Opera Next advances to 24!

In between stocking up on Vitamin D, thanks to the glorious summer weather in Europe, we’ve been busy stabilizing Opera 24 in the Developer channel; today, it moves into the Next stream, with some cool, new features.

Tab preview

Now, you can get a sneak peek of the content in tabs that aren’t currently active. Just hover one of the tabs to reveal a nice preview on your screen. If the website is refreshing itself in the background or has some sort of dynamically changing content, the preview will display the most recent snapshot of it.

o24_tab_peek

We’ve decided to disable this feature for HiDPI screens on Windows and Retina displays on Mac OS X. We weren’t happy with the performance and smoothness of animations that accompany the tab preview. However, if you want to turn this on you can toggle the flag #enable-tab-preview-in-hidpi-mode on our opera://flags/ page.

HiDPI on Windows

Given the increasing number of Windows devices with very dense displays, we’ve provided you with a sharp-looking UI for this platform, looking as good and crisp as Opera on Mac OS X, which has supported Retina displays from the beginning. Opera now reacts to the DPI settings in your Windows OS, to serve you gorgeous graphics instead of just scaling them up.

Darker chrome color for private mode

We wanted to make private windows easier to distinguish from normal ones, so we came up with a small but handy improvement, making the entire private window just a little bit darker than the normal one.

o24_private

Where is Linux?

Our Opera for Linux build is undergoing a stabilization period, just as with each new feature/improvement/bigger change. When it’s ready to advance to stable status, it will be available alongside the Windows and Mac builds. Development of Opera for Linux continues on the Developer stream.

Please be sure to leave us a comment saying what you think about these latest changes. :)

Downloads:
Opera Next for Windows
Opera Next for Mac

or download offline installer for Windows here:
Opera Next for Windows (installer)

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  • ECLiPSE

    Great, I was waiting for this!
    Any comment on the mandatory sitecheck issue?

    • KN

      +1

      So weird Opera would REMOVE the option to disable it as it is easily disabled in Chromium through settings. Also easily disabled in FF and IE through simple settings option. So this was a decision to not allow users a choice of privacy.

      I suppose one could just add a simple “127.0.0.1 sitecheck2.opera.com
      ” line to your host file to block it, but that is ridiculous to have to resort to. Only a small percentage of us reading this blog will even know this default behavior is being done in Opera, but doesn’t make it ok. I found out about it on accident (and was upset) while working on my router one night.

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Oh, this time you were faster than all your fans. :-) Just downloading.

  • zakius

    where are configurable gestures
    we got newsfeed in extension, so you need ONLY to add gestures config to move me back, but in near future native news reader is must be anyway

    • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

      They won’t bring back configurable gestures.

      • zakius

        well, as long as default set is useable I don’t care
        but this one opens new tab every time I want to close one and lacks flips to go top/bottom

        I know they said it was too geeky or something… but as underground chrome clone they have no chances to survive anyway

        use blink but let opera be The Opera, is that really that hard?

  • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

    -Its a long time since the launch of Chromium based Opera but still no way to quickly manage settings/exceptions for Images/JavaScript etc settings

    -Default speed-dial images looks bad between Coast-like speed-dials.

    -For URLs like http://www.abc_example_url.com, Coast-like speed-dial image shows “W”, isn’t it supposed to show “A” (which is first letter of real name of website)?

    • Marcin Mitek

      Coast-like speed dials are disabled here, they will be a part of further improvements that will be available on Developer channel in the future. Existence of a flag doesn’t mean that we are developing feature related to it in this stream.

      • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

        I know that cost-like speed dials have been disabled in recent builds for further improvements, and that is a good thing, i just thought i should bring these things into your notice. ;)

  • Me

    Hi, can you add function to block caching Opera on HDD? Opera 24.0.1558.21 hasgot problem with this. Often tabs freezes.

    • http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

      We should rather make it not to freeze. Anything more specific to help us figure it out?

      • Me

        When I open few tabs (one start I’ve got about 10), few minutes later tabs are freeze.
        Windows 8.1U1. On one tab online radio is playing (flash). Opera all the time read/write to disk. What you need more?

      • ahoj1234

        I’m experiencing this too. opened tabs consume 0,1MB of disk memory and active/opened tab consume the rest of the memory (mostly about 1,4MB).
        Whole Opera takes 100% of disk space and loading other tabs takes forever. Most of time Opera freeze etc.
        Hard to tell you what’s wrong.
        (W8.1, USB install, created a few dev build ago what did not solve the problem).

        PS: it takes 5-15 seconds (when Opera is opened and used for a few hours) to make a wanted tab to be active (speaking about elements/”clickable” content, the switch between tab is mostly not lagy).

    • MuscleSpark

      This is the reason I started using Opera over Chrome. Sad to see Opera 24 has the same issue.

    • littledoremi

      I also face the same issue with freezing. And yes, it happens with Chrome as well and I get 100% disk reads when that happens.

  • Alexander

    Where’s H.264 support?

    • rrzepecki

      Soon.

      • Ste

        It was in dev build and now it disappeared?

        • rrzepecki

          That’s right, because it’s in developer steam only at the moment.

          • Ste

            Strange. I Was thinking, that sth is in dev, then goes to next, and then to stable.

          • rrzepecki

            it does, once it’s fully developed, tested etc.

          • bruce lawson

            dev is where we try things out. if they’re not ready for primetime (bugs/ stability/ performance/ usability/ aesthetics, whatever) they’re removed from the Next builds, which are feature-complete albeit still buggy.

          • SQL

            You should tell us what features are getting in Next stage and what are staying in Dev. Currently this is really awkward since we have to check ourselves that things are actually here in Next or not.
            (I already told my friends that O23 will have H.264 video support, guess I lied then.)

          • Ste

            Yes, I understand that, but h.264 works fine in dev :)

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Pffffffff…

  • Anton Chelnokov

    where linux version of “opera next 24″?
    i think it would be published?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Please read the post, specially the “Where is Linux?” part.

      • Anton Chelnokov

        не могу по английски спосить
        почему win&mac публикуется сейчас, а не позже всей группой?

        • Magnus

          In english mate, this blog is clearly written in English, also the comments, stop with your russian bullshit or use translator.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            You’re right about English in here, but watch your tone please ;)

    • rrzepecki

      It’s explained in the blogpost.

    • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

      Linux will be in the Developer stream for now they are polishing it up with some sparkles and other things

  • II_ARROWS

    Last night I dreamed that with Opera 25 you made something that resembled the bookmarks sidebar of Good Opera. And I was happy.

    Please, let that happen.

    • ma_t14

      Bookmarks functionality is coming and in it’s current form I like it better than any other browser bookmark manager I tried before. You need to enable it through opera:flags first. It’s still in a very early development stage but it’s immediately obvious from usage that it has a lot of potential.

      • Khairul Skmt

        when bookmarked i like it make behavior like sd bookmarked it. captured a default logo on that website…. because some bugs when choosing in on that preview of website screen shot!

      • VIctor

        They are REALLY heavenly ! Они божественны !

      • II_ARROWS

        I tried thanks.
        Maybe the manager, but the list is still worse than Opera 12… how do you find it?
        In Opera 12, you can see it on the side, very easily, in fact I never hide it.
        The manager looks like a very good tool, anyway.

        • PaulW

          Agree. This is another dumbed down version of Opera . Still staying with Opera 12 as my main browser..

          • Cryio

            If you are not rocking a 4.5 GHz Haswell CPU … how is performance nowadays? Because Opera 12 does not know to utilize more than 1 CPU core …

          • II_ARROWS

            So what?
            I’m not using the browser to make physical simulations…

          • Cryio

            Those physical simulations would finish faster than loading say … TheVerge site on Opera 12.17 x64 today.

          • II_ARROWS

            I loaded The Verge recently, and I didn’t encountered any problems, and I live across the Atlantic.

          • Cryio

            Opera 12 didn’t deteriorate compared to 11.6. It just became more bloated (useful features or not) and filled with more bugs that seriously affected performance.

            Trust me, I loved Opera 12.xx as much as you do. There is no reason for me to be lying here.

        • Dovelove

          Agree, I’ll probably get FLAMED for this but in it’s present form it is SO exasperating!!
          If you have several tabs open you get ONE letter and play “WHEEL OF FORTUNE” guessing what tab it MIGHT be. It makes me switch browsers because it is so inefficient!!
          12 You could have 80 tabs open and see a full half page before you had to move it…on top of that YOU COULD SIZE the panel widthwise.
          I can’t use the easiest browser to navigate because Opera seems to have blocked it even though I PREFER the vibrant colors etc. that Opera seems to have and more detail. But they act like if you suggest or criticize something you are a troll.
          I think it all stems from wanting to go to pitogragphs and same location spot so we will be “one world”.

    • Turo Orvel

      I just started using raindrop.io which is pretty good. You can import your old bookmarks too. Works with other browsers too and you can access your bookmarks from web anywhere.

  • sbs73000

    Must admit that darker chrome color for private mode is useless when you have a dark theme on Windows : my normal and private sessions are both… black ! (My fault, I know.)

    A request for Discover : please remove feeds from yahoo.com. News that appears on it are taken from others websites that already figuring in Discover. By being saturated by yahoo.com, Discover became totally unusable.

    • http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

      Thanks, I will let know to the person, who is managing the feeds for Discover.

      • Alexander

        And please let us kill Discover completely, no need for the additional resource usage.

        • sbs73000

          Discover will be a great feature the day they’ll let us the ability to set it up by adding our own feeds, just like the good old RSS reader.

          • Khairul Skmt

            please make a customs section for customs user-interest with custom css reader!

          • Leonardo Gomes

            In this case i think that they would have to change the name of the feature.

          • Cryio

            Making it like a RSS reader sounds like a terrific idea.

          • taneli

            First time i saw “Discover” about a year ago, all i was thinking was “this NEEDS to have RSS feeds support”.
            The crap that is in it right now is meh, it would work so well as an RSS reader, i’m just wondering why on earth have they not implemented that yet.

          • P0lip

            I agree with you too. Well, if you follow at least 2-3 sites normally (I mean you are used to surf them and you had been doing it before discover was created), discover becomes useless. In my case I browse some of those sites regularly, so there is no need to use discover. And if I’d like to read other news, for example about Formula 1 or Linux, I have to use a RSS reader. I’d love to have a reader built-in in discover rather than use additional software. It would be fantastic. Anyway, good luck. Keep improving Opera to let me use it as I did before (from 9 to 12). Besides that, I’m a bit unhappy you stick to Chromium. I wished you worked together with Mozilla. Wish you all best. Greetings from Poland.

  • João Gonçalves

    Oh no… now you brought to Next stream the GUI freeze bug that has been present since the last few Developer builds.
    I was forced to use the Next stream just to avoid the Developer bug. Bow both are the same.
    I’m not happy.

    • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

      Why not use the Stable versions, and test/ play with the Next & Developer builds?

      • João Gonçalves

        Yes, I am aware of the consequences of using developer builds.
        Until this bug is solved, I will be forced to use the stable stream.

  • Vux777

    kinky …but nothing in ๏̯͡๏

    dev 25 is cooking?

    • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

      I would guess so, we will what what comes down stream in the next few days

    • Lacedaemon

      They probably have put it right there in the first place as another small update to the dev stream and after like 20 seconds someone said “what the heck… let’s put it into Next…”

      • Marcin Mitek

        You made my day, but nope :P

  • zeke

    Hello

    how can i test& compare javascript performance on Opera Stable/Next/Developer.

    i have tested and compared results of Opera Stable with FF 31 and Chrome 36 on sunspider.

    Opera’s score is slightly less than chromes but FF31 is the fastest. Also i have noticed that FF31 is very fast in heavy sites such as nytimes, guardian etc. It moves between pages effortlessly, faster than chrome + opera.

    on other sites, Opera is faster than both Chrome + FF31

    what other javascript benchmarks can I run???

    thanks in advance

    snow leopard 10.6.8 (32 bit)
    2 ghz intel core duo
    2 gb ram

    best
    zeke

  • Quest

    I’m liking the improvements for this release, Opera devs! I have some requests:

    1. Option to disable the mandatory sitechecking (preferably in “Settings -> Privacy and security” and not buried in flags) This privacy invading “feature” will always keep Opera from being my default browser.

    2. Control over our search engines! I don’t care about Google, Yahoo, Bing or Amazon, and I want to set my own default. (And no, using a shortcut every time I want to search my default is not good enough for those that use that argument; it’s not about being “too hard”, it’s about fluid design).

