Opera Developer 22!

Today marks the first release of Opera Developer 22. For this initial developer release our primary focus has been on backend changes to ready ourselves for future improvements in the UI and elsewhere.

Nonetheless, 22 is a major update and includes hundreds of bug fixes, crash fixes and site rendering improvements (see our changelog for the full list).

In addition some UI improvements are already visible, such as a new Encoding Menu, an update to our default themes and a better (silent) update process on Windows. Our new silent update allows for a more seamless update to the latest version. There are no buttons to click and no UAC (User Account Control) dialog interrupting your workflow. You will be automatically updated to ensure you always have the most recent and most secure Opera version.

Note: This build will not silently update, that will happen from the next Developer release.

Thanks again for your testing and feedback, which is (as always) greatly appreciated!

Highlights

  • Update to Chromium 35.0.1883.0
  • Silent update
  • New default themes
  • Encoding menu

Downloads

Full changelog

  • stiankrosd

    The changelog isn’t where it is supposed to be.

    • blackcoder

      Confirmed.

      • L33t4opera

        The change log is already visible ;-)

  • Leonardo Gomes

    New flags:

    Extension API experiments

    One-click installation of extensions

    First run import

    Gesture tap highlighting

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      But GPU raster is gone now.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Yep, I’ve noticed. Maybe it’s already integrated to Aura?

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          Still one less option.

          I will always feel uneasy with “smart” software.

  • Kurt Zon

    thank you opera Team – firing up now!!!!!!!!!

  • L33t4opera

    Thanks for info Ruarí, I’m going to test the brand new Opera Developer 22 ;-)

  • Leonardo Gomes

    Impl-side painting is working. Or, at least, not causing problems on dropdown menus.

    • RX-3200

      it working, but it shows a blurred div then you opening the folder with two dozen pictures inside in speeddial, before folder div load completely
      so I disable it

  • Leonardo Gomes

    503 points on html5test.com

    • Vux777

      what OS?

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Win 8.1 x64.

        • Vux777

          I’m on win7…I’ve edited my previous post just when you post his one ツ

      • Leonardo Gomes

        With défaut flags i used to get something around this number.

    • hylik

      LOL it show MathML support when it’s like 1 year that Google removed it from Blink!

  • Niyawa

    Speed Dial thumbnails haven’t been fixed yet, it seems. Not having Adblock and other scripts enabled make them look uglier, it’s not nice.

  • Alexander Mardari

    Do I sense side / tree-style tabs coming?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Hmm, why do you sense it?

      • Alexander Mardari

        For this initial developer release our primary focus has been on backend changes to ready ourselves for future improvements in the UI and elsewhere.

  • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

    Thanks Ruari. Pls also gave more info about new flags.

  • Leonardo Gomes

    4980 points on Peacekeeper.

    • Wraith

      Yes, Is higher than Chrome at the moment.

  • Olli

    So where is the Mac version?

  • Cryio

    So ehm, I hope it works well?

    I still have one major gripe with this new Opera, and it’s a rendering thing.

    Sometimes (half the times) when I open a speed dial, it opens an empty page and THEM it loads the dials and theme. It’s just so obvious that the Speed Dial is not yet completely native. I don’t even have to say that I have to close the speed dial occasionally because nothing loads at all. (not in O20, not in Next 21)

    • http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

      CPU, RAM, Connection speed? Any other clues you can give us?

      • Cryio

        FX6300, 8 GB DDR3 1333, stable 40 Mbps, Windows 8.1 x64.
        It’s random to be honest.

        • http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

          So it is not performance issue for sure (I’ve seen something similar on low end netbooks).

          It is difficult to figure out something without a context. How frequent is it? 50%? 10%? 1%?

          • Cryio

            Let’s say I open utorrent and my HDD takes a toll and spikes in load. If I start Opera then, it loads blank.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Cryio, you can add the “–disable-gpu-compositing” switch to the “launcher.exe”, as follows:"...launcher.exe --disable-gpu-compositing"If this doesn’t help, then try to add the “–disable-gpu” switch, as below:"...launcher.exe --disable-gpu"Maybe this one will help you. For more details, please have a look here.

  • VladdSerbia

    I don’t want anything updating silently on my PC! In fact, I would like an option in Opera to turn off automatic updates. I’m the one who should decide do I want to update or not, after I see the changelogs.
    Thanks for the release.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I see your point but i think that silent updates is/will be the future and we will have to deal with it sooner or later.

      Anyway, “power users” will always find a way to block them.

      • NoName

        I would be nice to have the “blocking” build in, for power users.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      I support this wish.

    • RingMyDingDong

      how about making ‘silent update’ optional?

      • Alex Kevarsky

        Option is a feature. Features confuse Opera’s new target audience. So – “No”.

        • Krasen Ivanov

          hahaha this was awsome! ;)

          (also very true and sad)

        • Darrien Lambert

          You got it!

        • NIBB

          Audience doest not need to change anything they don´t want. There is some notion on the Internet that users are stupid and cannot make choice. Just ship with default users for most people but have the options there for power users.

          Opera base users where always power users, not idiots.

    • II_ARROWS

      Agree, as good as this is for the average user, this is an unwanted and unwelcome option for me.
      I want to know what and when anything is updated, and if I have to update it.
      If something goes wrong, I know what’s new.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      There’s an auto update exe file, delete it.

      But I agree it should be an option.

      • al_ghul

        where? can You paste a path?

        • Paczus

          It’s in the folder where you installed the browser. Well, technically in the subfolder that’s named after currently installed version, in this case 22.0.1457.0.

          • al_ghul

            ok, it’s there, thanks!

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Look at About Opera. It’s on the build folder under Opera’s install folder.

          • al_ghul

            ok, ok, thx, I found it earlier, smbd deleted Hector’s comment, where he answered;)

          • al_ghul

            it was answered bo someone earlier, but has gone with disqus problem/bug;) (it appears when changing e.g. sort mechanism).

          • Leonardo Gomes

            I saw after the reply. When i replied, Disqus wasn’t showing the the other reply.

          • al_ghul

            it was answered bo someone earlier, but has gone with disqus problem/bug;) (it appears when changing e.g. sort mechanism).

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          Also go to system settings, open environment variables, create a new one and name it: OPERA_AUTOUPDATE_DISABLED, assign any value you want, I entered a “c”. The three branches will stop looking for updates upon restart.

          • al_ghul

            thx a lot, i’ll try this…

    • meh

      This.
      Sometimes I use my laptop with a traffic-limited inernet connection, moment when I’m totally not interested in auto update.

      • marwerno

        Totally agree: With my Laptop being on expensive roaming data via my mobile a 20MB silent update could cost me as much as 323,60 EUR!!!
        At least make it so, that it will notify that there is a update, but don’t just download it.
        (I am not kidding: read on page 2, buttom (in German) MB-Preis (= Price per MB in Zone 3):
        http://www.klarmobil.de/pdf/preislisten/klarmobil_roamingpreise.pdf

      • Mohammad Imtianul Haque Dimik

        I deleted the auto update files from the installation directory. No more auto update :)

    • Scribe_uk

      Agreed, it’s essential that I can do updates when I want to. I will not use it without that option.

    • Tomáš Pavlík

      Totally agree. User should have a full control over his PC/broswer. Not the way around.

    • ABDX

      fast solution: install Ccleaner and delete OPERA’s update scheduled task.
      EASY !

    • kabforks

      I like this

    • Chas4

      It is very similar to what many others are doing, tho I would also like to know before an update (you see this issue a lot in the enterprise, as they have a lot of testing to do)

  • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

    I am not sure why but it is crashing again after enable syn. Pls confirm.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Sync is enabled here and no crashes so far.
      Win 8.1 x64 if it matters.

    • NoName

      Works here, Win 8.1. What service are you using to login?

      • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

        Opera account. But maybe it reagrds with other thing.

        • NoName

          I’m using Opera account as well. So could be other things, yea.

    • Wraith

      Same problem, I thought I was the only one, after sync is on I have several crashes in a row, maybe is when the speed dial is updating the thumbnail, I don´t know but it crashes a lot., this begin to happen since the previous release!.

  • NoName

    I get NSL issues when restoring a session.
    While they try to load, each tab uses a full CPU core!

    When I select the tab, the tab starts rendering, and everything seems to run normal (for the selected tab only). When I have selected all tabs with the NSL issue, everything seems okay.

    I tried to disable the “Onload event delay” flag, but the issue persist.

  • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

    PLEASE add the option to turn off the automatic updates…

    As someone who often uses Opera on laptop connected to internet via Internet Sharing from my phone, I do not want to get my FUP limits on mobile internet wasted on Opera updates.

    • Max Nrws

      Delete after every install:
      opera_autoupdate.exe
      opera_crashreporter.exe

      • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

        The variable is much more permanent and easier solution than deleting files after each update (which you may forget to do so).

        Still, some setting inside the browser + manual updates directly from browser would be the right way to solve this issue.

    • Marcin Mitek

      Create OPERA_AUTOUPDATE_DISABLED variable in your OS. Set anything you want for the value.

      • Nekomajin42

        Temporary solution, but what about a built-in one?

      • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

        And then I will have to update to new versions by running the installer?

        I wish there was a really simple thing in settings/about; something like this:
        Updates
        [ ] (<- that is a checkbox) Enable automatick updates
        Manullaly check for updates button, and next to it after it checks either "There are no new updates available" or "Update available + update now button"

        But at least thanks for that temporary workaround. Does it have to be a "System variable" or it can be an "User variable" as well? Under Windows, in "Environment Variables".

