Opera Developer 23: Now with Unprefixed CSS Transforms

Today we move the developer stream to 23.0.1499.0 and with it another big bump to our underlying rendering engine, allowing us to keep up to date with the latest web standards.

As our long-term users will know, standards are very important to us here at Opera. The latest example of this is that Opera 23 now supports Unprefixed CSS Transforms. Something I know that many of you have been waiting for. To ensure that we can have further such improvements, a number of our developers are currently participating in the BlinkOn 2 conference (a conference for Blink contributors). Being part of such a conference allows for the kind of collaboration that should help open the web even more.

Future improvements

I thought I would spend a moment to talk more generally about Opera for desktop computers and our development efforts. In addition to the work on 23, we have many ongoing projects to further improve your browser. For example, we currently have internal projects looking at improvements to bookmarking and even more installer work. We can’t promise you will see the results right away but don’t think for a moment we have slowed down in our efforts!

Collaboration with other browser vendors

It is not just internal work however. As mentioned above, Opera is actively working to engage in further cross collaboration. This isn’t limited just to our work on Chromium, Blink, V8. Recently some of our developers have also been working with a Mozilla technology, PDF.js. Our work on PDF.js has a little way to go and is not the only avenue we have explored. From these results however, we concluded that PDF.js is a very valid candidate to be used as the default PDF viewer in the Opera Browser.

Testing

As the first developer build for 23 and with a big bump to our rendering Engine there is always the chance that something could be broken, despite our very best efforts! Therefore, please give this release a thorough test and let us know if you find any issues.

Known issues

  • The page loading icon is in the wrong location on Windows

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  • Кostadin

    First?

  • zakius

    ok, so you did blink job, v8 job, pdf.js job
    what about opera development?

    I mean the frontend that makes opera different from chromium

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

      Not much to showcase right now on the UI but as mentioned above stuff is underway. One small thing that you can see as work in progress is changes we are making to the URL field to aid adding a page to Speed Dial, Stash or the Bookmarks bar opera://flags/#heart-menu That flag is only in Mac at the moment, not windows and is subject to changes. Hence why I did not highlight it.

      • Wraith

        In other words: we should wait for 24-25-26 release!

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          I think if you look at the Changelog you will find reasons why you might want to use this version.

          • NoName

            I like all the small bugfixes, don’t get me wrong.
            But the issues I actually notice on a day-to-day basis has yet to be fixed (since Opera 15), which is sad :(

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            I understand. Indeed there are things I wish we would focus on first but the priorities for fixing things must be done for the majority, rather than on a per user basis.

          • escruting

            Should we focus on a lot of little things so it seems that we are doing a lot of work? or should we focus on big things and do REAL progress being able to also do some of the little things at the same time?

            Months are passing like flies on a pigs ass and Opera is not evolving fast enough.

      • zakius

        Allow us to disable speed dial, go directly to stash, CUSTOMIZE GESTURES, READ NEWS PROPERLY.
        I love the stash and download manager (this is the easiest browser to run downloaded thing, unfortunately if exe have no “requires admin” flag but it requres it we still have to open download dir :/)
        I love the speed of blink (but it is too forgiving for received code IMO, not only it makes bad development tool but also wastes resources for fixing attempts)

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          By “go directly to stash” do you mean that on opening a new tab it would display this instead of Speed Dial?

          • SQL

            I’d like that myself, that’d take about 5 minutes to implement from you guys too :D

          • zakius

            actually: about:blank or homepage newtab and button showing stash, but stash on newtab would be still beter than speed dial for me

    • Michael Pürmayr

      the frontend is only one (and not the most important) part of a browser. I am glad they are working on all parts all the time.

      • zakius

        Yeah, it’s good that blink and company evolve
        But I feel like only 1 person of opera desktop team left in opera desktop and works part-time and others spread around other projects looking at how much time it takes to implement core features to frontend

        • bruce lawson

          We have more people working exclusively on desktop than we ever had before.

          • zakius

            well, just as user I have pretty opposite feeling
            a lot of blink, v8, also pdf.js (common parts) and well, we got Aura, right, that was probably pretty big
            but not much changes in the “exclusive” part

  • http://mustafahasturk.com Mustafa Hastürk

    Okey, I’m waiting 24.

    • Vux777

      me2 ツ

    • fanboi punisher

      For what?

      • Saskatchewan

        Twenty for ;-)

        • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

          24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24…

          • Saskatchewan

            88 times 24… that gives 2112 in total… a symmetrical number that starts with 2… so I read the first two digits and I get 21… the current stable version of Opera… and the last two digits is 12… Nope, I’m still not quite sure what you wanted to say by that.

          • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

            This is my stupid post :P Don’t care about that ;)

    • L33t4opera

      ;-)

  • IllusionMH

    I have wrong loading circle position for tabs and sometimes favicon blinks while loading.
    Any confirmations?

    Windows 8.1 x64

    • Vux777

      yes

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

      Yes, sorry I should have mentioned it above. I’ll do so shortly

    • serendipity1002

      at first, i thought that was a new UI change. then i realized it was a bug, though a minor one, then i keep paying attention to the that circling quarter of a circle…then i got unreasonably annoyed due to its constant blinking when mouse is moving

      • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

        Pretty sure this is fixed now internally.

  • fanboi punisher

    Yeah we have waited for Unprefixed CSS Transforms for so long… and for that installer installing easyness also…

    Speechless…

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

      I detect a note of sarcasm! ;)

      Actually, many web developers have indeed been waiting for Unprefixed CSS Transforms. Additionally I wouldn’t knock the installer improvements we have been making of late. The UAC is a major annoyance and small downloads for updates are always good right? Particularly with the frequency of updates.

      These changes might not be to your taste and that is fine but many people will appreciate them.

      • fanboi punisher

        Sorry to ask this but those many people who will appreciate them are from “that other” big user base you have and doesn’t visit this blog, the one you are referring to everytime the community/user base of this blog (forums are dead anyway) ask for something really “browser related useful” to happen since O15?

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          I would expect that the readership of developer blog posts in particular would be the kinds of people who care about web technologies.

          • fanboi punisher

            Thank you for your time and patience. You really think though that these features will bring more people to Opera and not drive away the remaining old-timers who hoped for something really useful at last, since the last dissapointing versions? This is not a tech-programmer place let me remind you, people here are users that expect advances in browser ergonomy and usability. I wish you would say more about your future plans for them instead about your contribution to the Blink project.

          • bruce lawson

            Yes; that’s why we do them. Heavily active usage is up; people who download and then stop using the browser (“churn”) is down.

          • Sax

            And the overall market share?

          • SQL

            I’m really not sure about Opera :D Sometimes i think you’re awesome but sometimes things just seem quite confusing. I really hope you are listening to people here. Still hoping for a simple option to control the UAC behavior, forcing people to autoupdate is just wrong, you Opera representing web freedom, protocols support (at least tried to), you very well should know that forcing people to eat certain things is not a nice thing.

        • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

          When Opera used its own engine and nobody coded for it, people used to complain. Now that they are maximizing the chance for web page authors to code their sites without worrying about obscure prefixes for Opera, people are still complaining. We sure are a curious lot.

          • NIBB

            The problem is that this are not even Opera features, they are just ported from Blink, so its not like Opera software created, invented or developed anything new either.

            Taking some standards from another engine, taking an open source code like PDF.js and then calling this features is something Joe at home can also do. You don´t need to be a software company for that.

            The complain users have is that on each new release there is maybe 1 new feature and its so minor that users wonder what they are doing for months. People do care about web standards and yes they are appreciated as well bug fixes, but this does not put Opera on a different league vs other browsers either. On mobile Opera is awful now since they switched to Blink, i tested it several phones and its able to crash almost any Android device, its to heavy on resources for phones as opposed to the old opera mobile. So in that regards its actually a huge step back.

            I do think going with Blink was a smart move, since web pages now finally work without any troubles, but the browser itself in terms of features is lacking vs the competition, even in basic functionality. And since its almost a year, I think this is the cause of users frustration. Also Opera users are very passionated, this is actually a good thing.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Well, that’s not entirely fair. Three (maybe four) things come to mind that are important features and don’t come from Blink:

            1. The “maybe”: Aura integration. It seems to be a very complex matter, and I totally believe that the devs were working on it for weeks or even a couple of months. I say “maybe” because I think it can be considered technically part of Blink, but… they changed the GUI engine. That’s not simple.

            2. Opera’s Speed Dial, with specific extensions, is unique to Opera. They had to rebuild it for the Blink version. That takes time.

            3. Opera’s gestures are also unique. No other browser has them (maybe Firefox just now, if I didn’t get it wrong, and I don’t know how well they work). All gesture extensions are cumbersome and flawed. Opera just got it right. That also takes time.

            4. Custom search engines. Again, they had to recode it for the Blink version. Another exclusive feature of Opera, that other browsers only have in a very limited and flawed form, only via extensions.

            Also: autoupdate takes a lot of testing, lazy session loading takes a lot of testing, Sync takes a lot of testing, and so on. The devs are not only working on new features, but also working on features that already exist, killing bugs, and testing, testing, testing. All of that takes time.

            The Android thing is out of scope because this is the Desktop Team blog and we discuss the desktop versions. I don’t think I have ever installed Opera Blink on my phone, so I cannot speak about it.

            The “basic functionality lacking” issue, on the other hand, *is* relevant, but frankly, I don’t see many “basic” things missing. A bookmark manager would be the most glaring omission. The rest of the browser is more than usable, in fact it’s my primary browser and I rarely have to open another. What “basic” features (apart from the damn bookmark manager) are you missing?

          • repoleved

            ad 3. Could You please provide an explenation for why there is no mouse gesture for tab changing? Since maybe O6 there was a possibility to click right mouse button + scroll and this was probably one of most powerfull gesture i have ever stumble uppon in history of web browsing. Opera is a TAB browser with MOUSE GESTURES so i see no point in lack of such a basic functionality. If I can do almost anything with mouse (regarding browsing) why I have to use ctrl+1 ctrl+2 to change tabs?

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            You can’t be serious when you call something “one of most powerfull gesture i have ever stumble uppon in history of web browsing” and “such a basic functionality” simultaneously. If no current browser has it out of the box, it’s certainly not that basic after all.

          • YemSalat

            I couldn’t agree more mate!

            Hate opera “fans” these days.

            What happened to the spirit? Why not support the company with the lowest market share who has just swapped their whole codebase? And especially the one that is giving out their product for FUCKING FREE??

            Stop crying about the bookmarks, I’m so happy that at least they survived in Link since 2005 (which is 9 years now) and I can still access them.

            And also realize that you dont need a Linux version that much now. You guys are the geekiest of us and would probably complain and hate it the most anyway

          • Jeff

            lol nice case of Stockholm syndrome.

          • YemSalat

            Do you really think they’re so evil that they don’t reimplement all the features at once?
            Or they’re just being jerks or something? Ehm, grow up..

            I am happy I can go back to opera from chrome, cause it has all of it’s features already.

            The only thing I really need at this point is Link, but I realize how hard sync can be to implement.

          • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

            Did you EVER used functions which were in Opera 12? If no, go away. We, real Opera fans don’t need fanboy’s of new Opera.

          • YemSalat

            Yes, I switched to chrome shortly after 12 was released.
            I used heaps of the functionality that other browsers did not offer. But at the end of the day it is a browser and
            I just couldn’t use it any more cause too many sites did not work properly.

            And stop calling yourself “real” Opera fans, cause you’re the ones being jerks to the company at this point.

