaround like this: http://www.calkoo.com/en/salary-calculator
    Personally, I prefer that before using this, there could be an option by which the user can select to what country the calculation method belongs to, so all users can benefit of it. For example my link belongs to Estonian salary law.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Don’t know but I think it may be a little bit too complex. Also, it would convert from what to what?

      • Tratsing

        It would convert salary from bruto to neto and vice versa,

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Well, I don’t really think it would worth the efforts to implement that feature.

          • Tratsing

            Many employers and employees will love this feature, just as every designer loves unit converter as they need to convert units during work to save time.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Why would they like it? How would Opera know that the value is a salary and not something else?
            It would depend on too many parameters that may be variable.

            I still don’t think it would worth the efforts to be implemented.

          • Tratsing

            Making work faster and more effecient in terms of speed is what every person who works values.
            The determination of the value should be added to the setting ,,Pop-out settings” to somewhere in ,,Settings” so Opera could make a user specified decision.
            Another option could be that there are rules on which website salary converting executes.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            From where Opera would get the parameters to do the conversion? There are reliable sources, with an API, with the necessary info for all countries in the world?
            There would be too many variables to deal with.

            What would be a user case for this converter? I don’t seem to be able to see one.

          • Tratsing

            Perhaps the owners of http://www.calkoo.com/en/salary-calculator would share parameters or Opera developers will figure it out as there is not a one site for parameters or no specific patent.
            People who want this service might point out which sites uses salary data specialized to their tax system.
            Never say never, there are already systems and programs available that use very complex variables in a big quantity, for example in financial field.
            A user case is that he/she could fastly find out what their salary is in bruto or neto and a employer can have a fast chance to see what their expense is for worker(s).
            Instead searching from google the site for converting salary, they will right-click and see the result insantly (the result parameters/options could be defined in Pop-up settings).

          • Leonardo Gomes

            So there may be info for two countries. What about the others?

            If the user would need to inform the site to be used as the source of the data then they could just go to that site and use it.
            Also, it wouldn’t be like if you were adding a search engine. The site would need to provide an API so Opera could get info from there.

            And why someone would need to go to a page, like this one for example, select a number and get a neto salary in return?

            I really don’t see people doing it. At least not that often.

          • Tratsing

            Demand creates possibilities. If there are countries which data is non-transferable, then option to use their data is impossible right now. Only countries whose data is available shall be used.

            I am thinking that ,,inform” looks like this: user selects only one time from settings which source to use. Opera has already different sources added to settings as it is with currencies right now. Next time, when user wants to convert bruto to neto, then it just needs to use right-click method (as it is with currencies right now). If it would be just the source for data, then why the currency converter has positive feedback? There are many sites that offer conversion for free but users of web-browsers still prefer this as a option of web-browser.

            People need it to see how much they will really get after all the taxes has been taken off. If pages like this exist, then there is a demand for them. It is not just a number but an salary. Salary is very important to cope with life.

            The main target are freelancers and job seekers. The number of these are not reducing, so the demand for these service continues to be actual.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Well, what you want is a calculator and not a converter.
            And i still can’t see how it would fit on a browser.

          • Tratsing

            If a calculator can fit on a search engines and operating systems, why not on a software too?

          • Leonardo Gomes

            A calculator in an OS makes sense, maybe in some softwares too. In a browser? I’m not so sure.
            At least not that kind of calculator.

            I’m still missing a valid user case for it, something showing how someone would use it in a regular web surfing day.

            Also, how would it benefit the company?

          • Tratsing

            A usual calculator in a browser exists (typing 2+2 to Google search engine in address bar gives you a result 4).
            Finding a job day-to-day and at the same time, for a deeper understanding of a job and curiosity, a job seeker can calculate neto every day. Until it finds a job. In Estonia, people are mainly searching work from internet!
            The company can more faster calculate the expense for employee and taxes for state.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            OK, but I’m pretty sure that both the companies and those seeing for a job know or at least have an idea about how much they will pay or be paid.
            Companies for sure already have a software or a Excel spreadsheet to calculate salaries.

          • Tratsing

            Companies can take benefit of this in their worker’s home. If for any reason, there are no spreadsheets available that will do the quick math.
            When you read job postings (at Estonia), then most of them are in bruto. But workers are most interested in neto, because this is what they shall get. 😉

          • Leonardo Gomes

            By companies I meant the browsers makers.