    3. Middle-click navigation buttons to open their action in a new tab (forward, back, reload, Start page) while maintaining the history from originating tab.

    4. Option to remove Start page button from toolbar.

    5. Option to rearrange extension icons on the toolbar.

    6. A new mouse gesture: Left -> Up to reopen the last closed tab (I think Left -> Up is best because it’s the reverse of the “Down -> Right to close tab” in both gesture and function).

    7. Zoom indication

    Thanks and keep up the good work!

    • Marcin Mitek

      Number 3. is already possible. Toggle opera://flags/#extended-toolbar-buttons-handling . As for the rest – noted :)

      • Quest

        Thanks for the info and for taking the time to respond. :)

      • Lacedaemon

        #6 Down -> Left is the opposite, also it is more convenient and more sane. (down+right you close it, down+left you “un-close” it.)

        Also apart from this,

        #8 Down -> Up is needed for cloning a tab.

        #9 Working gestures on links.

        (#10 Shift+Click on SD Folders opening in new window. :-) )
        Sorry for repeating this but I ‘d really want to hear your opinion on it ,’cause I think it is really, really helpful and it should be there since the beginning!

      • Mister

        “Option to remove Start page button from toolbar”
        I want to suggest another idea for the “start button”. This is open of the start page in a new tab instead of the current one. I think this is very important, as it is closing the current tab causes users not to use this button. I would like to open a new tab by pressing the “start button” in a new window. It would be very convenient, because the “new tab” button which looks like a “plus” icon – at the level of tabs – constantly changes its location – a large number of tabs pushes the button to the right, little is left. And the home button is always in its place, and it is more convenient to use )

    • Lacedaemon

      Down -> Left is more convenient and more sane.

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      “(And no, using a shortcut every time I want to search my default is not good enough for those that use that argument; it’s not about being “too hard”, it’s about fluid design).”

      This makes very little sense. People (like me) are giving an argument (that there is an easy way to use the search engine you need withouth compromising the browser security by allowing to change the defaults) and you try to refute that factual argument with a buzzword. “Your facts don’t matter because FLUID DESIGN” is a non-argument. You need to address the fact that doing what you want would open the door to browser hijacking, and prove that your wish is more important than that, buzzwords notwithstanding.

      • ayespy

        Having to enter a key combination or click on a dropdown to SWITCH the browser to a different search engine is a disadvantage to anyone not using an installed default. Everyone, and I mean everyone, should be able to simply enter a search term in the omnibox, and press “enter,” and have the search performed in their preferred engine. Period.

        As it happens, I’m fine with Google, and I have a DDG extension for when I want that, but there simply is no “argument” that makes searching a with non-default as simple and straightforward as searching with a default. It’s not my problem. But I’m not at all OK with criticizing people whose problem it is.

        For MANY people, an easy fix would be if Opera would reach out to DDG (since it’s becoming more popular all the time) and come to some financial arrangement with them, and then include DDG as one of the installed defaults. That would satisfy almost everyone who is complaining now.

        • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

          “It’s not my problem. But I’m not at all OK with criticizing people whose problem it is.”

          It will be your problem when your browser gets hijacked by a malicious website. Or when the backlash from repeated hijackings to less knowledgeable users brings Opera’s market share down and they must close.

          As you usually make very reasonable interventions in this forum, I was not expecting such a shortsighted reaction from you. The vas majority of people is more than happy of having Google as default, never forget that. And, though in other cases I side with the minority of “advanced” users that ask for more potent features, in this case the very vocal minority is wrong in asking for the change. Making the defaults editable would be a huge security issue and changing them to DDG would piss most people off to no end.

          • ayespy

            Like I said, “For MANY people, an easy fix would be if Opera would reach out to DDG (since it’s becoming more popular all the time) and come to some financial arrangement with them, and then include DDG as one of the installed defaults. That would satisfy almost everyone who is complaining now.”

            Opera is still a niche product. It’s still used more by advanced users (and often security/privacy-conscious users) than noobs and run-of the mill types. DDG is a security/privacy-conscious search engine, and while its market share is microscopic compared to the biggies, its market share among Opera users is not negligible. People like us drove DDG to over 400% of it prior use volume after the NSA revelations.

            For this reason, I think it would be smart for Opera to try to come to an accommodation with them, and include them among the defaults.

            Otherwise, for chrissake, figure out some sensible anti-hijacking configuration so that Opera users are not second-class citizens who, uniquely among browser consumers, are not allowed to pick the default search engine of their choice. Right?

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Why? It’s just not worth it. Just get used to typing “ddg whatever” and that’s it. It’s not a fundamental issue with your browsing experience.

            And yes, I agree that it would be good that DDG could be INCLUDED AMONG the defaults, but you previously wrote: ‘Everyone, and I mean everyone, should be able to simply enter a search term in the omnibox, and press “enter,” and have the search performed in their preferred engine. Period.’ Here you are not saying the same thing. You are saying that DDG would be THE default, the search engine that you use without any special keywords. And that would annoy most people for the very small benefit of not typing some letters for a minority. I repeat: it’s just not worth it.

          • ayespy

            Sebastian, I don’t think you understand what is or is not a fundamental issue with my browsing experience. Typing extra characters to get a search (since I do hundreds a day) would definitely be a fundamental issue.

            Thankfully, Google works fine for me. And, as I say, I have a one-click extension to open DDG for when I want that.

            And including a search engine among the defaults doesn’t make it THE default unless a user selects it. Any of the white-listed engines front-loaded with the browser may be made default.

            I never proposed to make DDG THE default engine – just that Opera could benefit from making the same sort of arrangement with them, they have made with others.

          • plague

            I absolutely agree with you. And since most other browsers allow for selecting a default search engine, I don’t see why it would be _so_ bad for Opera to do the exact same thing. Hell, hide it behind a flag-setting so only power users can get to it.

            Another solution would be to allow for extensions to place a searchbox where the extensionbuttons currently reside, next to the omnibox. In Opera 12 this was possible, and for me that would absolutely be enough to cover my needs. Having to first click on an extensionbutton to get to my preferred searchbox is just as annoying as having to write extra characters in the omnibox to search with my chosen provider.

            Also, not having the possibility to add custom searchengines, such as IMDB for example, makes using the extension the only choice.

          • Rafael Luik

            It’s not that simple. It doesn’t matter where the option is hidden in the UI. The point is the *file* where a default search engine info is stored would still be exploitable (modified by third-parties to inject a default search engine you didn’t chose). They must implement code to protect the file to solve that problem and allow setting custom search engines as default.

            Extensions can let you use other search other engines via the address field already, they just need to implement it. E.g. Disconnect Search.

            IMDB and other custom search engines can be easily added, they just can’t be set as default.

          • plague

            Having the default searchengine be Google is fine by me, so that’s not an issue for me.

            I know about the extensions like Disconnect Search, I’m using the “All in one web searcher” extension.

            I just forgot there are extensions that could add keyword-based search engines to the omnibox aswell.

            However, both those types of search extensions require you to either click on the extensionbutton to open the searchbox, or write a keyword before the search string in the addressbar/omnibox.

            For those that do not like the keyword approach, being able to place a custom searchbox next to the addressfield would solve the problem, and would not cause any more security risks than the already existing “Disconnect Search” and “All in one web searcher” extensions.

            Opera 12 was known for it’s UI-customizability. Having atleast some of that back would satisfy me, so that I can setup my browser how I want it.

            I’m sure some of will come though, so I’ll wait patiently.. ;)

          • Rafael Luik

            However, both those types of search extensions require you to either click on the extensionbutton to open the searchbox, or write a keyword before the search string in the addressbar/omnibox.

            Nope, you can just type with no keywords in the address field when using Disconnect Search.

          • plague

            Yes, but only for the default search engine, if you want to search using another search engine, you have to do the steps I described.

            Why would one want to search using a non-default search engine?

            Well, I search on IMDB and Wikipedia all the time, but I don’t want any of them be my default search engine in the address field, yet I still want them accessible as quickly and easily as possible.

            In Opera 12, it’s a non-issue, just place another inputbox next to the address field. Done. Simple, fast and just as secure as Disconnect Search or similar extensions.

            Searching on Google for the IMDB page or Wikipedia article is the same amounts of clicks as using an extension today (click address field, write search, press enter, click on correct link in Google VS click extension button, click searchfield, write search, press enter) and only one click more than using the keyword method in the addressfield (however the keyword method introduces more keys instead, and you have to remember every keyword for every searchengine), and with a decent internet connection there is pretty much no difference in time spent either.

            None of those methods cover my needs satisfactory.

            It may seem like a minor issue for some, but it’s annoying as hell and the solution is simple (allow an input box, not just a button, to be placed next to the addresfield) and just as secure as current system.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            “Typing extra characters to get a search (since I do hundreds a day) would definitely be a fundamental issue.”

            Oh, *come on*.

          • ayespy

            Your opinion is not the measure of what my experience is like. My opinion is not the measure of what anyone else’s experiences is like. Food for thought.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            And since this is so, browser makers cannot expect to be able to know what each individual experience is like. They must use some other parameter besides opinions, which are not the measure, or telepathy, which doesn’t exist. Food for thought.

          • ayespy

            Or, Hey! They could make use of user feedback! What a revolutionary idea – especially when the company has set up a blog for the express purpose of soliciting user feedback!

            There is a good deal of user feedback here that being able to set whatever search engine a user wanted as default would enhance user experience.

            Now I don’t have any particular strong feeling one way or the other about new or different search engines, since my needs in that regard are already met – but it strikes me as counter-intuitive to belittle a user for feedback on a blog which exists to obtain feedback. N’cest Pas?

            “Fluid Design” is not merely a buzzword in this case as regards user experience. It is a valid concept. People used to refer to it as “ergonomics” – the science of minimizing wasted motion and user discomfort, or of optimizing both comfort and effort-efficiency. An extra keystroke would be considered an ergonomic sin – something for which the benefit to the user must be shown to outweigh the cost to the user.

            Developers can ask themselves – Shall we trade fluid design for security? Must we? Is that the only option? Could we perhaps have both? It’s a valid question.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            (1) The devs themselves have pointed out that the people who come to this blog to interact with them are just a vocal minority. Most people might have different priorities.

            (2) I haven’t said that “fluid design” is not a valid concept when it comes to user experience. I have said it’s not an argument. It’s no more than a noun, and if you want to make an argument based on that (ESPECIALLY when trying to object to a factual argument about the risk of opening the door to browser hijacking) you need more than a noun. You need a full sentence, at least. “We should make the design more fluid because…” would be the beginning of an argument. “Fluid design” is just a buzzword, or a concept as you put it.

            (3) There are a lot of valid questions in respect to browser development. There is also a context and kind of a hierarchy, this is, there are important questions (do pages load?, do videos freeze?, does the program crash with many tabs open?) and less important questions (should DDG be included among the default search engines?). That a question is valid doesn’t mean it’s worthy of the dev’s attention at a certain point in time.

            (4) I didn’t belittle any user. I just said their argument made very little sense.

          • plague

            1) And where does those “most people” express their opinions and priorities?

            I know they get most userdata from the browser itself, that sends statistics about how the user uses the browser, but that cannot collect statistics about non-existing functionality.

            Even _if_ the users registered on this forum is considered a “vocal minority”, it’s those users who care enough to take time to express their wishes over and over again.
            Those are loyal “customers”, if you will, and it might be a good idea to listen to the feedback from those users.

            I’m not saying “implement everything that vocal minority asks for”, but atleast take the suggestions seriously and see what can be done about some of them, especially when it comes to customizability that Opera has _always_ been well known for.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Opera *was* known for its customizability when it was based on Presto. Things have changed. The company’s policies have changed. They focus on other things now. And you know what? It works for them. They have more users now than before. This alone proves that the loyal customers you are talking about are not as important overall as you think. Cut a little slack to the devs, this is their job and they really know better.

          • plague

            I know things have changed.
            I’m not trying to be hard on the devs like you seem to imply I am. I appreciate their work.
            I also know that more features and more options are coming and it’s starting to slowly show. I like that.

            But what I _don’t_ like is how some users seem to think all wishes from longtime Opera users should be disregarded completely, the “this is how it is now, deal with it” attitude.
            It’s tiring that as soon as someone suggests implementing some similar feature that Presto Opera had, someone just _have_ to come and stomp all over it. Why?
            I’m not telling them how to run their business, I’m simply making a wish, OK?

            This is a feedback forum. This is feedback. OK?
            Usage statistics cannot give feedback on non-existing functionality.