          • Ksnoo

            I used the old Opera a few years and switched to Chrome because it offered stress-free browsing in a simple UI. That was the reason that explains the fast success of Google Chrome: it came to the point and didn’t molest the user with tons of geeky options for the sake of customisability. There are two type of user: one which need hundreds of options to give themselves the illusion of having freedom and the other who enjoy their freedom to just use a browser for its origin purpose. The geeks and the laid-back average Joe who even didn’t know what a fanboy is. So, dear Opera team, thank you that you have even increased all the good stuff that chrome invented and that you continue your good work despite all the offendings. Nevertheless, try to implement a bookmark manager and bookmark-icon. :P

          • štrajkeria

            “I am happy I can go back to opera from chrome, cause it has all of it’s features already” Ok, I just need side-panel, bookmarks, and auto-fill forms on right click (insert personal)

          • SQL

            I have to say – Opera’s speed dial is actually just a html page that anyone can create. It’s literally links on a pretty html page. That’s something even i can do. Nothing against Opera but it’s a bit.. eh, I don’t know any correct words but just wrong. It’s like – you build a browser – create a html page with links and set it as home page.

            AND So is Stash. And extensions page. And history page. Of course they’re not 100% plain html / javavscript stuff but like the browsing history is stored in a some kind of an database file (haven’t actually checked what file is it) but everything you see in Opera apart from GUI is actually just html to be honest. The thing i don’t like in that is the fact of how ridiculously easy it is to create such things. Anyone semi-good with computers could just set up a custom server and have their own speeddial stored there.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Of course. And I could have programmed the whole browser in a stack of paper. I can write ones and zeroes, after all.

            (BTW Web coders must love you, my friend.)

          • SQL

            There is a *slight* (ehm) difference between programming and scripting. html is scripting. I thought these guys were programmers :p

            My point: If a company wants to do internal pages why would they do it in html? It’ll be alot more reliable just hardcoded in C++ if they want to do so. Html just feels so cheap.

            And hell yeah web coders love SQL – way better than other db’s

          • Vux777

            I was trolling about that whole last year…and then I gave up ツ
            it actually doesn’t matter…it’s working, right?
            and new html speed dial is much faster then presto one…
            users can’t manipulate with it that much, but from programmatic side, it’s much more powerful (it has all html5, css3, JS… possibilities)
            …IF devs ever decide to open it for user customization

          • SQL

            Yeah, but after all C++ is a safer choice for doing such things;

            1. Imagine that Chromium / Blink has a serious issue with viewing html / js / whatever. Basically all of Opera’s internal pages would be unusable. Yes, the chances of this happening considering the Chromium / Blink tests are very low, but something to keep in mind.

            2.Imagine a virus. Which one does virus modify easier; Html or compiled C++ ? Yeah, that’s what i thought too.

            It’s just WRONG to use html in these things considering all the aspects of it.

          • Vux777

            well F#%$/&!!!!!
            I was just about to finish writing a long comment, when Opera reloaded this page ๏̯͡๏
            %#&%$#(%(%$
            anyway….
            O devs must stay on Blink stream, if they deviate from it (inserting their own c++ code) it would be hard to stay on track with it

          • YemSalat

            C++? *safer* for such stuf??? Paleease..

          • kapsi

            “Anyone semi-good with computers could just set up a custom server and have their own speeddial stored there.”
            Then they can write the rest of the browser as well. It’s just letters and numbers in text editor….

          • SQL

            We’re talking about two completely different things. Webpages are like the easiest part of software engineering ever created.

            you could literally set up your own speddial with

            Speed-Dial

            xxx

          • kapsi

            So you can with C++!
            #include
            int main()
            {
            std::cout << "Speed dial" << std::endl;
            return 0;
            }

          • SQL

            Too bad we can’t add any C++ functionality to Opera ourselves, as that was my main point. If Opera created Speeddial with C++ it would be sorta better and something the users just can’t create theirselves

          • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

            Opera has added a lot to Blink in terms of bug fixes or improvements, I would say they are committed

      • zakius

        UAC is horrible, when non-admin user uses one browser and admin another the update job have to be done “manually” (run browser, click yes :p) by admin anyway

      • Nekomajin42

        Will you allow us to turn the autoupdate off and get only notifications? I’ve been asking this for month, and noone answers.

      • Alex Parker

        “Actually, many web developers have indeed been waiting for Unprefixed CSS Transforms”

        So develop a browser for web developers, if Opera Team clearly fails to develop it FOR USERS.

    • icetom

      I read most comments here, but I dont recall anyone and certainly not “many of” us demanding something about unprefixed css.
      But hey, who knows :D

  • Vux777

    I removed vendor prefix from CSS, but still, .content script is broken in new developer build.

    iFrame bug??

  • Vit K

    Opera is really nice browser, but the possibility to customize is still quite low.

    Is there a plan do enhance built-in downloader? I want the possibility to execute program on completion of download of files with specified extensions, as it was in older Opera. Or at least automatic opening of specified filetypes.

  • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

    sth. is terribly wrong with downloads. I noticed this with the last builds not just this one:
    If I download the install file in Opera, it’s incredibly slow (10kb/s or so?!) -> 1h to download
    If I then start it in Chrome, it’s full speed -> ~ 15 seconds!
    They are both downloading at the same time with a totally different speed.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Thanks, Ruarí!

    Now that there’s not much that we can see in the new build’s UI under Windows, I’m going to tell everybody about the communication I’ve had with ESET tech support concerning two problems I’ve encountered with Opera working in the presence of ESET Smart Security 7. Maybe it will help anyone.

    So, the first problem, quite an old one, is that Opera launch is significantly slower when the option Detect changes in networking applications is on (default value). For some time, I’ve been under the impression that this problem has been solved, but it turns out I must’ve missed something. The signature of the problem is that a huge amount of reads is done upon startup, ~600 MB, taking ~14 s on my Intel Core2Duo 3.0GHz with SSD.

    ESET does not see anything to do about it, as their software is just checking the processes as they are being launched. If Chromium spawns 10 processes, that’s okay, ESET is going to check opera.exe each time. Multiple (10 times) reading of opera.exe in 4096-byte chunks is the exact reflection of it. The amount and duration of the reading directly depend on the size of opera.exe. If it were 100 kB, we wouldn’t’ve noticed anything, but it’s 45 MB. Since ESET does not do anything special here, Opera will probably work the same with other antivirus/firewall suites running in the same modes. We’ve already observed that with ZoneAlarm. Reducing opera.exe size would help. Adding opera.exe to exceptions helps, but is not good, as its path changes from build to build. In ESET, it does not work anyway, though: even if I add it to exceptions, it’s still checked and start-up is slow. So there’s nothing that can be done, except turning off the option.

    The second problem is that Opera won’t autoupdate when SSL filtering is on. No matter how autoupdate is launched, by opening opera:about or by Windows Task Scheduler, under a regular user or Local System, it’s just not working. This happens because ESET intercepts SSL connections and replaces valid certificates with its own, effectively performing a man-in-the-middle attack. Opera autoupdate module expects a valid Opera certificate to ensure it’s working with a correct website and receiving a correct content. Instead, it receives something signed with a third-party certificate. Adding opera_autoupdate.exe to exceptions is not good, as it requires manual operation, because the updater’s file path changes from build to build.

    Thanks to Tarquin Wilton-Jones, of Opera’s Security Group for the explanation and help with this issue! Concerning SSL filtering, he added, ‘Note that
    if you allow third party software to intercept HTTPS connections, this prevents
    the browser from checking for MitM attacks on any website, and means the
    browser cannot verify the identity of a secure website. This is a significant
    reduction in your security. Although anti-virus products may think they are
    doing this for a good reason, it is not something we would recommend.’

    I’m using SSL filtering to cut out ads and unnecessary content that comes via https. So I can move the https blacklist to AdBlock, for example. If I want SSL filtering on, I can add autoupdate.opera.com’s IP to the SSL filtering exception list. (By IP, because it’s how the exception list is organized in ESET.)

    So that’s it. Hope it helps anybody.

  • escruting

    Man, this is too geeky for me. CSS? What is that, huh?

    I thought now this was the browser for normal users and not minority users. Still hesitant to follow only one direction? Its time Opera decides what it thinks it should be and stop messing around.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Mainstream browser, but this blog is for enthusiast. ;)

      • escruting

        You use the same blog for Dev, Next and Stable.

        A mainstream browser should please the mainstream user.

        Aura-> Nothing the eye can tell a difference
        Seamless updates-> It already autoupdated without almost asking (no check update button, it starts download and applies update automatically).
        And thats just the last couple of months, but i could continue until the start of Opera Blink.

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          A mainstream browser should please the mainstream user.

          And I believe it does.

          However I think it is ok to talk about AURA or web technology features here because mainstream users do not generally read blogs like this one. So everyone here (and especially those commenting) are already a special case.

          • escruting

            I haven’t seen anything different with Aura, just that when i click on the download button it takes longer to appear (because of the new fading animation).

            Thats it, thats the only thing that changed for me and almost every other user of Opera.

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            Fair enough but we do have to make these back end changes to allow us to move forward in the future. We could just not mention them but then we would be even more silent and that is not what people want. Additionally by mentioning stuff like this readers of the blog have some context of why a bug might have appeared.

          • rufu2

            You are of course right that the basic plumbing needs to be done, and done right.
            But escruting is right that this is not “sexy”…
            I like his proposition: have a flag to show new features, even if these are still very early in development and may be unstable and unsafe. If someone uses the development stream and then goes to the flags and then clicks to activate something that’s pre-alpha — well, this person knows it may crash, but he will be happy to help with testing and reporting what’s happening.

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            In one way it is good you didn’t see any major changes with Aura. Step 1 was to release a build that worked as well as the previous non Aura build. So that step was a success then it seems.

            The internal builds when we first tested AURA were buggy as hell but we needed to have Aura working to allow for the future.

          • escruting

            Yes, i’m sure aura is great. But its the emptiness around every update that is making people anxious and bored about the development of Opera.

            Mozilla had been working on Auralis for years and users could test it for a long time. Couldn’t you just enable a lot of the things you are working on and just let people use/tweak/play with them on the Dev stream? This would help you polite things and this would be so healthy for your browser and user experience involvement.

            Examples:
            – You have a version of stash that lets us sort things and drag them around? just ENABLE IT.
            – You have a preliminary version of the bookmark interface/manager? just ENABLE IT.
            – You have an alpha version of vertical tabs/left panel or whatevah? just ENABLE IT.

            just FUN and PROGRESS man, put the next gear and put some more energy into this development because this is just boring and stale.

          • zakius

            these commenting are mostly angry prestopera believers like me xD

      • escruting

        Also, what you put into dev build is the same that later will go into Next and Stable, so, what will you put on the blog post then? will there be something the real user can FEEL?

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          We may focus on different points, yes. It makes sense. The audiences do not completely overlap. Some people only run stable, others only developer.

          • escruting

            But, when people ask for features on the Stable blog post, you tell them that features are developed on the Developer stream then they go to Next when you feel they are ready, and then into Stable.

            So, shouldn’t you have something for the normal user here? Or would n’t it be better if you also developed things on the other streams? (apart from bug fixes).

            This stream development style feels stale and when the time for showing new things (AKA the first or second version of every new Dev number) is always dissapointing.

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            So, shouldn’t you have something for the normal user here?

            Yeah we should. We don’t always but yeah I agree we should.

        • Rafael Luik

          This is not the last Dev build (so more things might appear until then, I hope).

          Also I bet “improved web standards support for better animations in websites” might be ok for regular users to understand.

          • Nekomajin42

            It was said in the first build of v22, and we got nothing else than silent update. It was the same in v21 too.

    • IllusionMH

      This feature is valuable for normal users too.
      Now you will see correct transforms on site elements if lazy developers forgot to add proper vendor prefixes to transforms.

      • zakius

        but really, why different prefixes wrer even used? if it could execute action why it needed different css property to execute it at all?

        • IllusionMH

          For experimental features. Check syntax for earlier gradients versions and you will find why.

    • bruce lawson

      “Still hesitant to follow only one direction?”