        • Saskatchewan

          It can be a user variable. I also wish there’s a simple way to check for updates when they’re disabled this way.

          • marwerno

            It is interesting that we are discussing something that has been solved already in the Opera 12 Version….
            Default was “Automatically install updates” but was easily changed:
            Simply put this option as it used to be in the new Opera

        • Nekomajin42

          Perfect.

        • Fhury

          You are a genius compared to the logic used by Opera. They must be smoking some strange weed at Opera HQ.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            I sincerely don’t see the genius or the logic in that. Suppose the dev team does that, and you go to the option and the update button appears. How do you know you want that version installed?

          • Fhury

            Eh? Sorry but I do not understand your point.
            The information on screen would be: installed version, followed by the current version, followed by an update button. Am I missing something?

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            It’s not that hard to understand.

            Let’s say you have disabled autoupdate because you don’t want to risk having the browser updated to a buggy new version.

            Now you go to that screen and find the Update button. It means there is a new version you can install.

            Why on earth would you click that button? You don’t know if the new version is buggy.

            You need to come here and see the changelog and the comments. Then you can click the download link, if you want.

            If you will blindly click the Update button, you might as well enable autoupdates. It would be the same thing, with less work.

            Well thought-out software do a different thing. It informs you that there is a new version and offers you to visit the website to check it out. THAT would make sense.

          • marwerno

            Simple:
            If I am on my local network, I press the Update button.
            If I am on expensive roaming, I DON’T press the Update button.
            I am given a choice NOT TO update while I am on expensive roaming.
            And yes, having a direct link to the change log would be great as well. Who knows, it might be worthwhile to download while on roaming still :-)

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Frankly, it looks like too specific a scenario to care about. If you are on expensive roaming and you get a message telling that there is an update available, but you don’t want to download it at the time, you can visit the site later, when you are not on roaming. No need for a button in that case either. But I guess people will split hairs forever.

          • Fhury

            Thanks for your explanation. Guess we both look for more or less the same functionality.

        • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

          Pavel, it really really really sounds like you *want* your browser to autoupdate. Why would you, if not, want to turn on the option whenever a new version is available? Wouldn’t that be the same thing? Getting the new versions whenever they appear? What would be the case scenario to have it turned off and turn it on at the only times it will be necessary? You say you don’t want autoupdates, but you don’t want to run the installer either, so what would be the big difference between turning on a feature every time there is a new version available and just clicking on the damn installer? You have to dig a bit in any case.

          • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

            Hmmm;

            – I want the browser update process to be as simple as possible
            – I do not want the browser to automatically download new versions without asking me (the downloading is problem, not installing, because as I mentioned earlier, it wastes traffic from already small data limits on internet sharing from mobile phone)

            The “autoupdate checkbox + manual update button” in browser directly is, from users point of view, much more comfortable than having to run the updater myself.

            If I could choose the most prefered solution, it would be “automatically check for updates and inform me, but download and install them only after I approve it”, but this one seems to be less and less popular among any software (although it is the best one for me, personally); because it is the least interaction I would have to do, while knowing when stuff is downloaded and being able to read changelog/release notes before update.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            But if you will come to this blog to look at the changelog, it will be easier to click on the download link than to go to the settings and click on the update button. It really makes no sense to have such a superfluous feature.

          • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

            Well; at least the “enable auto updates” checkbox should be there. Having to run the browser with specific parameters or creating system variables is not a real solution.

            The additional settings about auto updates would be nice to have — I would really love the behavior “Notify about new updates, but ask before installing or downloading them”.

            Manual checks for updates MAKE sense, because sometimes you want to update ASAP; sure, you probably can run the installer by yourself, but it’s not as comfortable as built-in solution.

            For instance, I would not install the new update, because it looks like it has two critical bugs and no new features. And I kinda feel bad for people who got autoupdated to that version.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            The objection still stands. How did you know that this version has critical bugs? You had to come here and read the post. There is no scenario where you see the update button and say, “Oh yes, now I know everything I need to know to install this.” If you click that button you are as confident as if you enable autoupdate. So, useless option.

            EDIT: I agree with the need for *autoupdate itself* being optional. I am talking about the “blind manual update” option.

          • al_ghul

            you have no right! it’s the same like in windows updates. even if i don’t know if update version is unstable – I’m working on something and during my work I do not want to change eny version of software because of probability of failure. like windows which restarts because of some updates (when auto update is on). I want and prefer to finish my work, and then, when I am relaxing doing nothing, wieving funny videos, and in that time when I am not doing CRUCIAL things on computer – now I am ready to push update button, becasue even if it fails, it doesn’t affect my work. that’s why update button is a must and very good and rational practice! even demonic M$ has it in windows!;P only one scenario when this button/option isn’t crucial: when update doesn’t suffer so much because of some bugs which don’t affect some CRUCIAL browser’s features. the data limits in internet providers are also the case to consider.

          • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

            I still stand with my opinion about the manual update in browser being better than having to download a file and run it.

            But this is really just a nice-to-have, there are MUCH bigger issues which should have been solved already and should be solved before this. Hell, they probably should have been even solved before silent autoupdate.

            The sync logging itself out (AFAIK still haven’t been fixed), sync for more stuff, ACTUAL BOOKMARKS MANAGER, real save dialogue when downloading files (like old Opera had, deciding what to do based on file types, option to open the file directly*, etc), removing default search engines, etc. etc. etc.

            *) This would make the update by running installer a little less painful.

  • abaddon

    Could it be possible to allow users to change keyboard shortcuts to their liking? Also I often use up to three languages for writing, and find it a bit of a hassle not to have a shortcut for cycling through installed spell checker dictionaries.

    • Miskkie

      Customization of anything? “lol no” I’d imagine would be opera’s answer to that.

    • http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

      Very interesting scenario. I also daily write in 3 different languages, and that option would be helpful. I usually use the right click menu.

      It is not super fast, but it works as expected, and I can double check the currently picked language.

    • cgebhard

      It would be nice to have this linked to the current keyboard-layout set in the OS. But I guess that would be hard to realize…

    • RX-3200

      It would be better – to enable all three dictionaries at the same time
      and forget about switching between them at all

    • marwerno

      Agree, I frequently write in German and English. Just having both enabled at the same time would help.
      Of course you would still need to have a basic understanding of grammar as having both enabled would also make it “wrong” in English, but “correct” in German (and vice versa).
      On longer texts, it could probably auto-detect like Outlook does, but on shorter texts I could live with having both enabled.

  • moto0000

    1. Do options to hide [+] on Speed Dial :(
    2. When I clear download history, downloads folder jump :/

  • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

    Eh, no Linux build :(

    • Tomáš Pavlík

      This is getting to be tiresome. Constant waiting and Opera’s keeping silent. I’d really look on to FF’s Australis. :(

      • Black London

        Firefox is my main browser, but I need an alternative for some of my other business, one which also supports Android and has synchronisation. Is Opera really forsaking customers?

  • Vux777

    that FB bug is back, when profile is opened in background tab

    • Marcin Mitek

      Any particular steps? Extensions installer? Seems to be WFM in this build, upgraded from previous Developer, so not a clean installation for sure.

      • Vux777

        no..I always do clean install…just bookmarks, login data, favicons, stash, favorites, thumbnails-db and dictionary folder is transfered from latest NEXT

        it is extension that’s causing it (mine ironically)…opening multiple pages with toolbar button click…if one of those pages is FB profile, FB blueBar gets “padding-top: 159px;”

      • Vux777

        this is how it triggered almost always (no extensions, default flags, new usb install, win7 x64)
        save couple of FB user profiles (7-8) on bookmarks bar or in folder, restart, and open them with middle mouse button in bg tab… fast, one by one
        it has to be regular user profile, not groups, companies or whatever
        all of them, except for users without cover photos will have that padding 159px
        it’s something with automatic window.scrollTo on users profiles, and those without cover img, don’t need to be scrolled

  • helsten2

    No PDFs. The Adobe Acrobat plug-in still keeps crashing…

  • nanana1

    The default SD theme looks ugly here. :(

  • newto

    Ok guys, this will be my last one.

    • Fhury

      To bad, cause I am not enjoying what Opera is dissing out in this blog.
      And humor is always good way to confront our misguided friends at Opera.

    • http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

      newto,
      first of all, you don’t introduce anything constructive for this blog. Be aware, that you can be banned as a troll. Only your creativity stops me to do it already.

      secondly, please read http://www.google.com/permissions/trademark/rules.html and think twice next time before you mess with logos of two different companies.

      • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

        Seriously man?

        First of all, this image is a quite constructive argument. If you fail to see that it’s not Newto’s fault.

        Secondly, before you get all legalese and, frankly, bonkers, you should at least know that satire is protected, trademarks notwithstanding.

        • http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

          I am fine with it. As I said, I don’t do it, because newto is at least creative.

    • Jonathan Aanesen

      If you use your brain for once you can try to realize that both Google Chrome and Opera is running the same engine: Chromium. This means in the start both browsers are doomed to look like each other. And since Chrome started using Chromium before Opera, it looks like Opera is trying to make a copy of Chrome. What we defiantly aren’t trying to do. Opera 15+ that is running the Chromium engine is barely 9 months old and have a huge future ahead of it. Opera will become something greater than it used to in the future, but making the browser again from scratch takes a lot of time. Please keep this in mind next time you’re posting a downgrading picture.

