Opera Developer update day! – 19.0.1326.0

Hello from Warsaw,

Winter still haven’t found it’s way to Poland but let’s not forget – it is coming.

We’re happy to bring You the newest version of our Opera 19 Developer. I have the pleasure of announcing that this is the last update of 19th version, You can already get excited about what is waiting just around the corner.

This update bring a lot of bugfixes, to check the full list please visit the full changelog.

Highlights

  • Opera Stash Extensions API – note this is experimental and may change
  • DNA-12828 “Create search engine” dialog does not save encoding
  • Update chromium to 1700.6

Downloads

About Mateusz Madej

I'm a tester in Opera Desktop Team - Warsaw office. I started working for Opera in July 2013 and was an Opera user since 9.5 version.

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  • nanana1

    Thank you for this Opera 19 Developer build 1326 for our testing before moving it to Next !

  • http://about.me/muhasturk Mustafa Hastürk

    “Stash Extensions API” is exciting.

  • L33t4opera

    Thanks for the info, and update, Mateusz ;-)

  • NoName

    The changelog does not contain anything for 19.0.1326.0 yet?

    • L33t4opera

      Indeed, and what is more weird, the date of the post is “Nov 21, 2013″ ;-)

    • Mateusz Madej

      Thanks for info, we will fix it ASAP

    • L33t4opera

      You can already see the change log for this version :)

  • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

    Thanks but blog title is wrong. The post doesn’t show when you click desktop blog url. It seems title contains some date or you chenged new??

    • Mateusz Madej

      Should work fine now :)

  • Trịnh Quốc

    I hope speed dial will be improved, should allow user change size of a speed dial, should provide a option user can change image in speed dial instead of screen shot!

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      Zoom in/out.
      Enable Power User Mode to increase columns to 7 max.

      • http://trustnoduck.blogspot.tw/ 茶米

        I also want the ability to lock it. I’ve added all my favorite sites and now there’s a useless add button sticking out on the bottom. Trivial but so annoying.

    • Raylan Givens

      Speed Dial should be built in Windows native way, like the one of Internet Explorer’s. The same applies to Bookmarks Bar. Nevermind if we don’t have 1000 different options for the bookmarks bar alone or Speed Dial… Just native and perfect; like the main UI.

      Enough with the mess… Some Win native elements, some custom and some… circus.

      • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

        As far as I know, Opera has had offices in eastern Europe for a long time.

      • BK

        Greetings from central Europe.

      • [828586]

        sorry “genius” but analogy USA, China and Europe is misguided, Poland where is now Opera office is part of EU

        typical yankees ignorance

      • http://my.opera.com/haavard/ opvard

        If you continue to post such racist comments, you will be blocked.

        Opera’s HQ is still in Norway, by the way.

    • Laza Ciprian

      i think that all of the features we all loved in opera 12 will be back one by one in time. We just have to be patient.

    • Vux777

      all of that is available in patch (unofficially ofc)
      http://my.opera.com/dqdb1/blog/2013/07/22/more-columns-in-speed-dial

    • BK

      SD size should be configurable in O20+ very soon. More themes support upgrades are also on the way.

      • Kai Ockendorf

        You should give more hints of upcoming features!! I really miss Haavards Tweets about that ;) What does themes support upgrades mean?? Will we get rid of the shining lights on top in SD/Stash??

        • BK

          SD top is going to be redesigned anyway :)

          If you remember old skining system, we are working on new similar format, like

          [Start Page]
          Background = SlideImage1.png
          Type = BestFit
          Title Text Color = #000000
          Title Text Shadow = none

          [Window Image]
          Background = something.png
          Type = BestFit
          Title Text Color = #000000
          Title Text Shadow = none

          but please don’t ask for details, as the format is far from being completed.

          • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

            Nice to hear this, thanks :)

          • Kai Ockendorf

            Thank you for the quick reply!! Can’t wait to see it :)

          • Emanuele

            I suppose it is intended only for the “in-page” content and not for the browser’s chrome itself

            However I’m more interested in other lacks at the moment so I will not ask at all for a full skinning system

          • x a

            As I already mentioned with the dev.opera article, I’d really like to see background tiles, what wouldn’t require much more than giving access to CSS background-repeat: quite similarly as you already do to background-position: with the “position=…” persona instruction.

          • Lilie

            Me likes ;)
            Why not make the syntax more css-like. Of course that would mean more work for the devs but it could result in more interesting skins since there are a lot of tools that “understand” the syntax and the skin designers could take advantage of them

            #start-page{
            background: res(image.png) best-fit;
            color:#000;
            text-shadow:#fff;
            }
            #start-page .item{
            background: #00ffff;
            }

      • x a

        For an author of SD extensions it was somehow advantageous only having to deal with one known SD canvas size. You shouldn’t forget to give specific min/max extents / aspect ratio in the documentation, once resizable SDs are implemented.

        • BK

          Good point. Thanks.

  • NoName

    Am I the only one who got slow scrolling compared to the earlier versions?

    • Mateusz Madej

      What do You mean by that? Scrolling of web pages?

      • NoName

        Yes, I usually use a smoothscroll extention, but in this version, it’s a lot more laggy, close to the point, where I want to disable it.

        Even if I disable the extention, and use my mouse on the scrollbar, I see the exact same laggy behaviour, which I usually don’t.

        For reference, it’s very smooth in Chrome Canary.

        I can do some performance tests when I get home from work, if you would like.

        • Marcin Mitek

          Any example web pages? Or basically, everywhere?

          • NoName

            Everywhere. Also here.
            Using Win 8.1 with i5-3210M as CPU/GFX

          • NoName

            I just did some testing. Opera caps the FPS at 30 when scrolling. So even on my high-end computer at home, it’s sluggish.

            Chrome Canary caps at 60 FPS (and 120 FPS on my 120hz monitors).

            I used Devtools’ FPS-meter in both cases.

          • Dark Magician

            Scrolling isn’t smooth enough. Especially compared with IE 11.

        • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

          Did you try modern scroll ( addons.opera.com/extensions/details/modern-scroll/ )?
          I wrote it in and for Opera and didn’t notice any deterioration.

    • Ghirahim

      Same here. I immediately noticed the difference. I have smooth scrolling enabled and it doesn’t feel like that anymore.

    • taneli

      Yep (without smoothscroll extensions, it’s kinda tacky now). Also noticing slowness in selecting text now.

    • SLR

      Actually scrolling became smoother for me, especially middle-click scrolling. I have smooth scrolling disabled in flags, no scrolling extensions installed.

  • Vux777
    • NoName

      Your link does not work. But thanks for the working link.

      • Vux777

        yea…don’t know why… In edit everything looks fine (without that blogs.opera…. URL

        damn disqus

    • Mateusz Madej

      Thanks, I updated it with the link as suggested :)

    • Frenzie

      Still waiting for opera.addEventListener API. :P

  • Data Keeper

    Opening every new tab is still pain on overloaded computer. When I manually set (opera.exe” –type=renderer….) process priority from “below normal:6″ to “normal:8″ it load page immediately. Where I can set option so Opera load child processes in same priority as root process (Task manager does not show process priority but it looks important).

    Yes, I know that the CPU is busy with other things at the moment and I do not expect any miracle, but I expect to be able to load a browser page. It works OK with already loaded tabs, but open new tab is absolutely shocking.

    • Cjcr

      Thats the problem for YouTube videos for example. If a YouTube video is running in a background tab the sounds get cuts. Hope there is a solution … and the solution seems change the process priority … but we can’t.

  • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

    I intended to link to a comment I made in 1324 about this build before this post appeared, but it seems to be gone… Hence anew:

    Address bar looks a lot better know with HiDPI. Thanks! :)
    But: letters like “g” are cut at the bottom by 1 or 2 pixels while there’s enough space in theory (remaining white strip it could extend into)

  • disqus_glr6kihX1u

    I still have problem with flash in players like youtube.

    • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik

      problem

      Please be specific about it, there’s no way to guess what problem you’re referring to.

  • josemuk

    Since 19.0.1324 version, Steam Market graphs aren’t displayed, for example: http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/753/214560-Marked?filter=mark%20of%20the%20ninja%20card should show something like this: http://usuarios.arsystel.com/josemuk/opera/steam.jpg

    • Mateusz Madej

      Thanks for sharing this, I’ll investigate.

  • Vux777

    HTML5 is still forced over flash on YT

    and Vimeo vids are totally broken

    I can’t play any of the videos here https://vimeo.com or embedded

    that “click to play” blocker is showing constantly even it’s set to “auto play”… or whatever is in English version name for that option

    • Mateusz Madej

      You probably have Off-road mode set. Check Opera Menu if the option is ticked and turn it off. If not, go to Settings -> Websites and check Plug-ins option

      • Vux777

        yes, I surf with off-road
        but that should’t be a problem

        • Mateusz Madej

          In Off-Road mode we always force Click to play on plugins, also HTML5 will be preferred in this version since it’s lighter

          • Vux777

            but on YT with flash I can choose 240 or 144p, no way to do that in HTML5…only 360p is option
            amount of data traffic is important to me (and probably others on mobile networks)

          • Mateusz Madej

            This is due to no ads in HTML5 player on YouTube. No ads = less traffic = quicker video delivery.

          • Shion

            Following your logic, you should just kill the user. That way you’ll save even more of his and opera-turbo servers traffic.

            Also Opera Help does not say anything about what you told here. How would user know about it? And why do you decide so much for him? I mean, HTML5 video is an option in YouTube. No matter how much do you “care” for your customer, ignoring his choices is at least unethical.

            And the most interesting question about it: why the hell do you WASTE your work-power on “tweaking browser behaviour for each popular site out there”, when you have so much Presto’s features to bring back!?

          • Vux777

            I’m sorry, but that’s wrong
            50 or 100 kb add doesn’t mean much, compared to video double size from 240p (or 144)
            It would be much better to force lower quality on YT instead of HTML5

            edit: also, vid’s are not compressed with turbo/offroad…
            so it’s not like you making you’r job easier with HTML5
            it’s the same for you (O-proxy)

  • Emanuele

    I’m trying the new Sync… Is it my fault or there are no options to choose what I will synchronize?

    This is another not acceptable thing. Why you’re doing all wrong? I can’t believe it. So you expect that when passwords will be available for synchronization, you’ll get them without my explicit approbation? O_o

    • Kurt Zon

      I think it was said somewhere that only Speed Dials, Stash items, and custom search providers are synchronized at the moment. However, you are right in that there is no option to choose….