      Yup, we’re McFly fans through and through. Apart from Daniel, who’s heavily into Busted.

      • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

        LOL!

      • Rinne Tensei

        ..

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

      The Developer builds are often of interest to those who want to test the latest web technologies so I think it makes sense to highlight these kinds of changes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Then you should stick to Opera dot com and go there every two months, download the current stable release or simply let it update by itself, nevermind this page completely.

  • L33t4opera

    Thanks for the update, Ruarí ;-)
    By the way: you forgot to change the post title in the change log, it still leads to http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/05/opera-developer-23-unprefixed-css-transforms/

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

      Thanks, fixed.

  • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

    “DNA-15585 Insecure Youtube pages”

    Finally. But I want it also in Chrome :(

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Then you are following the wrong blog. ;-)

      • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

        Yeah ;_;

      • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

        Hey, @Aeyoun:disqus, can you move this fix to the stable and next channels of Opera?

        • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

          That will happen automatically with time.

  • Wraith

    What I really want to see is more efficient in memory managment because right now Opera is like Chrome they eat up a lot of RAM.

    • NoName

      You should read the changelog. It’s even the first line :)

      • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

        Indeed, people should always read the changelog. It gives a much clearer indication of the amount of effort that was put in.

        • Wraith

          Ok! I apologize, I will check it and try this version carefully.

    • bruce lawson

      We’re doing a great deal of work making sure Blink is more performant, with a smaller memory and binary footprint. More at http://dev.opera.com/blog/happy-first-birthday-to-blink/

      • Rinne Tensei

        Direct write is working fine. why don’t you enable it by default ? o.O

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          Cause it sometimes fucks up texts. You’ll notice sooner or later… ^^ (at least that’s what happened in 22)

          • Rinne Tensei

            ya, I know that, but enabling direct write alone never caused anything creepy !

        • fanboi punisher

          Plus it is absolutely needed for PDF.js to show correct fonts.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Have a look at one of our experiments! opera://flags/#tab-hibernation I think it should be called instant-laptop-fan-cooler and not tab-hibernation. ;-) Use the process manager (part of developer tools in Opera) to see its effect.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        I’ve enabled Tab Hibernation, but that’s not the point, without any tabs Opera uses 190 MB here if I disable ALL extensions, with the 6 extensions I use enabled, it can go up to 400 MB before I open any tab. I’m trying to attach a screenshot but it won’t work.

      • Saskatchewan

        Have a look at Opera’s default settings (first four charts show memory usage comparison):
        http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Test-przegladarek-WWW-ktora-z-nich-jest-najlepsza,News,54124,2.html

  • Alex Parker

    We get 1-2 actual new features in Opera in every new version. Which basically means ONCE A MONTH. And even these features are mostly pointless for an average user,
    Maybe I am exaggerating, but I’m not too far from truth, am I? If we get 12-20 actual new features A YEAR and even those are mostly pointless, then Opera will not turn into a fine browser in our LIFETIME.

    • raphah

      I agree! we are on 23 version and I am still waiting for old style bookmarks…

    • meh

      Actually, since Opera sixteen or seventeen I can play chess directly on my monitor:

      http://i.imgur.com/UGyZVte.png
      It is considered a feature, I suppose..

      • Rinne Tensei

        hahaha.. print it on T-shirt, will look cool

      • L33t4opera

        Hi Meh, this may be a problem with GPU’s acceleration, or only with GPU’s compositing. You can try to disable GPU compositing as follows: “…launcher.exe” –disable-gpu-compositing. If this doesn’t help, then instead of that, try to disable the GPU acceleration at all: “…launcher.exe” –disable-gpu – please take a look here for more details. You may also try to experiment with the “opera://flags/#ignore-gpu-blacklist” flag – please take a look here.

        On the other hand, some users noticed, that the issue could be caused by their antivirus program – see here.

        • meh

          Oh, wow:
          http://i.imgur.com/O2bYRa4.jpg
          And the second command gives me a complete gray screen while scrolling instead of chessboard.

          I don’t have any antivirus. I don’t click on things such as internet-explorer-booster.exe or other stuff like that.

          • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

            What da f**k is happen with this “browser”? O.o

          • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

            Looks like some screenshots of MultiTorg Opera :)

      • Mark Lavrijsen

        Just delete Opera settings in your profile directory. It’s the risk of installing beta and alpha releases.

  • https://ashus.ashus.net/ Ashus

    I’m sorry the flag “password-autofill-public-suffix-domain-matching@2″ has disappeared a few builds back. I can’t use the password autofill without it, now all forms offer absolutely offtopic logins (and http auth dialog offers nothing). What am I supposed to do, switch to chrome, which still has it?

  • http://toxprox.tumblr.com/ Eric

    PDF.js is my default PDF viewer even in Chrome… I prefer it over their native PDF viewer by quite a large margin. BTW Firefox’s JavaScript has at last beat V8’s execution speed on many basic operations. It seems now may be a good idea for the old-school Opera employees to have a bigger effect and direction to help the official Google V8 team :).

    +9000 for a damn bookmark manager UI for me though.

    • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

      It’s over 9000!! for a bookmark manager UI :)

      I do have Bookmark manager extension, tho that does not like handing 4000 items (things found since 2007)

  • SQL

    So, I have a question i would like to receive some kind of an answer for;

    This oilpan-thingy in Chromium / Blink(?) What exactly is it? Do you guys use it atm or what? I’m pretty interested in these things and i’ve been trying to figure out things. SO it’s an Garbage Collector, right? Like in Java, right? You guys really have been committing lots of patches to that, that’s why I’m wondering. So is it already used here, or is it not ready just yet and will be coming in the future?

    • blackcoder

      I am following that development, too. Interesting stuff.

      I am like 100% sure that it is not enabled in this developer build.
      Also looks like oilpan needs some more work (my guess are a few months).

    • Zlip792

      Its more like Blink engine garbage collector, Mozilla Firefox has something similar like cycle collection. It collects nodes or C++ stuff and destroy any leaking references. It will make Blink more secure from use after free security bugs.

      Its half ready through, read its progress from this Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlobCOyvTnPKdFR1YUFGdF9QMEVUcWhhWF9WNmpaX1E&usp=gmail#gid=0

      • SQL

        I would love to receive some comments from Opera guys? I haven’t found pretty much any information from the internet. This looks promising, will it solve some memory consumption stuff?

      • http://velmont.no/ Odin Hørthe Omdal (odinho/Velm

        Entirely correct. This will allow Blink to implement specs in a better way. We always had the problem of (back then) WebKit vetoing spec changes because it was hard for them to implement, because it caused cycles between objects in javascript-space and in Blink. That really sucked since we didn’t have that problem with Presto, also, as Ziip correctly states, Mozilla didn’t either (because of their cycle breaker).

        On our side it’s sof that’s taken the most interest in this as you can see, and he’s been working on making Blink ready for Oilpan.

        We won’t get any direct performance benefit out of it, — it is still better to not garbage collect but do it manually. But with all the work that’s been done it’s now at the point where it won’t be a performance *degradation* (which I find very cool and impressive!). Some places it even makes stuff faster, but the important thing is that it makes things much more secure and it makes the code much simpler. We’ve had lots of human errors in that area because it is really really tricky not to cause cycles. And then you have memory you can’t really reclaim.

        So yes, undoubtedly it will be a Good Thing ™. And at least Blink won’t have to say «no, that cool JavaScript API is impossible for us to implement, because we’ll get cycles». That’s good (WebKit is still WebKit though :/ ).

        (note; I’m not working on this at all, so I might be inaccurate – but SQL wanted specific Opera-guy-answer, so I thought I’d give it to him ;) ).

  • Karthikeyan

    As always, love your work..

  • Dmitry Kirin

    I’d like to ask developers to kindly implement a big new functionality in Opera bookmark bar: show link url in status floating bar upon hover.

    • Rinne Tensei

      Add auto hide to Book marks bar.

    • rufu2

      +1, and have both the title and the url in that pop-up (on two lines)

  • Rinne Tensei

    .. keep it up.. Good things take Time. Rolls Royce takes 6 months to make Prius takes 12 hrs !

  • Rinne Tensei

    Direct write is working fine. why don’t you enable it by default ?

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Do you know by chance, if that causes FB to go to the top at every single damn oportunity?

      I had to reset all the flags, with few exceptions, and now it works normally. I only enable Direct3D 11, Tab Hibernation and Tab Cycling on the stable channel.

      • SQL

        Oh is that it? HOLY **** that bug is the worst stuff ever. QA’S OR WHOEVER TEST THIS STUFF GO SEARCH

      • Dmitry Kirin

        I don’t think so. I’ve got DirectWrite disabled, still FB jumps to top sometimes.

      • Rinne Tensei

        I didn’t notice that ! not in chrome or opera !

  • Sync Originals

    Great pity, yet again, audio not playing on BANDCAMP ( only the worlds largest indie music marketplace). Already posted about it on the last update, BUT t seems you are too busy again. it is rather sad that you DO NOT LISTEN when it comes to us, your core supporters.

    • Rafael Luik

      This is not the correct way of reporting issues.

      After making sure it’s reproducible (e.g. other users here or in the forums can help testing to confirm the issue) and considering investigating the cause of the issue (actual bug, browser sniffing, different settings or steps to reproduce), then you should fill a bug report.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It may happen that a bug reported is fixed on the immediate next release but the changes of it to happening are very low.

      And keep reapeating the same thing on every single will make the problem being solved faster.

      So report the issue appropriately, including your OS, Opera version/build and the steps to reproduce it. And wait, when they have a fix, you will know.

      Btw, the best place to report bugs is on the bts: https://bugs.opera.com/wizarddesktop/

      • Sync Originals

        as you are aware Leonardo we already reported the issue with all appropriated info on our systems. Pity!!

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Ok, so now you just wait for a fix to be released.

          Btw, it’s working here on Win8.1

  • Manuel

    Well, about broken things at the Rendering Engine…
    I would say, flexbox is broken.
    If you have a flexbox layout and change the height of an element after everything is loaded and than change back, the height stays…

  • Oskar

    Hi! Thanks for a good job. Opened Opera today and thought things where a little snappier and more good looking and looked, yeah, an update had been made without me knowing!

    Don’t know whats different, but it feels better at least. For some reason it feels lighter on my PC, maybe RAM usage is down, which would be good and to keep lowering, it is my number one request!

    Still requesting a “netbook skin”.

    I’ve been trying the PDF.js extension now and after some minutes of usage I decided to go back to my regular one. It’s good looking, pretty fast and not too heavy on the system. But it’s much slower than my regular one and at the same time it used 7% more RAM on my test document. I see a page loader when I “manually” scroll the page, not seeing that with my native one (PDF XChange Viewer). Guess it’s a work in progress, just hope speed is going to be highly prioritized.

    • bruce lawson

      “Guess it’s a work in progress, just hope speed is going to be highly prioritized.”

      yes – we’re working with Mozilla on this at the moment https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/how-fast-is-pdf-js/

    • Marko Koivuniemi

      I totally agree that this build seems must snappier than previous Next and Developer version.

  • moimadmax

    And About Linux version ? As your signature seems to say that you’re here for that Mr Ruarí Ødegaard.

    :)

    • bruce lawson

      Ruari’s at a McFly concert tonight, but I can answer this: the Linux version is in the works. As soon as there’s a developer build to play with, we promise to let the world know.

      • Marko Koivuniemi

        Marty McFly? Good, because we need to go back to the future where Opera has Linux builds. ;-)

      • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

        Bruce!!! Stop it, people might actually believe this. ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    Still SD thumbnail for html5test is wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    About your claims for doing so hard work in improving memory usage. Do the math.

    • Sidney Moraes

      I do not get it, it is not using a lot of ram.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        In your rig or in my screenshot? I’m showing 395 MB used, and look at it, one tab and a few extensions.