          • Tratsing

            Then their need for this is not so big. But during working, they need to use web browser, so it might make a benefit for them too.
            Theoretical part has been substantial, so I think that practice of this calculator would show how needful it is.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            I was talking about benefits more in terms of monetization. If browser makers implement such feature, would it help keeping current users and/or bring new ones so it would worth the cost of adding it?

            I think that feature could be of a limited needing. For employers it would be better to have the info on a database so they could easily found it and for employees, after a while they probably would already know how much they would get just by seeing the brute salary.

          • Tratsing

            If this option would had a enable/disable available, then it keeps current users and bring new ones.
            In a country, where tax system is almost the same throughout many years, the workers might get a big picture, but in a country where this information changes at least after every 1-3 years, this feature has a need.

          • Nekomajin43

            How should Opera know the taxes of all the countries of the world? Conversion of units is easy, and the exchange rates are available from one source. But your issue is very different. It may be possible to achieve with an addon, if you manually enter the necessary data, but it’s far from the field of a web browser.

          • Tratsing

            Can the functionalities of add-on be migrated to a web browser? For example Opera has built-in adblocker but there are same/similar complex addons available.

          • Nekomajin43

            You still don’t understand, that the problem is with the data source. Do you really think, that they will spend resources to manually maintain an up to date database of tax rates from all over the world?

          • Tratsing

            Now I see. But is it possible to make it update itself automatically?

          • Nekomajin43

            Yes, it is. But you need an up to date database, which does not maintain itself.

          • Tratsing

            What about a scramble script that updates it within specified frequency?

          • Nekomajin43

            And from where does it collect the data?

          • Tratsing

            From different sites that already has this functions (there are many sites like http://www.calkoo.com/en/salary-calculator).

          • Leonardo Gomes

            The calculator exists in Google’s page not in the browser itself. 🙂

  • Tratsing

    With the update to this latest developer version, the options of jump list of Opera icon in Windows 10 64-bit taskbar, works as normal. But with previous versions, the options of jump list didn’t worked (for example, nothing happened when clicked on ,,New private window”). This has happened occasionally for about with 4-5 previous developer versions. So, this might not be an installation problem, but an bug.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      So it’s fixed now?

      • Tratsing

        With the latest update, jump list is as it should be again but it has been for a half a year like this.

      • Tratsing

        With the latest update it is back. This happens occasionally. Very bug-like behaviour.

      • Tratsing

        Today it is automatically fixed again. Looks like it is not an installation problem if I have not updated Opera within yesterday and today.

  • Merkulov Sergey

    Tell me, do I understand correctly that in current (47+) versions you can not configure the browser so that tabs are loaded only on demand. In the settings there is an option “Load background tabs with a delay”. And in flags there is a phrase “delay” the same – Lazy session loading enabled by default.
    Earlier in opera://flags there was one more option (which could be found by the word delay) which did just the load on demand. Instead of delayed loading of tabs, as now.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It seems that after the experiment period they decided that ‘extended lazy loading’ should be the default behavior, so background tabs will be loaded progressively.

    • Nekomajin43

      You can vote for this feature in the non-official survey: https://goo.gl/forms/RtwV9af9Ot3I7waB2

      It’s new on the list, but already popular.

  • Sidney Guioy

    the time converter is really awesome !

    but strings like “10 AM PST” are not recognized ( it need to be “10:00 AM PST” ). but obvisously, on social media ( tweeter for me ) the “:00″ part is never written, so if shorts string can be recognized that would be awesome ! ” also for strings without the “AM/PM” like “17PST” or “21 GMT”

    Thanks a lot !

    • Kornelia

      Thanks for the output. Can you give any screenshot because I’m not a twitter user and as I can see, there is ‘HH:MM’ format there and no time zone displayed.

      • Alan Gonzalez

        Select (www.abc.efg) without link format
        =
        Search | Copy | Go to

        Add “go to” pleace

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Keep spamming your request will not make it to be accepted.

          • Nekomajin43

            You really don’t help with these answers.

            Anyway, it would be a very nice addition to the “smart” popup to handle selected text exactly like it would be typed into the address bar. If it is a valid URL, open it, do not search it. You don’t even need an additional option in the popup, because you can show “open” or “go to” label instead of “search”.

            I don’t understand why it does not work this way from the beginning. Non-linkified URLs are very common, and doing a regex match before calling tabs.create is not a big deal.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            In this case I wasn’t really trying to help. 🙂

          • Nekomajin43

            Because developers ignore evaluate user requests, the only strategy that may work is doing it by force.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Or maybe do a good request, trying to elaborate an user case showing how the new feature could be helpful and worth the implementation, instead of just say ‘please add this’.