      • Emanuele

        The point here isn’t about the lack of other data to synchronize… I read that a.t.m. we have only these… but why Opera thinks that I don’t need to decide what of MY data (I repeat: MY data, not Opera data) should be saved on an external server, and what should not? …. is it so weird if I want to synch, for example, only speed dials bit not Stash ?

        These are things that hurt me very much… every decision in the new Opera is absurd, as they don’t even test themselves their software at all…

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  • II_ARROWS

    I prefer a slower increase in major version number… since you earned 7 “major” release from Opera 12 and you still didn’t managed to implement all Opera 12 features…

    I hate all this rush introduced by chrome years ago, destroyed the meaning of version number.

    • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

      There’s no rush because of a stupid number. Why do so many people keep complaining about it?

      It’s called “agile development”. Read about it ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_developmentand ) and finally drop this senseless discussion once and for all.

      • Mateusz Madej

        People can complain about anything Christoph, it’s the right of the internet :) We read all the comments and discuss them

        • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

          Totally agreed. And I’m the last one to make people shut up when there’s something wrong, but seriously, a number…?

          • Shion

            II_ARROWS just wanted to point out, that, while you made 7 major changes to the Opera (based on the version number), there was only one obvious change that could be named major, and everything else should have only ++’ed the minor number, especially in comparsion to what Presto was able to do.

            In other words – the results of your work doesn’t look “major” at all.

            As for “who cares” – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning – people who came up with this and those who understand and follow this principle do.

          • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

            “while devteam made 7 major changes to the Opera (based on the version number)”

            No, they ran through 7 release cycles.
            And all changes made in a cycle are in place of “minor”. It’s just another scheme.

        • fckdisqs

          They can, but they are getting more and more surveilled/profiled thanks to such inventions like disqus.

      • II_ARROWS

        No, agile development has nothing to do with versioning…

        • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

          Well, you try to name release cycles. So indirectly yes it does.
          What would be more appropriate?
          a .1 increase?
          Other products are marked by a year, but version 2014 is presented to the world in August 2013…
          What does it matter to you?
          Higher number = newer version. Who cares about 0.1, 1 or 1000?

        • Leonardo Gomes

          And that’s exactly what happens here with Opera: new versions bring new things.

    • András Ács

      This has been debated to death long ago. These version numbers reflect the development model, and are mainly useful to keep track of release streams (or ‘trains’ in Mozilla terminology), without this naming it would very quickly turn to nightmare of not knowing what is what.

      An important thing about these version numbers is that they are unimportant for the user, the default install is just always the latest.

      The release stream model has proven itself with web browsers, and allows quick evolving of web technologies. Any vendor who doesn’t iterate like this is slated to fall behind.

      • Douglas Ryan

        Not really. Before Chrome what would have been called version 19 would have simply been called 15.4 or something. Inflated version numbers have nothing to do with the speed of software development. Have people seriously forgotten about minor releases that already allowed the implementation of improvements between major releases?

        • András Ács

          Why is 15.4 better again? I missed that part.

          Actually I was not talking about the speed but the method of development, which *enables* one to move ahead with regular, bigger steps. On the developer’s part it avoids heaps of branching and eliminates the need to continuously decide what is major or minor. Et cetera, look it up if you really care. Here is one link about Firefox: https://blog.mozilla.org/channels/2011/07/18/every-six-weeks/

          You seem to be arguing over where the dot is in the number. But really, this was boring two years ago and off-topic anyway so let’s not continue.

          • RingMyDingDong

            Yes, i agree with the version number issue.

            We will have version 100 very soon. Its pointless..

          • http://my.opera.com/haavard/ opvard

            The version number doesn’t really matter. All it’s there for right now is to tell you there’s a new version out. If it reaches 100 or 1000 or 10 000 it doesn’t really matter because the version number is not really intended for marketing purposes anymore.

          • Dark Magician

            It is exactly for marketing purposes.

    • bruce lawson

      “I prefer a slower increase in major version number… since you earned 7 “major” release from Opera 12 and you still didn’t managed to implement all Opera 12 features…”

      My advice is to forget about version number. Browsers should be “evergreen”, that is, continuously up-to-date so the Web can advance.

      And we’re not planning to implement “all Opera 12 features”; rather, we’ll look at what people need to make browsing more effective, and innovate to solve 2013’s problems.

      • Emanuele

        I (and many other people here) need my notes and sidepanels to make my browsing experience more effective… even in 2014 or 2020 if you didn’t say ;)

        so add them please… it’s a very simple request, is something that doesn’t hurt the newbies’ experience since they will not even know about them, and you’ll solve a lot of problems for us (YOUR users… I don’t know if this has still some value for you guys)

        thanks

      • Tams80

        Well please hurry up then. Since 15 was released hardly anything that the end users see has been released. You have plenty of feedback from comments regarding features people would like to see, but you have shown almost no evidence that you are working on them.

        No returning “all Opera 12 features” is fair enough. So far from the initial new Opera you have released… a bookmark bar…

        Even your new, somewhat questionable about whether they are even that useful features appear to have been abandoned.

        All you seem to be do now is issue updates according to Chromium and do bug fixes. This is the dev channel I’m talking about as well, which I thought was supposed to be where the new features are tested.

        Then, when you do introduce something, you bury among the flags. If people have to come to these comments sections to find out about them, then you are doing something wrong, The developer version is supposed to be expected to be unstable in places. There is no reason to hide features in it.

    • http://my.opera.com/haavard/ opvard

      There’s no such concept as major and minor releases anymore, really. You are thinking about version numbers the old way.

  • aiphee

    “You can already get excited about what is waiting just around the corner.”

    I hope it is working sync, tab stash and Linux version.

  • hspdion

    I’m having issues with these latest builds of Opera and the new version of the Evernote extension. With the Evernote extension enabled, certain websites’ entire layout (example: http://www.surrenderat20.net/ ) is pushed to the left of the window frame.

    Only ‘workaround’ I’ve found so far is to disable the evernote extension.

    • Mateusz Madej

      Thanks, we will be sure to check it. I also deleted your first comment about this since it was duplicate ;)

  • iPristy

    Vista need some love for master tab “wrong color”.

  • iPristy

    Vista need some love for master tab, “wrong color”.

  • senna_4ever

    What kind of extensions could be done for Stash, for example?

    • Joel Spadin

      At the moment, extensions that read the things in your stash and possibly remove them. The ability to add an item to the stash programmatically seems completely missing.

      Edit: It looks like we don’t get access to the site screenshot either.

      • senna_4ever

        thx

      • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

        opera://stash-snapshot/?url={url} ?

        • Joel Spadin

          Oh. I didn’t know about that. I haven’t tried to see if it works in an extension yet though. Extensions are generally blocked from accessing anything with an opera:// URL.

  • hobe

    Am I the only one who’s Opera has been getting ugly with this update (http://sdrv.ms/1aCZo9x)? Windows 8.1 it is.

    • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

      Helmut, was genau ist daran hässlich? Sieht für mich normal aus…

      What exactly got ugly?

      • hobe

        It occurs to me that the controls look somewhat different than before. Also the height of the bars is lower than before.

        • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

          That’s intended. Further optimizations of HiDPI setting.
          Controls were huge before (at least over here, 1920*1080 @ 13,3″)

          (You can switch it off by deactivating HiDPI in opera:flags)

          • hobe

            I see. That’s 11.6” here. However it’s not quite touch-friendly, which I have enabled.

          • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

            Yeah, I don’t think that touch-optimized is very optimized yet.
            If I turn it on, the Opera menu gets big, but everything else stays small.
            That’s why its hidden behind a flag and not turned on yet ;)

          • hobe

            Well, I like the big menu and context menu and such. Should such an issue be reported as bug?

          • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

            Well, I guess it’s simply not being worked on yet so it’s not really a bug, but it normally doesn’t hurt to do so.
            Right, Mateusz?

  • Bruno Machado

    Thanks!

  • RX-3200

    what is about this bug: http://i39.tinypic.com/11abwxd.jpg ?

  • Davit Babayan

    on first start Opera open speed-dial with yandex search but on second start it open with google search ..
    this bug has all versions of opera-blink

  • Inquisitor

    Still the same problem with this site:

    http://www.foododdities.com

    Looked fine in O19.0.1310, but it’s too large in O19.0.1324 and O19.0.1326

    http://files.myopera.com/Inquisitor/albums/7520472/website.jpg

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Do you have system dpi set to anything higher than 100%? Here with dpi at 100% the page looks fine but if i change it to 125% the page looks strange.

      • Inquisitor

        Thanks! Changing the dpi from 125% to 100% solved the problem! But the strange thing is that it looked all right in O19.0.1310 (and O12) at 125%!

        • Leonardo Gomes

          I think it’s a bug related to
          HiDPI support that introduced in the lastest builds.

          • Inquisitor

            I hope they resolve it, because with dpi at 100% the text on my computer is too small. :(

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Same here.

  • Pedro Costa

    I would like a straight answer, because it does seem that this will never be implemented. Will the default search engines be editable like it was in Opera Presto?

    I have asked before with no straight answer. It’s seems so easy to implement that it’s stupid not coming forward and say that this is not gonna be possible because of marketing and revenue contracts…blabla. Hiding it is worst for me at least.

    • x a

      They hesitate to implement that straight forwardly, because of security considerations. There has been malicious software specially targeting Opera installations and hijacking the default search. – So they have a valid point.

      My idea to solve the problem and consolidate the conflicting interests: Re-introduce a master password; then Opera could sign user selected default search engine settings with a user specific certificate…

      • x a

        Let me refine my proposal:

        Let Opera be the first(?) browser to provide protected settings™: Don’t use the valuable master password as I suggested above, but a protected settings™-password locking a locally generated user certificate, that can be used to sign and verify security sensitive settings like the selection of a default search engine.

        One chance for user confusion* and forgotten passwords? No. If a user forgets his password, there can always be a reset button, erasing the certificate and (in consequence) restoring built-in defaults (as signature cannot validate). The user wouldn’t lose a lot except few easily re-applicable customizations.

        __
        * certainly less confusion potential than a konami code. ^^

        • gekitsu

          i like that idea :)

        • Joshua Medeiros

          It’s a good idea in theory, but it wouldn’t really prevent a malicious program from changing it as the program could simply replace the stored public key (it has to be stored somewhere) and use its own private key to change the settings. It does make it more work, and would prevent against simple (non-malicious) installers from doing it, but it would be possible to get by.

          • x a

            You are certainly right, that isn’t really 100% secure that way. But how would you guarantee that without support from the OS, separating user accounts and access rights properly?