        Or maybe you got a much better PC and don’t think that’s much memory?

        • Sidney Moraes

          My pc only has 3.25 GB.

          it is using 395 MB but in separeted processes, so the performace is good.

    • Wraith

      Yes indeed it take a lot of RAM, at first I almost believe about this “memory improvement” but now that I am monitoring the usage and on my PC with 5 tab opened and 3 extension take about 900 MB of RAM, this is insane.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    I just realized you offer experimental support for Pepper Flash Player, I wonder which is better as I don’t use Chrome, should I install it just to test? Is it better than Adobe?

    • reesmichael1

      More interestingly, that flag is supported on Mac, Windows and Linux.

      • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        Maybe this helps to finally silence the rumors of Opera not developing a Linux version… ;)
        Promised, they DO.

        • bgh251f2

          Untill another year pass…

  • Habl

    Please, take enable HTML5 video on YouTube.

    • blackcoder
      • cgebhard

        Well somehow it still loads the flashplugin even if you’ve signed up for html5…at least in stable. Didn’t try it with this version.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          It’s because of a bug on YouTube that was sending just low resolution videos to Opera and not allowing the user to change it.

          It seems ok now but Opera needs to remove the fix.

  • TwistedAndy

    How about Opera Dragonfly? Where is the bookmarks? Where is the new features?

    • SQL

      1.Nope 2.At Some Point Something Different™ 3.not here

  • raphah

    can you bring back old style bookmarks? i’m still using opera 12 because I dont like bookmarks bar

  • icetom

    “We can’t promise you will see the results right away but don’t think for a moment we have slowed down in our efforts!”
    It would really be hard for you to slow down, as you were already close to 0 K.
    Cheers to everyone who gets the joke.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      I don’t speak english as my primary language and in spanish to state I get the joke doesn’t mean I find it funny.

      • icetom

        ok your right.

    • bruce lawson

      thanks for your helpful contribution to the discussion.

  • Sidney Moraes

    To download the installer is slow!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Yep, but i think it was kinda expected. Too many people trying to update.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    New Opera 21 Stable update!!

    • icetom

      I still have 21.0.1432.57 and see no update.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala
        • icetom

          thanks.
          I wonder why they always put the new update on the server before they announce it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Completely logical, you can’t announce something that’s not set yet.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            To allow the mirrors to get it. And also to have time to people to test it so they can take it back if a showstopper is find.

  • Clumsy

    I use Opera 21 portable vers. Since longer I have been installing PDF.JS. I use PDF.JS with Google Chrome too and Cyberfox x64. PDF.JS is a great tool in function and design, it underline the reading process. I switched on access file URL in option tool’s menu, so I can always read open PDF via desktop. Loading time (visible feeling) is relatively fast in Cyberfox and Opera and slower in Google Chrome, explored always with the same document. I am glad the tool is going to implanted in Opera Browser now. Opera Browser with the new Blink and it new design is a great utility to investigate something or for read News. Unfortunately you have switch on before you get synchronizing in Flag area to synchronize with Opera Server and your work will be safe for daily mistakes with technique. The button Discover should be free for own election in option menu, thus you can take on this place an other feature (example News Reader, or Login, and Bookmarks). Further, I hope for x64 Installer or the Installer takes the option proper to the machine the browser is installed.

    • Clumsy

      Just I read on this page https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/how-fast-is-pdf-js/ in 0.8 % PDF crash with PDF.js. I can confirm this behaviour. But I have made this experience only with Opera Browser (20 / 21 vers.). Excuse, this is true. Maybe it is in context with my installed virus scanner engine (here Comodo and recently Avast) and the usages of special features the scanner served. However, so I know about this circumstance and I observe the process in future with all browsers I have in use (see my comment above too).

      • Clumsy

        So far I see it is probably a problem triggered by my virus scanner engine. Memory hang with Cyberfox and Opera. But never seen with usage IE.

  • Leonardo Gomes

    New flags:

    – Find Pepper Flash plug-in

    – Allow import from running browsers

    • Leonardo Gomes

      - Find Pepper Flash plug-in

      At least here, this one has made flash stop working.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Now it’s enabled and flash is working.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    With Lazy session loading turned on (both regular and extended), Disqus sections on this blog’s pages won’t load after Opera is restarted, even if the page is in the active tab. This behaviour is reproducible. After some timeout, Disqus gives up and shows a Reload link. Pressing it loads comments correctly.

  • Clumsy

    Bookmarking: I use the extension ‘Bookmark Manager’ by Opera Software since last three Opera Vers. It is a acceptable tool. I like it for its possibility importing my bookmarks to Html and to store for me external on my computer. I proposal Opera adopt this tool and made it a bit smoother. So a function for synchronize with Opera Server would be fine. As well Drag and Drop function to sort his items uncomplicated in folders. Lastly, I read Bookmarks function in Browsers is a thing for extinction. I think it is not really. Well sorted bookmarks are further the uncomplicated wise finding things on Internet. And Opera has a plus for Bookmarks namely Speed Dial. I add all subordinate pages, I found down the main page, in a folder on Speed Dial. This is very comfortable and clearly always in a good overview. But all this unquestionably features presently absent of the possibility to make a backup for the own equipment. This makes the usage of the browser doubtful in practice.

  • thunder13

    Please add new features:
    – Bookmarks site (similar as chrome://bookmarks/ site on Chrome);
    – Bookmarks & History tabs on SpeedDial (similar to Stash & Discover);
    – Bookmarks menu in Opera menu;
    – fullscreen view from autohide Tab Bar and Adress Bar (simmilar as in Firefox and InternetExplorer);
    – add undo_tab/trash on Tab Bar beside minimalize/restore/close window button.

  • Jombu

    many of us were waiting for CSS…. is this a joke? MANY of us are waiting for bookmarks, irc chat, settings and appearance to be like the one from Opera 12x, all the rest can change, no one cares but the carcass should still be the same.

  • Bjarne Bertelsen

    Something is strange when scrolling with trackpad on Macbook pro. Works ok in Opera stable.

  • Leonardo Gomes

    [Suggestion] I think it would be useful if you add some kind of signal to the changelog to show what is a bug fixe, what is a new feature/addition. Like, i.e.:

    [*] to indicate bugfixes
    [+]to indicate additions
    [-]to indicate something that was removed

    • L33t4opera

      Nice idea ;-)

      • Dave-H

        I second that!
        It just looks like a bewildering long list of obscure bug fixes at the moment!
        :-)

    • Nekomajin42

      Guys, upvote that comment above!

      • Dave-H

        Done!
        Should have remembered to do that, thanks for the reminder!
        :-)

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      That’s probably not going to happen.
      Those changelogs are automatically generated and the Bug Tracking System doesn’t know whether it’s a feature or a bug.

      I second this request though. It would be nice to have.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Hmm, i didn’t know that. Anyway, it explains some strage entries on the changelogs. :-)

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          Yeah, most of the entries that don’t sound like proper English are the ones ordinary users submitted. The titles you enter are what you see in the changelogs
          (unless they were changed internally for some reason)

      • shane

        Can be easily implemented via a naming standard. i.e titles beginning with “[ENH]” are enhancements. A 5 line perl script can then produce a nicer changelog.

        But I would be pretty surprised if their ticketing system doesn’t already support categorisation of tickets into enhancement/defect/arbitrary. The CHR/DNA prefix and [HDPI][Win] etc tags suggest they are already doing something along these lines (categorising tickets).

    • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

      Finally, your first great idea :) You also make a progress with comments :)

    • Joana Silva

      Great idea!!!

  • _artem_

    > Opera 23 now supports Unprefixed CSS Transforms. Something I know that many of you have been waiting for.

    WTF are you talking about? Who cares of CSS? Many of us are waiting (vainly) for linux builds… over a year already

    • reesmichael1

      I choose to believe the Opera developers when they say the Linux build is cooking. If that’s not enough for you, you may find it interesting to note that many of the flags in this developer version (I don’t know about previous ones) are supported for Windows, Mac and Linux.

      • _artem_

        they are supported in chrom{e,ium} for linux, opera just copy pasted supported platform by those flags
        what about notifications? why those are still not supported by opera? pushbullet extension is quiet unusable because there are no notification if something was pushed… thanks to chrome’s tray icon which appears on every windows boot, and informs of any notifications, e.g. gmail notification, pushbullet notification… but I want them natively in opera, so I don’t have to keep chrome installed… and with lack of the linux version, I still have to keep chrome in linux and in windows too :(
        opera’s syncronisation just doesn’t work… at least it doesn’t with google account, it asks me to sign in every time I restart computer, and it promotes to sync everything with opera for android – which doesn’t have sync with google account option… so syncing is absolutely not working for me, and I have to use chrome on android and on desktop to have the same history and bookmarks

        • _artem_

          believe me or not… I almost don’t play games, most of the time on pc I surf, watch films online, chat to friends on icq/jabber/telegram (whatsapp alternative with native open source desktop clients and synchronized encrypted messages in the cloud)… everything of that I can do in linux too, except of comfortable surfing, watching films online – because there is no opera, I don’t wan’t to use outdated 1,5 year old stuff (12.16 I guess), I don’t like using chrome or firefox (never liked that one). so I have to keep windows installed and I have to keep booting it every time I’m on pc just because I can’t surf with anything except opera :(

        • Onaj Tamo

          so does this mean they have internal Linux builds?

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            As we have said before, we are working on Linux so I think you should be more surprised if we didn’t.

      • _artem_

        just found that one

        Find Pepper Flash plug-in
        Mac, Windows, Linux

        Automatically find and use Pepper Flash plug-in, if it is installed in the system.
        #find-pepper-flash-plugin

        that’s very promising for linux :)

        • reesmichael1

          Really? On my Mac installation, I can see 83 flags that are supported for Linux (narrowed down through the search bar), and at least two that are Linux specific.

          • reesmichael1

            Ahh, I see. You meant that there is only one Opera-specific flag that mentions Linux. I don’t know enough about Chromium flags to check that. Sorry about the confusion–my mistake.

          • _artem_

            oh.. no. I ment just that this one is a good one, because the only way to get flash in linux is pepper flash

            on windows it shows 92 at all (without search), linux (80), windows (86), mac (78)

          • reesmichael1

            Sorry again–I actually meant 81. (I’ve corrected my comment above.) It looks like we see eye to eye on everything else, so I apologize for the confusion.

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            You can get NPAPI Flash on Linux. The problem is that it is old and less feature full.

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          Indeed it is especially given the presence of a Pepper Flash package in Ubuntu and other distros.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            As it’s listed also a Windows flag, does it mean that Opera may use Pepper Flash in the future on its Windows builds?

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            If a Pepper Flash package is made available for Windows, then yes we could do this. The code to work with Pepper plugins is already in place.

            At the moment it is actually possible to use Pepper Flash on Windows and Mac with appropriate command line switches. However, it additionally requires you to have a copy of the Pepper Flash plugin and the only public source of this right now is Chrome.

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            You could extract the Pepper Flash plugin out of the Chrome package (or install Chrome alongside Opera) and then use the two command line switches but this is just a hacky workaround and not a real solution to the problem (which is the lack of a public copy of the Pepper Plugin).

            The switches are –ppapi-flash-path= and –ppapi-flash-version= if you did want to have a play around with this, for the purposes of testing.

            Whilst we do not fully endorse this method we would be interested to know if it works for you (it does for us) since it is a good test of our Pepper plugin support.

          • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

            Is there a post on how to do it for Mac & Windows users w/ out installing Chrome?

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            There isn’t a post no. Mainly because it is not all that straightforward to test right now.