      • Bill Gates

        Opera, overall, is even worse than chrome with extensions. No good gestures (at least chrome has bad extension for that), no bookmark sidebar, no customisation of buttons/gestures, no tab stack, etc. 9 months and there nothing to change at all, very primitive desctop browser with killed popularity.

        • Michał Gołębiowski

          Actually, at least in Poland Opera market share used to decrease until 2013-03 when it announced switching to WebKit (later Blink). Now it’s on a steady rise. It seems the switch paid off for Opera.

      • Fhury

        Reading you comments I can not help noticing you have a problem striking the right tone. I can understand one can become agitated by negative feedback, but I think 99% of the registered members here are loyal Opera fans. Day dreaming bout Opera’s golden future is fine, but when simple things are not addressed or take for ever to implement you cannot expect users to remain 100% calm.

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          Thank you for your reply, and I understand what you’re saying :) Yesterday was not one of the best days of my life and I think my temper got a little out of hand. Which I am truly sorry for. Will keep this in mind for future comments~

          • Fhury

            Happens to us all. Thank you for honest reply.

      • esp3tek

        Opera still without Bookmarks and Full Sync…
        Unfortunately I’ll have to leave Opera after 8 years

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          That’s too bad to hear :c Hope you find another browser that will fit your needs better and make you happy :)

          • Jones

            I can’t believe what I read!
            Is that your answer to an 8 tears loyal opera user?
            I personally can’t boast with that many years, but still enough long user of opera to be termed as loyal user.

            The opera sync haven’t worked for soon 2 years with my galaxy s3. And after all the wait, now you are telling us and hoping that we find a better browser?

            No wonder von Tetzchner left opera!

            Oh and let’s see how long this post will stay in comments….

          • Jones

            Oh and yeah, you are about to loosing me too!

            For fu*k sake, just a few simple features that can be found in small bad browser is all what we require!

          • Jonathan Aanesen

            I can’t force anyone to use our browser, even though I use it myself and love it a lot. What he does is his choice, but of course I want him to continue using Opera. But if that’s not an option for him I wish him good luck and the very best :)

    • NIBB

      Lets hope no, otherwise why would someone choose Opera over Chrome.

  • Nekomajin42

    WOW, it’s an early surprise.
    But, like others, I’d really like to be able to turn the silent update off, or at least get a popup warning before the update. I don’t care if silent update is default, but make it optional, please!
    (Or copy the Firefox way, because at this time, that is the best solution.)

    Other feature requests:
    – Optional confirm exit on Windows (either with shortcut and window control X)
    – Add a few icons to the context menus (http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera20fordesktop/#comment-1269745605)

  • christian

    Still not possible to install on my XP SP3 system. Installer crashing immediately.

    • Max Nrws

      I have the same problem (WinXP SP3)
      I can install: Opera Next 20.0.1387.59 ; Opera Stable 20.0.1387.82; Opera Developer 21.0.1419.0
      When trying newer version 21 or 22 – error.

  • Connla Caoinbhriathrach

    The Alt+D keyboard shortcut to focus the addressbar now opens the Opera menu at the same time.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Connla, if you would like, you can try one of another keybindings for this feature: “Ctrl+L”, “Ctrl+E”, or “F8″.

      • Connla Caoinbhriathrach

        Yeah, Firefox for example did away with Alt+D some time ago, though Chrome and IE still have it. At any rate, whether it ultimately stays or goes, it’d probably be best if it weren’t like it is in this build, i.e., present but only half-functional!

    • Toshiyuki Saito

      That is a known issue with this build, and already fixed internally.
      Thanks for your input.

  • ws79

    Nothing new, nothing interesting… No need to use the new Opera from version 15. We need features not only bug fixes and small updates like new themes….

  • Thomas Woo

    Is there any ETA on high dpi on Windows being fixed? I’ve been using Opera 18 for forever, and Chrome/Firefox now seem to support hidpi better, if there’s no ETA for a fix, might have to go back to using another browser again :(

  • Tomáš Pavlík

    Still no Linux build. How long it would take? We waiting for a really long time now… :(

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      This would be, indeed, the moment.

      Agree this time.

  • Женя Т…

    DNA-17593 Remove ‘Move Tabs Between Windows’ feature flag
    Why?! I want to disable it!

  • dflyra

    i cannot open it! keeps crashing in fractions of a second after loading!
    is it possible to run it with all extensions disabled?

  • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

    My speed dial looks so amazing and clean now! Thank you for DNA-14655!

  • Hunk

    Please make silent update feature optional, i really want to know when or what app is downloading and installing.

  • Abe Dude

    Update to Chromium 35.0.1883.0 – outdated, chromium’s number is bigger than that.

    Silent update – stupid feature compared to the ones everybody is asking for.

    New default themes – another small stupid thing that ppl can live without.

    Encoding menu – another minor thing, ppl WANT EVERYTHING Opera 12.16 has WITH chromium engine, if you can do this ppl WILL love ya.

    Btw, it’s ridiculous to see that Opera has almost 30 MB, i wonder how longer will take till it gets above 90 MB like chromium….

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Thanks Ruarí!

    I must say the idea of silent updates without UAC worries me. If that means there’s going to be some permanent update agent running, or if some Opera files will be stored in a location not protected by UAC, then I don’t like it. Actually, I’d like even more UAC involvement: for example, to protect extensions, which despite being essentially code, are now stored in user profile, and therefore, totally unprotected against malware run by the active user.

  • esp3tek

    anything new, it seems very simillar to opera 15… i’ll wait to version 100

  • Felipe

    Honestly? The opera is causing a big disappointment. First they do not bring simple and necessary things, like the manager native favorites, syncing (yes, you are ready for testing, but do not trust my data into something beta) and now just take the best theme that had hitherto. If this keeps up, Opera will never be a browser of about one day be tried.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    So O20 is the last version we have Smooth Scrolling, but O21 has Tab Hibernation.

    Such a dilemma.

  • http://weaselzippers.us/ CaryF

    I’m still getting a horizontal black bar being painted briefly at the top of the screen while Opera launches. It’s a bit distracting. Sloppy at least. W8.1 x64 Intel I5 graphics.

    • Nekomajin42

      Same here on Win7.

    • blackcoder

      Confirmed.

      Windows 8.1

  • Javier Wilcox

    full sync?

  • Ice007

    Again a “screen-capture” error with new windows in Windows®, if taskbar is hidden. Opera takes the hole screen and taskbar doesn´t appear, if hovering over bottom of the sreen. (comparable 20 Dev)

    This time at least not a big error. If minimizing window and reopen its ok. But anyway annoying.

    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      I have this as well (on windows 8.1), and the most annoying part is I can’t seem to find a series of steps to reproduce the error. It just happens randomly, which would make it harder to fix the bug.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    I know HiDPI is still cooking, but I couldn’t leave it without giving it a try. What I’m seeing now:

    + Lots of artifacts in fonts, menu; invalid kerning in fonts. I hope it all will go when you’ve polished the feature.

    + Menu fonts look visibly larger than they should, at least on my 1280*1024 screen with 125% scaling. I guess they should be 1-2 pt smaller, to look consistent with other Windows programs.

    + Some menu items are shortened with “…”. They shouldn’t be like that, it’s ugly.

  • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

    I’m still getting this bug on speed dial folders: http://gfycat.com/BoldSecondhandFantail

    The content of the speed dial is re-sizing, leaving a white border as it resizes. I feel this should just re-size instantly, without the animation, as the animation looks pretty terrible.

    This is something to do with the CSS dynamically re-sizing to fit it’s container, but it would be nice to see if there was a way around this.

    I have tested this with multiple speed dial extensions, they all seem to exhibit this weird issue.

  • meh

    http://i.imgur.com/t73kMRx.png
    Why is this happening? I mean the blue highlight thing.. It’s useless and looks ugly.

    And again: ALL files downloaded with Opera are BLOCKED under Windows. Do something about it, it gets really annoying.

    • blackcoder

      I can confirm the blue highlight when right clicking a link. This is not exclusive to this website and sometimes it doesn’t even highlight the complete link, but only a part of it.

      • Dmitry Kirin

        Indeed, if link is [a ...] part1 [em]part2[/em] part3 [/a], the parts are highlighted separately.

    • Vux777

      same thing (blue overlay) is with images opened in new tab and right clicked when Image autosizer extension is enabled…maybe it’s not intended feature

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Hmm, i liked the link highlight.

      And i have no problems with downloaded files here.

  • Livingstone

    Finally made an account just to say that this is going nowhere fast.

    I mean, I think I’ve been patient enough, but come on – a developer build with bug fixes, something about themes, and a silent updater (which nobody wants or shouldn’t want). I can’t remember the last useful thing implemented, maybe the chrome API. People have been asking for a real bookmarks manager and you can’t even be bothered to put that rudimentary chrome manager. I don’t want to use extensions for some basic needs when it comes to browsers, like the ability to not remember my browsing history, custom default search engine and whatnot.

    To save me some time, I’m going to skip the next 7 builds – I’m not going to miss a thing. What a goddamn shame!

    • Fhury

      Amen to that. The people at Opera seem to live in their own private universe at the moment. I have tried to nudge them in the right direction regarding bookmarks, but my post was deleted form the last blog post (highest ranking btw). It is hard to stay serious or constructive in a situation like this.
      Oh well themes have been improved in this major update. Funny stuff!

      • supersur

        Censoring popular critical posts is nuts.

  • mozzer

    Oh, come on. New development version and the only extra feature is new backgroud (sic!) and encoding menu. That’s ridiculous! Have you already finished improve new features into this ‘thing’?