            Right now there are such ”attack vectors“ already: You could ;) for example patch Opera itself to nop-out signature validation on default_provider_content.json

      • pajousek

        What about just not having any default search engine? :)

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Already answered many times: it will return when they find the best way to avoid third parties from changing the default search without user’s permission.

      • gekitsu

        this may sound cynical, but to prevent malicious third parties from inserting themselves, they insert one (google) by default and disable us from deleting it? yeah.

        • http://my.opera.com/haavard/ opvard

          There needs to be a default search engine. I think that goes without saying.

          • gekitsu

            absolutely. that was not the point in question, though.

            the point is that there are more than sufficient reasons to sort google under “malicious parties.” it depends on where each user draws their lines.

            therefore, there is irony in justifying unchangeable default search engines with the attempt to keep out malicious third parties, when the unchangeable default can be classified as containing such a party.

            furthermore, the implementation of the defaults has its problems. (potentially objectionable companies present & undeleteable; wikipedia defaults to useless local variations instead of english, dito amazon, and they all hog their respective shortcuts; user-added search engines can not be set as default) not being able to change it makes the browser all the more cumbersome to use.

            if you can grab some cred/cash/whatever by delivering opera with preset suggestions, thats fine. not having ways to get completely rid of them when they dont fulfill a users needs, or get square in the way? not so much.

  • Carson Coyote

    Wow, this is the first update that didn’t delete all of my QAB favicons! :)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Oh my… What have you done with address and title bars… With HiDPI 125%, they are now smaller and more difficult to aim at. In addition, as Christoph mentioned, “g”s are cut, looking like “q”s.
    http://prntscr.com/2608v3
    Please, bring the bars’ height back, or make it an option. It should look consistent in HiDPI. Currently, it does not: address bar line looks like having an improperly small line spacing. Look at Disqus and Facebook textboxes—they all have bigger paddings, more convenient for eyes.

  • ayespy

    The Sidewise Tree Style Tab extension from Chrome Store was broken in the prior build. It works in this one. HOWEVER, selecting (or depending on settings, hovering) the extension window causes the borders of both the Opera and the extension window to begin to flicker wildly. Interesting effect. This is on Win 8.1

  • gekitsu

    nice to see the updates trickling in, but it is still far from fulfilling the needs for a browser i would actually use. (besides the bookmarks issue)

    1) the aforementioned configurable search engines. users must be able to rid each and every connection to google, yahoo, etcetera, if they so choose. (the wikipedia search shortcut not being configurable is still a pain in the rear: it automatically searches the near-useless german wikipedia for me, can not be reconfigured, and is hogging the ‘w’)
    speaking of google: forgive me if you did this and i didn’t see it, but with all the privacy hubbub around chrome/chromium and google in general, issuing a clear statement which of these concerns apply to opera via the inclusion of chromium code would be nice/wise/cool/beneficial to goodwill.

    2) the list of cookie exceptions does not work for controlling who gets to set cookies in an everyday browsing situation. in opera 12, i can set it to ask for permission for each new cookie, so i only need to manipulate exceptions when i want to change my initial vote.

    3) cant turn off browsing history, cant turn off the suggestions box underneath the address bar, cant turn off logging recently closed tabs, no ui configuration, no full url in address bar.

    4) is there a good reason for only having private windows, not private tabs? needing an additional window for a few private tabs is unnecessarily cumbersome in browsing practise.

    • BattyMarionette

      #3 is one reason I use Opera and not Chrome. This is something that really needs to be addressed.

      #4 is just odd. I can see that being very annoying. Personally, though, I just want a way to browse private 100% of the time. This is something Chrome has consistently failed to provide. Since I do not want my browsing habits being spat back out every time I or somebody else opens a new tab, again… I use Opera.

      • gekitsu

        well, how could chrome possibly qualify for anything close to privacy? its a google product after all. chrome is a data funnel. the browsing experience is the carrot dangling from the stick.

  • http://abbe98.github.io/ Albin Larsson

    “Tab” to Cycle forward through page elements is working really bad. From a accessibility perspective thats awful :-(

    • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik

      What do you mean?
      Have you tried disabling/enabling “Pressing Tab on a webpage highlights all links, as well as form fields” in the settings?

      • http://abbe98.github.io/ Albin Larsson

        Haven’t tried that but it’s enabled… Chrome and Firefox does it so much better…

        • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik

          If you disable that setting TAB will only cycle through form elements like Opera-Presto.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Just out of curiosity, I’ve tried to use Tab for navigation. On this page, Opera cycles through visible links and input controls in the post area and the menu, and never goes to the comment section, possibly because it’s within an iframe. Don’t know if it’s a bug or it was done intentionally. Anyway, this behaviour is different from that of IE, which cycles through all links.

      • Vux777

        another thing considering iframe
        page scrolling is limited to very small amount (couple of lines)
        when page is zoomed 150% and mouse is over Disqus comments
        I need to pull it out of Disqus area to scroll a page

        edit: well..the last line sounded kinda kinky
        no, I’m not flasher :)

  • Paweł K.

    your work bothers me. that’s probably half a year and there still is no bookmarks. you could do an extension to the opera. I feel that I have to stop using that shit

  • Joshua Medeiros

    Is there any plan to allow showing of the full URL? That is by far the most bothersome aspect of the new Opera.

    I would also like to know if there are any plans to re-implement private tabs as having 2 separate windows to simply login to the same site twice (which I do frequently when developing) is cumbersome.

  • Paweł K.

    Mateusz Madaj czy możesz powiedzieć kiedy opera w końcu odzyska funkcjonalność obsługi zakładek? to już jest naprawdę irytujące że tyle czasu zespół programistów nie jest w stanie opracować chociażby dodatku (rozszerzenia) które obsługiwałoby zakładki i byłoby po problemie. czy naprawdę nowa opera jest skazana na bycie tak gównianą przeglądarką jaką jest obecnie?

    • senna_4ever

      english, please

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      “Matthew Madaj can you tell when opera finally regains functionality support for bookmarks? It is really annoying that so much time team of programmers is not able to develop even if the addon (extension) that support bookmarks, and would be the problem. is there really a new opera is doomed to being so shitty browser that is out?”

      It wasn’t worth translating — just the usual whining.

      Bookmarks are already available in the QAB. Other feature will be out when they’re ready.

      Here’s hoping for a Translate menu some time too (~_ ~)

      • Dmitry Kirin

        I added Google Translate as a search engine. In the Russian local settings, we have a standard (non-removable) Translate option, but it points to the local Yandex engine which translates from only a limited number of languages.

        • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

          How do you get the text to be pasted to Google Translate?

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Create a custom search engine in Opera with the url,
            http://translate.google.ru/#auto/ru/%s

            Replace ‘ru’ with your target language. The main trick is to use the source language #auto, then you don’t have to create multiple search engine definitions for each language.

          • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

            Thanks.

            That’s working fine now.

          • L33t4opera

            Good tip, thanks Dmitry ;-)

        • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

          The original replies seem to have gone missing.

          To add the search engine use:

          http://translate.google.co.uk/#auto/en/%s

      • Paweł K.

        so you should leave it in the Polish language lol because Matthew Madasj understands this language, it was a question ONLY to him

        thanks for the text where is still no answer for my question :)

        • L33t4opera

          Guys, no offense, that I address this to the attention, but Mateusz’s surename is Madej, not “Madaj”.

          • Paweł K.

            this is very important answer in this case, thanks!! hahaha

          • L33t4opera

            You’re welcome.
            In that case I must agree with Pesala: “It wasn’t worth translating — just the usual whining.
            By the way: “All comments must be in English“.

          • Paweł K.

            oh please…stop. hahaha, just stop telling me what to do. Your responses are completely worthless because they do not respond to my question ;)
            Besides – as you can see in my post. question was to a specific person, and I have no idea why you and anyone else answer my question. if you can give advice, you should also be able to read and understand ;)

          • http://my.opera.com/haavard/ opvard

            They are correct, though. Please speak English here. If you need to contact someone privately, this is unfortunately not the right place.

          • L33t4opera

            You’re welcome.
            In that case I must agree with Pesala:
            It wasn’t worth translating — just the usual whining.
            By the way: “All comments must be in English“.

          • Paweł K.

            Oh please … stop. please stop telling me what to do.
            Your answers are worthless because they do not respond to my question ;)
            Besides – as you can see in my post. question was to a specific person, and I have no idea why you and anyone else answer my question. if you can give advice, you should also be able to read and understand;)

          • Paweł K.

            oh please … stop. please stop telling me what to do hahahayour answers are worthless because they do not respond to my question;)
            Besides – as you can see in my post. question was to a specific person, and I have no idea why you and anyone else answer my question. if you can give advice, you should also be able to read and understand;)

    • reesmichael1

      You mean like this?

      https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/bookmarks-manager/

      It’s a bookmarks extension directly from Opera Software. I understand that, like many extensions, it may not be ideal, but you can’t claim that they couldn’t even develop an extension that supports bookmarks when they did.

      • Miskkie

        The funny thing is that was a rushjob by a 3rd party and opera just released it. So yes in fact you can claim they couldn’t even develop an extension.

        • reesmichael1

          I don’t want to delve into a ridiculously off topic discussion here, so I’ll leave it at this. Is that extension a catch-all solution? Absolutely not. Was it a rush job by a 3rd party? Absolutely. However, the OP’s point seemed to be that Opera doesn’t care about things like bookmarks, which isn’t the case at all, and I was trying to show that they did provide a temporary solution while they work on a built in implementation. Like many others here, I’m eagerly looking forward to whatever Opera has in store for bookmarks–after all, many different employees have suggested that a fully-fledged bookmarks manager will come in time.

  • Paweł K.

    where are those damn bookmarks!!?

  • Quantal

    Why are the tabs too big? Not related to this specific version but.. pic related
    http://i.minus.com/j3gVuR7UMZusH.png

    • pasegros

      In these times of widescreen monitors(16:9) vertical space is extremely important, ie, there is a lack of vertical space and excess of horizontal space, so I thing that QAB is waste of precious and useful space for each page on the internet. It is for this and other reasons I don’t like Chrome.

      • taneli

        While at the subject of vertical space, when opera is in windowed mode, there’s plenty of room at the top next to the Opera menu button, imho tabs could go there just like in fullscreen mode, or atleast put the page title in there next to the lonely button.

  • Springer

    When i try and open a folder from the QAB/Bookmarks Bar, and choose to ‘Open all in a new window’ – only the first bookmark from within the folder opens in a new window, the rest open in the current window…
    This also happened for me in 19.0.1324.0.