            Btw, I am a software developer aswell, it’s what I do for a living… Not that it has anything to do with the discussion at hand, except that I really don’t like it when the customers don’t express what they want or how they want it, forcing me to guess and then see how they react to the result. I much prefer having their feedback both before and after I implement something.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Oh, but that’s not my attitude. I have expressed my own wishes for old features to come back (visual tabs, for example), but here, where devs have REPEATEDLY stated that they won’t make the change until they’ve devised a way to ensure it won’t allow browser hijacking, people still complain about this in a nonsensical way, even saying that not having to type a search keyword it is FUNDAMENTAL to their browsing experience, as ayespy has said above. Of course they have a right to complain and push for the devs making the change, but I am a user too and I have the right to push for the devs to focus on more important things. It’s not like I am making people shut up. I can’t, and they won’t! ;)

            What sounded to you as a “this is how it is now, deal with it” was not a blanket assessment about any complaint. It was a response to your specific claim that the devs must “at least” take these suggestions seriously. They certainly don’t have to take all suggestions seriously. They might want to discard most of them, because they have taken a different direction now. That would not be bad. ESPECIALLY because you were advocating for them concentrating on what is said in this forum, which is not representative of the general userbase, and has zero protection against crockpost and repetitive whiners. ;)

          • plague

            Fair enough, I agree with most of that. ;)
            However, my suggestion was not to change how they do search in the omnibox. My suggestion was to allow for placing a separate, custom searchbox next to the omnibox. There are extension that have their own custom searchboxes already, but to access that searchbox, you have to click on that extensions button on the toolbar first. That extra step is what I suggest removing. Allow extensions to place an inputbox (the searchbox) directly on the toolbar, instead of just a button.
            Security-wise, it would be no different than how it is today.
            Problem solved.

            Hey who knows, they might already be planning on allowing something like that, but I suggest it anyways. ;)

          • Dovelove

            No EVEN the most hated job in USA…. politicians know only 1% of the people write them but represent 1000’s,

            HAVE you EVER thought that the increase in user base is a rusult of US few knocking our heads at the brick wall?? I doubt it, your ego wouldn’t allow it.

          • Dovelove

            See my reply

          • Dovelove

            Opera IS stubborn aren’t they since old founder left solution …why then can OTHER browsers have DDG as choice? And WHY adding another browser to the choice you have make any more insecure than those do??? You don’t seem to be worried with them because we KNOW they already have a security breach…themselves.
            A paid for browser for the few solves ALL these problems.

      • Lacedaemon

        They just need to whitelist some additional search engines like “duckduckgo” and “startpage”, that is all…

        • taneli

          Welll, that would be a start, and good for most people.
          But still, they need to make it fully user configurable.

    • Lacedaemon

      #6 Down -> Left is the opposite, also it is more convenient and more sane. (down+right you close it, down+left you “un-close” it.)

  • Rod Corkin

    So why is my current Next telling me “23.0.1522.58 – Opera is up to date” ?

    • Rodders

      Issue resolved, update has come through. Someone please remove the two guest questions above, they are mine. I deleted them and of course Discus delete does not work.. :-/

  • Rod Corkin

    Why am I getting “23.0.1522.58 – Opera is up to date”?

  • Guest

    Why am I getting “23.0.1522.58 – Opera is up to date”?

  • Rodders

    What is the nonsense text appearing top-left above each tab preview image? I thought this might have been fixed by now.

    • Marcin Mitek

      We are looking into it. It was indeed fixed, but maybe some additional fix is required.

  • Trevor Gough

    Just wondering why Asian (Chinese?) writing appears above the tab previews. It’s quite strange looking.

    • Trevor Gough

      Actually, I’m not sure if is a certain language at all … looks like jumbled symbols and characters to me.

      • Trevor Gough

        How can I get English writing there, instead? English (United States) is already my language setting.

        • Marcin Mitek

          Thanks for the report. Have you deleted or changed any default fonts in Windows UI?

          • Trevor Gough

            I don’t know how to delete or change default fonts in Windows UI … so the answer would be, “No.”

      • Trevor Gough

        Is this a problem for Windows Vista upgrades only, maybe? I just upgraded Opera Next on a different laptop that has Windows 7 instead of Windows Vista, and it does not have this problem at all.

        So again, when upgrading Opera Next on Windows Vista system, the problem I mentioned here occurs; when upgrading Opera Next on Windows 7 system, the problem I mentioned here does not occur.

        • Rodders

          I mention this problem below and indeed I use Vista

          • Trevor Gough

            Maybe Opera will send us an Opera teddy bear for deciphering this problem for them? ;)

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It should be the page title and it seems fine here.

    • Marcin Mitek

      General question to anyone experiencing this: could you check if you have a font Segoe UI Light installed on your OS of choice?

  • gorankx

    whats up with this update, now next acts as developer version, it lags and loads slowly even speed dial takes forever to load ????????

    • ayespy

      It doesn’t do this to anyone else. What’s up with your setup? What platform are you on? What extensions are you running? What flags do you have enabled?

      • gorankx

        its w7 x86, no extension no flags are messed just clean install and then after update boooM starts too lag to open pages slowly

        • ayespy

          OK. I had uninstalled Next on my W7 x86 machine (this is a machine that the MoBo went bad on – and I rebuilt it after I was back up and running again with a new Win8 X64 machine), so I re-installed Next (old profile was still there) with this version. No flags, no extensions, no advanced settings. These were never set before, and I didn’t set them now.

          It’s a 3.4 GHz dual core AMD processor with 4GB of PC3 10700 (667 MHz) RAM.

          It has onboard factory graphics – NVidia GeForce 6150 SE nForce 430.

          Next is snappy starting, running, opening speed dial or any other page,

          Only thing I can think of you might be suffering from is weak sysinternals or an incompatible graphics card – which, if you disable GPU acceleration, would fix that.

          • A. R.

            You can’t have great performance for huge tab previews with that set up :/ sorry. But it’s not like I arranged those two polls about tab usage, and look what they brought on…. Like wasn’t there anything else???

  • Pedro Coimbra

    Can I make a suggestion? reduce the size of the previews. In Opera 12 the preview was small enough not to get in the way on what we were reading, but already big enough to show what that site was.

    This time the preview is like having the real tab at 80% size and getting in the way of the current site. I mean, we might as well just click the new tab to see it, right? It just doesn’t make much sense, and seems irrelevant actually.

    Reduce their size, make them like they were on Opera 12, or make a gallery of open tabs in a horizontal line, with the tab we mouseovered more highlighed/brightened/bigger

    • Khairul Skmt

      maybe as options as power user…

      • Herr Pietrus

        Perhaps previews are a bit too big, but personally I think that those in Opera were a bit to small. :)

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      In other words, bring back visual tabs, which I miss dearly since O15. ;)

    • Footman

      Personally I like new preview. Old one was too small and useless because i know anyway what any of my opened tabs contain.

      With new one I can work with two pages at the same time: check new feeds, compare content.
      I do not need to click two times to switch back and forth between tabs. I just need to mouse over the tab and move mouse away now.

  • romath

    Don’t know if others have, but I’ve had trouble with the install of 23 Next and now 24. This time, I’m getting the message that another instance of installer is already working on this folder (23.0.1522.58). Is there anyway of overcoming this without a uninstall/reinstall, and without losing the Speed Dial and installed extensions?

  • Herr Pietrus

    With DPI set to 115% toolabrs are even bigger than i previous biulds. BTW – 23 with HiDPI enabled looks well, but I’m actually confused and don’t know wheter it works in version 23 and how it differs from it’s implementation in current next build

    • ayespy

      O24 needs to quit fake-detecting larger view settings on Windows desktop as HiDPI.

      • Marcin Mitek

        What you want is – I want to have everything bigger in my OS (125%), except my browser, because I am used to the fact, that almost nobody (except browser vendors) makes DPI aware apps on Windows.

        • Inquisitor

          “Please be sure to leave us a comment saying what you think about these latest changes.”

          Some of us did exactly that, but alas…
          Thanks for ticking us off, Mr Mitek.

          • Marcin Mitek

            I’m only pointing out that it’s not a bug. We already have a feature request in the BTS (filed by Christoph142). Relevant people are informed about this. I doubt it will be possible though.

        • Nekomajin43

          The questions is, how much work would it require to give us manual DPI selection? Let it read the OS settings by default, but put a slider to the settings to override it manually, and everyone will be happy. It is this simple.

        • ayespy

          When a software vendor researches their UI ergonomics, to then make it DPI-aware pretty much throws their research efforts down the tube. I think that’s why they don’t do it. I don’t think it’s a good idea for browser vendors to do it, either.

    • Inquisitor

      I can only agree: O23 looks fine, in O24 everything is enlarged with my Windows 7 DPI set to ‘Normal’ (125%). At least, please make the HiDPI implementation optional.

  • ayespy

    Soooooo, ennyway, when are we going to get back the default icons for bookmarks that have no favicon. Huh? Huh?

    • Marcin Mitek

      Bookmarks are going to be developed and further improved on the Developer channel.

      • ayespy

        Kewl. It is a bit odd, though, that a bug like missing default favicons made it all the way to release channel…

        • A. R.

          Well they released O15. O16, O17, O18 and O19 which were purely betas.

          They rushed to release, and now after a year, there still isn’t basic signature Opera features! What a shame! Shame on you Opera.

  • Na Nguyen

    Opera Desktop Team,
    please add option Disable Cache, and
    please add feature smooth scrolling.

    Thanks!

    • taneli

      If smooth scrolling is added, i hope it’ll be optional, after using “non-smooth” in this new Opera, it just feels faster and snappier than in say FireFox.

      • NoName

        That’s because Firefox’s(also IE and Chrome) scroll transition is bad. They are either slow or using a bad easing.

        Opera12’s scroll transition is fast and with a great easing, that makes it useful without making you wait.
        I hope that the Opera guys is changing the transition when it get into Chromium, so it matches the ones of Opera12. Or something close of it.

        You can enable the experimental version of smoothscrolling by adding –enable-smooth-scrolling to your shortcut for Opera. Currently it only does smoothing when using the keyboard (I’m using Windows).

        • Cryio

          IE smooth scrolling is bad? Man you’re smoking.

          PS: Opera 11 had great smooth scrolling. When working properly, even better looking than IE (9 through 11)

          • NoName

            I’m not talking about performance. IE is awesome in that regard!

            It’s their transition I don’t like. It has a max speed. So when I’m scrolling a lot, it’s slow.
            It has the same max-speed for a single scroll, as well as spamming the scrollwheel.

            In Opera12, the scroll speed adapt to the amount you scroll. If IE got that feature, it’s would be awesome.

      • Pedro Coimbra

        Smooth scrolling in Opera 12 was great (among so many things in that browser.. *sigh*), smooth and yet fast; well animated (I even noticed acceleration and deceleration) and yet responsive. Just like the iPhone when it appeared compared to a i.e. windows mobile

        • Cryio

          In 12? Not so much. If the website had some sort of shadow element, the CPU was too busy rendering the shadows in that site and scrolling was jerky.

          There weren’t any issues with smooth scrolling in Opera 10 or 11 though.

          v11.6 ftw.

          • NoName

            Opera 11 also didn’t stick to 60Hz as 12 does.
            So on a 120/144Hz monitor, it’s get’s even more smooth!

  • icetom

    does it support directwrite already?

  • http://abbe98.github.io/ Albin Larsson

    Love it!

    I got some issues with the bookmark flag/extension:

    If you delete Imported Bookmarks->user_root the extension breaks next time you open it(the time after that it resets), just hide user_root?

    In the search field it should be some padding between the icon the placeholder text.(.search-input {padding: 0 8px 0 22px;} made it look much better, try it) ;-)

    When you are at “My Folders” the page title is “Bookmarks: user_root” not “My Folders”.

    The buttons in the .toolbar does not change cursor on :active or :hover.

    It uses a background from Opera not the theme, I know that it’s because it’s a extension but you should consider a Theme API :-D

    Now the bookmark icon(“Mark page”) appears next to the “Bookmark page menu”, also because it’s a extension…

    Great design and UX by the way :-)

    • A. R.

      The whole user + cache folder files (profile) should be able to set into a custom location.

  • Cryio

    Darker Windows UX for InPrivate tabs? DON’T.

    Make the tab itself darker is you want.

    • A. R.

      Why should private be darker and ‘behind sun glasses’? Why to portray a picture that privacy is for some darker dubious browsing?

      Concept gone wrong.