    You should jump with numeration to 30 – this changes are so major…

    • Michael Maier

      “For this initial developer release our primary focus has been on backend changes to ready ourselves for future improvements in the UI and elsewhere.”

  • INFINUM

    “Encoding Menu” – there is it?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      OMenu – Page – Encoding

  • Inquisitor

    Great! Themes are more important than Bookmarks! LOL

    Since a proper ‘old-fashion’ bookmarks feature is a no-go, perhaps you may want to provide the option to move the Bookmarks Bar from the top to the side of the screen, to give us some more vertical space?

  • SQL

    Looks nice! Will there be any other major improvements to this build or will we have to wait for 23, 24?

  • Inquisitor

    How can I remove that white hue on the upper part of the theme picture?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Afaik you can’t.

      • Inquisitor

        Pity! The themes look all nice on the themes page, but once you install one, they are ruined by this white gradient. There should be an option to disable it.

        • Vux777

          it’s because of the buttons (speed dial, stash, discover) to have contrasted background

          edit: same as stash slider… you can see white ellipsoid gradient around it

          • odinuv

            So what – contrast does not necessarily mean white. It looks ugly and is again a huge disappointment, when a new major version comes out I would expect something new. Not just removing old backgrounds (which were perfectly fine).
            But discussing background images, when the bookmarks are not synchronizing is a really absurd.

          • Vux777

            it is contrasted if buttons are dark ๏̯͡๏

          • Inquisitor

            “But discussing background images, when the bookmarks are not synchronizing is a really absurd.”

            I know, but the developers at Opera seem to think otherwise. They prefer themes (albeit ruined ones) over bookmarks. I’d like a proper working bookmarks feature too, that’s why Opera 12 is still my default browser.

    • Jonathan Aanesen

      Photoshop the white part away and replace it with the blue color. Then set the new photoshopped picture as your theme background.
      Edit: You don’t necessarily need Photoshop to do this.

      • Inquisitor

        You do it for me, then. And all the other themes, too. Thank you. :D

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          Do it yourself? Atleast that is the only way for you to do it. If not you just have to keep dealing with it being white up there c:

          • Inquisitor

            But why is that white gradient there in the first place? I fail to see the added value of it.

          • Vux777

            user can put any kind of theme/background
            with darker colors
            Top buttons and stash slider would be invisible or at least hard to notice in that case…that’s why white gradient around them…even if they put some algorithm to recognize base color (under buttons) and then calculate contrasted button color, it would still look lame, because that color not necessarily have to cover all the buttons… this is probably the best solution… default dark button color with white gradient and any kind of background… it’s up to theme developer to think about those details

          • Inquisitor

            If those buttons have a fixed background color and a contrasting border, they would be visible on any theme.

            Besides, gradient colors are ‘out’, plain colors are ‘in':

            :D

          • Jonathan Aanesen

            You know, that is also a really good question xP Because I have no idea, I just know a way to fix it for myself… :/

      • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

        Wouldn’t that result in a white gradient appearing over the new photoshopped image as well? The gradient is not part of the image, it’s something Opera does.

        • Vux777

          I wonder the same…
          Not sure is Jonathan just sarcastic or for real ツ

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          Indeed it is, noticed now, thank you. Then I guess the answer is that you can’t remove it now, but I think it’s a high possibility it will be removed/added a option for it in the future :)

          • L33t4opera

            Hi Jonathan, it’s precisely the “.wallpaper-shader” (css div class). It would be really nice, if the Developers could implement an option to disable/enable this, somewhere within the themes settings.

  • Ice007

    Again the question: Is this “Aura thing” a new HWA, replacing the old one or an additional?
    And if additional is it be turned off by disabling HWA in the settings?

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Aura is a google product, so maybe you’d get a more straight answer looking in Chrome forums.

    • L33t4opera

      Gosh, Ice007, I thought, that you’re a guy, not a lady ;-)
      Maybe it’s because of your personal aura today? :P

      • Ice007

        Argh… you caught me! ^^

    • kabforks
      • Ice007

        Thanks, I know this link, but it is not an answer to my question:
        “Is this “Aura thing” a new HWA, replacing the old one or an additional?”
        And btw: I´m an Opera user! So I can expect a response from “my” developers and not the “Chromium Consortium”.

  • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

    Is there a chance for Desktop Notifications?

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    I would thank Opera Software if one day they bring back the status bar, with all the functionality attached to it (zooming, search in page, sync on/off, Off Road (Turbo) on/off), I use Opera since 2008 and that was a major setback for me. Also the RSS icon the address bar I loved that.

    The dropdown arrow in the address bar was good too, and very useful.

    I understand those features were closely linked to Presto, that’s the reason they take so long to develop again, if ever do.

    I will keep my fingers crossed.

  • Sidney Moraes

    Opera 20 is smoother than Opera 22, I hope it will be better!

  • Інна Володимирівна

    Why Opera is not completely copied to the website address when copying from the address bar?!! It really pulls and hinders!! For example the same Skype without “http://” Skype does active links!!!!!

    • marwerno

      Agree: http(s):// needs to be copied and I also would prefer to have it displayed! (I was able to switch this behaviour on and off in the good old Opera 12…)

  • theomni

    I’m concerned about the silent update. Is this just a developer feature or is it something that will make it into the main Opera? I recall several times during Opera’s development that an update to Opera broke something. Something big. It was eventually fixed, but the fact is that something was broken in the most up to date version.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Not sure but i guess that silent update is a step into “incremental ” updates.

  • _artem_

    any plans for notification popups? so stuff like pushbullet and it’s notification mirroring feature is usable in opera?

  • Strathos

    Hey Opera Team,

    Are there any news on Mouse Gestures customization? I don’t meant to bug you, but it’s been a while since you introduced them and the default setup isn’t for everyone. For example, there’s an overlap with the flipback/flipforward and left/right gestures so I assign a pair to next/previous tab.
    I’ve been using extension-based gestures and it slowly but surely is starting to drive me crazy. They are not as responsive, they can’t be used until the page loads and they don’t work on Opera pages and blank pages.

    Middle click on a Speed Dial folder does nothing. Do you think it could open all the items in it?

    Lastly, are there any plans on making the Stash items re-arrangeable? Otherwise I think you should disable text highlighting on it. Highlighted text looks really ugly there.

    Any answer will be really appreciated. Thanks!

  • Moris299

    HUUH! Highlights list is really veeerrry long! Why do you do not add most functionally from 12? Why you do not add Bookmark manager, stacking tabs, more personalization and functionally like in 12? Really? Next update with nothing new. There is no whatever what can do browsing more comfortable :( (sorry for my English)

    • Moris299

      Update to Chromium 35.0.1883.0 – ymm…. nice
      Silent update – not need
      New default themes – it’s look very nice but it is not important now
      Encoding menu – Was not it already in the 21 version? o.O

  • PaulW

    Nothing new. Will stick with Opera 12..

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      So rich and enlightening comments, so constructive.

      • PaulW

        You ever used Opera 12?? If you you know what lots of people here are talking about. The current versions are a poor shadow of what was a great web browser but now we just get something that gets updated to another version when Chrome gets updated but the core functionality is missing. Hence I’ll stick with opera 12 or go to Firefox.. If they’d just give me back the login wand icon I’d be happy but even that’s too hard..

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          I knew Opera in 1997, first multiple-simultaneous-windows browser, but started using it in 2008, version 9.63 back then. I always liked it, but above all good things, many of them I miss, was the constant stability and compatibility issues I could never take.

          Seriously I prefer to wait whatever it takes until that good decent browser works again on a good decent stable and compatible engine.

          I will always support Opera, whatever they decide to do with this browser, except of course, ditching it.

  • gekitsu

    behind the scenes stuff is important and all nice, but by and large, i question the amount of plan and vision on this project.

    a new version number should indicate a new conceptual step compared to the previous version, even when you chose to sell the fractional digits as whole numbers now.

    are an encoding menu and a highly questionable update process (mandatory: ability to disable it) enough to warrant marking this as a new conceptual step? in the face of having “important” issues like tab behaviour and linux version, and now preparations for eventual UI improvements, thrown around as reasons why basic functionality is not implemented (still: bookmark manager. real bookmark menu. privacy. cookies. inability to drop google. all unfixed. every single one a dealbreaker), i know where i stand on the matter.

    now if you start increasing version numbers for adding a shiny new pic here and there, and increasing the chromium number, it doesn’t make you look like you have a laid-out plan where to go with the browser. honestly, by now, i’d like to hear what your goals are, just so i know whether to stick around or not. is this ever going to be not chrome-ish? is this ever going to be a browser to tinker to one’s requirements? is this ever going to be an actual browser at all? is this ever going to be not bundled with non-removable malware?

  • Leonardo Gomes

    Silent update is a step into “incremental ” updates?

    • L33t4opera

      Oh my Goodness, Leonardo, why you’re jailed in this cage? :-)

      • Leonardo Gomes

        LOL.

  • Tom Lindberg

    I’m still having issues with Opera on my high dpi screen. With previous versions I had to choose between super tiny UI (using standard settings) and enabling HiDPI Support to make everything ridiculously big instead, while completely breaking the UI so that nothing became clickable. With this update everything seems to work, but everything is still ridiculously big.

    The opera button is still messed up as well. Also the high dpi thumbnails setting only works well for the speed dials, while for the stash it’s scaled up and blurry. It seems to work well without the HiDPI Support setting enabled though, but there’s no use in that.