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      Confirmed.

  • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

    Try to sign Magnus Carlsen up to the Opera Team!

    • blackcoder

      Can he write some decent lines of code? :D

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Please add the option Show image to the image context menu, as in O12. It saves time if some images have not been loaded. Currently, the only way is to refresh the entire page.

    • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik

      Or open image in new tab.

    • ahoj1234

      I asked for this a few months ago… and again a few weeks ago… So yes.. and I used to use it even when the image was loaded – just to check its name… dunno why but I miss that kind of info too.

    • http://an-dz.weebly.com/ An_dz

      It should have the “Reload Image” option, as well as “Reload Image in Full Quality” when in Off-Road Mode.

  • Paweł Rumian

    Saying about winter are you hinting at feature freeze? :)

  • kapsi

    I want to recommend Opera but with Youtube broken it’s pretty much useless. Please make Opera play H.264, AAC and MP3 formats.

  • SebBot

    Is there any chance you could fix the download manager to resume incomplete downloads(downloads that are stopped coz of some network error or insufficient speed)? I really miss being able to do this in Opera 12.

    • Shion

      “we’re thinking about download improvements at the moment.” they said. But in reality they cannot do anything about core features, especially if it would branch too far from chromium, as it would make it a major pain to uphold in later development. So Im pretty sure, they just wait for core chromium developers to come up with something. I mean I’ve been complaining about how stupid download manager is since Presto was replaced by ChrOpera. 19th is here already, and almost nothing has changed.

      • blackcoder

        They don’t have to wait until some other developers do this. They are already contributing to chromium and blink.

        • Vux777

          butt…will “G” team implement “O” solutions?
          …permanently in their engine

        • Shion

          They do? So why download manager is still so retarded? Why does it still take away tab’s keyboard controls? I pointed it out long time ago. Like at least 3 months ago. They made a patch that bypasses the problem in some cases, but the problem itself is still there, completly ignored. What kind of contribution is that?

          I know Martin Kadlec made an awesome extension called Smart RSS. I know ralphtice made Hover Free extension. And a lot more people contributed via extensions. Their work convinced me to give new Opera a try. But what did the devteam do? It’s not like I’m saying they did absolutely nothing, but I really don’t see anything besides Chrome being renamed to Opera and few badly mutated Presto’s features coming back.

          Please, do tell me about their useful contribution, because I definetly fail at noticing it.

      • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

        Well, I asked them to look into chrome.downloads API and they promised to do so… That’s another option…

    • Vux777

      did you try enabling flag
      opera://flags/#enable-download-resumption ?

      I’m sorry if this is trivial, I don’t have experience with that particular problem (using JDownloadr for bigger downloads)
      I just know that there is a flag in experiments that “should” do the thing you are asking

  • Dark Magician

    So I guess It’s going to Next channel next week?

    • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

      Probably. And Opera 20 Dev around the corner :)

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Probably not. They said they are going to a seminar or something like that so i guess Opera 19 will be moved to Next in the week of december 1st.

  • fckdisqs

    Could you reveal what are the technical (I hope) reasons for not enabling us to change the default search engine?
    Are you planning to develop feature of customising keyboard shortcuts?
    Are you planning to include the possibility of disabling Speed Dial altogether?

    • pasegros

      For the first question, the technical reasons is when they find the best way to avoid third parties from changing the default search without user’s permission. (copyright by Leonardo Gomes :-P)

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Yes, it’s the week of the conspiracy theories. :)

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Conspiracy theories can grow on any soil, but they do it better if there are indeed some doubts concerning malware intervention to Opera installation. And doubts there are: extensions stored in user appdata folder and, therefore, accessible for modification by malware… database files… Imagine running an SQLite query to update all addresses in Stash to malicious sites. Now I understand why SQL Server installer tightens the security on its master data folder. :)
          P.S. All we talk about is built-in search engines, instead of profile data… They must be distracting our attention from that problem, omg, it’s a conspiracy! :)

          • Shion

            Come on, they are just being lazy and try to cover it. Badly.

      • fckdisqs

        Yeah… It is very plausible… ;) Not because they don’t want us to change it. Only because they are concerned with our safety…

    • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik
  • dim

    crash on every page, no HA related, several releases back now
    win7 x64

    • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

      Try using a clean install. Sounds like your profile somehow got messed up…

      • dim

        clean portable install every time
        no other installations sitting around

        every page crashes for me in chrome canary also

        but no problem with the stable versions of both browsers

        strange…

        • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

          You should file a Chromium bug then if you didn’t already.
          code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/

  • Dark Magician

    If you can, increase server bandwidth. Update is painfully slow.

  • Dark Magician

    Former QAB is not really what bookmarks need to be. It is useful, but not complete. It’s better organized the old way. Bookmarsk bar should be used only for favorite bookmarks, also it would be useful to show RSS (yes, bring it back).

    • Shion

      Smart RSS and RSS Detector are the extensions you need.

      • Dark Magician

        Point being: I don’t want extension for it.

        • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

          RSS feeds are in the email client, where they belong.

        • Shion

          They have almost all of Presto’s RSS reader functionality. Why do you need it being an internal feature?

          • Dark Magician

            Because things are just better integrated.

          • Douglas Ryan

            Having to replicate functionality via extension can results in a less stable, less secure browser.

  • Andrei Robert

    The only reason what i use Opera it was encrypted passwords.
    Now all browsers web are useless.
    Opera was the best since was implemented encrypted passwords.
    I hope in version 20 to be implemented again that function to use again Opera.
    I don’t like at all Mozilla or Chrome.
    May be have a lot o problems with other sites but i’d like to have that thing back.
    The first reason of opera users was passwords protection and opera do it well till opera 15.
    Let’s describe a little about that function:
    In Chrome everyone can see your password.If yo go to toilette and someone enter in your room can see your passwords, easy and simple(like in Opera now).
    Mozilla have master password but it is annoying because it ask master password every time when you try to log in or enter in a forum, for example, even when page is loading.
    In Opera was other life.If everyone can enter on a forum they can see your password at all, so they can change later your passwords from i don’t know forum or mail, or etc.
    That was the reason to use Opera.
    I’d cry for that thing.

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      Previous Opera gave a false illusion of security. Anyone could just copy your wand.dat to a USB and view your passwords at their leisure using Opera PassView.

      If you want security, implement proper measures. Just to go to the toilet, lock your Windows Account, and enter your password to unlock it when you return.

      Being able to see passwords is for your own convenience. It is not a security issue at all. If someone’s looking over your shoulder they are not shown unless you want them to be.

      • pasegros

        Just an observation: to know that the “wand.dat” file contains your encrypted passwords, to know how find this file, and know also that “Opera Pass View” decrypts this file, you need to be a geek/expert in PC. In the current Chrome / Opera any ordinary person(my son, my wife) can just go in “settings” and see my passwords in plain text.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          They would need to know how to do it.

          And if someone has access to your computer and to your account, then your computer security is zero.

          • pasegros

            If my son or my wife has acces to my PC I don’t care. I don’t want they have acces to my PASSWORDS.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Sorry but it seems that you didn’t undestand: an unlocked computer is a unsecure computer. And always will be.

            If you want your data, no matter which one, protected from others, you should take the precautions and not wait others to do that.

          • pasegros

            I think it wouldn’t be difficult for Opera encrypt passwords, because an unlocked browser is a unsecure browser too. For example, If you are in a mall using your notebook with Opera open and a robber steals from you, he will have access to all your passwords easily.

          • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

            I wonder how secure Windows 7 is? Presumably it is if you use a long, and hard to guess password to log-on, but that’s not much fun. I bet a thief can break in to any average user’s account in five minutes.

            I install Opera with the USB option on a TrueCrypt virtual drive using a secure password. Any sensitive data is stored on the same drive.

            I really would not want a thief contacting all of my supporters and trying to scam them.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            And how many roobers know Opera and how to see the passwords?

          • Tams80

            Applying this logic, there is no need for the requirement for a secure way to change search engines that the dev team keep on mentioning.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Totally different cases. Changing the default serach engine does not require physical acess to the computer.

      • puffmanblowman

        Very insightful, know-it-all Pesala!

        Oh, wait, PassView say that:

        ————————-
        Known Limitations
        Currently, OperaPassView canNOT decrypt the passwords and they are encrypted by using the MASTER password.
        ————————-

      • x a

        Previous Opera gave a false illusion of security. Anyone could just copy your wand.dat to a USB and view your passwords at their leisure using Opera PassView.

        That is only true as long as the user didn’t use a master password.

        Using that, the passwords in wand.dat get encrypted using a certificate locked by that master password. So first you had to copy that certificate, either (not too difficult, as its location is easy to guess and confirm). Then brute force the master pw.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Passwords are encrypted, you can’t even use them on another computer or with another user by copying the file.

      For some one to see your passwords, he would need to have access to your computer, to your username and password and know how to view the passwords in Opera 15+.

  • Dark Magician

    Auto-reloading of pages is missing, and was very useful sometimes.

  • Onaj Tamo

    Many little penguins will be happy if you give them a Linux version for Christmas!

    • pasegros

      I am posting now from my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and my little penguin(Ubuntu) will be happy also if this happens.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      There won’t be a Linux version before March, so ask again when autumn/spring comes.

    • Vux777

      hardly
      Daniel wrote the other day that Linux version will come in about 3 months (probably more) …

      • Onaj Tamo

        Finally some info.

  • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

    A lot of images do have visual artifacts in this build (lower part is shifted, wrong colors, completely black parts)

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Didn’t notice it. Do you have a few examples?

      • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

        a lot of sites, e.g. Amazon: http://goo.gl/ayF8HV

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Well, image seem to be fine here.

          Do you use off-road mode? Any extension?

          • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

            Never used OffRoad (just enabled and disabled it again to verify and noticed, that enabling it opens a help page at anchor offroad, but shows keyboard / mouse navigation instructions)

            8 extensions over here. However, disabling them all and restarting Opera didn’t solve this issue.

          • PetFish

            I too am having the same issue.
            Win 7 64bit

          • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

            Thanks for confirming this issue. Win 8.1 x64 over here

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Never saw anything like that. If it’s reproducible, I’d advise posting a link to such a page, so devs could test it on the faulty images.

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Thought I captured the bug on the page, http://grey-croco.livejournal.com/972511.html : http://prntscr.com/26epvx
            Saving the corrupted image to a file gave me a good file, identical to what’s retrieved with wget. The bug persisted while I refreshed the page, with/without clearing the cache, but completely disappeared after I tried opening the image in a new tab. Now the page looks as it should.