      • Herr Pietrus

        Good question, but it’s rather common attitude to private browsing mode.

        • A. R.

          Still, privacy isn’t just porn or whatever it is to people. They should use a concept that represents privacy ‘globally’.

      • Cryio

        Opera on Presto had the absolutely best InPrivate implementation of tabs from any browser.

        Too bad that went away.

  • ammodytes

    everything is bigger now, how to turn off this???? 125% medium settings on my laptop (windows 7)

    • ammodytes

      i hate this!

      • ayespy

        I had to change my desktop to 100% and then ctrl/scrollwheel to resize my desktop icons and then “change only text size” under “personalize” desktop on Win 8 to get normalcy in Opera 24 plus a desktop I can live with.

        In Windows 7, the text size is hidden under “advanced settings” under the windows “colors” section.

        • ammodytes

          HI, thanks. But that its to complicated, i expect from Opera to solve this “feature” (bug)

  • ayespy

    Detecting 125% view size on a Windows desktop as “HiDPI” is what we fondly refer to in the business as a “BUG.”

    Are you guys planning on fixing it before promoting O24 to stable?

    • Marcin Mitek

      Drawing UI according to the DPI setting is now a bug?

      • ayespy

        When it is the only application on the machine doing that, then, yes.

        Prior versions have not done this. Other browsers do not do this (with the exception if FIrefox, which I found a royal pain in the ass for doing so). It is not expected. Needing to increase the size of the desktop UI features (and ONLY THOSE) should not penalize a user with Brobdignagian chrome elements, which cannot be reduced in size or obtrusiveness, on their browser of choice.

        • Marcin Mitek

          Nobody does DPI aware applications on Windows and that’s the problem.

          • Inquisitor

            Can’t you make the DPI link optional?

          • ayespy

            I think that fact is a feature, not a bug. It means people get a uniform experience – one that has likely been researched and tested – across screen size and platform. If everything on your system is the “right” (researched and tested) size except your desktop, and then you resize your desktop to make it comfortable, you don’t then expect all of your software to change size along with your desktop.

            As to Opera’s DPI sensitivity being “a feature, not a bug,” I’m not sure that plays well with the consuming public when your “feature” is not well-received. Something to think about.

          • Herr Pietrus

            Problem? On each windows, as I’ve been told earlier, caling works in different way. Displays with resolution higher than HD are not so popular, I’m also afraid that even not everyone use native HD res for everyday work. That’s why we must be sure that HiDPI will be always possible to disable. Because perhaps it will be useful on Win 9/10 with new ultra-HD monitor and all applications properly behaving with custom DPI settings, but now Opera’s DPI’s awareness it’s useless e.g when someone combines lower res and slight DPI tweak to make text bigger and applications still looking decently.

  • Max

    Please bring the bookmark syncronisation back!!

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      Sure

  • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

    Google Chrome 64 bit beta has been released, expecting Opera 25 with some new goodies! :D

  • Alexandre Cavaco

    Tab preview is fantastic! :)
    The darker color for private mode is also a good idea.

    • A. R.

      Is huge clunky tab previews the only thing Opera forked out of those recent two (2!) tab usage polls??

      • Alexandre Cavaco

        I really don’t know, but I like them.

        • A. R.

          Yeah well I like too, albeit

          – could be a bit smaller, actually, users should be able to set a smaller size they choose.
          – user set timing
          – ctrl + tabulator browsing through them would mimic O12 and many would be happy.

      • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

        I think you are just being unfair. It’s three (3) month since we made the polls. We always stated that Tab Preview is the *first* thing to come out of the results we collected.

        Three month: That’s two weeks researching the data, four weeks making prototypes and six weeks implementation, stabilization and bug fixing. Ask some developers near you: This is fast. We are talking about adding something to the second most complex piece of software on the planet: The Browser

  • Ste

    What about 64-bit? New chrome beta have it.

  • Ste

    https://www.youtube.com/html5 shows that it DONT support h.264, but previous dev build was, so I am confused?

    • Ste

      Heres screenshot:

      • Ste

        Hmm, somethings wrong with upload of the pix

    • Leonardo Gomes

      The flag is disabled by default on this build. Maybe they considered that it needs more work before being enabled by default.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        “By default” means, that I can enable it somewhere? Where? What is the keyword?

        • SuuperTommy

          #proprietary-media-types-playback in flags.

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Ah, marvelous!

  • iwod

    Please just add Tab overflow. The amount of people in Chrome that wanted this feature and Firefox users whom wanted the speed of Chrome but not without Tab overflow are huge!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      What is tab overflow?

      • iwod

        The default tab behavior when you have too many tab opened in Firefox.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          For the ones that don’t have Firefox, what is/would be that behaviour?

      • Vux777

        probably arrows on the end of tab bar to scroll them when is too many of them…I guess

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Hmm, something like Opera Presto’s extender? Could be interesting.

          • Rafael Luik

            Nope it’s like a tab bar that scrolls horizontally (by arrow buttons, not mouse wheel). I hate this… If you have, say, more than 7 tabs open you have to keep scrolling the tab bar to have access to the tabs. It requires too many mouse clicks in arrows and also this will keep changing the spatial location of the tabs so you don’t know where is each one – even though now you can see more from the tab’s titles it’s of no help at all.

            With the current Opera tab bar even though you can’t see much the titles when you have many tabs, you can see *all* of them at a single glance and favicons will help. It’s easier to remember their position when they don’t move…

            Opera’s tab previews is what fixes the “many tabs no titles” problem with excellence. When you remember poorly the spatial location of a tab you want to switch to or there are no favicons anymore ’cause of the number of tabs you hover the tabs moving the mouse to the sides close to where you think it was, you’re done, you find the tab you’re looking for without the need for clicking arrows endlessly.

            I’m not against options, but it’d be of no use for me.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Doesn’t sounds good for me too.
            Extender or, even better, vertical tabs would be better alternatives.

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          There are no official definitions, but the most common definitions are:

          – Tab Overflow: You limit the maximum amount of tabs to a value (say 10) and tabs above that limit will go into an “Overflow Menu” of some sort. Which tabs actually go in there (new or old) is undefined.

          – Scrolling Tabs: You again limit the visible Tabs to a value, but this time you make the Tab Bar scrollable left and right. “New” and “old” tabs just stay where they are. How you scroll is undefined (wheel, keyboard, buttons, all together…).

          There are interesting variations for both of them and I have seen very good implementations, that almost made it work (not in current browsers though, but in prototypes).

          Still, the problem with both is: They delay access to some of the tabs severely. For two main reasons:

          1. Some tabs are obviously “physically” further away in the interface and need more than one click to reach

          2. The reordering will destroy your “muscle memory”, the cache in your head that blogs.opera.com is somewhere in the upper left corner of the browser. Without caching access is slow, meaning that you as a human will have to search more to find the tab you want.

          A lot of research went into tabs and there is much more to this, but this is the short story. I agree that a way to just “see” more tabs in situation where you have tons of them is the better way to go. We are actually working on that, but it’s extremely hard to get the details right.

          You can see that with Tab Preview. We talked to many people and the initial reaction was always “wow, this is great” and it’s very useful in many situations. But sometimes it gets in the way. Even if that only happens in 10% of the situations, these negative stimuli are stronger then the usefulness you get in 30% of the situation. This is why we changed the timing a few times and gave you a few settings for yourself: To get it right. (Disclaimer: I personally find Tab Previews very useful. I use Opera Next at home and I found myself hovering a tab for 15 seconds all the time. It’s very good, but I also think we can tweak it more)

          User interfaces are very hard to get right. They have to “evolve” together with the user. It’s easy to get something 80% working within a month, but the last 20% will take you another four month. Doing it right takes time.

          • Vux777

            thank you for explanation

          • Nekomajin43

            While I see what you say and I agree with you, there are certain aspects that ease the situation. First of all, a majority of the users don’t use many tabs, so the problem does not exists for them. I can use 8-10 tabs on my 1366 pixels wide screen without any problem. That’s a lot. Second, with this new infrastructure and the increased RAM consumption, lots of the remaining users don’t open many tabs, because the system freezes.

            So there is a small percentage of users who really need some kind of solution to handle many tabs. This tab overflow can be one of them. Tab stacking can be another one. With a few options, only these two can cover many needs. (Automatic stacking was a popular request back then the Presto era.)

            My point is, you do not and should not have to solve a problem with a single solution. That’s too hard and even impossible, as you said. Give us different options, because we are smart enough to choose what is the best for us. One big problem of the current software industry is that they think all the users are dumb and they have to think of the one and only solution. (Sorry for the hard words, but that’s the truth.) Implementing more than one, but simpler and already existing solutions may even require less work than planning new solutions and evaluating prototypes.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            > First of all, a majority of the users don’t use many tabs, so the problem does not exists for them.

            That is very true and it means that it’s hard to justify spending huge amounts of effort into improving tabs ;)

            > My point is, you do not and should not have to solve a problem with a single solution. That’s too hard and even impossible, as you said. Give us different options, because we are smart enough to choose what is the best for us.

            I didn’t say it’s impossible, just very hard ;) The problem with options is the “swiss knife”: If you try to do many things, you end up not doing these things well. You can cut down a tree with the saw of your swiss knife, but there are certainly better tools for that. I am sorry to say that, but on average you don’t have smart users that spend a lot of time getting to know the software and configuring it for their needs. It’s the much safer choice to somehow limit the amount of features and do these really well and make the connections between them logical and powerful.

            To come back to the solutions you mentioned:
            > […]solution to handle many tabs. This tab overflow can be one of them. Tab stacking can be another one.

            If the problem would be now now to chop down a tree, why should we offer you the swiss knife, the axe and the chainsaw? Very likely most people will prefer the chainsaw. So we want to offer that. (More concrete to the problem: Tab Overflow, Tab Stacking and scrolling Tabs are probably poor solutions that hide the problem more then they solve it)

          • Nekomajin43

            Here is why I’m concerned about this magic solution you are seeking. As a long term Opera user (since the adware era), I saw that you can come up with great things (like Turbo, speed dial, mouse gestures, tab stacking), but you can spend a lot of time and resources to develop things that really don’t hit the spot (like Unite, stash).

            So it takes a lot of time to develop a new feature, but there is nothing to guarantee it will be good. And until you find that magic solution, we have nothing to deal with the problem. You are right, none of the discussed features really solve the problem, but they are much better than nothing. At least we would have something to ease the problem, and it would be a little less urgent for you to solve the problem.

            Yes, it would require more time in total, but implementing existing and well tested features don’t need as much time as planning and prototyping. And since tab stacking serves also another purpose, you could kill two birds with one stone.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            BTW: Tab Stacking is something completely different than Tab Overflow or Scrolling Tabs. Tab Stacking is probably perpendicular to what I said and could be used in conjunction.

    • A. R.

      Do you mean tab panorama? I think you do. Well Opera’s signature feature is stacking tabs (grouping them), so… a lot of users are waiting that feature to surface.

      I mean c’mon is Opera kidding us with those two tab polls they did? Are huge tab previews only what those polls resulted as.. I can’t believe.

      Opera is a useless browser without some kind of stacking / grouping / panorama.

      • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

        > I mean c’mon is Opera kidding us with those two tab polls they did?
        Okay, I give up telling you that Tab Preview is the first thing that we did after the surveys and there is more to come and that it takes time to do research and development:
        Yes, we are kidding you, we just did the surveys to lure you into the warm feeling we are actually trying to improve the product ;)

  • http://andreas8.wordpress.com/ Andreas

    I just want to say thank you for developing for Leenux as well. :)

  • Павел Шут

    In tab preview need to see the URL of the page.
    Also would be good to set custom delay for the preview. Or better yet choose a hotkey to hold to see the preview. Shift would be the best here.
    Thanks!

    • IllusionMH

      You should set delay in power user settings. Just enter konami code on settings page.

    • A. R.

      ctrl + alt would mimic what users have accustomed to.

    • taneli

      People would rather just quickly change the tab, say, with something like mouse-right + mouse wheel combination.
      I myself don’t see the point of the preview, i just want to go from tab to tab as fast as possible.
      If it’s about slow loading of the tab, then, maybe, sure.
      But i’m not on a tablet here so my tabs load fast enough.

  • SQL

    You said O25 will most likely come a day after O24 goes Next.. So not?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      When it was said?

    • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

      Maybe 64 bit builds need some more attention!

      • A. R.

        Indeed there should be x64 stable.

        I’m having hard time giving up 12.17 x64 but in few months a lot of sites have stopped to work completely or some parts of websites do not work on Opera, the amount of these websites is expontentially increasing.