          • Nekomajin43

            This feature was asked many times, even before the search popup. If you browse web pages on a daily basis, there is nothing to explain about this feature.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Well, ‘Go to web address’ has been there since a long time.
            Some people have been asking for that it open the page in a new tab, what is another request. That I support by the way.

            And like I said, the point is not how many times or since when something is asked but how it is asked. The better it is requested, more easy will be for Opera people to justify adding it to their superiors.

            Also people should always have in mind that a request can or cannot be accepted.

          • Nekomajin43

            We have clearly a different view about how user requests should be treated.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            As I said in a reply to a previous regeneration of that comment, I think that it could be an interesting feature.

          • Alan Gonzalez

            I do not think I read the messages, what else do I have to communicate the idea?

          • Leonardo Gomes

            You had already communicated your request /suggestion in an earlier post about a week ago so there wasn’t any needing in posting it again that soon.

            Post it once and wait to see if they will accept and implement what you suggested.
            If it don’t come in the next three versions then you try again.

            And when posting your suggestion, don’t forget to show why it should be added, preferably with a good user case where the feature /option would be helpful.

            And always remember that suggestions can or cannot be accepted.

          • Alan Gonzalez

            Sorry but I do not care what you say, I will publish my ideas as many times as necessary. I do not know what role you have inside the blog, nor am I interested, in any case only a moderator should tell me. In addition, this is an open place to publish ideas and suggestions, and particularly I will not stop publishing my ideas until they are answered or until the free expression ceases to exist, but also, can close the comments and thus avoid this kind of problem. Please do not answer my comments any more or I will have to block you. Thank you!

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Like you said, this is a open place so I will reply to any comments I want to. You can block me if you want.

          • Nekomajin43

            He clearly stated, that his problem is the ignorance from the developers. It’s clear that this blog only exists to report bugs, not requests. Actually, it seems that, despite of what they say, they ignore every request and do what they want to do, developing a browser for themselves, not the users.

          • Ted Baker

            It’s not spam, it’s a feature request. If you don’t like it, too bad.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Making the same request in almost every post in a short period of time is nothing but spam.

      • Sidney Guioy

        oh sorry, forgot to answer you, when i said on tweeter, i meant the people writting stuff, not tweets hours.

        so you can have tweets like ” i will stream towmorow 10am (pst)” or thing like that, i know it’s not easy to match all the different cases for hours but i think that’s were many would use that feature

  • FluffyBoyo

    My usual two suggestions. Try out your own version of FF tab scrolling left and right with the mouse wheel. Using kinetic scrolling, with settings for acceleration and deceleration.

    And continue the dark mode UI onto ALL settings pages.

  • Der Herr Nick

    Bug or feature? When going back to the previous page (backspace/” Scroll down –> Click on a pic –> go back

    Very nasty when using Twitter with auto refresh extension.
    On stable branch everything’s fine.

    • josemuk

      I have a similar problem with github. For example, go to https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pulls and click, for example, on the Valgrind PR; scroll down to the bottom and go back with a mouse gesture or backspace: Opera is now at the bottom of the PR page.

  • Viajante no Mundo

    Where are the 32-bit versions for Linux? There is no 32-bit version since version 46.0.2573.0 !

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Support for 32 bits Linux has been dropped.

  • Валера Башер

    Please, Add Ukrainian hryvnia(UAH), ty

    • Tina

      We aren’t currently expanding list of supported currencies, but if we do we will try to get UAH covered.

  • scam

    https://i.imgur.com/hpLdwk2.gifv

    Opera does not play similar gifs. Others browsers are ok.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      That GIF plays here. I’m on Windows 10.

  • Rudric

    Please add these/this simple feature:

    – Vertical bookmarks bar
    And/or:
    – Toggle button/indicator to open/close bookmarks bar

    Horizontal bookmarks bar takes quite much screen real estate.

    Also please consider:

    – Unify the two sidebars

    Thanks 🙂

  • Down Under

    please add this little function in opera, export html file for bookmarks.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It’s already there.

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    New developer: 48.0.2664.0

  • Tratsing
  • M Arafat

    why did you hide the vpn & turbo settings so deep. i .love opera 46 with it’s easy to use vpn switcher.
    what are you thinking!!