    • NoName

      Confirmed on Win8 as well.
      It seem to mostly happen on images that are later added to the DOM.

      • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

        Yes, I second this impression. Looks like it’s an issue of loading them dynamically.

    • Ghirahim

      Same here.

  • Licentia

    Quit changing your version number and change your browser, because it sucks. Sweet Jesus, where the f@#k is the real Opera development team? This isn’t innovation or unique, it’s sad. Opera is now nothing more than a cheap rip-off of Chrome.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    A little bug which I never saw with previous builds: When writing a comment on Facebook, text is redrawn incorrectly, lines sliding a bit and being redrawn properly under the moving cursor. Maybe it’s a bug of Facebook though. I’ve got no idea what sort of markup could possibly lead to an effect like that.
    http://prntscr.com/26bde6 —on this pic, I move the cursor to the right, and the line is redrawn a bit higher than it was before.

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Bug or feature?

    I have around 30 tabs open. Then I open a webcam link in a new window (not tab). => http://www.swr3.de/studiocam-beta/. After that I go back to my 30 tabs and circle a little around. When I close Opera now, the main window with all the tabs is closed, but the separate window stays open. Ups! I close it also. When I now restart Opera, all my tabs are gone. It opens with a simple speed dial page. The only (and very good!) chance for me is to open a speed dial folder with all my tabs saved as speed dial group. IF I did that before.

    Is that a wanted feature?

    • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

      No, it’s DNA-7151. It was fixed, but reappeared about 2 builds ago :/

  • rafaeljvieira

    I’ve just updated my Opera Dev version and I think I’m experiencing an issue with Discover. No matter the source of the news, or the language, the pictures aren’t right.

    Screenshot: https://cld.pt/dl/thumb/2aa1c077-4f5b-46ba-8da3-33691b4cb816/Nova%20imagem%20%2818%29.bmp?crop=false&size=xl

    • pasegros

      The same for me. Very weird…
      Opera 18 Stable – Win 7 x64

      • rafaeljvieira

        Now that you mention it, it also happens to me on Opera 18 Stable.

        Win 8 x86.

    • WB

      Yes, Discover is buggy now.

  • Christian Wallrich

    Google Drive (Google Docs):
    I want print a “xls”- File, but: It only saves as a “pdf”- File.

    • pasegros

      The same for me.
      Opera 18 stable – Win 7 x64

  • Dark Magician

    There is another down side, which I don’t know if it can be helped (because of Chromium).
    Is insane memory usage, might be memory leak too.

    • Shion

      That’s because each tab is a separate process (grab SysInternals Process Explorer from Microsoft and see for yourself), which takes somewhere around 20-50mb of RAM. Somewhat helps make Opera stable (crash of one page doesn’t affect others), but in case of MANY tabs this only makes things worse: lots of head-process freezes and major CPU, RAM and swap usage (gotta have 6-8Gb of RAM onboard to avoid it).

      Presto was able to open like 100 picture tabs and take less than 1Gb of RAM. ChrOpera takes 4Gb with only 30.

      There was a command line parameter for Opera to work as a single process, but since 17th Opera doesn’t start with it anymore. And there were people who asked for it to become standard accessible feature (not the command line one).

      “We care”. Makes you think.

      • Dark Magician

        I know that. Firefox is the last single process browser on the market (and one for plug-ins). IE, Chrome and now Opera all multi.

        But still is too much. I have only 4GB of RAM, and Opera is killing me with usage. Cant handle even ten tabs, and four extensions. I get almost out of RAM…

        • guest6768

          Same here. I ve tried Opera 15 on my laptop with 2GB RAM and with 10 tabs I got the message about how I needed to close programs or otherwise it would crash. Uninstalled it instantly.
          Thank you Opera, thank you so much for choosing the chromium engine! You are so clever! *Applause*

          • knuthf

            Get rid of the play-technology and install Linux or get a Mac. That MS never knew how to write an OS should not bother Opera now that so many use proper operating systems.

    • pasegros

      I have experienced low-level messages of memory from my PC(4 GB RAM) when I use quite Opera, especially when I watch embed videos of several sites. It seems leak of memory because with another browsers this doesn’t happen.

  • helsten2

    Small bug?
    If you open opera:stash, the page is displayed left aligned without theme.

    Request: Would be nice to be able to reorder the stash items

    • Carson Coyote

      Yep, both of these bugs happen to me, as well. In 18 Stable, too.
      Win7 x64

  • Dark Magician

    thepiratebay.sx opens tabs, which should be blocked.

  • Björn Löfman

    Tab cycle (ctrl+tab) should jump to previous tab not just the one to the right of the current one. same as pre Chromium versions of Opera.

    • ahoj1234

      opera://flags/#activation-order-tab-cycling

      • Björn Löfman

        thanks!

  • Vux777

    render bug

    when I open couple of tabs with middle mouse click (in bg)

    and after a while switch to them for the first time, whole page is rendered white

    until I make some action on it (usually click or mouse scroll)

    and then, page content suddenly appear

    this happens randomly on any kind of pages (FB, blogs, heavy media sites…) and in latest 19 build (this one) is frequent

    win7 x64

    • NoName

      Confirmed on Win8.
      It also happen from time to time on the older version, but it’s quite common now.

  • senna_4ever

    a question: when the opera:flags features could become normal features of the browser?

    • Dark Magician

      When they become ready.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      When they are stable enough, i guess. And also when they think it would be relevant and necessary.

      • senna_4ever

        I ask myself because… the mht feature , for example. It’s working very well, at least here. The only justify I see to it doesn’t come as normal feature for now is because this is considered “irrevelant” for the Desktop Team, at least for now

        • L33t4opera

          I think, that this function will remain as it is, because you can only use either the “save as mhtml”, or the “save as html” at the same time, not both functions at once. However, if you would like to use both of them alternatively, then you can:
          1. Disable the “save as mhtml” under “opera:flags”,
          2. Create a new shortcut to the “launcher.exe” file, and add the command line switch “- save-page-as-mhtml”.
          After that, you can run the Opera, using the first, or second shortcut, depending on whether you would like save webpages in html, or mhtml.

    • L33t4opera

      “Developer stream is where the features are born, and next stream is where they are killed (you can resurrect them in opera:flags). Only the features that survive QA’s massacre hit final, so the ones that are added to Next at the beginning of new-number-next cycle.”
      blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/11/opera-17-wins-macworld-editors-choice/#comment-1125133263

  • ANTI GOOGLI

    Still using opera 12.. Windows 8.1 HA and Webgl forced..Works like a charm

    • Kurt Zon

      so?

      • ANTI GOOGLI

        its better than this crap

        • Ghirahim

          Quality post. Now logout and go away.

        • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

          Ten guest votes. The troll either still has some friends, or is frantically trying to promote his own post.

          • ANTI GOOGLI

            Why troll? because I am saying the truth? This is just a chrome version. Security flaws everywhere… Opera 12 is a decent browser, and use some blocklists, and your sites incompabilities go away! Speed? Is this new opera faster than Version 12? No. In fact in my laptop,This opera version (19) takes a lot of time to load and requires lots of disk usage compared to Version 12, andin version 12 I have Tons of sites on speed dial. Even 1080p videos on youtube, works better, no stream lags… Even facebook is running very smoothly on This version 12. This is a Joke! Opera giving this version to its users I Think is a shame! How many already switch to another Browser? I used to hate FF .. and because of this version of Opera I started using Firefox Aurora, and it is far more usable than this. And not so heavy. So im using Opera 12 and Firefox Aurora. Also have opera 19 installed to check for new stuff but is always the same. And I wont even talk on mobile platforms… Opera classic rape’s new Opera version ass by a mile…. And in slow devices the difference is INSANE!. Just because my previous comments seemed rude , it does not mean that they are false at all.

  • pajousek

    Am I the only one for who the Synchronization logs out all the time? :/

    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      I’m getting that too. It just won’t log me in.

    • Piotr

      No, I am also experiencing this.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Happens here too, i need to login everytime.

    • ayespy

      In 18 (which is what I’m running most of the time right now, because 19 has problems with vertical tab extension), it not only logs me out, but when I go to log in, I get a page in what looks like Thai text.

    • BK

      We are tracking this issue as SYNC-368. Thanks for report.

  • UMaster 7

    an option to only show exact results (captial letters) in in-site search would be great ;)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    A difference in rendering: in the Google+ webpart on the right, the name is shown as “Oper…” instead of Opera. This occurs in this build and the latest Next, with or without HiDPI, and remains with zooming. Internet Explorer shows it correctly. http://imgur.com/RI2Q2V1

  • madre

    In Opera 17 and 18 Adblock Plus can’t save any new settings.
    – Add a new filter. (Or change any settings.)
    – Close and open Opera.
    – The settings you changed are gone.
    In Opera 16, Adblock Plus work fine.

    • BK

      We can’t reproduce it, anyone else have the issue?

      • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

        It seems it is saving but not work with O18.

        Pls try adds on top and right side in following page.

        http://forum.donanimhaber.com

      • Emanuele

        yes, I reported the problem some time ago in the ABP forum too and they replied it’s a Chrom* bug. I’ve the problem on one of my two PC only. (every change in options or add/remove filter rules is removed after restart)

    • pasegros

      Confirmed, I can’t delete a filter, random problems.
      Opera 18 stable.

  • IllusionMH

    Looks like alert and prompt message boxes are detached now. Strange, because resasons to attach it was security.
    But stiil whole page isn’t grayed out :(

  • Franciszek Baranowski

    How long I must wait for re-implement old Opera functions? I want to disable UI animations (every of them!), i want F2 shortcut back, i want to make my own keyboard shortcuts, I want to set “plugins on click” but can disable it for specific websites, I want to set “redraw after…” parameter, I want to create my own toolbar with buttons and shortcuts to my favourites websites, I want to have good download manager under separate tab, I want detailed info about speed/nb of images/etc. at the bottom of page and probably more things from oryginal Opera. I was waiting back when version 15 was released, then 16, then 17, then 18. Now is version 19 and almost nothing old functionality is implemented. Still this looks like some beta pre-release 15th version. So my question is really serious, if you can tell me – how long I’ll wait for re-write missing functionality that makes Opear unique? Now Firefox looks (after configuration) more like Opera than new Opera.

    • bruce lawson

      Hi – we won’t be re-implementing all of those; we said when Opera 15 was launched that we won’t clone Opera 12. More customisation and better download handling is on the roadmap.