        A new thing that started to occur a while ago is that few sites that didn’t previously crash Opera presto now does crash.

        This is hugely annoying, but tab stacking is where I draw the line, I’m not upgrading at least to the new Opera. Also x64 would be nice.

        Chrome has x64 now in beta, btw. And mentioning of Chrome, look at the horrid amount of vulnerabilities in Opera last year and this year: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Internet-Explorer-Named-the-Most-Vulnerable-Browser-in-the-First-Half-of-2014-452286-2.jpg

        Sad as Opera used to be secure.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/max1cp?feature=mhum Maxim

          That’s because Google is paying people to find them and then fix them. Chrome has by far the least vulnerabilities.

  • A. R.

    Where is tab stacking?

    You made two (2) ! polls about how people use tabs and what does Opera come up to?

    A giant preview screen of the next tab!

    Must be all so handy and everyone has computer that can show them for tabs, not to mention 50+ tabs.

    I don’t believe that the previews are kicked off from memory because that would slow down viewing the previews.

    Again, a huge disappointment. Is this only what you got from those polls?

    What about those signature Opera features? Like tab stacking?

    Shame on you.

    • escruting

      Yeah, i agree, its not a really useful feature. Its not very convenient and is not a “WOW gonna use it every day from now on”.

      I disabled it because it gets in the way and it doesnt give me anything interesting, its faster just to click and change tabs.

      • A. R.

        I like those previews albeit there is a lot to improve them. But definitely people can live with out them, until tab previews are a bit smaller, actually, users should be able to set a smaller size they choose. User set timing on appearance and ctrl + tabulator browsing through them would mimic O12 and many would be happy.

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      > You made two (2) ! polls about how people use tabs and what does Opera come up to?

      Well, what did you expect? It’s only three month since we asked you. It takes a few weeks just to go through the data and make conclusions. It takes another month to make some prototypes and test assumptions. And it takes up to half a year to completely develop most things related to tabs.

      We always stated that Tab Preview is the first Tab Improvement we are adding to Opera based on the polls.

      > Shame on you.

      Just saying: If you want to motivate somebody to work for you, this is not the way to go ;)

  • A. R.

    - Users should be able to arrange stash items. All in all stash could have better features, but needles to say not pop-up previews!

    On Sofpedia and PC Mag there was recently O20 and O23 reviews, the O20 review was terrible but O23 review a bit better. Both where on the most read of news, also most commented – and all comments where hatred about chrome and how useful features from 12.x aren’t brought back.

    Well done. Congrats Opera. Could you polish that heart icon a bit more?

    • Nekomajin43

      According to the developers, it is likely that Stash will be entirely replaced with the new bookmark manager, which has reordering functionality among others.

      • escruting

        I hope the quick one-click to save a page doesnt go away. Also the quick shortcut to the “read it later” list.

        • Nekomajin43

          I think this bookmark manager will be powerful enough do both.

        • Herr Pietrus

          I hope so! But it would be better if stash will stay with us as a fourth tab on speed dial page.

          But if they at least add second star button to save current site in “read later” folder and without using any kind of pop-up to change it’s name or miniature – it won’t be so bad.

          Sacrificing stash for well crafted bookmarks doesn’t sounds bad… but at least we need something similar inside this new coll bookmark manager.

      • Kamen Minkov

        Quick tip: opera://flags > Bookmarks

      • A. R.

        Stash is a useful feature.

        Rather extend with 4th tab, and yes, make Discover more customizable – with RSS too.

        Wasn’t the original idea that enhanced speed dial would replace bookmarks? And stash would be were users would ‘stash’ tabs that are frequently open.

        Users like to also stack always on tabs, and now with not any kind of tab bar improvement the tabs and tab bar are completely useless without stacking or some panorama feature. But why give up stash when it is such a wonderful signature feature of Opera?

        I can’t believe those huge resource demanding tab previews is all what those recent two tab usage polls brought about. Huh.

        Some people like mom, some daughter. Could you please add flag to run all tabs in 1 process? Then another process for such as flash, or make it like in Firefox – however. But there should be an option to run all tabs in one process. My Opera 12.17 x64 sometimes using up to 7GB of RAM doesn’t have any problems.

        If one doesn’t count that Opera 12.x doesn’t work on a exponentially growing list of sites anymore.

        It’s over a year since O15. What a shame result O24 is.

        Shame on you Opera.

        • A. R.

          Like really. It’s over a year since Opera 15 – in that context Opera 23 and 24 are huge disappointments.

          And what happened to those 2(!) polls about tab usage? Where is tab stacking that would in major way improve tab bar usage.

          Tab stacking is Opera’s signature features. Firefox has tab panorama.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            > And what happened to those 2(!) polls about tab usage?
            Have you seen Tab Preview? ;) It’s only three month since the surveys …

        • Nekomajin43

          Take a look at the bookmark manager (under developement), and you will see what I’m talking about.

      • Rafael Luik

        Do you have a source about Stash being replaced with the bookmarks manager?

    • Sidney Moraes

      I am asking the devs to put that since version 20 I guess.

  • http://weaselzippers.us/ CaryF

    You just don’t have any intention of fixing the black flash drawn across the top of the URL window at startup, do you?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Or maybe it’s just not top priority.

  • Vux777

    about tab preview…
    maybe an option to turn it on when is too many tabs (when X from bg tabs is gone)
    it’s kind of annoying this way…if you want them sometimes, you need to wait (delay) and if you don’t need them they just keep popping up anyway…

    • ahoj1234

      ridiculous… :D so the delay is too long (that it do not show) or too short that it’s popping up all the time? :P

      ok, just teasing. To be clear: you can set your own delay (as you may know). So try for example 10ms if you do not want to wait. Or just disable it permanently.

      The option for a sniffer for opened tabs and showing the preview based on that is not needed (at least I think).
      Mostly you are one of the “a lot of tabs opened” or “a few tabs opened” guys when simply “turn on/off” once a year/month is not a big deal…

      • Vux777

        I didn’t know that delay is started to work…but nevertheless…
        still doesn’t work…. :P delay is the same whatever you input
        yea, when I’m reading something on the page , my mouse pointer usually stays on tabs bar prepared to switch to another one, and accidentally fires tab preview… just my habit..in that case, tab preview sucks

        but if I have 20+ tabs opened, and can’t visually distinguish them (same favIcon and too narrow) I have to guess which one is that I need…in that case, tab preview would come in handy…. manually enabling it just for that is pointless… even couple of times per year

  • Darklycan51

    Opera is really cool but currently isn’t it lacking themes? (real themes like firefox’s and old opera’s) oh well…

    At least produce more anime/video game themes :( (Steins gate/Psycho-Pass please :D)

    Btw please have mouse gestures disabled since install, i was wondering why my tabs kept closing whenever i right clicked…

    ————————–

    For discover… maybe allow us to add websites/remove them? it would be pretty neat to be able to have anime/video games only for someone who doesn’t really wanna check normal news all the time

    • https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

      The settings for Discover are available with the cogwheel icon on the top right, you can choose Entertainment and/or Technology for computer games, I think, and disable the other topics.

  • Raylan Givens

    Chrome 64bit beta arrived… I expect Opera 64bit too later!

  • Keiv M. Salmon

    with this version, sometimes when i open a tab and click on a speed dial the page loads, BUT i can only see it if i am on another tab and use the new fancy preview thing.

    to see the page i have to resize the browser before i can view the page.

    is anyone else getting this problem?

    This is on another, older laptop running Vista 64

  • YemSalat

    Please come up with something better then an ugly white gradient on the top for dark opera themes.

    Wondering what I mean? Just install any dark theme for Opera, then open speed dial and let your eyes be destroyed by the ultimate ugliness that is Opera with a dark theme.

  • Marcin Mitek

    Thanks.

  • Popanz

    Will there be Opera Mail for Linux?

    • blackcoder

      I guess no, but you can simply use Opera 12.16 for Linux, which has Opera M2 integrated. Opera Mail now is just Opera 12.1x with everything not needed for M2 disabled or hidden.

      • Popanz

        I know, but I find it quite handy, when the Browserparts are hidden, if i use it only as mail client. For me the new opera isn’t an option. At the moment i still use 12.16 as browser but there are more and more sites witch doesn’t work with it anymore. So I will probably switch to FF in near future. But I still love M2 so I don’t want to switch to Thunderbird or KMail.

        • ayespy

          My O 12.17 has been converted pretty much into a pure email client thru some UI tweaks (hid the toolbars, got rid of unnecessary buttons, set it to open links in my default browser, etc. I may try this, just for grins, on my salvaged tower that I loaded a Lubuntu fork (LXLE) onto last week. Maybe it will replace ClawsMail for me.

  • Onno Willems

    I am (or perhaps was…) a vivid Opera fan and promoter, but I am sad to say I am finally jumping ship. I really, really love Opera 12.x and sticked with it, occasionally trying out Opera Next and I have read hundreds and hundreds of complaints with each new release here and agreed with many of them. Never posted here, just waited, hoping things will turn out alright. But now I lost confidence they will. Still love Opera 12.x, but it is getting banned (yes actually banned) from more and more sites now: Expedia can no longer be visited, and I just had a discussion with tech site that did not work properly (it helped, it looks reasonably okay now). That’s how much I loved Opera, I contact sites that have glitches, send them screen shots, convince coworkers and friends to use Opera, etc. But this is taking up too much if my time, and it is hard to explain to web devs that I don’t want to upgrade to “the newest Opera”.

    Next 24 is the final drop. The tab preview is rubbish: takes too long to show and when you move the mouse pointer quickly horizontally over the tabs, the chance of moving it out of the header area and having to wait again is too big. Seriously, do you do usability testing on stuff like this? The Opera 12 way (dragging the tabs down to show images as header) is just so much user friendly. And there is lots of more stuff that makes me feel they really don’t have a usability expert on their team and lost their way. Making private windows darker? Come on, you know window border colors are configurable, so this is not an option. By the way, I want private tabs, not a private window. I want full bookmark support, a drop down in the address bar (select previous visited sites without using the keyboard), a zoom indicator, full bookmark support, decent smooth scroll, etc.

    Despite the promise of a new “fast release cycle” development seems to be slower than ever. I seriously doubt the things I like/want are coming back, so unless someone can convince me otherwise, I am going to try out a few other browsers again. I know Opera doesn’t care about a single user like me jumping ship, just wanted to let them know that another one of their hard core fans/promoters is switching. Perhaps signals like this will help.

    • NoName

      I agree with a lot of what you point out.
      But the problem is, sadly, that the alternatives are not that much better.

      Firefox might be okay, if you take your time to find the right addons and configure them just right. I tried, but failed.

      Of course, depending on which feature you miss, it’s might be easier/harder for you to do.

      Right now I’m looking forward to breach.cc coming to Windows, so I can code my own missing features in js.

      • Onno Willems

        Never heard of breach.cc. Had a look, seems cool! That is innovation!

        I used FireFox in the past and occasionally did when a site was not compatible with Opera. It just updated to 30. Not a big fan of the new menu. Let’s see if I can get used to it.

    • reesmichael1

      While I understand and in many cases agree with what you’re saying, you may as well know that the tab preview delay is configurable.

      Enable power user settings ( http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/07/opera-developer-24-changes-tab-preview-html5-h-264-video-support/?utm_source=disqus-dashboard#comment-1475553967 ), and you’ll find it under the User Interface section.

      • NoName

        I have tried 0ms, it’s still slow.

        It also takes up to 100% of a CPU core when going through, and I’m on an overclocked 2nd generation i7.

        Goodbye battery life (on laptops/tablets).

      • Onno Willems

        Does not seem to be there (anymore?).

        • ayespy

          You have to enable power user settings, as instructed in the link, to see it. It’s there.

          • Onno Willems

            Yeah, I read what reesmichael1 said and read the link. There is also no “power user settings” as Footman indicated in his reply there, only “Show advanced settings”. I have that on, its not showing me any tab delay,

          • NoName

            Go to Settings and use the Konami Code.

          • ayespy

            “To enable the power user mode press the following key combination while you are on the settings page: Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right b a”

            This works. From the drop-down “O” menu, open the “settings” page. Make sure your cursor is not in the search box, or in any other box – just hovering on a blank area of the settings page. Then on your keyboard, press the “up” arrow twice, “down” arrow twice, “left” and “right” arrows in that order and once again in that order, and then the letters “b” and “a.” You have to do it in fairly quick succession. When you have done it, a dialog pops up on the screen congratulating you for enabling power settings.