            However, if you really wanted to test Opera with Chrome’s copy of Flash, first copy out the plugin itself. You will find it here: Google Chrome.app/Contents/Versions/35.0.1916.114/Google Chrome Framework.framework/Internet Plug-Ins/PepperFlash/PepperFlashPlayer.plugin/Contents/MacOS/PepperFlashPlayer. Save it somewhere you can easily reference later, e.g. your home folder. Then start Opera from the terminal like so:


            /Applications/Opera Developer.app/Contents/MacOS/Opera --ppapi-flash-path=$HOME/PepperFlashPlayer --ppapi-flash-version="13.0.0.214"

            Is this convenient? … No! But it will allow you to quickly test and confirm that Opera will work with Pepper Flash.

            P.S. I’m not a Windows guy (Mac and Linux for me thanks!) so I will leave the method of getting this working on Windows as an exercise for the reader.

          • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

            I got

            2014-05-31 13:53:59.976 Opera Helper[47063:507] CoreText CopyFontsForRequest received mig IPC error (FFFFFECC) from font server

            2014-05-31 13:53:59.976 Opera Helper[47063:507] CoreText CopyFontsForRequest received mig IPC error (FFFFFECC) from font server

            After the terminal command

      • Leonardo Gomes

        It’s the first build in which there are linux flags.

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          Indeed it is because now is the first time it really makes sense to expose these flags to Linux.

      • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

        Ah hah, you noticed the flags. Good catch. I always said we were working on Linux so it is not a complete surprise I hope.

  • Deus Ex Vino

    PDF.js is horribly slow compared to Xpdf or FoxitPDF – the problem is, most people have some sort of PDFreader installed anyway – so i dont get why bother anway.

    unprefixed css? its a fix of “browser.js” proportions – dont talk about it like its big change, even if doing it PROPERLY was huge work. you are using chrome engine now – so why bother?

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      PDF.js has been quite reliable for my so far, I use Foxit too, but only the desktop app, not the plug in.

  • TERAB1T

    And DNA-17163 still doesn’t fixed. Waiting for the next version.

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Your issue was already known before.
      You might want to look out for DNA-7353 instead in changelogs ;)

  • _artem_

    22.0.1471.8 – New version 23.0.1499.0 is available
    Developer
    Windows 8.1 64-bit (WoW64)

    restarted 5 times, still shows version 22 and new version is available… what’s wrong with the auto updater again?!?!?!?

    Upd: after posting this, restarted for the 6th time and it’s updated now and shows welcome-to-opera page

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      I had this happening, too. (with the last build as well)

  • x a

    With this build the loading throbber in tabs is displaced downwards and look like an arch (see image).

    This build and last next_22 build often showed the wrong triangle (ie one pointing up) at the lower end of a vertical scroll bar, when clicking on it.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      With this build the loading throbber in tabs is displaced downwards and look like an arch (see image).

      Known issues

      The page loading icon is in the wrong location on Windows

      • x a

        Terribly sorry. ;P

        But maybe the second issue saves me.

    • _artem_

      when you move your mouse cursor onto a reloading tab and then down to navigation/address/extensions bar and back up onto tab (while it’s still reloading) animation icon is on the correct place :)

    • ayespy

      “Known issues

      The page loading icon is in the wrong location on Windows”

  • PaulW

    Has it got the features of Opera 12?? If not I’m not even going to waste time downloading it.. Lucky Opera software is free otherwize they would have bankrupt long ago with a featureless web browser..

    • Guest

      .

    • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

      Has it got the features of Opera 12??

      No and some will never return. Remember that.

  • ayespy

    “Now with Unprefixed CSS Transforms.” Really? That’s your headline? REALLY?

    Just out of curiosity, what does that mean to me? Anything?

    I’ll tell you what I would REALLY love to know – what are you guys pushing for at the BlinkOn 2 conference, that will mean lil’ ol’ users like myself will eventually exclaim, “Hey – it WAS worth sticking with Opera through these dark times!”

    I am still looking for a configurable browser with the possibility to implement vertical side elements like tabs, bookmark bar, etc. Then you will once again be unique among browsers in a way that is so meaningful it will actually attract business to the desktop.

    • fanboi punisher

      Don’t worry, with this version they ‘ve built another solid foundation for “future features” ™

      • ayespy

        Well, THAT’S depressing…

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Actually that benefits us PC users a lot. When Canonical decided to go mobile they optimized Unity in a way noone ever imagined and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is quite a solid product, stable, secure and fast.

        A non expected side effect of mobile development, due to internal feedback, same is going on here.

        • fanboi punisher

          Actually that is not the best example. Gnome 3 is the perfect example of what mobile did to a PC desktop interface…

      • bruce lawson

        I don’t see your point. As it says, “web engines (e.g. Blink) are not nearly as good on performance-constrained devices as they need to be. ” So performance enhancements in Blink will enhance browsers that use Blink, such as Opera desktop.

        • Nekomajin42

          But performance is not just JS compile time or GUI response time. Performance is also comfort. Customizable GUI, tools like bookmark tree, custom keys and mouse gestures, etc.

          • bruce lawson

            and that’s true. But it’s also the case that if – say – Facebook/ tweetdeck’s rendering and scroll time are reduced (by making Blink more performant) all users benefit. Customizable GUI, custom keys, mouse gestures are used by a much smaller number of people.

          • Nekomajin42

            That’s true, but – correct me, if I’m wrong – you have a separate team working on fixing the engine, and another working on the GUI. Am I wrong?

  • Nekomajin42

    “For example, we currently have internal projects looking at improvements to bookmarking…”
    Does it mean you are tossing ideas or actively coding?

    • bruce lawson

      yes

      • Nekomajin42

        I know it was a bad question, so I’d like to get another answer:
        Do you actively coding anything related to bookmarking? :)

        • bruce lawson

          There are prototypes being evaluated

          • Nekomajin42

            Thanks!

          • SQL

            Now prototypes – I guess we get to see it in a few years then :p

            (just kidding, stereotypical image of Opera I would say)

  • Андрей

    А про синхронизацию – тишина…
    Издевательство.

  • taneli

    1) Is it possible for you guys to make the page zoom on the same domain stick to one tab only, and not zoom other tabs on the same domain too? (as i’ve understood it’s a chromium feature).
    2) If so, are you willing, or interested, or going to change that behaviour?

    As i’ve mentioned before, it’s a pain for artists as it is.

  • moto0000

    Why you don’t add option to hide plus on Speed Dial page ? Is it impossible ?

  • DD64

    Question for Opera-Developers:
    Return of tab stacking planned? Y/N?

    Question for community:
    Are there other browsers beside Opera (11,12) which support full/properly Tab-Stacking? Y/N? I already searched but it seems Opera’s the only one. Am I right?
    PS: I’m using 12 on my computers (Windows/Linux)

    • bruce lawson

      better tab handling is being looked at.

      • Nekomajin42

        Why can’t you answer a simple yes or no to the question about tab stacking?

        • bgh251f2

          Because then it would be a promise and they don’t want to promisse anything they can’t be sure to deliver.

          Look at the Linux situation, they promissed it and now (more than a year later) people bother them when the most they can offer is almost nothing.

          • SQL

            AKA Valve’s HL3 syndrome :DD

          • Nekomajin42

            There were nothing about dates in the question. It was about planning, not working on. It was a useless but irritating answer.

        • bruce lawson

          because I don’t know if tab stacking will be part of better tab handling. I liked it, but it wasn’t greatly used.

          • Nekomajin42

            That’s an answer. Thanks.

            I like to use tab stacking with pinned tabs together in two cases:
            1) There are 2-3 tabs always open in my browser. Pinning them only is not too good, because I can’t see the notifications on the title tag. But in one stack, they can be pinned and normal sized either.
            2) I open a page (mostly an online game) and I don’t want to close it accidentally, so I just pin it, and throw it to a stack with a blank page.

            Of course, sometimes I use a lot of tabs at the same time, and I don’t like to use more than one window, so tab stacking can be useful alone too.

            I wouldn’t call it a minor feature, but with better marketing, it would worth the resources to develop.

          • rufu2

            Thanks for the info. FWIW, I use tab stacking daily, as a way of grouping new tabs that I open to read later. Some of these stacked groups I finish in one session, others I’ve kept a long time…

            So if I ever switch to Blink Opera as my main browser, I might use the Stash instead.
            But for that, I would want to group entries in stash, and I would find it really useful if stash remembered where I was in the page. And I would need to see the full url in a pop-up when I hover over an entry!

          • DD64

            I use it along with AutoStack* extension. This combination provides extremely comfortable options for use

            * https://addons.opera.com/de/extensions/details/autostack/?display=en

            I think it has to come along with tab preview on mouseover and probably visual tabs (introduced in Opera 10 or something)

          • SGresponse

            It’s an odd thing to hear – “it wasn’t greatly used”. Did you actually gather long-term stats on features clicked in your browser? Show them then – that browser is long gone and dead from your perspective, yes? So what can it hurt?

            Lack of tab stacking is one of the two deal breakers (the second one being silent updates), that prevent me from upgrading from O12. I can struggle through the lack of customization, the Chromelike looks, lack of IRC and the killed download manager (which BTW was what initially got me to “Go Opera” somewhere around O7/O8) – but only WITH tab stacking.

            Am I really the only person on the planet, that cares for seamless context switching and having a hundred frozen tabs as a memo device?

          • bruce lawson

            It’s an odd thing to hear – “it wasn’t greatly used”. Did you actually gather long-term stats on features clicked in your browser?”

            Yes, of course (for those who gave permission, naturally). Here are some stats about bookmark use, for example: http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/07/ctrl-z-of-ctrl-d/

            “Show them then – that browser is long gone and dead from your perspective, yes? So what can it hurt?”

            Why would we do that? Now that rendering engines are so interoperable, browsers compete on UI etc. Why would we publish 17+ years of stats that give us insight into what users do?

          • SGresponse

            “Now that rendering engines are so interoperable, browsers compete on UI etc. Why would we publish 17+ years of stats”

            That one line just killed whatever believability you personally had as an advocate of the corporate decision to kill PrestOpera. Few people will notice, but for those who do you’ve gained credibility.

            And thank you for the link, which proves EXACTLY my point. A logical conclusion to the “What most people actually do is: – keep their favorite sites open all the time” sentence is TAB STACKING.

            And you’re right – releasing all data is stupid. However not backing up decisions of feature removal with data-based analysis is sloppy at best. This community is in DIRE need of a community manager, that would go in and post a large “Why don’t we care about feature XYZ” or “Why is XYZ low on our priority list” group of explanations coming from rational reasons. That would silence at least half the regular users and bring in a welcome climate change. The fringe will of course stay negative but at least you will have SOME people on your side.

            In short: please get us a community manager who will post rational explanations on killed or delayed features. And post a priority report on upcoming features maybe. You know – nothing big – just treat us like people.

          • Leif Roar Moldskred

            Imagine a bag of Twist (assorted chocolates) that only contains the types of chocolates that _everybody_ likes. Think it’d sell as well?

            Or think of your favorite IDE — how many features does it have that’s only useful to (or used by) a small fraction of its users? And yet, if it was pared down to only the “greatly used” features and got rid of all the lesser used features, wouldn’t it end up losing a lot of usefulness to a great many users?

            Sure, you have to focus on the core features that’s used by almost all your users: if those don’t work well, you’re SOL. Still, to paraphrase Stalin, “feature-richness is a feature all in its own.”

            I might not buy left-handed scissors or paraffin wax myself, but I appreciate that my grocery store stocks them.

    • zhnujm

      Firefox with Tab Utilities addon can do tab stacking like Opera 12, but without the multiple preview windows when hovering over the tab.

      • DD64

        I cannot get it working like in Opera 12

        • zhnujm

          if you use the release version 1.5xxx:
          set options -> settings -> advanced -> extensions.tabutils.dragtostack to true

          if you use the developer version 1.6pre21 theres an option under Tabs -> Tab Stacking – “Drop one tab onto another to make a new stack”

          • DD64

            It works now, great!