      • Emanuele

        better download handling

        Hope that this include

        1 – the old “open/save dialog” with %TEMP% folder support for opened files;

        2 – option to disable or move in other place the stupid button ballon (it annoys me a lot using InoReader because it hides buttons of the InoReader interface >> usability problem )

        3 – remove saved images from the list of downloads (serious: why did you add them here?)

        4 – a simple button to have a more compact list in the download manager… I don’t see why my 21″ monitor should show me only few files and force me to scroll the page… since it’s now only a web page add this simple CSS/JS feature: compact view/full view … a simple button at the top to solve the problem

        More customisation

        Hallelujah!!!

        • RX-3200

          3 – if you download imeges
          why should they not be in the list of downloads?
          it is quite normal that the downloaded images are displayed in the list of downloads

          better to let users choose themselves what they want or do not want to see on this list using filters and/or settings

          • Dmitry Kirin

            I think it’s just an intuitive expectation: when you save a link target as file, you expect it to take some time to be downloaded; when, however, you save an image, it is most probably already downloaded and displayed, so you don’t consider it a ‘download task.’ At least, that’s what confused me when I first encountered it in O15.

          • Emanuele

            as Dmitry Kirin said, when I save an image I’m not downloading it. It should go in the download list only if I click on a image link and select “save linked obeject…” (I suppose… I don’t know if it’s well translated)

          • Dmitry Kirin

            The only special case here is when an image is in fact not loaded, or partially loaded. Then, indeed, saving it would require some download-like activity. O12 does exactly that: a ready image is just saved, a non-ready one becomes a download task. But, honestly, the trash in the download list does not bother me much. What I’d like more is a quick image saving, upon some Shift+…+Click.

          • Shion

            CTRL+Click it is.

          • Dmitry Kirin

            No, Ctrl+Click opens link in background tab and does nothing on just image. Ideally, there would be a combination to silently save a link target and a combination to silently save image (even if it’s a link). This is clearly just another case when keyboard shortcut customisation would help.

            BTW, there’s a bug:
            Ctrl+Click on a Disqus avatar pic here starts some activity, the tab icon starts spinning. If I press Esc to interrupt it, the activity stops, but after that, text can’t be selected on the page and links do not work. For example, Disqus notification popup “One new message above” appears, but isn’t clickable. Anyone confirms?

          • RX-3200

            all that you see in the browser window is the downloaded

            did you save an image from the cache or not from the cache does not matter – the main thing that it has been downloaded and that you can fast access it from the list of downloads to your storage media
            (about functionality that can be added later there yet will not talk)

          • Shion

            The grand collision of a word “downloads” definitions.

            Stubborn side: is has been downloaded, thus should be in downloads list if you saved is manually.

            Pros: anythin that was downloaded AND saved is in the list and can be accessed via it.

            Cons: if lots of stuff being downloaded AND saved – list becomes stuffed and becomes hard to navigate. Popup shows only limited amount of last downloads, so to start something from a big list requires “2 clicks, scroll/search input, 1 click” to start it.

            Usability side: it has been cached, so must not be in the downloads list, cuz nothing is being downloaded when saved manually, just copied.

            Pros: While lacking definite logic, it actually works out fine, as it keeps list clean and does not create any discomfort, as anything other than pictures or cached documents actually being downloaded and thus would show up in downloads list.

            Cons: you cannot “fast-open” stuff from downloads list, because it’s not there.

            P.S. I actually dont care about “faststart” from downloads list, because I start all downloaded stuff via another software. Downloads list is badly designed anyway, as it requires scrolling with only 5 items on 1080 screen.

        • bruce lawson

          “3 – remove saved images from the list of downloads (serious: why did you add them here?)”

          .. because images that you save are, by definition, downloaded (rather than temporarily stored in the browser cache).

          • Emanuele

            In that case, if you don’t want remove them from the list, you’ve to absolutely shut up the stupid ballon because for people like me that have to save lot of (loaded) images while browsing, it’s really a pain in the ass.

            And give at least option to don’t show them in the list (filters or something similar)

          • bruce lawson

            I disagree with hiding downloaded images from the list of downloads as a default, but I’ll add a filter to the list of potential download enhancements. Feels quite niche, though.

          • Emanuele

            good, but please consider also the problem with the annoying ballon… this is very important to me

          • Shion

            Second that. That ballon is annoying, because it TAKES FOCUS AND CONTROLS FROM CURRENT TAB. Presto used tray baloons for that and it was smart.

          • Shion

            You just too stuck on Chrome’s download logic. It’s download engine (or whatever) does not work with cache at all(?), while Presto had cache and downloads combined, thus not downloading same stuff twice and NOT showing in download panel anything that is already have been downloaded.
            Quite simple logic actually. Usefull and traffic-saving.

          • Cqoicebordel

            No they are not a download :
            You want to save an image you already downloaded and is currently stored in the cache. You don’t want to re-download the image. So the image must not appear in the download list.

          • Shion

            The problem is, that images ARE being DOWNLOADED most of the times even if they are ALREADY CACHED. Current cache usage logic is even worse than Presto’s. While FireFox one is still the best (it even works fine with stuff loaded via flash).

          • Cqoicebordel

            Sorry for the double post, but I have a better way of defining it :
            If you don’t need a network for it to work (once the page is loaded of course), it shouldn’t be in the download list.

            In the case of images, you can see here that it’s a save function, not a download.

        • Michael A. Puls II

          “3 – remove saved images from the list of downloads”

          If you get all technical and everything, you can see why they’d be considered downloads. But, there’s a not a whole lot of use in being technical if it’s super annoying. So, +1 for an option/filter that removes saved images from the list.

      • Franciszek Baranowski

        I’m not talking about cloning Opera. I’m talking about few options like CUSTOMIZATION (keys mostly!), simply URL small window @ F2 button (is this THAT difficult to make?) and rest of things I wrote about. If I remember good, someone promised that Opera functions will be back in time (just not all of them). So far I see no difference between Opera 15 and Opera 19. Sorry.

        Come on! You don’t want to clone Opera 12, but you clone Chrome? At least add something that makes Opera different, because for now Opera = Chrome. The same minimal interface and the same lack of options. Even stupid user toolbars can change this Opera into DIFFERENT browser than Chrome.

        But – you can always made some skins for Chrome and call it Opera – will be easiest way.

      • http://my.opera.com/christoph142 Christoph142

        Please make sure to include support for chrome.downloads API, too (I know that I already told you over @ dev team blog, but I wanted to be on the safe side :P)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    I just discovered that Alt+Click on a link saves its target as a file. Pages are saved as HTML only. That’s a brilliant feature! It would be great to have a similar combination to save images (just img, not linked to).
    The only issue here is that, when Alt+Click runs the download, it still opens the main menu, upon Alt key up. Please, fix it; it shouldn’t open it.

  • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

    Anyone else seeing broken images being loaded on sites like reddit? Example: http://i.imgur.com/CK2PAeF.jpg

  • pajousek

    Also, in this update, pdf.js crashes a lot. :(

    Anyone else experiencing this?

    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      I can confirm this. It crashes consistently every single time.

      • bruce lawson

        thanks for the report

  • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

    Ok. so this bug is happening again. I’m not sure if it’s just my computer being a jerk though. Can anyone else confirm:

    Visit a site
    Add it to the top level of the QAB
    Middle-click it to open in a new tab
    Quickly, before the tab finished loading, drag it off into it’s’s own window
    Resize the window

    [Windows 8.1 : http://i.imgur.com/aAdAt2l.png ]

  • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

    Will we see a new buil this week?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Probably not.

      • BK

        Seminar, the one about customer satisfaction, is taking place this week;)

        • Shion

          Why do you need a seminar for something that already have a solution – “bring back Presto’s features without your chromed logic”?

        • Dark Magician

          No point in seminar, we are right here.
          You would do more for our satisfaction, with a new build, than telling us to wait, so you’d learn how to please us.

          • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik

            LOL

        • AwS

          sorry to say… but i agree with Shion here..

          opera’s customer satisfaction is at an all time low i rate.. except on iOS… but the poor iOS folks get shafted anyways so they used to sub par programs

          android opera.. hmm isnt THAT bad but its a far cry from previous versions..

          desktop opera… is really… strange.. the company has all this awesome tech behind (presto based opera) it then it releases this “rapid release” of nothing’ness

  • Nestor Alvarado

    I have a SSD for windows 7, the “cache” is killing mi SSD. I can’t move the cache to other disk. There is a “command line” for the direct access but when other app launch Opera developer, the cache back to my SSD. why “y u no” add an visual option to change definitely the location of the cache?

    • https://ashus.ashus.net/ Ashus

      I have to use the command line argument to redirect it to ramdisk and revoked all Cache folder privileges in case Opera is not launched by shortcut.

      • Nestor Alvarado

        ho! yes is working for me too. i’m in my work place right now, tonight, i will do the same in my house, in my SSD disc xD BTW OPERA Y U NO let change cache location easily LOL

  • Dark Magician

    Latest Next build when playing this video http://vimeo.com/79010983,
    has CPU spike, and also causes avast to spike up, making CPU usage 100%, and video not playing smoothly.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      About 50% cpu use here but the video seems to be playing well.

      • pasegros

        Firefox play with a cpu usage of 15-18%…

      • Dmitry Kirin

        Same here, O19 consumes ~45% CPU, divided approximately equally between the tab, GPU, and Flash threads. IE eats 7%.

  • James

    Random crashes everywhere! I swear to god.

    • ahoj1234

      confirmed… there is a lot of random crashes… (approximately once a 2 hours)

      actually my last experience: I got a nasty crash loop… respectively reproducible crash but after Opera killed all my opened tabs (including lazy tabs!!) etc… it just stops to be reproducible.
      it was about pasting a text (from Skype) to the address bar field and “ctrl+a” afterwards to select it.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Not happening here. Any special situations that may lead to the crashes?

  • pajousek

    Ok, another thing.

    I use ThinkPad EDGE E130 with Windows 8 and latest TrackPoint drivers. When using the TrackPoint scrolling over selectbox, the focus from select box and selection goes away.

    This does not happen in other browsers, so I’m not sure if it’s Opera/Chromium’s fault or Synaptics fault?

    Also, does this happen to anyone else?

  • Marco

    I really loved the old Presto Opera.
    But I also agreed the switch to Webkit/Blink because I saw that there wasn’t an alternative for that.
    After 4 releases I’m disappointed. The rapid release circle seems to be not more than Chromium updates.
    Speeddial is much worse than before (I have to scroll to see all my 20 entries … speed?), bookmark handling is still in a condition, that the developers don’t dare to release it.
    There are little improvements in tab handling, but non in customizing.
    And a Linux build? I don’t expect it before Opera 30 … if at all.