            If you don’t get this, there is something wrong with your keyboard, with your machine, or you are doing it wrong.

          • Onno Willems

            I first thought the keys equence was a joke, but I tried it before your reply and indeed it worked. So this simpler Opera browser that has almost no options or configuration has 4 locations and methods for configurations: normal settings via the menu, “advanced settings”, opera://flags and “power user settings” which can only be reached via a magic key sequence and where I have to fiddle to get a tab recognition solution that is flawed by design working a bit better. This made me so sad and strengthened everything I wrote about usability and Opera having lost its way that I did not even reply. Sigh, how I wish they only switched rendering engines, not sacked most of the development team and kept the stuff that made Opera so good in place….

          • ayespy

            Unfortunately, “only switch the rendering engines” was never an option. The old UI and all of its capabilities were tightly integrated with the rendering engine and its java engine and would not work without them.

            Keeping Presto was also not an option, because the increasing amount of time and manpower required to both try to get websites to conform to standards, and to patch Opera to work with badly written websites (that only worked with the more popular rendering engines) when getting web admins to fix their sites was not possible, was just a case of throwing good money after bad.

            And “power user” settings is not for the general public. It’s only for fanatics like us who insist a browser must be configurable on the most granular level.

          • Onno Willems

            Well, they probably couldn’t just swap rendering engines in and out (or at least not without building an interface layer between it), but rebuilding the features that their users valued was certainly an option (and most wouldn’t take that long, I know, I do this for a living). But what they did after assessing that keeping Presto was not viable anymore and switching to Webkit, was also firing a lot of developers. Reports where they fired about 90, including some veteran ones. Now this all may have been necessary because of economic reasons, but it left us where we are now. I see very little enthusiasm from their original user base for their new browser, the design team has made some serious misjudges in the last year, they do not seem to have the manpower to develop the browser at a decent pace and market share seems to be dropping further. Which seems quite logical if you think about the market proposition of the new browser. I wish it was otherwise, but that is how I see it.

          • reesmichael1

            Technically, only about half of those 90 were developers. The rest worked in other departments, like accounting or marketing. (I’m not as certain, but I believe that many of the veteran developers who left chose to do so voluntarily.) Of course, half of 90 is still a huge chunk of people–I’m merely pointing this out because I’m a huge stickler for accuracy ;-)

            https://twitter.com/opvard/status/303504495663525888

            https://twitter.com/opvard/status/303483298926186496

            http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/02/18/opera-sheds-almost-100-employees-after-switching-to-webkit/

  • Павел Шут

    When I switch to a tab where devtools are open page width is wrong – it’s like the tools are actually closed, but resizing devtools fixes layout.

    • Marcin Mitek

      Are you sure you are seeing this in this build? I cannot reproduce it, it’s been fixed some time ago.

      • Павел Шут

        Opera says version is 24.0.1558.25 – Opera is up to date

  • Bob Dole

    Wow. This is an extremely buggy Next build. I usual expect there to be bumps as it IS a Next build but constantly crashing pages, freezes and generally slow response are just some of issues in this build vs 23. I’m certainly looking forward to some refinement!

    • x a

      Could it happen to be you having inadvertently enabled Opera Turbo (formerly known as Offroad Mode formerly known as Opera Turbo)?

      Using Turbo (plus opera://flags/#use-turbo2 and opera://flags/#use-turbo2-video-compression) leads to frequent crashes on my system (Win8.1/64).

      • Bob Dole

        Nope. No flags set. Only thing that’s changed in new Next over previous version of next. :/

    • NicolaMantovani

      A 1000 times this, next 24 is buggy as hell…

    • Raylan Givens

      I haven’t had a single crash or freezing so far. Strange.

  • Elwetana

    Tab previews seem to work fine for me, but I am still missing two things from Opera 12 that nobody else seems to mention:

    * Ability to scroll through opened tags with Right Mouse + Scroll Wheel
    * Open/Save dialog when downloading files

    Am I the only one to use them?

    • reesmichael1

      I’m pretty sure that those have both been mentioned hundreds of times since Opera 15 was first released :-P

    • A. R.

      or scroll tabs through ctrl + tab. They could implement that for the new bigger than bigger tab previews.

      Also users should be able to set a smaller size for the preview, and timing also.

  • LoverOfLife

    In Next i’ve enabled Desktop notifications, and i see that it’s not working (and in Developer it’s a bit strange, a blue window appears for 2 seconds, up in the right corner).. ??

  • oxymor0n

    I looove the simple but yet very useful feature of the darker border for private windows, sweet!

    the tab preview on hover is nice, still have to see whether it adds a lot of value in practice.

  • Lacedaemon

    Is this https://appear.in working in any stream?

    No installation required
    You only need one of the supported browsers listed to the right. -> Chrome, Opera, Firefox

    “Sorry, this experiment is not available on your platform.” is what is there when checking for the WebRTC flags.

  • Major_Profit

    Trying to watch Neflix (have an account here in sweden). I could watch it in the version 23 Next, but can not do it in 24 Next.
    I get this (copyed this text from a google forum but i get the same message but in swedish): Whoops, something went wrong…Netflix Video Player Unavailable

    Our apologies – we cannot find the right components to play Netflix on your Chromebook.

    Please ensure you are not in a Guest Session or in an Incognito tab.

    Also, in chrome://plugins please ensure that both the “Netflix” and the “Widevine Content Decryption Module” plug-ins are enabled and their “Always allowed” setting is checked.

    If this problem persists, please clear all Netflix cookies and site data by navigating to chrome://settings/cookies, typing “netflix” in the search box and clicking “Remove all”.

    If all else fails, please update your Chromebook from the “About Chrome OS” menu.

    Any one else have the same problem?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve just tried here and got the same error message.

  • Davey126

    Bringing up a print dialog via button (not right clicking) causes subsequent scripts to fail on the parent page often triggering a cascade of failures that ultimately results in a freeze that can only be cleared by closing the page (refreshes don’t work). The same sequence works fine in Opera 23. Kinda surprised no one else has experienced this behavior. Pretty repeatable on my end from a variety of domains.

  • Steffie

    Hello. I haven’t been here for a while as i kinda jumped ship to Pale Moon x64 with extensions giving me Tab Stacking, Tab Scrolling, Tab Preview & other goodies to make me feel quite Opera12’ish again. I’m now also a newbie [only a couple of months old] Linux dual-booter with my Win7. However i still have Opera in my blood & so always gravitate back here. i’ve got Developer 24 [latest; love the Tab Previews] running both in Win7 & Linux [nice], but probably coz i’m still ignorant i can’t solve why auto scrolling pages [by clicking wheel then slightly moving mouse up or down] works really well in Win7’s PM & Opera Dev, & in Linux Mint KDE’s PM, but simply will not work for me in Linux Opera Dev. Is there a flag i forgot to set for this? Sorry if this is an embarrassingly naive query, but if anyone could pls kindly tell me how to get Opera Linux page auto-scroll working i’d be v grateful.

  • A. R.

    Where is tab stacking?

    Are tab previews the only thing Opera’s about to bring about of the signature features of Opera from 12.x?

    And from the recent two tab usage polls? Where those polls in the end just useless?

    Tab previews is a good start – albeit previews needs work – like user options for them.

    But it’s very disappointing if other tab usage favorites of people aren’t implemented and brought from Opera 12.x.

    Opera 15 came out over a year ago. Clearly in that context Opera 24 is a huge disappointment. The lack of features is appalling.

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      > And from the recent two tab usage polls? Where those polls in the end just useless?
      Well, they got you Tab Preview ;)

      • Rodders

        I asked for permanent tab pinning option in that poll. Something much more useful for me than the previews. I look forward to this appearing in the developer stream too!

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          We have discussed a more “permanent” solution to pinned Tabs. We see that this could add real benefit. I will have to disappoint you though, currently we have nothing planned there in the pipeline. It’s not that we think they are not useful, but other things are even more useful.

          Still, stay tuned, there are many more cool things to come :)

          • SQL

            May i ask You – Is there _anything_ related to tabs coming in the near future?

          • Rodders

            Well such tabs are very useful but not an absolute priority. Perhaps they are something to think about… after all those cool things have come our way… ;)

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/max1cp?feature=mhum Maxim

        Where are these polls anyways? I visit this blog often and have never seen any poll……

  • Vux777

    what’s with the spam marking?
    is it really a spam, or disqus have hiccups?

    • Lacedaemon

      disqus is just shit man…

      • Vux777

        I also hate disqus…there are many other commenting solutions, why they stick to this one… :/

        • Herr Pietrus

          In Poland, at least, it seems to become more and more popular.

        • Lacedaemon

          Because they are thinking only about themselves (easiness) and because

          Disqus is mobile friendly; its interface swaps according to different media so commenting is not affected even if your readers are on mobile browser. On top of that, Disqus also offers a mobile appfor the convenience of site owners to manage comments and their communities on the go. Disqus apps are currently available for iPhone and Android.

          Of course there are companies and bloggers that respect their fans/customers and take their complaints seriously like http://rebootauthentic.com/disqus-comments-pull-plug/

  • Raylan Givens

    http://i1.minus.com/i0aSAaViENc0l.PNG

    Will you enable the last one later? MSE H264… It’s the best on Windows 7+. Also my Nvidia GPU properly supports HWA using the Video Engine while it doesn’t do so in case of VP8/VP9.

    • Rinne Tensei

      that is why opera does not play videos on HTML5 in youtube. There 2 ways to do this, one, either they need to support that thing or else they have to put some code to prefer html5 over adobe flash.

      • Raylan Givens

        With this version I can finally play all videos on YouTube, like with IE11 and Fx. The problem is, the videos play in VP8 and VP9 ( webm ) format. I saw just one video in H264 format and played fine. I’d like a method to disable Webm and enable only Microsoft’s H264 in mp4 format.

    • SQL

      I believe MSE is already in Chromium, there might be some magic needed from Opera to make it work tho..

      https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=239506

  • Endymion

    My desktop browser on Mac is fooling sites into thinking it’s a mobile browser, so I wind up viewing a lot of mobile versions of sites. This would obviously be better if I didn’t have to work around it. More control on tabs as well, is welcomed.

  • Guest

    Current Chrome ver beta : 37.0.2062.58

    Current Opera ver next : 37.0.2062.44 (chromium)

    Can we expect this on next next ?

  • Guest

    Current Chrome ver beta : 37.0.2062.58

    Current Opera ver next : 37.0.2062.44 (chromium)

    Can we expect this on next next ??

  • Rinne Tensei

    Current Chrome ver beta : 37.0.2062.58

    Current Opera ver next : 37.0.2062.44 (chromium)

    Can we expect this on next next ???

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Check opera:flags.

      • Rinne Tensei

        Dude, that thing is by default enabled, you don’t need to go to flags. I guess opera guys want some testing on that thing before they give it to public. That’s why they kept the chromium 37.0.2062.44

        • Leonardo Gomes

          So why all of them are disabled on your picture? Have you manually disabled them?

          • Rinne Tensei

            That is called by default enabled.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Nope, they are disabled. You need to click on the “enable” link to enable them.

          • Vux777

            weird logic of flags and those who organized them
            feature is eg. “Disable layer squashing”
            and the flag is “Enable/Disable”
            so enabling flag, you actually disabling layer squashing

            in this case, layer squashing and DirectWrite is enabled by default

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Good point. Probably they are enabled.
            Damn, it’s kinda confusing.

  • A. R.

    It’s appalling that over after a year still, from Opera 15 to Opera 24, there still isn’t tab stacking or some kind of panorama feature, it should be a standard that tab bar is “wise”, and tab stacking was one very great feature in 12.x.

  • A. R.

    ooh, I downloaded Opera Next and I got build 24.0.1558.25 from the server, so they’ve updated Next to Opera 24 beta.

  • A. R.

    The background of preview screen is too black, for people it’s easy thought that the tab would be selected. No not that way.

    Customizable size I mean below 80, also set custom timing, flags could have set-able selection and text boxes for e.g. number. I guess those needs to be then ‘apply’.

    Make it better! Make it Opera browser! The one and only!

    We need more in a release! Features! Features Features! browser- and browsing related features and improvements.

  • Lacedaemon

    Why not updating the Dev version to 24.0.1558.25 as well since it is practically the same, until we get the new Dev one?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Maybe because then it would become Next?