  • _artem_

    thanks for

    Overlay scrollbars
    Enable the experimental overlay scrollbars implementation.

    “modern scroll” extension can now be deleted :) those native overlay scrollbars are sexy

  • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

    DNA-19347, :) Should Opera fall back on the OS crash reporter if Opera’s fails?

    At some point add Emoji support, I think Safari on OS X uses the OS base

    Not sure why after auto update of Dev 22 to Dev 23, Opera Dev opens http://www.opera.com/o/welcome-to-opera

    opera://flags/#find-pepper-flash-plugin looks interesting…

    opera://flags/ also has a teaser about a question that has been asked a lot since the switch to Blink

    • Leonardo Gomes

      opera://flags/ also has a teaser about a question that has been asked a lot since the switch to Blink

      Which one?

      • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

        At least here on OS X, I see a certain OS mentioned for the OS for the different experiments

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Ah, right. I see it on Windows too.

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

      I don’t know what you mean!! :p

  • abcde

    What about a popup blocker like “better pop up blocker” extension by default, because chromium don’t block very well. The old opera download torrent by default, you guys plan to have this function back? The guys from kingsoft are doing a good job with the browser Liebao. Take a look at this project, the skins are very beautiful.

    • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

      Opera w/ Presto has a great popup blocker, Chromium got its from Webkit which does not have the best (they have fixed a few in the past few years)

      Posted with/ testing Opera Dev 23

  • Guest

    Sadly Same true for 22 & 23

    • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

      So true ;_;

      “Opera browser. Made to high number” :D

    • http://www.opera.com/ Grzegorz Miazga

      10 -> 12: December 2008 -> June 2013 (55 months of development)
      15 -> 21: May 2013 -> May 2014 (12 months of development)

      Numbers, numbers, numbers

  • Guest

    This one is even more memory hogging!!!

  • amma

    This one is even more memory hogging!

    • amma

      This

    • fanboi punisher

      ROFL, 1GB for one facebook tab… Good Job!™ for choosing the Chrome engine.

  • vladon

    What about Ctrl+Enter behavior unexpectedly changed in 21 version?

    Now it refreshes page, when one try to post comment, for example.

  • pseudo555

    [WIN] Right click on task bar doesn’t work any more (win 7 64bits).

    Btw, is this really what we (opera users) will obtain to use opera 23 ?
    Please, review your priority a bit: one year passes and still HUGE features of Opera 12 are still missing (tab stacking, customization, real theme, and so on).

    For me, almost 99% of the “new features” come from chromium: so please, do something :
    * Stop developing opera desktop and focuses on coast, mobile, max and chromium.
    Or
    * Develop something NEW for the desktop version.

  • http://golubev.by/ Andrew G.

    I have a trouble. How can I disable «ctrl+enter»? On some site this hotkey send message in chat, but Opera block that. :(

    • Mateusz Madej

      This a known bug that we’re fixing as we speak. It should be working fine in next developer build :)

      • http://golubev.by/ Andrew G.

        Thanks a lot :)

  • Khairul Skmt

    I got problems…
    the loading animation on tab got crazy……
    win 7
    latest version no add on!

    • Mateusz Madej

      This is a known issue. Currently being worked on.

  • http://blog.homisite.com/ HomiSite

    Okay, it seems much happens under the hood, but I really hope Opera will offer some significant new (old :-( ) features for USERS when it hits its first birthday soon (without hiding them in flags)…! For Blink improvements I really really really hope for mark and copy text within links!

    I try to use Opera 15+ more in the last days to get comfortable with it, but it is missing sooo much from the Presto days. And additonally quite some features are so underdeveloped, e.g. site preferences*.

    I found one feature I like (besides speed and compatibility) which probably comes from Chrome: Showing where search terms were found on the scroll bar. But again: The search function in Opera 12 offers more, like seach only whole words or exact phrases or only links…

    *The nice (and logical) way of have site preferences centraliced is gone, but I also have to enter now the settings to set the different exceptions? (And: If I add facebook.com as an exception to Cookies and let Cookies get deleted on exit, my login is saved. But if I delete all browser data manually, it’s gone although it is said that saved content settings won’t be deleted.)

  • serendipity1002

    I experience these bugs since Aura made its way to Opera and now, with Opera 23 and the bugs still persist. I posted similar photos on a Opera 21 blog post, got replies from a mod promising they will do something about it, but well…
    I run Win8.1 update 1 x64, have installed the latest version of Flash player. other browsers just work fine, you don’t have to do anything specific for these bugs to appear, just load farmville 2 or play a playlist on youtube.

    • jubuttib

      Ach, nice to see I’m not the only one with this problem (black boxes from the YouTube playlist). Hopefully it’ll get solved soon’ish.

  • siamak

    Sadly Same true for 22 & 23

  • AekoldHelbrass

    Come on! Do Linux already! Give us at least something to click…

    • bruce lawson

      we are doing linux, already. we’ll let you know when it’s all ready.

      • AekoldHelbrass

        Ah, can’t wait to see it! Could you give couple of spoilers? Will it be Qt-based? Will it import bookmarks from Opera 12?

        • bruce lawson

          that would spoil the surprise

  • x a

    Opening links in a new (bg) tab – using context menu or middle mouse button – in felt 2 out of 3 cases the tab stays in ”Loading…“ state while displaying ”about:blank“ in the address field forever (unless you close it); the ‘× Stop“ button does not seem to react (so a ”reload“ button does not appear), F5/Ctrl-R don’t work, either. ”Cloning“ such a tab via its context menu in rare/random cases generates a tab actually loading the content, more often it does not.

    Can somebody confirm? [WinXP, 32bit; lazy-session-loading & tab-hibernation activated]

    • x a

      Turning off tab-hibernation seems to cure the issue. – This is the first build, though, that had problems with tab tab-hibernation for me, since – if I remember correctly – the second build, that had the respective flag accessible.

      • naranj

        same here, win 7

  • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

    I think the experiment, Tab hibernation or hung plug in monitor might be what can cause Opera next 22 or (maybe 23 dev) to hang, it was one or 2 of the flags, you have to force Quit Opera to get it to load again, and then quickly get to the flags to turn them off

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      That could be why they are still considered experimental. ;-)

      • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

        Yep, first few I have had do that, I turn on more in Dev, less in Next and few in Stable

  • Guilimote

    I’m sorry to add a comment juste to whine and complain, but I’m desperate to see dev going in the right direction.
    I must admit I don’t really care about improvements on the installer or some advanced css prefixes.

    I’m still on Opera 12.
    Why? Because of features which seem, oddly enough, easy to implement… but have much impacts on everyday use.

    Still waiting for customizable mouse gestures. (close tab and switch to next or previous tab in one gesture, pleeeeeeeeeeeeease !!!) I don’t even understand why it’s not the default configuration, it’s so useful! As well as rocker gestures to switch to previous/next tab.

    And still waiting for “open a new tab by double clicking on tab bar”.

  • Verden er fantastisk

    May someone help we with an issue? It is regarding embedded videos on YouTube and other sites like http://www.pressfire.no. When I play the embedded videos from YouTube I get a horrible lag in small screen, but interestingly there are no problems in full screen. At Pressfire I am however having lag both in small and fullscreen. I have the same issues both in the newest version of Developer and Next. In Chrome Canary everything is okay. I have tried clearing cache and tried disabling hardware acceleration, but the issues remain.

    Also I would like to thank Opera for their efforts in making nice choices and alternatives like Coast. The explore function is great when you wonder what website you want to visit for news about a wide variety of things. Also I have just started using Opera as my daily browser, after using mainly Chrome for a long time. It is just this issue that irritates me..

  • rufu2

    First, thanks a lot to all of you for the new Developer version and a nice changelog. I prefer to download PDFs and haven’t missed an integrated PDF viewer up to now, but I’m sure it can be a nice feature. And staying on top with great CSS support is really important.

    I do have a lot of feature requests, see below ;)

    • senna_4ever

      but i think you can download them too this is a good news, I wouldn’t need an extension anymore :)

  • rufu2

    Feature Request 1: Search.
    Expand the list of default search engines.
    Add ixquick/startpage, Duckduckgo, Metager, Wikipedia in other languages, etc…

    So no need to hurry with some fix that protects searches from being hijacked by bad extensions. Just amend the list.
    This should be easy for you, and it will increase user satisfaction a lot!

    Also, please make sure that the default search does not get reset to google after an update. It’s annoying.
    Also, it would be nice to allow users to edit the default shortcuts.

  • rufu2

    Feature Request 2: Sidebar.

    …with many possible uses in the future:
    – Bookmarks
    – History
    – Stash
    – Downloads
    – Windows/Tabs overview
    – inspector (would be very useful to have that at the side and not on the bottom!)
    – page info, links, images, source, …
    – used by extensions: rss, notes, dictonary, …

    Please bring the sidebar back.

  • rufu2

    Feature Request 3: Tab handling

    3.a. I have set up O12 so that a click on the active tab switches me back to the previous one. I’d like to see that possibility back.

    3.b. A middle click on the empty taskbar should open a new tab.

    3.c. A tab that’s being opened in the back should _optionally_ be opened at the very end of all tabs, not just to the right of the current tab.

  • rufu2

    Feature Request 4: Bookmarks optimizations

    Bookmarks need a sidebar ;)

    Also, the full url needs to be somewhere, best would be in the popup on hovering.

    Also, a field for description is missing.
    O12 had “nicknames” which functioned as a kind of shortcut. That wasn’t too bad either.

    Making nesting folders should be easy. Right now a folder can be dragged into another folder, but you can’t make a new folder with a right click in there.

    • senna_4ever

      you know really what i am talking about :)

  • rm

    No linux anytime soon. Looks like once opera 12 stops rendering correctly I’ll have to move over to firefox or chrome. Why go for a crappy clone of Chrome when you can just have the full version (which Opera now is).

    No linux anytime soon:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7129955

    • DD64

      Read some comments here. It seems they making process in developing the Linux version.

      And I also think that even Opera 15+ is much more usable than Chrome.

      • bgh251f2

        It’s not, Opera 15+ doesn’t even have a build… Oh you mean the Windows/Mac version sorry.

        And I don’t think it matters how many times they say a Linux version is coming when the months start to pile and the only signs of a change are their empty promises(that after more than a year is the same as nothing).

        ps: I know about the flags on the Mac and Windows Version, but then almost a year ago on the changelog had something about a linux library so untill a Linux Build is ready it is the same as a promise that is the same as nnothing.

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

      Read this post and especially the comments, where I address exactly that link: http://ruario.ghost.io/2014/03/02/linux-and-blink-powered-opera/

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Great post!!

        It will come when it has to and all this debate will be forgotten for the best, but another question is: will it be feature paired with the current Win/Mac version by then?

        It’s one of the reasons I refuse to ditch Windows in favor of Linux and I refuse to use another browser, after 6 years with Opera. I just don’t belong anywhere else.

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          will it be feature paired with the current Win/Mac version by then?

          Since we are playing catchup, it might not be 100% there out of the box but yes, the intention would be to have the same feature set as the other platforms.

          • Cqoicebordel

            You’re playing catchup ?
            Does it mean that at some point in the past, the Linux version wasn’t planned ?

          • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

            It was always planned but more resources were devoted to getting the other platforms ready, simply because they pay the bills. We make Linux products for the love of it! :)

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Well, not that LOTS of features have been added. I understand you are into building a foundation for future UI and feature improvement, hopefully you can leap to next phase soon.

  • Вадік Дудар

    when opera will sync my passwords?
    and bookmarks only on start page?
    and show me how many MB opera turbo economy for me? (like in mobile version)?

    • bruce lawson

      “and bookmarks only on start page?”

      Can you explain what you mean in more detail, please, and why it’s important?