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala
    • ANTI GOOGLI

      Thats why i say this version is crap. Opera 12 ,Firefox aurora, are the browsers i use. Actually, lately I only use Firefox where specific extensions are required ( like online movies … ). I have this opera 19 version installed but is heavy and not usable, lots of flaws.

      • knuthf

        Maybe the problem is that they try to impose Mac features in Windows (well, Linux, including Android has the same). Version 12 is impossible on Mac, 19 runs like greased lightening.

        • ANTI GOOGLI

          At least, some good news..

          • knuthf

            .. until you load the add-ons, like AdBlock. But until then, Opera processes manage to get 200% CPU which is pretty good on a dual-core. My bad news is that this load cause heating problems, and bluntly never has so much non-sense code been executed, most adverts and new tabs. But I miss the add-ons, bookmarks, sessions and notes.

    • BK

      No worries, next week we will deliver new build, you will have some new set of bugs and crashes. New features will follow too.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        So you mean we’ll have Opera 20?

        • BK

          Next week we should have O19 Next, O20 dev will follow.

      • guest6768

        When will you release a version that is not a memory hog like Opera 15-19?

        • BK

          I wish I could say “next week”. This is not as simple as one would like it to be.
          Tabs hibernation is probably the best thing you can look forward which should ease resources consumption.

          • Emanuele

            with hibernation you loose all the updates and interactive features of the opened tabs… I don’t think that this solution is suitable with the modern web…

          • knuthf

            “Hibernation” may be the wrong word – but the other browsers keep the hidden tabs “inactive” and change just the one you see – but force a “reload” when you change tab. (e.g. Safari) Why not make a control panel where you can choose? – stop the processes that is a nuisance, and let the other just run. Why do this is the main code, and not as an add-on? I keep “Activity Monitor” in the background so I can see which tabs cause a racket – and kill them – “Hibernate”. E.g. place a border on a tab that use more than 10% CPU – press the boarder, to “hibernate” or “stop the racket”.

            The ability to stop things from happening in the background is definitely needed in the modern WEB.

          • guest6768

            Thanks for your answer. Are you saying that the good performance memory wise until Opera 12 was due to that particular feature, tab hibernation? So it is a matter of time until you implement it into the browser? Please say so because right now all versions from O15 and forth ares unusable to me, they kill my laptop. And let me remind you that your previous version had mail integrated in it and still the footprint was insanely smaller.

    • Smithers_Jones

      I think the plan wasn’t to have a flat speed dial with 20 entries, but have folders of entries. You might be able to group those 20 into 5 groups and have LESS scrolling.

    • Charles Broam
      • Leonardo Gomes

        Please do not spam.

        • Charles Broam

          It’s not SPAM. SPAM is irrelevant to the topic. This is on topic.

          Marco said, ” And a Linux build? I don’t expect it before Opera 30 … if at all.”

          This petition gets results. Otherwise, Opera End Users will see the Opera for Linux build as VAPORWARE, which currently it still is. You promise some software, then don’t deliver — that’s the definition of vaporware.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Yes, its spam. When you post the same thing lots of times just to try to get attetion to your, sorry to say, unnecessary petition, it’s just spam.

          • Charles Broam

            So Opera for Linux is “unnecessary”, then? OKAY!

            Glad we cleared that up. Guess Opera is DEAD to me after all.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Not Opera for Linux but your petition as it ask for something that is already happening.

          • Charles Broam

            This is called “The squeaky wheel gets the grease” situation. The more people sign the petition, the more that Opera Developers & Designers know that Linux users are an important group. We really should not have been kept waiting so long.

            IT IS TIME TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED! Will the Linux users ALL RISE!

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Well, you can call it whatever you want but it still be spam.

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      Yes, Speed Dial should work without any scrolling to be useful, and folders are Slow Dial unless you use them like a session and open all of them at once.

      To fit more speed dials, just zoom out (using the scrollwheel or the menu). I have 30 speed dials at 67% zoom on my 1280×1024 monitor in Opera 18, and 30 at 75% zoom in Opera 19 with six columns and no Google search engine.

      • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

        Pesala, yes I am doing the same but it is not certain solution.Becouse if we can do this, another problems occurs on stash and discovery pages. For example, %70 zoom is affecting them and so small :(

        Maybe different zoom position can be produvtive for stash, speed dial and discovery but I am not sure if it is possible..

  • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

    When using arrow keys and menu keyboard button to select an incorrectly spelled word, the drop-down doesn’t show any spelling corrections. However, if you right-click it, it shows the corrections at the top of the lists. Anyone else seeing this?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Yes.

  • Inquisitor

    More YouTube troubles:

    Whenever I click on a Youtube video thumbnail, and ‘Error’ message appears, and when the video starts, the video control buttons are missing:

    http://files.myopera.com/Inquisitor/albums/7520472/youtube-1.jpg

    http://files.myopera.com/Inquisitor/albums/7520472/youtube-2.jpg

  • senna_4ever

    i can’t download nothing from filepost.com

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Some links to test?

  • Charles Broam
    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      Linux opera is coming. It’s been said before. Although there will be a wait of a few months.
      That aside, I’d be interested to see the opensourcing of presto, I’m not sure it’s being used anymore (I may be wrong, it may be being used in mini, i’m not entirely sure).

      • Charles Broam

        It’s been said that it is PLANNED. Development for Opera on Linux has not been even started. They have not even created the Linux version of the stand alone email application.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          There is a chance that the standalone e-mail client will stay the way it is, so developing a “new” version may not be worthwhile.

          And the development of Opera for linux is happening, they just don’t have anything that can be shown to the public yet,

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Opening of Presto source code is not going to happen in a near future, they are still developing products based on Presto.

    • BK

      Seems for now you need some more advertising, but I’m sure you will find support.

      • Charles Broam

        it’s called word of mouth.

      • bgh251f2

        Not really if you see that some people, myself included, already gave up ad are using Firefox and/or Chrome and have no plans to ever return to Opera unless you guys make something really, really, really awesome(Which I don’t think you’re capable of).

        I’ve already given up on every company that makes a product inferior for Linux than for other platforms(like Skype) or take a amount of time that would make any business that I’m unusable to make it. If I relied on Opera I would be stuck with the almost unusable version 12.16 or I would have to change anyway, and as a business I simply would not even try Opera again, if the company simply ignored me as a user they can’t have my support, and I can’t simply bother to care for it at all.

    • Leonardo Gomes
    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      Your petition is false. They are developing a Linux version, but it will take time.

      http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/11/opera-18-landed/#comment-1132645881

  • Charles Broam

    Could the developers answer this question:
    Why did you make the new Opera Icon (for the Opera browser) look so plain, where the older one looked so much more suave and fancy. You actually made it look plain. Instead of improvement, you made it look cheap and shabby. WHY?

    • BK

      Developers do not invent the design and interactions. Designers do invent it. At Opera it’s UxG department.
      As to the icon, depends on your taste. Current icon is driven by “metro design”, similar changes can be visible across leading OS’es, including Windows, Mac, Android and iOS, as well as on many web pages.

      • IllusionMH

        BTW Will we get different colors of menu icon for Stable, Next, Dev?

      • Vux777

        Featherweight design was very nice. They should make something similar to new Opera

        • Emanuele

          I totally agree… Featherweight is one of the better design Opera had ever created… hope to see something like it very soon (and I like also the idea of FF Australis about the background tabs… merging of the two is to me a fatality combo :D )

  • Charles Broam

    2 things that I don’t understand:
    1)No Opera for Linux when we already have Chrome & Chromuim.
    2)Why we don’t have bookmarks, when Chrome DOES have them? Does Chromium not have them either (I’ve got Chrome)?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Opera is not Chrome, so there is no sense in what your are talking about.
      And about bookmarks, enable the bookmarks bar. May not be the best and/or final solution but it

      • Charles Broam

        Would if i could enable the bookmarks bar, but I’m on a Linux machine currently. :P

        So naturally I’m using Google Chrome instead of OPERA. Just keep letting things slip further and further…

      • Charles Broam

        It’s the Blink Engine. Then an Opera overlay should not be that hard. Months away? REALLY? Really? C’mon!

        • Leonardo Gomes

          And what’s the point? Just because Opera uses Blink it needs to have the same features? It doesn’t even use the same Blink.

          And afaik even Opera Presto took a while to have a linux version so i guess the same is happening for Opera Blink.

          It’s not Opera’s fault that things are easier with Windows and Mac.

        • http://my.opera.com/haavard/ opvard

          Opera is not Chrome or Chromium. Opera is just built on top of Chromium, but we have our own user interface. That takes time and resources to develop.

  • TheXerox

    How about giving us the Menu bar, and title bar back? While you’re at it, give us the option to turn off tabbed browsing and using the address bar to search. A return to the drop down address bar of old (where it showed URLs we had typed in there in the past) would also be nice as I need that feature for my job.

    If I wanted this stripped and locked down browser then I would have downloaded Chrome. You guys used to be cool and gave us choices to customize the browser for individual use, when did you all start wearing straightjackets?

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Most probably, this has already been reported:
    Sometimes, address bar responds to input a bit strange. Instead of forwarding the text typed in to the default search engine, it opens a url from history, matching some initial fragment of the text. The most hilarious example was when I needed some clipart, searched for “Mickey Mouse picture”, and, after pressing Enter, found myself at microsoft.com. :)

    • Emanuele

      Yes I’ve this problem from the first release, but I suppose it has been already reported since it’s very annoying

      • BK

        We are working on fixes to this problem. Some updates should be available in dev stream in about a week.

  • 真木 修

    Hello. When rounded-corner tab will get back? Why I cannot delete space above tabs while normal window state?

    • L33t4opera

      Regarding “space above tabs”:
      O-Menu->”Settings”(Alt+P)->User interface->
      “Disable tab bar’s top spacing when browser window is maximized”
      – tick the checkbox on the left.

      • 真木 修

        Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I would like to delete space while window is “not maximized”.

        And I also hope “encoding” menu for site. Currently many Japanese pages (there are not charset tag) cannot decode correctly.

    • kabforks

      If you’re on W7, you’ll have rounded corners. If you’re on W8, they are square. Depends on OS.

  • Christian

    I used Opera since version 6. I understand the move from Presto to Chromium, and I understand that it takes time. But there are a few features I really need:
    – Bookmarks
    – Notes
    – Very customizable UI
    – Tab Stacking

    Please implement them ASAP – I will wait until version 22, otherwise I’ll have to say goodbye Opera.