      • Lacedaemon

        No, Next and Dev would be identical until new Dev comes out.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Different things can’t/shoudn’t be identical. Also the streams are, somehow, independents and with specific purposes, so Next wasnt upgraded from Developer but Next 23 was upgraded to Next 24 as Developer 24 will be upgraded to 25 probably next week.

          Btw, this is a very old discussion and i don’t think that things will change.

          • Lacedaemon

            updated, upgraded, I meant the same. Latest version of Opera 23 was 23.0.1522.58 and then O24 dev -24.0.1558.25 was practically copy-pasted over, 4-5 bugfixes more of O24-24.0.1558.21. As I said a Next version shouldn’t be newer than the dev version it came from, it should be at least the same. Not that it matters so much though for so little bugfixes since O24-24.0.1558.21, I’m just saying that for the sake of completion :)

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Well, if Developer were updated to 1558.25 then we would have two betas in differente streams and it could cause problems.

  • AlexBrtn

    Plugins exhibited in automatically http://i.imgur.com/nMvlAd8.jpg

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Seems that Turbo/Off-road Mode is enabled.

      • AlexBrtn

        Yes, somehow accidentally clicked :D Sorry)

      • AlexBrtn

        Thank you for being on the path to a better browser.

  • Iron_Storm

    hey guys!!!! good work with the browser BUT CHECK THiS OUT!!! someone created opera extebsion tab packer ( https://addons.opera.com/cs/extensions/details/tab-packer/?display=en ) and IT’S KICKASS!! it allows very easily to save and open tab sessions but also browse through the tab sessions in well readable list, search for tabs with ctrl+f and also search for pages in sessions. perfect tool to organize browsing! and the simple usage, with one click on the extension icon it opens the sessions browser and with double click it saves all tabs from current window and shows them in the sessions browser, where you can search for pages, read all full titles, close pages and save it… hahaaa, awesome! ^^

    now IMHO this is a perfect way to handle tabs and it could be part of the browser by default. really made me happy.

    • Lacedaemon

      That’s just crap. Manual tab stacking is needed (with Ctrl+Click on tabs stacking them to open tab) and grouping tabs together automatically by domain name like in Tab Grouper extension for Presto Opera.

      • Iron_Storm

        what a lame comment. what you describe can in no way supply the functionality as the tab packer plugin

        and grouping by site url is useless because information on a topic is usually found across the web

        if you refer to old opera, the usefull thing with tabs the was tab stacking and extension which automatically grouped new tabs created from a tab with e.g. open in background button.

  • http://www.ubuntuworld.lima-city.de Moritz

    the Tab preview is not useful…

    You can click faster on the tab you want to se…

    • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

      They have created a hidden settings for “advanced” ChrOpera users.

  • zeke

    changes are nice but javascript performance could be much better.

    in some sites, opera seems like an old tractor, im afraid.

    focus on the essentials.

  • Vux777

    there is a huge difference between O-next on win7 and win8.1 (x64 both)
    while on win7 works as a charm, on win8.1 I’m regularly getting blank new tab page (after that no way to get it right, only restart), freezing, tabs have strange delay when switching between them (the whole page is white for a sec and then actual content pops up)….
    same extensions, no AV (defender service turned off on both OS), same PC

  • Peter SF

    Great features and now how can I turn that “awesome” HiDPI feature off? Because I’m not blind and now the font in tabs, bookmarks ,… is way bigger than in Windows or other programs. And because of that the top part takes too much space with less content.

    • NoName

      Why do you have DPI set to more than 100%, if you don’t want it to be bigger?

      • Peter SF

        Because I left it on default?! Becauase if it is on 100% then everything in Windows, Photoshop, etc. is too small?! As I already mentioned in the first post, right now Opera´s UI is way bigger than UI in Windows or other programs. So logically if I set DPI to 100% Opera looks like before but everything else is too small, because Opera is not reflecting DPI settings in Windows at all.

        • Marcin Mitek

          What is the physical size of your screen and what is your default resolution?

          • Peter SF

            15,6″ and 1920×1080

          • x a

            But that, too, is not a HiDPI display, then. Your display will have approx 148 ppi. (You’d call a device ”HiDPI“ with around 240ppi.)

            Like I said above:

            HiDPI is not a cool feature, Opera provides, but a property of your hardware, ie the display. If your display isn’t a HiDPI device, Opera cannot make it one.

            Opera’s HiDPI-setting is not a *HiDPI feature*, but instructs Opera to adapt to *HiDPI devices*. Never thought, that could be confusing…

          • Peter SF

            I never said that I have HiDPI display.

            But thanks for the reminder that I´m completely stupid. I really didn’t know what hardware and software is. I’m so happy that someone so wise came here to show me my mistakes. p.s. I hope you know what sarcasm is.

            So one more time especially for you: Opera is not adapting to DPI settings in Windows correctly.

          • Marcin Mitek

            What would be correct in your opinion?

          • Peter SF

            An ideal would be a slider. Something like the one that is used for zooming web sites. Or just option to “turn off” adapting to Windows DPI settings.
            But there are, in my opinion, too many limitations within the Chromium it self so I can not say exactly what can or can not be done.

            Look, I started with Opera 6 or 7, I don’t remember exactly and I still love Opera because for me it is best browser, but Opera had many features that clearly separated it from the rest. Now it is much more difficult to find such features.

            Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that Opera team is not working hard enough, because Opera is still much better than Chrome. But I just miss many great things that made Opera special for me.

          • Inquisitor

            Ideally, Opera should read any Windows DPI setting as default 100% zoom. So, if I set my Windows DPI at 125 % this would correspond to Opera’s 100% page zoom and medium font; thus viewing pages in the Opera browser would have the same look and feel as other programs in Windows.
            Equally, if I set my Windows DPI to, say, 90%, Opera would call this setting 100%. This ‘100%’ would obviously produce smaller fonts, icons, bars,… than the 100% which equals the Windows 125% DPI.

            As it is now, a Windows DPI of 125% automatically enlarges the Opera fonts, bars, etc.. to 125%, while it should be at 100%.

          • ayespy

            What would be correct would be for Opera to behave as essentially all other software does, and produce a consistent display size irrespective of the DPI setting of Windows. I have 118 programs and applications installed on Windows 8.1. TWO of them (Opera and Firefox) display their interfaces at unexpectedly large sizes when I switch to 125% view size on the desktop, forcing me to make adjustments to zoom size to cram a sensible amount of page into a viewable area because of the inappropriately large default page size (at 125%) and the excessive amount of space the chrome of the application is consuming.

        • Inquisitor

          I have exactly the same issue. My Windows DPI is set at 125% ‘Normal’ (screen 1920×1080 – 21.5″ ).

          • x a

            But that’s not a HiDPI display, then. Your display will have approx 108 ppi.

            HiDPI is not a cool feature, Opera provides, but a property of your hardware, ie the display. If your display isn’t a HiDPI device, Opera cannot make it one.

            Opera’s HiDPI-setting is not a *HiDPI feature*, but instructs Opera to adapt to *HiDPI devices*. Never thought, that could be confusing…

  • Brooke

    You should take a windows phone / windows 8 approach to your speed dials and make them live tiles. there are already cases where merely linking a web address as a tile on windows phone will make it live so surely adding this support in opera can only be a good thing. if they dont use it, its the same as it always was, if they do use it, then it is better for everyone.. and the more incentive to enable it the better for everyone.

    • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

      This sounds like a nice idea! +1

  • Raylan Givens

    Please, can someone answer me? If I disable this flag, will Opera render text in the same way IE11 does on Windows 8/8.1?

    LCD text anti-aliasing
    If disabled, text is rendered with grayscale anti-aliasing instead of LCD (subpixel rendering) when doing accelerated compositing.

    As it seems, it does exactly that, Opera renders text as IE11 on Win8+. I guess this is the most efficient since Microsoft adopted it, but it’s mainly for tablets/smart-phones which have extremely high PPI, right? I mean, IE11 looks ugly on our LCD monitors since they’re not High PPI/DPI ones.

    Also, I have directwrite enabled… Do you think there’s major reason I shouldn’t have it enabled?

    • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

      IE uses directwrite, this is probably the setting that has similar text effect on Opera.

  • A. R.

    Nothing exiting is usually announced when a new version on developer build comes out.

    Like where is tab stacking? And:
    – Able to move cache and downloads location to another location
    – Flag to run tabs in one process
    – Be able to arrange download & extensions icons
    – x64

    – Tab prewievs
    1. could be a bit smaller, actually, users should be able to set a smaller size they choose. 2. User set timing. 3. ctrl + tabulator browsing through them would mimic O12 and many would be happy.

    • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

      -You can move download folder to another location.
      -You can use Chromium flags to run tabs in single process.
      – x64 builds have been recently in beta state for Chrome, expect it for Opera soon, though i don’t see why an average user should be concerned about this.
      -You can set custom timing for tab previews

      • A. R.

        how to run in one tab?

        how do i move download folder? what I mean is temporary downloads…

        • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

          In settings, downloads, location is what u need?

          And for single process try this:

          http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/#renderer-process-limit

          • A. R.

            I need a switch for removing cache folder too, I tried with the process switch and it did not work. This is all very hard and troublesome. Opera needs in settings/experiments keys for enabling disabling these. Especially cache folder should be able to locate from settings.

          • Vux777

            if you are on windows (7 and above), you can use junction.

            for instance, if I want to move “User Data” folder from Chrome installation (default is in %userprofile%AppDataLocalGoogleChrome) to my Z partition (in new folder Chrome), I would:

            -cut “User Data” folder from user profile, and paste it on Z in Chrome folder

            -Run command prompt as Administrator (from start search cmd, right click, run as…)

            -write in it (or paste by clicking on cmd icon top left):

            mklink /J "C:UsersUSER_NAMEAppDataLocalGoogleChromeUser Data" "Z:ChromeUser Data"

            …and that’s it. Windows will create shortcut in original folder, and actual data will be stored on new location. If you want to cancel that junction, just delete shortcut and bring back folder that you moved. You can move any folder you like this way, and not depending on chrome command switches.
            There is probably something similar on mac and linux…dunno
            For XP I think you need to install Junction aplication

          • A. R.

            but mklink /j keeps the old and new location both.

            it’s only mklink /d that’s dynamic link and only keeps one copy of the files – at the wanted destination.

            i tried doing this with elevated cmd but for some reason command prompt replied it’s not possible, probably because of directory rights.

            So now I’m using a switch to move cache folder, but the downside of using a switch is that it’s not universal… the application get’s started /new tab / new window from other places too such as applications, not only taskbar.

            So there should be an option to move the cache away from C. It’s appalling that this isn’t included. Like even IE has had it from the get go.

            This feature used to be in O18? O19? but now it’s removed. Where is logic and reason?

            There is a lack of freedom in Opera.

          • A. R.

            Obviously only one switch can be used at a time, as i have tried with multiple switches and that’s not working. Anyhow a switch in shortcut is just ridiculous as it’s not a universal. I want universal options in the options/experiments!

  • disqus_VTawb2byU4

    Why is the bookmarks bar not synced with Opera link?

    • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

      Work in progress!

  • Cjcr

    Guys, why can’t edit URL in the popup window? is it totally read-only. Please fix it or change that!! Is really annoying if you want to edit the current URL in that popup.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      This is by design. The pop-up window belongs to the tab that opened it. Its not really an independent tab.

      The address field is shown for security purposes (security badges, address).

      • Cjcr

        I don’t like that behavior. In the old Opera we can change the parameters of the URL in a popup but now the only way is copy and paste the popup’s URL to another tab.

        Thanks for reply.

        • ayespy

          There should not actually be an address bar in a popup. It should be content only, no UI elements aside from a frame

  • A. R.

    - flag for to run tabs in one process
    – ability to move cache folder
    – ability to move profile folder

    With being able to move them, Opera can quickly be taken with usb. for example. And People want to move especially cache away from SSD. Even IE has this – has almost always had.

    – Categorize opera:flags

    • taneli

      For the first one, doubt that’s ever gonna happen.
      Second, could be handy even for the normal instal.
      Third, you can install the USB standalone installation, so the profile folder will be in the Opera directory where you installed it.
      Cache on SSD isn’t bad, but some might want to move it onto a RAMDisk.

      • A. R.

        Well I tried USB installation too, but I couldn’t make symlinks under program files. So no benefit and coherence at all. Cant they just add options and ignore what people do? It’s they’re browser of choise u know.

        Opera used to offer freedom, customization, and was leading browser feature developments. Many features now known to every browser got a start in Opera. That we respect, but thew Opera has just wiped out everything.