    Then there’s the fact that icons and such haven’t been optimized for high dpi screens yet, which I’m sure they weren’t meant to be yet either. Still, I’m looking forward to a change.

    • Marcin Mitek

      We are still wroking on HiDPI, checking various things. We are aware of some scaling issues. There is already a separate flag for high resolution thumbnails, opera://flags/#hi-resolution-thumbnails.

      • Tom Lindberg

        My point is that it doesn’t work well if both settings are enabled at the same time. I can provide screenshots if it helps.

  • Khairul Skmt

    Well done make a long list changelog supposed to be a list of fixed bugs! The joke about sidepanel browser not funny ok? We want the real ones! Firefox have a sidepanel of bookmarks! #AprilFools!

  • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

    Can I get someone to confirm something for me? Does visiting http://groups.deviantart.com/ and using ctrl+scroll to zoom less than 100% cause the search bar to be shunted down the page, or is it just me?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Confirmed. It has position:relative and seems to get positioned after the left column div, despite it’s not its sibling. Works fine in IE.

  • Chas4

    http://www.opera.com/o/welcome-to-opera

    Is that supposed to load in the dev build after update of dev build?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Got that page after the update too, was a bit surprised. After all, it’s just one of Opera features, not better or worse than others, and there is no links, e.g. “Learn more” or something…

      • L33t4opera

        Hi Dimitry, What you are looking for, a mouse? :-)

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Just WHAT!))
          Haha, it’s already changed. :)

  • HerB

    Here is a great browser: http://www.360safe.com/browser.html
    Love using it so far and also has a dual engine.

    • Alex

      Really good! Those are the features that a browser needs to have… On a note: I realized just now how painful is to navigate without a proper smooth scrolling.

      • HerB

        Yep, it works great for me and has some great features already. It has just released now for the English version. Websites load much faster as well ever since i have been using it.

        • Vux777

          but with 7-8 extensions and dozen of opened tabs, smoothness easily downgrades…while opening pages in background (or with ajax requests), current page get choppy scrolling and freezing

          I’ve noticed that in many chromiums… not so much in Opera…

          • HerB

            It has a dual engine of webkit and ie. This is not 100% chromium based browser. You have to try it in order to see the difference. I found that this one actually loads webpages faster than google chrome itself which was by far the fastest i have tested so far.

          • al_ghul

            well it may be a case in my opera, i have 12 extensions working in O22 dev, and only 1 in O20, and evaluate such poor smooth working on O22 dev, maybe I should try on clear opera…are there such differences in smoothness or CPU/ram usage?

    • DD64

      Does it support tab stacking? If not, it cannot replace Opera

      • HerB

        This browser just released for the English version. This is qihoo a Chinese company. Now they are moving really fast for the global market as well. More features will come to it but its already packed with features. You need to check it out.

  • shane

    Finally a decent omnibox implementation, and touch bug fixes.. Thanks guys. Despite the haters this is actually a decent build.

    • HerB

      Nonsense, which haters do you mean? You mean those who don’t listen to their users? Found myself a great browser which is highly customizable as well. No need for Opera anymore.

      • senna_4ever

        and what high customization options it has?

  • Michael A. Puls II

    Silent Update

    Super awesome!

    • oic

      opera is trolling us. They highlight silent update for this release, only to tell us later that its not actually in this dev release but the next one

  • Jorton

    A long standing bug–The first letter is duplicated when Chinese Pinyin is used as the input method. For example, when “www” is input using Microsoft pinyin the address bar shows “wwww”. Could you guys pay attention to this issue?

  • TimYao

    Waiting for Opera Link…

  • taneli
    • Vux777
    • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

      WFM as well.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Everything works here, including the video. W7x64 with AdBlock 2.6.25.

    • taneli

      This is what i get: http://cail.solja.net/media/sshot1.jpg
      And “copy image address” -> http://cail.solja.net/media/sshot2.jpg

      (Same with all extensions turned off, no experimental flags has been set.)

      Win8.1 x64.

      • taneli

        A-ha, just disabled all extensions again, and restarted browser, works now, started enabling extensions again one by one, and seemed to break when HTTPS anywhere was enabled. Weird that it didn’t break earlier though when i disabled them all.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Images loaded fine here.

  • http://evrenes.at/ Evren Esat Özkan

    At least make an april fools joke for us, poor linux users: “Surprise, your build is ready!”.

    • Marcin Mitek

      Half Life 3 confirmed.

  • al_ghul

    one question and request: migrating bookmarks!

    when installing new opera, and having old opera 12.16, bookmarks are imported quite smart (or through O>more tools>import bookmarks). but when you uninstall Opera 12.16 first (exporting/and/or/saving bookmarks adr files before uninstall) and try to import opera 12.16 boommarks – there is no possibility to import bookmark’s data. you have to install opera 12.16 again, or use other browsers, which can import/export – chrome, ff etc. or use some external services (maybe xmarks).

    SO i have a request – to make some REAL export/import feature in new opera – like in other browser, to import html, adr files or other browsers data. it’s basic feature of modern top browsers, i wonder why there is no such in new version! opera link could make it also, but it still cannot synchronize bookmarks.

    p.s. i saw bookmark.adr files of old opera, and new one Bookmark of new opera. they are different, old ones were far more readable, but i assume, that new ones are formated like in other chromium clones and cannot be changed. if no, there will be good, the new bookmark file to be more readable, like the old ones.

    • al_ghul

      there is a Bookmarks Meneger extension, which can import bookmarks in netscape format (HTML file) – this can be some workaround for this (i’m trying this at the moment – it seems work). there is also some command, which I haven’t checked yet:

      “launcher –presto-small-prefs-dir={ROAMING_PROFILE_DIR_OPERA12}”

      it can be (I guess) also a folder with archived opera12’s bookmark.adr file, but I don’t know if this works.

      • oic

        the issue is why do we need a work around. Why isn’t opera providing this feature themselves to allow ppl to migrate to opera more easily

        • al_ghul

          You’re absolutely right! chrome has that feature out of the box. of course, it annoys me extremely, but I am closer and closer to permamently migrate all my data from O12, and the ‘big-O20′ day for me is coming, so I try to do all I can to keep safe my >5k bookmarks;).

        • Nekomajin42

          There is a line in this build’s changelog about importing from toher browsers.

  • Vux777

    can’t log in into http://forums.opera.com/
    constantly refreshing after login
    same with latest NEXT
    worked in previous builds

    • IllusionMH

      Probably problem in your handware.
      Try to open this link and step away for a couple of meters from the computer (without wireles mouse and keyboard).
      xD

    • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

      not confirmed.

      • Vux777

        oh hell
        now I have to dig what’s wrong on my side

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Cookies not enabled for that domain?

          • Vux777

            i set my cookies like this

            and only disqus.com is allowed in exceptions

  • _NemO_

    Hi!
    Why opera://flags/#enable-smooth-scrolling is unavailable from 21 build?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Probably something related to Aura.

  • MadEddy

    I was hoping from all my heart you opera people would say:
    “Opera blink was our most elaborate april fool joke, it took us a whole year to prank you. Here is the first 12.2 build, enjoy ;)”.

    ;_;

    • Wolf-2

      If this would happen, I would start start complaining: Where the hell is colormanagment in Opera 12? Why works Joomla-Editors with Opera 12 so bad? …

      This problem are solved with Blink.

      • odinuv

        True, but they are also solved in Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer, Safari, Maxthon, …
        The Value of Opera browser was somewhere else. And it would be much helpful if someone from opera would mind uncovering their future plans about chropera.

        • Wolf-2

          Is it helpful for opera, if it is solved in FF, Chrome (not IE) but not in Opera? The value of a browser decide the user for himself (!), not for other users. If Opera 20 don’t work for you, why stay with this browser?

          And I already see, what happens if they uncover future plans (really bad idea, if you have earn money and have a competition). The whining, why it is not ready yet, will start again.

    • DD64

      Wait, Opera blink is NOT a prank?

  • Peter Henkel

    Seriously, how hard can it be to give pinned tabs their own session? I want to switch, but I refuse to cripple my browsing experience in the process.

    • Jonathan Aanesen

      Don’t know? Do you know how to code that? If you do, please go ahead and code it, send it to us so we can take a look at it and maybe add it. Or else we have programmers that are busy with other things, maybe even your request is in their to-do list. I guess you just have to wait and see.

      • Peter Henkel

        Fact: Chrome (or Chromium, whatever) has it.

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          Fact: Chrome is not Opera. Chrome is just running the same engine as Opera. The engine is called Chromium.

          • Peter Henkel

            Exactly. That behavior is there. They just need to use it.
            You know, I couldn’t care less if this function could be added via add-on. But it can’t.

          • Jonathan Aanesen

            I think you’re mixing up some stuff here. Chromium is just the engine we run it in. ALL the functions, features and behaviors we’re using we have to code ourselves. Just like Google Chrome have to code theirs. Opera and Chrome are two completely different browsers and we share none of the same coding. Just the engine.

          • Peter Henkel

            Can be. Still, the only thing that is keeping me with Firefox, are PROPER pinned tabs. Even Chrome has them. Am I really asking too much?

          • nanana1

            Not asking too much, maybe just too soon for the Opera developers.

          • Marko Koivuniemi

            We all have our pet bugs that should be fixed and features to add. I loved tab stacks and that I miss most.

          • Rod Corkin

            You could maintain pinned tabs in pre-15 Opera too! Really unless you have this function pinned tabs are virtually useless.

          • Tomáš Pavlík

            Seriously?

          • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

            Seriously, I think :(

          • Tomáš Pavlík

            we share none of the same coding

            sorry…

            ROFL

          • escruting

            So, you’re telling us that the task manager, custom search manager, download system, bookmarks bar etc, that is almost 100% the same as chrome and has the same interface, buttons, context menus, etc, is completely a coincidence and you coded it yourself?

            Excuse me but its a bit hard to believe.

          • Jonathan Aanesen

            I didn’t code any of it. And the people who did, deffiently didn’t copy it. If we copied all the code, we would be sued by Google every minute of every hour 24/7. The fact that the engine is the same makes the UI look a lot like eachother. But on the other hand they are completely different. Also the coding, and UI is two different things. The people who code stuff, doesn’t decide how it looks. Just how the function or behavior works.

          • escruting

            So, a company from Norway and a company from the USA decided to make exactly the same, with the same buttons, margins, columns, icons, etc, they decided to name it the same way, etc. (I’m talking about the task manager here, which is the most obvious).

          • zhnujm

            You should inform yourself whats included in chromium (free to use) and whats not (besides the engine)
            You may find some similarities to Chropera….

          • Jonathan Aanesen

            I’ll take a deeper look into it :)

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            So you don’t even know if the feature comes from Chrome code or from Chromium code, you think they’re the same just because they have a similar name.

          • Jonathan Aanesen

            No it’s not there!!!! We need to code it, implement it, make sure it works, make sure it doesn’t make other bugs etc… It’s deffiently not there… I don’t think you understand what a software engine is…

          • Jan Banan

            One exclamation point is OK, two is pushing it, three is crazy, and four is just bananas :)

          • Jonathan Aanesen

            I guess I am a little bananas from time to time :S

      • Leif Roar Moldskred

        Is this some kind of April’s fool joke? You’re not seriously talking to users like that, in public, on behalf of Opera?

        Look, I understand that after the first two-three hundred complaints it gets tempting to respond in kind, but when you’re acting as an employee of a professional company you can’t _do_ that.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          I really think that they took too long to start replying to some comments in the same tone.

      • Hunk

        Sure, your programmers were busy with such killer features like new defaults themes, full url and silent update. Don’t worry users can wait, can’t we?

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          If you think about it, the programmers aren’t really the ones who makes the themes :P But they are working on lots of other stuff that you will get to see in the future c:

  • pask

    Just get updated. And confused a lot.
    The tabs bar is not answer on clicks well, it doesn’t show the real tabs, have ghosts. :-((

  • taneli

    I pressed Ctrl+F on a page to search for something, and i started typing right after, pressing 1 key (L, in this case, if it matters), and it Opera switched to previous tab (the search bar was still open in the other tab, where i pressed Ctrl+F though), this happened to me somewhere in dev 20 too, then i just thought i misspressed something, but this time i’m sure i didn’t, since i saw the animation of the search bar coming down and started typing and poof, different tab.

    Can’t seem to reproduce this though.

  • taneli

    Btw. is it a Chromium feature, that when you open another tab from 1 tab, and you zoom in/out on the newly opened tab, that it resizes the “parent tab” too? That’s just hugely annoying, as someone who looks online for textures & maps, usually opening several from one tab to background to go through in a minute, and zooming them in and out a lot to see details, it always messes the zoom on the page i opened them from.
    (I noticed that the processes are linked in the task manager, so i guess this is intentional… (?)).
    Any way to get rid of it though?

    • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

      It only resizes the parent tab if the new tab is on the same site domain. That happens because zoom is treated as a per-site preference. It’s indeed inherited from Chromium (though it was a requested feature in the old forums in a topic with many “+1s”).

      I couldn’t find a way to disable this in my research.

      • taneli

        Why would anyone request something like that o.O
        Would atleast like to have an option to turn that kind of thing off… *wishfull thinking*
        Thanks though, didn’t realize it was per-domain.

      • cgebhard

        Have you tried disabling opera://flags/#site-prefs? Although that might as well affect other preferences…

      • Saskatchewan

        It was not the requested behaviour. There was a wish on the wish-list forum to be able to set a default zoom per domain, but changing the zoom in other tabs when you zoom in or out a page from the same domain is, IMO, stupid. (And is extremely annoying on sites that open pages from other domains in frames).

        • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

          It may not be perfect but the requested behavior wasn’t specified like that.

  • hykf

    Maybe someone can help me,

    One Chome extension I cannot live without is the Chrome Audio EQ: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-audio-eq/lfafdlnjaliaghpjdajmlcnnblkgcefh?hl=en

    It will not work in Opera or other Chromium based browsers.

    Is this because of codec in Chrome that is not native to Chromium?

    How can I get it to work in Opera?

    • Wraith

      The best you can do is install that extension with “Download Chrome Extension” but sadly some extension are not working in Opera, for example I wanted Chromecast extension which is only for chrome, it can be installed in Opera but it doesn´t work.

  • Bill Gates

    I can’t even open a link in new tab with mouse gesture down, such a basic gesture, not even talk about the fact of uncustomizable gestures at all!

  • Vague Rant

    I liked the old Blue Geometry theme, which was removed in this update and doesn’t seem to be featured on the Themes site. Are the old themes going to be made available anywhere?

  • IllusionMH

    Will Opera Stable, Next and Dev have different Menu icons?
    It is annoying to figure what browser is opened with hidden taskbar.

  • godan58

    …. start opera, failure, disconnection, restart, crash again, start again ….. what is it? !!

  • Vux777

    couple of thing that I’ve noticed so far…
    – flag “Autofill HTML forms even if the ‘autocomplete’ attribute is set to ‘off'” doesn’t do anything… outlook mail still doesn’t save login/pass… if there is a site that behaves differently based on that flag, can you post it?

    – video compression in Off-Road 2 is useless… I was measuring data traffic with and without it… there is no savings at all
    – if you already forcing flash with browser.js on YT, you should also force lowest quality when off-road is enabled… simple thing that “magic action for YT” extension does (when tweaked)… I’ve set it to lowest, and it’s triggered instantly when page loads, meaning, there is no waiting for YT starts to play in default quality and then after ~10% of playback switch…huge amount of data is wasted in that period….almost the whole amount what would 140/240 quality spend
    – forcing a quality (low) is much better then your video compression, that basically does nothing

  • http://byazrov.ru/ RuPhotographer

    I wish Opera team the worst of all. For not supporting Opera 12 any more, for making new Opera without all the great things there were in old Opera and that you are now making a stupid copy of literately every other browser in the world. Your new team doesn’t know a words originality and loyalty, doesn’t know how to appreciate support. You just turned your backs on people who loved your product and used it for more than ten years and now you push them, us, to other options because new Opera is a piece of creepy malformation. You will never succeed with this ugly thing you call a new Opera. You will need to remember this because you are going the worst way. The way of old lazy second-hand farts. You were original and awesome but now you look and feel like a Chinese knock-off and that is what you are – a knock-off. This forum is infected with yes-people and you probably completely lost a touch with reality but you should know. You betrayed a huge army of loyal users and you’ll never get the trust and support again. Ignoring loyal fans you betrayed will always be the fact your new users need to remember so not to get to excited and too attached to your products because you always turn your backs whenever you feel like you don’t wanna play any more. This ain’t funky business. This is ugly business. You aiming at Chrome you’ll never become but you’ve lost what you had, a small but strong army of users. Now you are bland. You might as well lose Opera name and call yourself a Noname. Because you have no individuality or face any more.

    • Marko Koivuniemi

      Maybe I am yes people because. I registered my Opera 1.3.2001 and lot of things has happened – sometimes ugly changes are later turned to be just fine. (Some radical UI changes during Presto-times first annoyed me until I realised reason for those changes). There are lot of things I miss from Presto but still a huge steps has been made after first versions of new Opera. But still “betrayal” seems quite harsh – it still just a browser. (OK before it was also email and usenet client but still ;-) I’ve seen enought improvement to keep me here: my main browser at home and at work is Developer or Next -version both Windows and OS X. Site compatibility and speed compared to Presto is at good level and hopefully Linux-build will follow.

      • Vux777

        my thoughts exactly…I miss old philosophy and design, but that doesn’t necessarily means that new way (and things that will come) is wrong…
        so far, this is a fastest chromium, with couple of additional features, and couple of basics that is missing… everyone should weight what’s important for them and choose their browser based on that
        the major thing that I miss is sidebar notes… everything else is bearable

        • http://byazrov.ru/ RuPhotographer

          sidebar(!), rss, simple context search menu, spell check dictionaries bundles so you don’t need to switch languages and tons of other simple things that were ruthlessly killed by new Opera team. This is unforgivable…

      • Leif Roar Moldskred

        Yes, it’s silly to talk about “betrayal” — Opera is a business and we’re not even customers, so it’s not like Opera has any moral obligation to fulfill our particular desires.

        I’ve also been a long-time user of Opera, since late 90ties or very early 2000, and yes, there were ups and downs along the way. Struggling with the poor Flash support on Linux (never quite figured out how much of that was Adobe’s fault and how much Opera’s), functionality I used being cut away (remember single-key navigation inside a web-page? Considering the changes in how web-pages were written, I understand why it was removed, but man was it frustrating at first), Linux builds being down-prioritized and the usual quirks, weirdnesses and broken web-pages.

        Still, even when Opera failed to scratch my particular itch, I always felt that I was at least in the target audience. Opera felt like the pickup-truck of browsers. There were some reasonable attempts at making it comfortable and easy to use for casual users, but the fundamental design philosophy seemed to be “Functionality and clever solutions for people who work.”