      • Вадік Дудар

        in chrome and yandex browser bookmark bar showed only in startpage. when i go to site, bookmarks panel is hiding. try.
        sorry for bad english.

        • Vux777

          Opera start page is Speed Dial with bookmarks organized in folders, or at least that’s how is planed to be used

          • Вадік Дудар

            this type of realisation look ugly (
            for 20-30 sites, maybe,. but 200-300? .. in old opera i can find my bookmark much faster (even if i don`t know in what place search it)

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Can you post a screenshot to see how chrome handles 200-300 bookmarks in the start screen?

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      WTF? Are they supposed to know your comsuption? Is that what you’re saying? hahaha, kidding, I suggested that myself 5 years ago when Turbo was first introduced, plus having some options for making it work on a per-site basis as some sites were under heavy pressure and others not, I was ignored then even when core improvements were not the priority as now.

      Hopefully one day we’re given more options and control.

      • Вадік Дудар

        its not very important, but… opera mobile (android) is based on blink. used the same (maybe) servers for turbo. i don`t think that port the counter of MB economy is very hard. yandex brovser alredy has do this thing. without blink as i know.

  • senna_4ever

    when the .mhtml will be in Opera by default?

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      When it is deemed ready. You can use it in an experimental form today. Check out opera://flags/#save-page-as-mhtml

      • senna_4ever

        yes Daniel, I know it. It’s because this is working so fine a long time I don’t see why this is in “flags” still.

  • naranj

    google image search dont work

    • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

      Works for me.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      What do you mean by “don’t work”? You will need to be a lot more specific.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Google does browser sniffing, we all know. Giving Opera users stone age old version of Google Image. But they’e fixing it I think.

      • Dmitry Kirin

        Extensions implementing the context menu option ‘search by image’ are redirected to an empty Google Image Search page. With forced user agent string of IE9, they work correctly, so it’s definitely a browser sniffing issue. I’ve already written about it.

      • IllusionMH

        Opera without and with changed UA string
        http://monosnap.com/image/2g2QhojvmOr9vPoZPfgZadJ9EnywNz.png

        This is really kills half of functionality for images search.

        • Rafael Luik

          I’ll define “don’t work” for you @Aeyoun:disqus, your BFFs at Google are “helping” you with browser sniffing again, that way you can have less users while they get more Chrome users. It’s nice, isn’t it?

          Congrats for the healthy relationship you have with Googlers. :))))

        • naranj

          as @IllusionMH explained @Daniel Aleksandersen

  • Ryan Dunbar

    Can you add the option to save-as MHT

    • Dmitry Kirin

      There is a flag for that: opera://flags/#save-page-as-mhtml

      • Dave-H

        That works, but it removes any other option, so only mhtml is available!
        Surely there should be a choice as to what format you save in, as there is on other browsers (including Opera 12).
        :-)

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Yeah, quite a strange choice indeed, either mhtml or regular html, but not both. I’ve asked a question about the reason of that, no answer.

  • Denis Wong

    “DNA-19556 Remove Site preferences flag”

    Guess plans for this were dropped for the time being?

  • Ryan Dunbar

    Can you add “Mozilla Archive Format” or something similar to your next version. http://www.ghacks.net/2009/11/13/save-websites-with-mozilla-archive-format/

    I use opera 12.16 for my bookmarks and sync
    I use opera 21.x for my daily webbing
    I use IE 11, by coping the web-link from my opera 21.x address-bar, then paste it in IE 11 address-bar, then save the web-page as MHT, then close IE.

    thanks

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      opera://flags/#save-page-as-mhtml

  • Denyer

    Side tabs – Are they planned? I know some Opera representatives have said “Tab improvements are coming”, but realistically, if I can’t get the tabs on the side, I can’t move from Opera 12. My screen is wide, not tall – and I can have maybe 8 tabs open before I run out of space.

    Perhaps that’s intentional given the memory-gobbling of the chrome model (Or maybe I just can’t interpret the task manager, but with Facebook’s tab reporting 270,000kb of Private memory, what else am I to think but OUCH?), but being able to put the tabs on the side has always, always been a key feature in Opera, and one of the primary reasons I’m still on 12.x (That and inbuilt mail and RSS, which I am still unwilling to surrender! The SmartRSS plugin is actually remarkably good, though it feels odd not having it in a side panel. Can’t get over the idea of having to install Outlook, though…)

    • bruce lawson

      “Side tabs – Are they planned? … My screen is wide, not tall – and I can have maybe 8 tabs open before I run out of space.” – noted.

      • Denyer

        Oh you lot really know how to tease, you realise that? :)

      • Denyer

        You lot really know how to tease, do you realise that? ;)

      • ayespy

        Hopefully, y’all will do more than “note” it. It’s a HUGE item on my wish list. So much so, if it’s never coming, it may be the one thing that will eventually ensure I change to another browser.

    • Вадік Дудар

      side tabs for what? opera 12 has mail, download center, torrent, bookmarks, notes in side tabs… now in opera 21+ i think this is unneeded.
      Maybe grouping tabs (like in opera 12) will be more useful

      • Denyer

        Perhaps you misunderstand. I do not mean panels, I mean being able to put my browser tabs down the left or right side. That way I can see more of the website top-to-bottom, and I can have more tabs open, AND be able to read the titles on the tabs.

        • Вадік Дудар

          oh. sorry. real missmathed it

  • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

    With Opera Turbo enabled, Local-host request are also being forward through turbo.

    • Вадік Дудар

      nope. it will direct work for me

      • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

        Are you sure? I am talking about Server hosted on local computer, not locally saved files/pages.

        • Вадік Дудар

          yes, i`m sure. Denwer startpage localhost working good. , site in my local lan working good.

          • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

            Strange, I have development server on my PC and when i try to access it with Turbo enabled, it takes much longer than turbo off.

          • Вадік Дудар

            much longer – maybe. but work)

  • Wraith

    In this page: http://www.espal3ds.com
    The controls buttons on the top left (facebook, rss,twitter,youtube, instagram) blinks everytime you scroll up or down, this doesn´t happen on firefox or Chrome.

  • Rick Bergmann

    Thanks for your work on the new Opera. I hope to see tab stacking and bookmark manager in new Opera soon. I truly miss Dragonfly. Those are the 3 reasons why I have to use 2 different Opera browsers.

  • Inquisitor

    http://www.keek.com doesn’t seem to work: video screen won’t open. (It works fine in Firefox)
    Not sure if some extension is preventing it from opening.
    (Strangely enough, it is not working in O12 either… )

    • Вадік Дудар

      adblock

      • Inquisitor

        Disabled Adblock – same result: no video.

        • Вадік Дудар

          really don`t work (
          bug

          • Rinne Tensei

            It is HTML 5 H:264 video player (mp4). Opera does not support it. both audio & video codecs are not supported. Opera don’t want pay the royalties I guess

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Inquisitor, for Windows 7/8, you can install the “WMP html5″ extension, which allows to play H.264-encoded videos (MP4) – additional details, here.

      • Inquisitor

        I gave it a try and installed the extension, but still the video won’t play. :(

        • L33t4opera

          In that case, you can try another solutions:
          1. Download the latest Chrome for Windows (currently 34.0.1847.114), and install it,
          2. Go to the “…Application34.0.1847.137″ subdir (should be located in the Chrome installation root – e.g. “C:Program FilesGoogle”), inside it you should find the “PepperFlash” subdir,
          3. Copy the “PepperFlash” directory, to your Opera installation root, and then you can safely uninstall Chrome.

          (instead of the above steps, you can download the “Pepper Flash” zip archive from here, and unpack it in your Opera installation root),

          4. To launch the Opera with the “PepperFlash” plugin, you need to add two command line switches at the end of the shortcut to the “launcher.exe” file, as below:

          “…launcher.exe” –ppapi-flash-path=”…PepperFlashpepflashplayer.dll” –ppapi-flash-version=13.0.0.214

          5. After you launch the Opera, go to the address bar, and type “opera://plugins/”, and press enter, then under the “Plug-ins” enable the “PepperFlash” plugin, and also be sure, that the Adobe Flash plug-in is disabled (if you have it installed, of course).

          • Inquisitor

            Thanks for the advice, but it’s all too complicated for me. To start with, I can’t figure out where the Opera installation root is located on my machine, and I’m reluctant to tinker with the ‘inner workings’ of the directory files. I guess if I need to play MP4 files, I’ll switch to Firefox.

          • L33t4opera

            You can check it in: O-Menu>About Opera>Paths>Install – on the right of the “Instal”, you should see the path to the installation root.

  • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

    Unable to copy URL from address bar when page is loading.
    Windows 8.1

    • IllusionMH

      Confirmed. Selection is changed(disappears few times) during loading.
      Windows 8.1 x64

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Confirmed. Windows 7 x86

    • Вадік Дудар

      just few minutes ago tested it. work. maybe don`t copy when hard drive overloaded or net connection is slow.
      ||why you need copy adress exactly when page is loading? u can`t wait few seconds?

      • IllusionMH

        Sounds like: “You holding it wrong!”

        In any case this is bug with selection in address field

  • bruce lawson

    I know most readers are very shy about expressing an opinion ;-) so we’ve put together a short survey about tab handling which we invite you to complete. It should take between 2 and 10 minutes to complete, but please feel free to give as much information about your workflow and usecases as you want.

    A use-case is much more useful to us than (for example) a terse “bring back tab stacking”. I wrote “I have many tabs open, but they tend to be in logical groups – Opera blogs, web standards blogs, McFly fan pages. i’d like to be able to group them physically to save horizontal space” My goal could be achieved in another way than the old tab-stacking way, so an idea of problems to be solved rather than proposed solutions helps the designers more.

    Here’s the survey: http://fluidsurveys.com/s/better_tabs/public/

    • ayespy

      Absolutely, absolutely pleased you are doing this.

    • Leif Roar Moldskred

      While I do most of the mentioned user stories at times, my main uses of tabs isn’t really covered by any of them.

      * I use tabs to frontload a queue of web-pages to go through. For instance, most mornings one of the first things I do online is to choose “Open all folder items” on my webcomics folder, then go put on a cup of tea while they load (it’s a big folder) and then work my way through them with CTRL+W. When reading newspapers, I’ll go to the frontpage, then “Open in background tab” the articles that piqued my interest. Once I’m done with the frontpage, I work my way through the articles with CTRL+W again.

      * When reading technical documentation online, I’ll use tabs to keep track of the various points of interests — a bit like keeping track of a previous position in a book by placing a thumb between the pages. Again, “Open in background” whenever I drill from an overview into individual sections or when following cross-links between sections.

      * When working with web-applications, I use tabs to keep multiple entry-points into the UI open to avoid pointless clicking to navigate between screens or to keep forms from being reset.

      * Often, a task simply involves working with several different web-services or applications at once. Developing a web-application, for instance, might involve two or three tabs with pages from that application, pages from applications or middleware that application is talking to, one for the application server’s admin UI, a GMail or other e-mail service tab, a tab for Splunk, two or three for Jira, one for editing Confluence, a separate for referencing Confluence, one for the Jenkins server, several for API or protocol documentation, one for FitNesse, one for the Merriam-Webster web-page and one for The Daily WTF (just to stay sane.)

    • fanboi punisher

      Amongst many many things Chropera needs this https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/tab-grouper/
      One click, everything is grouped and stacked up and individual stacks can be closed with a single click.

      When I’m having 10 tabs of something, 6 tabs of something else etc, etc, and I want to keep let’s say only 5 of them, it is very annoying having to shift-click all these tabs in order to close them.

      The original dev of it when asked about porting it to the new Opera responded:

      “Opera 15+ does not support tab groups.”
      https://github.com/starsolaris/tab_grouper/issues/5

      So this is even more needed -the ability must be there in some basic form at least- for others to be able to do something with it. I would prefer you would it though.