    • http://velmont.no/ Odin Hørthe Omdal (odinho/Velm

      Do you know about –user-data-dir or is that not what you’re asking for (with the moving of profile folder)?

      • A. R.

        yes I’m using this switch, I would use more of them but apparently only 1 switch can be used at a time – or the others didn’t work.

        what’s wrong with get go with these switches is that they are not universally applied, and that makes things difficult. People can’t track every reg entry and shortcut to put the switch (switches) in.

        Why remove such a feature as moving cache to another location is just beyond belief… of the good old Opera. Not to mention that the forever cripple IE even has it and has had it like always.

  • http://pedro.albuquerques.net Pedro Albuquerque Santos

    The only really really really gamebreaking feature that I find missing on Opera is the lack of Sync capabilities. If you add that I’ll consider switching to Opera on my PC (Windows and Linux) and Android devices. Until then… I like to try the new features and refinements but I just can’t use it as my main browser like I sometimes used to do before Opera 15.

    • A. R.

      O25 announcement probably doesn’t offer anything to excite about. Those huge in the way not being able to set functionality – thumb previews I turned off. So not much was gained from O24.

      Apart from tab stacking I also miss notes. But I know it’s give and take.

      Especially know since Opera devs have decided that the user doesn’t have to miss or decide about anything.

      • ahoj1234

        If I were Odev you would be banned here like a few days ago… Not because of your opinion but because of SPAM. (always the same phases every single day and mostly not only once a day)

        //you should try to build up your own browser (company) then//
        I believe that you will be excited what the O25 will bring new. Anyway, do not forget how long it takes in “old” Opera… Poor devs are working even harder on blink-based Opera (android, PC, TV, /Win. phone/ etc.) and most of you still don’t get it…

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/max1cp?feature=mhum Maxim

          If I was O dev I would ban 60% of people here because all they do is spam every post.

          • reesmichael1

            It certainly feels that way sometimes :P

        • A. R.

          Look at the mobile blog page, nobody seems to be interested. I have mobile browsers too and Opera is my choice number one because of the brand.

          But many people are not like me and just use the bundle-browser.

          Mobile and tablet interface is a growing market. However the desktop/laptop will never die. And currently and for long to come Windows desktop/laptop users make the biggest portion of the core users. Why are they been neglected?

  • Ralf Brinkmann
  • yohoho

    For godsakes people!!! If you really want a better more feature pack and not limited/removed features chrome based browser. Use GOOGLE CHROME or better yet OTHER CHROME BASED BROWSERS out there w/o their features removed and some even incorporated additional features, improved/fixed what the default had. As for OPERA NEXT? Meh! They removed a lot of useful things in chrome just to make it look like its their own, but believe me it’s still a reskinned chrome no matter how many time they reskin it and put a big letter O in there. Another thing is they’ll never be able to incorporate the features that PRESTO OPERA had, since 1# ENGINE LIMITATION 2# GOOGLE CHROME RULES(even if they deny this, ever since they used GOOGLE CHROMES ENGINE they’ve been under their thumbs 3# Presto was obviously built to be fully customizable for poweruser freaks unlike other browsers like Chrome or Mozilla which are built for simplicity where the user just install then browser instantly without any more quirks or whatever. So yeah! Opera Next is just another dumb down version of Chrome where other Chrome based browsers take advantage of what Chrome engine has to offer rather than degrade its function. For me opera unless they go back and improve Presto which was their own promising engine(fingers crossed) is dead. Google Chrome will always be supperior in terms of Security/Stability/BugFixes/Features/etc since its their engine. 3 main browsers i use Google Chrome/Firefox/my personal fave Presto Opera(fully customized it to my tastes).

    • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

      Agreed. This “browser” is for noobs, not for advanced OPERA users. But they will be crashed when Otter will have all features from Opera, some from Maxthon and other things :)

    • reesmichael1

      If you really want a better more feature pack and not limited/removed features chrome based browser. Use GOOGLE CHROME or better yet OTHER CHROME BASED BROWSERS out there w/o their features removed and some even incorporated additional features, improved/fixed what the default had.

      Examples of other Chromium based browsers that are more feature packed, please?

      As for OPERA NEXT? Meh! They removed a lot of useful things in chrome just to make it look like its their own, but believe me it’s still a reskinned chrome no matter how many time they reskin it and put a big letter O in there.

      Stating that Opera “removed a lot of useful things in chrome” is, I suppose, technically true. The Opera developers took Chromium and removed its interface (and therefore pretty much every “feature” that Chromium has) so that they were able to use Blink, the rendering engine that Chromium uses. However, every other feature that you see in Opera 15+ has been added back in on top of Blink by the Opera team. This has been a massive engineering endeavor, and I doubt that it’s nearly as simple as some people here would have you believe.

      However, saying that Opera “removed a lot of useful things in chrome just to make it look like its their own” is disingenuously false at best.

      Another thing is they’ll never be able to incorporate the features that PRESTO OPERA had, since 1# ENGINE LIMITATION 2# GOOGLE CHROME RULES(even if they deny this, ever since they used GOOGLE CHROMES ENGINE they’ve been under their thumbs 3# Presto was obviously built to be fully customizable for poweruser freaks unlike other browsers like Chrome or Mozilla which are built for simplicity where the user just install then browser instantly without any more quirks or whatever.

      #1. Engine Limitation: I have no clue what this means. Please clarify.

      #2. Google Chrome Rules: This is not true. Chromium is open source and released under various open-source licenses, all of which allow modification and redistribution however the modifying authors see fit. There are no “rules” pushed down from Google on what modifications can be made.

      #3. Presto Customizability: Sure, Presto was insanely customizable. That’s one of the many things I loved about the Presto based Opera versions. However, as far as I’m aware, there’s no technical reason that customizability can’t come back in Blink based Opera. I would expect that customizability is tied to the interface (the one that Opera controls–see above), not to the rendering engine.

      Also, please answer this question: Is it necessarily a bad thing if a browser just installs “instantly without any more quirks”?

      So yeah! Opera Next is just another dumb down version of Chrome where other Chrome based browsers take advantage of what Chrome engine has to offer rather than degrade its function. For me opera unless they go back and improve Presto which was their own promising engine(fingers crossed) is dead. Google Chrome will always be supperior in terms of Security/Stability/BugFixes/Features/etc since its their engine. 3 main browsers i use Google Chrome/Firefox/my personal fave Presto Opera(fully customized it to my tastes).

      Sure, Google is the company that pushes the majority of commits to Blink. But that doesn’t mean that Blink is solely Google’s engine, or that Chrome will always be the most stable Chromium based browser. It most certainly does not imply that Chrome will always be superior “in terms of Security/Stability/BugFixes/Features.” Again, the interface of the browser is not equal to the rendering engine, so if two browsers share an engine (like Opera and Chrome do), then it’s the interface that determines which browser is more stable.

      • A. R.

        True this too, but let’s face it it’s over a year since they released Opera 15. And Opera’s latest version 24 is yet another big let down.

        • reesmichael1

          Maybe. I’m still in the “let’s give them more time and see what comes out of this” camp. It’s my understanding that it took quite a bit longer to get Opera 15+ as solid as it needed to be to start adding in features as those of use who use the browser would have thought. I’m not going to look for it now, but a couple of versions ago, @Aeyoun:disqus (I believe) pointed out that subtle things with the new interface like keybindings on Google Drive had only just started working. That’s only one example, but it was my impression that there were countless other small bugs that still had to be ironed out before the Opera 15+ interface was solid enough to start really adding in new features. If I understood correctly, Opera developers had to spend most of their time smoothing out those bugs.

          One of the reasons I was so excited about the inclusion of the tab preview in Opera 24 was simply that it was a new feature. To me, that signaled that perhaps the seemingly endless stabilization period had come to an end of sorts, which meant that development time was freed up to start working on adding real features back in.

          That’s why I’m not willing to buy into the “Opera development is stagnant and dead” camp yet. I would love it if I woke up tomorrow to a Developer 25 build that had tab stacking, a fully fledged bookmark manager, and a vertical sidebar. But even if that dream is forever unrealized, it doesn’t mean that there aren’t other interesting things going on with Opera. Now that developers are hopefully able to devote most of their time to adding in features, let’s give them more time to actually do so :-)

        • ayespy

          One year is not anything CLOSE to the 18+ years it took to develop Opera 12.16

          • A. R.

            We are talking about basics here. Apart from few features stacking is the only new thing to get at least somewhat exited about, but the dev’s are thinking of removing that too.

            In Opera 12 there different many clients in the browser, like bittorrent and irc to name a few. Now that these are not coming back, this over a year doesn’t seem so short compared to those 18 years of Presto.

            Including also that along those 18 years the web developed too, so it’s not like speed dial or tabbed browsing were invented 1996.

            All the features are on they’re reach but rather than adding it seems that the trend is – removing or not adding at all. This a bit over one year was a time for Opera to prove a point with moving away from Presto – and they haven’t yet proved anything.

          • ayespy

            It’s clear you cannot appreciate the work involved unless you sit down and do the coding yourself. Feel free to do so at any time.

    • A. R.

      I’ll almost second this. It’s been over a year with the new, and the latest beta/dev O24 is yet another disappointment for those who seek what Opera really is. Can they ever achieve even somewhat close to Opera 12? I want to believe, but the past years doesn’t convince. Perhaps Opera 25 will shed some light?

  • A. R.

    I remember in some new release announcement while ago there was written that the dev’s are adding power user options all the time even though they don’t specify them with every release post.

    Ok. That’s ok.

    But what we find is the total opposite: Power user options are not being added, and in fact power user options are being removed! Like cache location.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      IIRC, what was said was that with power user options they would have more possibilities to add some settings but there was never said that they would be adding those settings all the time.

    • ayespy

      The power user options, such as they are, remain always accessible in the Developer stream. Not all power options make the grade and get promoted to Stable.

      • A. R.

        Well actually moving the cache is a basic setting rather than power user setting.

        • ayespy

          Not really. The average user would not only never dream such a move was possible – they would not even understand what “moving the cache” meant or what the “cache” is.

  • Davey126

    I had to fall back to O23 as too many sites were breaking with O24. Biggest problems occurred using embedded print buttons (which usually triggers a printer selection popup) as outlined in a previous post. But I also found some sites that try to modify the existing page caused tab failures and/or lockups. It’s probably something simple that I’m not describing well. First time I have been burned by the ‘Next’ stream which I have used for several releases; will stick with stable for now.

  • Martin
    • Ralf Brinkmann

      I am so excited and curious.

  • WL-`

    Can some one help me out here. Flash just updated to version 15. But I need the pepper version which is still version 14 as the non pepper version has a lot of fps drops which viewing flash. Despite enabling prefer pepper plugin, opera still uses the non pepper flash version 15. I’ve no idea how to switch to pepper.

  • Jasius

    This has been THE WORST opera version yet, I’m getting these annoying white tabs even after I turned off “delay loading of background pages”.

    Also my laptops fans are running like crazy like Chrome used to make them run, and sometimes pages are freezing making me do a gesture on the wrong tab, this thing is a nightmare now! Opera never did that UNTIL 24, what did these guys break to make this iteration so bad?? Does anyone have tweaks for me please?

    I think it’s pages with obnoxious gifs, how did Opera 24 change the way Opera handles gifs form Opera 23??

    • tdudziec

      about pepperflash -enter opera:plugins then “show details” disable pepper plugin

  • Mihail Gershkovich

    24.0.1558.25 – Makes Processor busy to full 100%, even for simple page loads….
    A CPU load of 30-50% is very common. But it doesn’t happen always.

  • Guest

    Why is the windows of YT video smaller now in Opera, than in IE or FF? Wasn’t like that before.

  • Dark Magician

    Why is the windows of YT video smaller ‘now’ in Opera, than in IE or FF?

  • AlexBrtn

    http://i.imgur.com/73VSRu7.jpg opera closed <2 min

  • Guest

    Also, YT playlist makes black spots on video.
    Actually it’s extension causing it.

  • Bob Dole

    Along with crashing, freezes and generally slow response of Opera 24 Next, I find that the Shockwave Plugin crashes and now that I’ve tried to uninstall and reinstall it, it won’t perform a successful test. Anyone else with that one too?

  • L33t4opera

    New build for the Opera Next: 24.0.1558.34.

  • Reubend

    I would far prefer a smaller tab preview that appears under that tab. Something a little more discreet that occupies less of the screen. As it stands, this preview doesn’t look like a “sneak peek”, it just looks like a slightly smaller version of the actual page.