        That seems to have been lost. Right now, I don’t know _what_ Opera’s vision for their browser is or where they intend to take it (and I’m not altogether sure that _Opera_ knows either). All I know is that it doesn’t feel like I’m in their target audience any more, and after one and a half decade of Opera being “my” browser, I must admit I’m feeling rather disappointed.

        • http://byazrov.ru/ RuPhotographer

          You described exactly what I feel and what I was. Today I transferred to Chrome. I didn’t want to but Opera team left me no choice. And I believe we are the customers. Because Opera sells us to advertisers and that the business of browsers. So my feeling of being used and betrayed is correct.

      • al_ghul

        well, trying using other browsers can make really difference in looking at today opera features…especially FF/maxthon. i’ve tried and i see this clear now…and that’s sad://

      • http://byazrov.ru/ RuPhotographer

        Just a browsers that used to make all my internet living simple and enjoyable. Of course I am angry. I was angry. Not any more. I moved on to Chrome. It’s difficult but I will have to get used to it. Opera didn’t lose much – just a loyal fan, not more. I was also with Opera since ~2001 and I remember paying for it as well. But now I am with Chrome. New browser story begins. Rest in peace, Opera.

    • al_ghul

      well, I cannot agree with that ‘chinese knock-off. look at maxthon – even FF aped in its beta australis maxthon’s intuitive menu…they are still making progress and want to acquire new users…even now.

      • http://byazrov.ru/ RuPhotographer

        Thank you! Though I really shouldn’t blame Opera. I was thinking all day and after 12 years (or more. I paid 25 bucks for one of my first experiences with the browser) of being an absolutely loyal fan of Opera I decided to move on. I transferred everything to Chrome and now Opera is not a problem any more.

        • al_ghul

          thanks! well, I’ve also been, and I’m still, a opera loyal fan from the beginning, with ad-bar version. i’m not happy with new opera idea/development, but I want to give it chance, even small, although I’m testing other alternatives and try to change my taste/habits in web browser look&feel, priorities etc. habits (e.g. using only opera) sometimes can effectively blind common sense and rational arguments in choosing alternatives.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      I wish people like you the same for not knowing things after almost a year of official explanations and for keeping stupid hopes for so long, for not being able to change and in general for all the idiotic delusional conjectures and nonsense.

      • http://byazrov.ru/ RuPhotographer

        Be well, brother! You need help. And don’t blame yourself. Only because your parents didn’t love you doesn’t mean you are a complete biological waste. Get well soon.

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          Thank you, at least I don’t look like a pedophile.

  • Petar Pavlov

    I have serious issue with 22.0.1457.0.
    On start crashes and restarts after several restarts dies. Seems to be related to sync. Starting from page other than speed dial helps.

    Environment is Win 7 Ent, Intel Core 2, 4 Gb RAM.

  • ColinB1

    Is it my imagination or have the search engine abbreviations for google and google groups been changed – any reason why?

  • Chewster

    Multiple crashes with speed dial page open. When I open a speed dial folder (if it hasn’t been used for a while) it looks like Opera starts up a session for each dial – sessions can be seen in task manager. Then the browser crashes, when it restarts the page thumbnails are updated. I have also seen random crashes with just speed dial page left open. Win XP SP3 32bit, Intel Core2 Duo with 4GB RAM

    Although I have noticed RAM usage is better with this build – is this something Opera has played with or is it just down to the core engine update? Either way it’s appreciated as I gave up using the older ones for a while as it was getting near 1Gig of RAM for my usual browsing habits, I have been using Maxthon for a bit which is much lighter (but doesn’t render as fast) using less than half the memory of Opera. This build is much improved in that fashion :)

  • Kurt Zon

    For all the moaners:

    • Leif Roar Moldskred

      Possibly — but at the moment I’m unsure what there is to base such an assumption on.

    • al_ghul

      yeah…other browsers…recently I’ve tried new FF, and the huge amount of extensions with a lot of really useful detailed options are quite interesting…I’ve always deny to use it, but now I have to give it also a chance testing it. IMO it has 2 main advantages: it’s popular – so it gives quite good today’s web page’s consistency and compatibility, and – the second – really great modification possibility which resembles that one of old opera, which is seen so clear when comparing FF with today chromium opera and chrome itself. I saw, that recently beta australis FF has even aped clear and intuitive menu from Maxthon, and modified gui which resembles the chromium one.

      • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

        You should try FF29 with the all-in-one sidebar + speed dial extensions. They make it feel very close to classic opera. The only issue is that feed handling in firefox is terrible. I just don’t get it. That’s why I’m still using this version of opera with the RSS extensions.

        • al_ghul

          i’ve tried it already. real interesting about this sidebar…

      • Wraith

        The new firefox is clean and fast but no as fast like Opera or Chrome in fact I don´t know why but when I use Firefox (28 or 29beta) I still feel that Opera is more smooth when you move through a Web site, and even if you install smooth scrolling extension in Firefox still it doesn´t make it feel the same as Opera.
        There are Speed dial extension in Firefox some better than other but if you have a lot of extension FF slow down.
        Right now I´m like “in the middle of the two”.

        • al_ghul

          i agree of course, ff is not that fast, but when it read all page – the scrolling is more fluent and comfortable comparing to chrome/opera, especially pages with videos, so i don’t agree with You. well I haven’t checked how ff works with lot of extensions yet, but of course too much extensions can ruin fastness of each product…what I’m saying, ff is not that fast, but presence of other good features can make it good or better alternative for a web browser, especially when fastness is not a main goal, the differences in browsing fastness is really quite small. and the memory usage of ff, cpu usage, comparing to opera/chrome can also be quite good argument for ff.

          • Wraith

            Well I didn´t really know if FF is smoother or not (thats what I feel), maybe everybody have a different perpection but you are right about the lower memory and cpu usage.

          • al_ghul

            well, I’ve tried it recently with video streaming, on e.g. justin.tv – there are quite big differences with cpu-usage in chromium opera and ff – in ff still below 50%, in opera – quite high – about 80-90%! i don’t mind memory usage. i’m using U7300 intel core 2 duo low mobile 2core cpu and 4GB ram/win7 pro, so such things like multimedia can use quite big amount of cpu/ram, and I see it quite obvious that in that matter ff wins…during scrolling multimedia sites it also seems to do it evidently smoother.

          • al_ghul

            some peacekeeper results – one tab, no other browsers and apps running:

            Opera 20: 1458
            Chrome 33: 1398
            Maxthon 4.3.2: 1397
            Firefox 28: 1039
            Internet Explorer 11: 860

  • nanana1

    Opera Stable 20 Build 91 is now available for download and update !

  • Chas4

    Opera 12.16 has an option to disable UI animations, please add it to teh Opera blink based browsers (I disable UI animation to avoid the hangs when an animation gets stuck and slows down the app)

  • NiceSuperName

    Dear somebody from developers!
    Can you just say something about your plans for real bookmarks and the opera link? Just get us know, will this or not, please.
    Thank you.

    • bruce lawson

      Link is available in flags (search for “sync”), and is being extended at the moment.

  • SQL

    So, are you ever going to give out the Presto source code? You’ve said that Presto is still used in some of your products, are you planning to move away from Presto in those particular products? Or is this another taboo like Linux?

    • bruce lawson

      Opera mini uses Presto, and so do many TV installs. While products are still using Presto, we don’t plan to open-source it.

      • sdfffffvf

        And after?

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      They never promissed such thing, and certainly they’re not obliged to.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I think that Presto code will never be released as open source. At least not in the next years i would say.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Hey MS just opensourced MS-DOS 2.0. Keep your fingers crossed!!

        Hahahahaha!!

  • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

    Will you guys create Opera Mobile Classic and Opera Mini on WP?

  • Rik Markus

    Where is Opera 64-bit ???
    When ???

    • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

      Only Opera (Presto) have 64-bit installer.

    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      I don’t think there exists a 64-bit chrome engine to work with, I think it’s still experimental at the moment.

  • Michael Maier

    I’ve a problem with live stream on this site:
    http://www.deutschlandradio.de

    It works with Opera 21 Next.

  • guest6768

    zzzz….ZZZ….zzz…wha? … … PATHETIC once more….zzzzZZZZZZZZZZ

  • Steve Hayes
    • Chas4

      Have you tried with a stable version of Opera? Opera Developer is a alpha (test version)

      • Steve Hayes

        yes works fine with stable Opera.

  • Kirilo

    When do you planing to fix mouse gestures?
    They lucks some features since Opera 12.
    For example – i can’t open a link in new tab using gesture “down” on that link, instead i must do two mouse clicks to use contest menu to do what i want.

  • Damon Anderson

    Still no Linux. Still no OperaLink. Still saying NOOOOOO!!!!

  • escruting

    With this build it always freezes the first time i open Opera after i start my computer. If i close it and restart it loads okay.

    • escruting

      With Opera Next 21 i mean

      • Wolf-2

        Seems to be fixed with Dev 22 (at least on my PC).

  • x a

    Thankfully Marcin Mitek revealed, that Opera consults the environment variable OPERA_AUTOUPDATE_DISABLED, which lets you prohibit automatic updates.

    I humbly request a similar possibility to specify the renderer-process-limit globally. According to my experience, the default just is way too high for many weaker machines.

    (A better approach would probably be a simple global and version independent .conf/.ini file in the folder, where launcher resides.)

    • Vux777

      what is default? 42?

      • x a

        I understand, it depends on the memory available?