    • Nekomajin42

      Thanks for the survey. It is really a good idea. I hope you will use this with other developements.

      However, I’d like to say two things.
      First, you don’t have to reinvent the wheel every time. Yes, we love new ideas, new ways, but there are several features in O12 which are just good as they are. Just copy them. At least for start. In the future, when you will have time to polish or rethink them, you can do it. But until then, they are good. Tab stacking is one of them.
      We also like simple things. You can have fancy icons and smooth animations, but nothing beats a tree-structure bookmark manager.
      (sidenote: Simple does not mean dumb. Simple means it looks simple, but it has powerful options for those who want it.)

      Second, when you try to guess user behavior, you walk on the dark path. (Yeah, I know, they have cookies. :)) You should give tools and options and teach the users how to use them. As a teacher, I see that many people can’t use computers. On one hand, they were born before the internet boom, or live in poor territories, or other causes. On the other hand, large companies are woking on creating dumber and even dumber software to serve these users, instead of teaching them how to use the software properly.
      I know that user = money, but I believe that there is a way between dumb software and loosing users. I think, with the legacy of Opera, you should turn more attention to teach users, instead of working full-power to serve there needs.

      • Vux777

        Tab stacking (Opera Presto like) in Blink environment is very hard to achieve, even for Opera developers with rewritten UI.
        If Google doesn’t start that path (and I hardly doubt that, they have some other lame ideas about tab organization), we won’t see any of “Presto like” tab stacking.
        Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but even Firefox (with much more customizable UI) doesn’t have Opera tab stacking. (and it’s not like that there is no need for it).
        Closes they get, is something like this or this.
        Presto was truly piece of art from graphical side and functionality, if only it’s JS engine (Carakan)was half of that good… last year or two, tho.

        • Nekomajin42

          I don’t see how Blink comes to the picture. Tab stacking should be achieved via the GUI. That’s the point of the own GUI layer, isn’t it?

          • Vux777

            depends how deep that Opera’s rewritten GUI goes…
            so far, rounded tab corners, speed dial icon instead of home icon and O-button on tab bar
            …but Comodo Dragon also have that ๏̯͡๏
            and Comodo is not exactly a browser developing company
            chrome (GUI) is tightly connected to blink
            and those vendors can change only those things that don’t effect Blink API’s, behavior… and breaks it
            and tab stacking sure does…it’s not just graphical “trick”
            tab movement, position, highlight, attach-detach…I think all of those methods would be screwed if Opera starts messing with it

          • Nekomajin42

            They’ve said that they had to rebuilt it from scratch. But some clarification from the devs would be good.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            You are correct about this.
            Opera has built its own flexible UI layer on top of Chromium. It DOES allow these kinds of tweaks :)

          • Vux777

            Do you know that for sure?
            I mean, have you seen their documentation or someone from dev’s told you “yes, we can change tabs behavior in that way…” ?
            Cause general comments on blogs like “we have rewritten UI” hardly covers that…

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            Neither one of those.
            But I happen to have BTS access :)
            I’ve seen some experimental mockups of the aforementioned tab improvements. I’m not allowed to tell you more about what they are or what they look like, but they do involve visual adjustments as well. So yes, tab stacking WOULD be possible.

          • Vux777

            ok
            I’m looking forward to see it implemented

    • ryofurue

      I ended up checking 7 of the 10 choices for the first question! Only three are accepted . . . And items 2 and 9 are actually the same thing, if you replace “buy” with “look for” and “answer” with “product”; I don’t see difference between items 7 and 9; activity 8 includes activity 4 (8 is a better organized way of doing 4); item 10 is just an example of item 3—Your list isn’t organized well! :-)

      Considering these redundancies, I was able to cut my choices down to four, but not any smaller.

      Then, item 8 is what I used to do when tab stacking was available and what I want do to now if there is an easy way, but it’s not “how [I] use Tabs” now because there isn’t an easy way. :-( .

      Well, unchecking one item and proceeding . . .

    • ryofurue

      “How many tabs do you have open on avarage?”—this isn’t a good question. I try to minimize the number of tabs, only because there aren’t easy way to organize them!!

      I hope you won’t be too much influenced by the result of this survey.

      Edit: Well, I’ve just realized that the next question asks “What keeps you from having more Tabs open?”—Good question. And sorry for the wrong comment

    • Marko Koivuniemi

      Thanks. Almost missed this survey. I have roughly 50 tabs open always and there are many group of tabs based of my various usage of browser. Multiple windows is one solutions but that has caused problems couple of times when I have accidentally closed both of windows and after restarts tabs of another windows are gone.

  • taneli

    Cannot select URL at all on some pages, ie. in here: http://kuvaton.com/3/ when browsing through the pages, just randomly can’t select URL anymore (sometimes it happens on page 1, sometimes on page 2, sometimes on 3, etc…).

  • Inquisitor

    It’s not possible to file my tax return on-line using my electronic ID-card with the Opera browser. When I try to sign in with my eID and PIN the system goes in an endless spin trying to identify me. Opera doesn’t seem to accept the eID middleware software. :(

    I have no problem signing in with Firefox or Epic browsers.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Most likely, it’s the middleware that does not accept Opera. Have you tried Opera with another browser’s user agent string?

      • Inquisitor

        I contacted the Tax Office Help Desk, and they said that Opera does not support the eID middleware. So I wonder why Chrome and Epic work fine, while Opera fails; yet all three browser use the Chromium/Blink engine.

        • Dmitry Kirin

          The help desk may be simply unaware/not caring that Opera Presto is not the same thing as Opera Blink. They may be just reading the system technical requirements which, quite possibly, don’t mention Opera.

          I’d still suggest trying other user agent strings. If Chrome’s identification does not help, it will mean there’s something wrong with Opera. If it helps, though, we won’t be able to make a meaningful conclusion, unless we get anything more from their devs, which as I understood, is unlikely.

          • Inquisitor

            I tried both Opera12 (Presto) and Opera 23 (Blink) and neither worked. I mentioned this to the Help Desk.

            Using another browser’s user agent string is rather pathetic. I could just as well use another browser altogether.

  • Onaj Tamo

    I like that you gave some love to HTML5 and CSS3!

    Down with Flash!

    • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

      Flash sucks so much, but I need to install this s**t and update it, because of some sites. I’m still waiting for full support of HTML5 Player in YouTube like Google Chrome does.

  • Farhan Rashid

    The main reason I prefer Opera over chrome is less memory usage. But I am sorry to say this version 23 is using much more memory than previous versions. I hope developers will look into this matter. Thanks :)

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Yes, it’s being investigated already :)

  • Chris Cantolino

    Ooh, starting to catch up with the original Opera!

  • escruting

    Oopsie…

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It may be interesting to note that the page detects Opera Blink as Chrome.

      • Rafael Luik

        LOL, what a big FAIL @escruting:disqus!

  • Der Herr Nick

    Something that really bugs me:
    very often when I load a new site it looses its focus and I cannot use keyboard shortcuts or go back to the former site using backspace or search the page using Ctrl+F. It doesn’t happen always and I have no clue what may cause this annoying problem. Or is it a feature and I don’t get it?

  • Areopagit

    ВЕРНИТЕ нормальную древовидную структуру закладок с доступом из меню!!! Жду еще с 15 версии!!!

  • kapsi

    Are you ever gonna implement H264?

  • Adolf Hitler

    Opera Software на самом деле изобрел Адольф Гитлер, продемонстрировав тем самым наши умы, чтобы те, кто украл идею у Гитлера Adolt!

  • From Poland!

    Hi! Whether in the end you can add to the new Opera, possibility of expand the strip of the address? I’m mean the function: “Show Dropdown Button In Addressfield” > this option is in Opera 12.16 by turn on it in config!

    This function is lacking and I would ask for adding it, what this function disturbing to you?

    I also ask about adding function, when click in right button of the mouse to the picture it on the menu is lacking option: Properties picture… can you add this function? Generally speaking look at this menu from Opera 12.16 is lacking few options, you will add them in the end?

    I mean this possibility: addons.opera.com/pl/extensions/details/classic-images/?display=en-US

    Why I need to adding this as the addition, after all it should be a default option in Opera!

    • AS

      Can somebody answer me?

    • bruce lawson

      Thanks for your comment. “Why I need to adding this as the addition, after all it should be a default option in Opera!” Why should it be a default option? How many people need it? What’s wrong with the extension?

      • AS

        *******It is no spam! Please not emphasize this message as a spam! It is a normal message to the developer!*********

        @bruce lawson you answered me for the second time, but you had to remove the comment, but I have it from e-mail so I answer you:

        Option “Show Dropdown Button In Addressfield” is needed for developing the strip of the address, when important addresses are written down, can choose from list the address old opera had this option and IE11 and Mozilla 29 have this option, why Opera 20xx can’t has this option? Please to understand and to implement this option, it isn’t demanding from my side, only request, very lack this option, please reading this topic on Opera forum, some users reported the lack of this option and nobody of developers don’t answered them! Opera 12.17 enables to include this option through config, so I would ask entering this option into the new opera by turn it on in config. Currently location bar looks empty without this option up to the expansion. I somehow cannot use the new Opera, because I’m lacking this important option, because I’m writing important addresses down into the browser.

      • AS

        It should be a default option, because:

        1. The old Opera has this option.
        2. Two competitive browsers IE and Mozilla has this option (and glory for them by it)
        3. This option is needed for this to can browse properties of the image which is added on some site or forum. What’s wrong with you people? Why this option disturbed you and you didn’t introduce it? Why the Opera is poor and doesn’t have a majority former function? So what, that the Opera is fast but poor and not very functional. The glory for the author for this extension, but this option should be a basic option at the Opera, it’s ridiculous to adding it by the addition.

  • Guest

    Google Drive extension doesn’t install in Opera? Is there anything I can do? I have “Download Chrome Extension” installed. I haven’t checked can I install it another Opera versions either. (Urgent need to use copy/paste to Google Drive document)

  • Tiago Silva

    So, O23 does not support the Rubik Cube Google Doodle? Do I need to activate some //flags?

    • IllusionMH

      As always Google just using browser sniffing to serve cutted version for Opera users(IMHO with no reasons).
      You can change UA string to Chrome and see that it actually works.
      Ctrl+Shift+I > Esc > on Emulation tab select User Agent item and then select something like Chrome 31. Reload the page.

      • Tiago Silva

        Thanks. So, what’s the point of not using Presto, exactly?

        • IllusionMH

          Presto had some lag in popular features and it was hard to maintain this engine as well as massive user script that was supposed to solve sites problems because they don’t add proper prefixes for Opera.

          Why Google use browser sniffing now – IDK. It is really strange and very mean.

  • A. R.

    What’s with adding an internal PDF reader?

    But with Opera 12 was decided to ditch all extra.

    Which is fine for me, but people though that at least basic Opera 12 signature features, such as tab stacking, and the sidebar (at least notes), would be brought about at the new Opera?

    Well that didn’t happen.

    But here comes internal PDF reader. Where are other features?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      There’s no internal pdf reader on Opera.

  • AS

    Remove this brown frame which is in the field of the log-on, in the field of writing the text on the forum, this brown frame is ugly! Why you in general added it, give a possibility trun off this brown frame!

    Marking the text don’t work good to the end, fix this! Improve this Opera! I’m repeating I ask about add possibilities of expand the strip of the address to can choose addresses written down, IE11, Mozilla 29 has this possibility, but Opera not! Why are you so strange? Why you off-load majorities good functions!

  • Ralf Brinkmann
  • shane

    Adding bookmarks via the heart menu makes the bookmarks bar visible, which is most certainly not what I want (does anyone want that visible, wasting screen real estate?).

    It also doesn’t let me choose a folder to add the bookmark to.

    Note I use ‘Tidy Bookmarks’ extension for bookmark management due to lack of native support in Opera.

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