        • Vux777

          I know…I have 5gigs (+1gb for opera ramdisk) and if I open dev and stable, after a while Windows warning me about low memory

  • vlado

    there is problem rendering some sites that persists back from developer 21, where some of the sites (arstechnica.com; extremetech.com to name a few) are rendered full screen i.e. zoomed.

    • Vux777

      did you enabled viewport tag in flags? it will zoom page based on your browser resolution/width

      #enable-viewport-meta

  • Kevin Thompson

    Bring back full mouse gesture feature parity (gestures on links!), please.

  • wuqi

    Seems the Opera Mobile Team works better…

  • Паша

    Where is bookmarks manager/search?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Use the built-in bookmarks bar (Settings / Show boorkmarks bar (Отображать панель закладок)) or extensions like Tidy Bookmarks, Neater Bookmarks.

      For search, use the Chrome extension Bookmark Search, it shows suggestions as you type something like bm searchtext.

      • al_ghul

        vBookmarks – a neater bookmarks modification also has search bar.

      • Паша

        Thanks for your responce, but those extensions are… uncomfortable. I want bookmarks as they were in opera 12, that’s why I still use Opera 12.

        • Alex Bookovich

          +1
          Have over 500 bookmarks, just can`t without them…

  • Sky

    Why from opera Dev 19.x I have “An error occurred while checking for updates”?
    in opera_autoupdate.log:
    [13940:12444:0403/123722:564354286:WARNING:ipc_channel_win.cc(264)] Unable to create pipe “\.pipechrome.oauc_pipe/C:/Users/*/AppData/Roaming/Opera Software/Opera Developer” in client mode. Error :0
    [13940:12444:0403/123722:564354957:ERROR:networkimpl.cc(210)] [AU] Send Request status: 35
    [13940:12444:0403/123722:564354957:ERROR:networkimpl.cc(341)] [AU] Request sending failed. HTTP return code: 0
    [13940:12444:0403/123726:564358857:ERROR:networkimpl.cc(210)] [AU] Send Request status: 35
    [13940:12444:0403/123726:564358857:ERROR:networkimpl.cc(341)] [AU] Request sending failed. HTTP return code: 0
    [13940:12444:0403/123729:564361306:ERROR:networkimpl.cc(210)] [AU] Send Request status: 35
    [13940:12444:0403/123729:564361306:ERROR:networkimpl.cc(341)] [AU] Request sending failed. HTTP return code: 0

    • Sky

      Don’t pay attention, I’ve found that it was fault of my antivirus.

  • Leonardo Gomes

    New build 22.0.1460.0/ available.

    • Vux777

      what’s patch for? ๏̯͡๏

    • Emil Huber

      Silent update worked fine for me.
      Bug: Extensions page is empty…

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Oh shit, yes, confirmed. The extensions page is empty. That means, I can not write here with Opera, because I can not switch any extension off (“rel link pager”).

  • John Barnett

    Hi Just installed Opera Developer 22.0 and all my extensions do not show up in the extension section ! they show on the toolbar though. How do I get them to show again in the Extension section of opera.

    • al_ghul

      read the last opera developer 22 post! it’s known bug and You probably have new version 22.0.1460.0 silently updated;P. try to check Your version in Omenu>Opera information

  • Alex Bookovich

    Using Opera for 10 years.
    Now on Opera 12….
    And i just can`t understand one thing.
    Why you just can`t make that BOOKMARK OLD OPERA LIKE PANEL??
    I am convinced that 50% of old Opera users are waiting for this!
    Sitting, watching on you, trying to unferstand, trying to be patient, they forced to use outdated product – Opera 12.
    Why? Why? Why is it so difficult?

    • Ovidiu Richard Huza

      I agree, here in Ro we say: if two people say you’re drunk, go to bed. So why they don’t care about a lot of cryings about old good features ? like Bookmark menu ?

  • Adrian

    The manage extensions feature does not work.
    It does not show any extensions, enabled or disabled.

    • Vux777

      it is a known issue for 22.0.1460.0
      your opera dev probably silently updated to latest build

  • OmaMitDerBockwurst

    Unfortunately, the extensions aren’t shown in Opera Developer 22. I hope you’ll fix it soon. :)

  • Jademarisa

    Does still make sense to ask for a Classic Menu, an optional on at least? An option to get rid of the O button? Real Opera skins, not Chrome’s? Still loving Opera 12.16. Do you really appreciate feedback as you say? If that was true, some of these features would have been implemented since Opera 18 at least.

    • al_ghul

      IMO it’s not make sense, although I agree with You somehow – as a option for traditional users – but – as obvious – low priority. why? there is always to less area of site content, especially on 13″ and smaller screens) – look at top browsers – all have such one-button main menu. browser is mainly BROWSING content, and I catch myself working all day with site contents with some horizontal bar all the time covering quite big percent of my screen. and it make anyone wonder WHY? so why one-button menu.

      • Alloytoo

        Frankly on with 19′ monitors I can afford the screen space for a nice functional menu.

        Interestingly enough how does the real estate argument work in the the downloads tab. It used to be a functional single line. Now it’s an outright abuse of screen space.

  • ds3f6np

    “We’re working to improve synchronization” ….
    It’s not funny any more

  • NIBB

    Ah no, please no. I will have to stop using Opera if you don´t give users a choice to manually updating. Its not just for privacy reasons and control, but technical reasons as well. Some users CAN´T use auto update features. One example is those running in sanboxes, need to update the browser manually out of the sanbox, if you do it inside (in case you even can) it will cause a huge mess to the point it will not work at all.

    So no Opera, please give us a choice to turn this off, companies will not even allow something like this in their systems. If not for this reasons, (reason why some people still use IE exactly for this, manual updates) at least do it for users control and choice. Let me tell Opera when it can update or not. Don´t be just one more browser, be THE browser which gives users options and customization to fit their usage needs. I would not even mind paying for Opera if you give us a paid version with this features.

    If you ship this as a default setting because of security reasons I can totally understand this. 90% of more of users will benefit from it, but someone that actually does manual updates is savvy enough to be aware when security updates come and he needs to update. Opera was always about choice, don´t pull the grand Google on us and tell us what you think is better for us. Writing data to our drives without users consent can actually be considered a security risk. Just give us the choice to turn it off or update manual and just be notified.

    Another big reasons is data. If you are on the go and you are paying an expensive connection, something like this can cost you money since you pay for data send in 3G/4G networks or roaming or just on the go.

  • Win98

    Opera Developer 22 don’t works on Windows XP

    • Dave-H

      Yes it does, I’m using 22.0.1471.5 on XP SP3 absolutely fine!
      :-)

      • Win98

        Not working when i install i have error.

        • Dave-H

          I assume you have SP3 installed on XP.
          What error are you actually seeing?
          :-)

  • Guest

    Yes it does, I’m using it on XP SP3 absolutely fine!
    :-)

  • urbanman2004

    Thanks for update 12.17… I like the Presto version which I’ve been a devoted user since 2004, but now it’s becoming obsolete since the developers only focus on the Blink versions (Opera 20/Next). I try so hard to adapt to the the Blink versions, and try to be understanding that they are made completely from scratch, and based on another engine, but it sucks. The only usable feature available from the Presto version is the bookmark toolbar, but yet there still isn’t a bookmark saving feature. I don’t want to lose confidence in Opera, and ditch it for another mainstream browser so please fix this issue please! I guess I should be happy with what little features are available but I would be lying to myself. On another note: why does Opera’s Blink version use up so much memory. Fix that as well. Thanks

  • sdfffffvf

    “Thanks again for your testing and feedback, which is (as always) greatly appreciated!”

    No. It is not appreciated. It was in good old Opera Presto times.

  • Heckren

    What is opera’s plan for working with dozens of tabs ? The main feature holding me to firefox are vertical tabs. As a developer, when I have problem I’ll open a tab and search questions, and keep this tabs open for future reference, I can easily have 100 tabs open after one hour. Opera would be only browser that natively supports native work with many tabs.

    Vertical tabs, please, just like opera mail organizes mails.. on the side.. where is space.. .thanks

  • Syn

    I wondered how my Opera had f*cked up overnight without me allowing for anything and now this so called disgusting silent update explains everything. Such an act is like a rape on my machine, it is a clear invasion of my privacy (since I do not allow any automatic updates generally, and even my firewall is on interactive mode, asking me each time any program wants to connect to the internet, which obviously you cannot do with an internet browser).

    Such a silent update also makes one suspicious, whether they have included some backdoors, etc., to serve the NSA better (besides their coop with Google already) and got paid for such evil acts and this is why they did the update “silently”, ie. secretly and without us being able to stop is, so now EVERYONE is a target & a victim. Btw, they have deleted several of my comments before, about my complaints regarding the new f*cked up version of Opera 20, and I wonder if and for how long this one will show up.

  • Indian_Art

    Y U no love Linux??? :( :(

  • Indian_Art

    @Ruarí Ødegaard
    As team lead for Linux desktop browsers my question to you is why is Opera for Linux being neglected, the last version I think was 12.16. Why have you forsaken Linux????? Why????

    Since you are the team lead for Linux desktop browsers should you not take some of the blame???? :(

  • Mona Ali
  • Rashid Sarwar

    Need Opera 22 or 24 for Centos linux asap, thank you

  • surearrow

    Forced updates upon its users. Is Opera turning into another Google Chrome? Please do not do this, I just left that horrid Gestapo interrogation.

  • Farid

    Please add the smooth scrolling feature since it’s one of the reasons I used to like opera