    If you need to free up more developer time: Just drop the useless ‘Discover’ and ‘Stash’ (Tab vault extension is much better than stash).

    Good luck!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Bookmarks is under development, there is already the bookmark bar, which is a part of it.

      Notes hardly will come back, you may start thinking about some extension to replace it.

      They are working on tabs handling but i don’t know if tab stack will come back; they’ve said that it may not come back or, at least, not soon.

      • senna_4ever

        notes sould back after the main features, as tabs handling and bookmarks. i wait for.

        • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

          Don’t bother waiting, it won’t come back. Use an extension.

          http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2013/10/07/opera-17-final?startidx=0#comment112604542

          • ryofurue

            Do (can) an extension share its data through Opera link? O12’s notes were excellent because they were always available to me whichever computer I used because they are shared by Opera Link.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            At the moment you can’t sync extensions or their data using Opera Sync/Link but they said once that it may happen in the future.

            There is a (Chrome) extension called Linked Notes that “backups” your notes on Google Bookmarks so you can have them everywhere.

          • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

            too bad they should have made priority 1 they know better how to make a good note for Opera…..

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Discover is a final development and I use it.

      What makes you think it takes developer time to keep it?

  • IllusionMH

    Only I have problems with Ctrl + Shift + V (Paste as plain text) shortcut?

    Always works as Paste and go :(
    This is known bug or supposed behaviour? Shoul I report it?

    • ahoj1234

      confirmed.
      It really works as “paste and go” in all situations.
      anyway, if you feel that it’s a bug or that it should work (or worked) better, just report it. They will sort it, don’t bother :D

      • http://my.opera.com/rafaelluik Rafael Luik

        This is DNA-10527. cc/ @IllusionMH:disqus

        • IllusionMH

          Thanks

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    Dropdown arrow and status bar please!!!!

  • ahoj1234

    ฏ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ (◔ д◔) ค้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ฏ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ (◔ д◔) ค้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ฏ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ (◔ д◔) ค้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ฏ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ (◔ д◔) ค้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ..

    is it intended? can you see these tall symbols? I don’t like that…

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I can see the same symbols as on your screenshot, but without those scary W-shaped trail glitches. In Word, the characters look a bit different—see the vowel/superscript marks. The Russian “д” ([d]) looks suspicious with Thai characters; maybe there should be some other symbol, e.g. some arrow or other Windgings-like thing.
      http://prntscr.com/27jdkg

    • Vux777

      this is my email notification from disqus
      http://prntscr.com/27jfu1

      at first I was WTF?!?
      …and still I am :)
      here on forum it’s just one line

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I copied the phrase to a text file (UTF-8). There are 2830 bytes. Doesn’t look like a live speech. :) Looks more like someone has been adding too many widthless modifier marks, which you see as trails across page. It’s like adding a superscript to a superscript to a superscript, … .

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Er… WTF is going on with comments? Where’s mine and Vux777’s?! O_o

      • Vux777

        lol
        still here
        you probably followed link from mail
        it does not show all the comments for particular thread

        • Dmitry Kirin

          No, I even cleared cache and restarted Opera. Looks OK now… :)

          • ahoj1234

            yeah, this is a little bit out of this topic but I’m experiencing it as well. Though, it had started today… maybe it’s a “happy hour” (I’m talking about a traffic)

  • senna_4ever

    a thing i noted: when you use control + D for a page you has added using this method, opens a windows showing you have this bookmark already, but when I click on “+” button, it is ignored and this creates a new bookmark entry.

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    “Could not load plugins: Foile not found”

    I can not open the videos on http://www.swr3.de/info/nachrichten/Die-rotierende-Eisscheibe/-/id=47428/did=2493254/hhokee/index.html and http://www.dasding.de/tuebingen/Balingens-teuerste-Lache/-/id=601226/nid=601226/did=805584/1oy8oyl/index.html#!http://www.dasding.de/tuebingen/Balingens-teuerste-Lache/-/id=601226/vv=content/nid=601226/did=805584/goa7ms/index.html in Opera 19.0.1326.0. In Google Chrome and in Firefox it works normally. Adobe Flash Player (32-Bit) 11.9.900.152 Plug-In is installed and is shown in opera://plugins.

    • Kurt Zon

      these videos open ok here
      same flash plugin
      win 8.1 pro

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Ah, ok, it is something that Adblock blocks. Thank you.

        • Kurt Zon

          you’re welcome – glad you found the source of your problem :)

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Yes, and again I found out, that the standard filter lists of Adblock or Adblock Plus are not good. Sometimes they filter too much and cause problems. The best filter lists (for Europeans) are the ones you see on http://www.fanboy.co.nz behind the button “Main Lists”. You can open the menu and copy the links. When pasting them into “Your own filter lists” in the settings you simply have to shorten the link (like “abp:subscribe?location=” and “&title=…” and to unselect the standard filter settings above like “Adblock Standard”, “Easylist” and so on. Then the world is perfect. :-)

  • Vux777

    Can someone pls tell how to set cookies in settings (block third party…..)

    so that Disqus works here?

    if I set it like this
    http://prntscr.com/27ovhl
    it doesn’t work.
    Only if I put whole “disqus.com” in exception I can comment here, but that’s not the point. I don’t want to allow Disqus on ALL pages, just this one (or where I want it).
    The whole blocking third party cookies in new Opera sucks big time.

    • x a

      Putting [*.]disqus.com into the exception list and then using an extension blocking all third-party-cookie traffic from sites other than blogs.opera.com would do the job (if you really don’t want to use disqus as a logged in user anywhere other than here).

      I made a quick and dirty stub extension (seems to work for me) you can check out, if you like.

      • Vux777

        hi Xa

        yes, your extension does what is made for
        but…. :)
        for instance, on this site http://gadgeterija.tportal.hr/2013/11/30/kinezi-u-napadu-gionee-elife-e7-koristi-najmocniji-mobilni-procesor-na-svijetu
        I can’t no longer comment with Disqus. I have to disable your extension.

        I’ve been using Ghostery so far, but Ghostery blocks whole Disqus frame (comments are not visible) and if I unblock it (for particular site) I’m automatically logged/tracked.
        (no, I’m not paranoid :P )
        That’s when “block third party cookies and site data” is not checked.
        If it is, I can read comments but can’t log in.
        If I make exception (disqus.com), It’s like I didn’t block it at all.
        pointless….just running in circle

        I understand that third party cookies are big thing lately in IT, and many developers (Mozilla, Google, MS…) are working on them, but in this form it sucks. And from what I read about it, nothing better on the horizon.
        Why can’t they just make some sort of container where users will stash their social cookies, and allow them when needed per site session.
        It’s not like there is millions of them. In my case Facebook and Disqus. Other users would have maybe G+ and/or Twitter, but thats about it.
        So when I visit some site, I’m anonymous to it and to social/commenting system without breaking the site functionality. And if I want to comment, I allow it for that visit or permanently for that site…

        I thought that Ghostery works that way, but it doesn’t. It’s either completely allowed or blocked , so you can’t read comments anonymously.

        well, that was long… ๏̯͡๏

        • x a

          This update of the extension is easily adoptable for specific needs. To be usable for everyday users, it requirred a suitable configuration page.

          You can tweak it to your needs in line 154 of background.js… I’ve already added tportal.hrY there for you,.

          • Vux777

            wow thanx

            just for the record, I wasn’t complaining about your extension, but overall browser policy
            To be usable for everyday users, it requirred a suitable configuration page.

            great!
            you should create some UI popup for unblocking cookies, probably predefined stuff for facebook, Disqus, Twitter….
            but you probably working on something like that

            just a tip for the others if interested:
            -check “block third party cookies and site data”
            -make an exception “disqus.com” (it allows it globally)
            -use Xa’s extension (edited) for sites where you wish to be allowed
            …so you basically allowing Disqus ONLY on sites you want to, and blocking it on the rest of them together with all other crap
            It seems like the same thing Ghostery and Disconect does, but it’s not!!…

          • Vux777

            I think it breaks Disqus functionality.
            I’ve made couple of comments here, and none of them shown (here or on my dashboard)
            Only when I disabled your extension, I was able to comment

  • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

    1. What happened to the Access Keys on the menu?
    2. Can we get a Quick Preferences Menu?
    3. Why won’t WAV files play? http://www.softerviews.org/AIM/pali.html
    4. Please fix the pagedown/pageup so that it scrolls by a full screen http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1328132

    • Emanuele

      4 : I don’t like it too, but it has a rational since lot of sites (like wordpress, or FB if I recall right) nowadays use fixed toolbar at top/bottom of the page that hide some line of text…

      • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

        It is irrational to design the browser to work on a handful of social media sites if that breaks the expected behaviour on every other web site out there.

        Not everyone uses FaceBook or WordPress. Some use the Internet for something worthwhile.

        • Emanuele

          yes, I agree… I was only highlighting that it isn’t a bug or a senseless behavior, but a precise choice to target that kind of sites … and since O15+ is intended to the average user I suppose that they prefer this “wrong” design instead of the logic one

  • s/ash

    Now Opera has Chromium’s checkerboard bug too:
    http://i.imgur.com/Lm98Bcn.png

    Also, opera://flags/#enable-smooth-scrolling does not work at all. :(

  • pureocean

    As of V18, support can copy address field text includes protocol.
    CTRL+C working. But CTRL X can’t include protocol prefix.
    Chrome support the key.

    (Related DNA-12251, DNA-11092, DNA-12069 ?)

    *

    if manually select a URL non-hyperlink, after clicked to Go to website rom context menu, open webpage in the current tab. As for Chrome open as new tab.

    *

    A suggestion: at least, you could add support a flag/setting “show full URL”.

  • async2013

    Just a quick message to the developers. Due to lack of linux support and more importantly lack of development information for linux I am now moving to Firefox having been an Opera fan for years.

    • reesmichael1

      What information do you want?

      Do you want to know if it’s being worked on? Check. This has been said many, many times.

      Do you want to know when it will be released? Check. It won’t be out for three months at least, according to Daniel here: http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/11/opera-18-landed/#comment-1132645881

      • async2013

        Doesnt matter already changed my browser and not missing Opera one little bit. I have lost interest in Opera watching these blogs, total mess and I used to be a massive fan.

      • Łukasz Darzki

        So we can say developers of this bleeding edge webkit browser, thanks to dropping old engine got huge amount of time that can be used on rapidly bringing new features to the users, needs about 12 months to prepare linux version of engine that is already working on linux for a few years. But there is a reason for that. In the meantime win/mac users will get a vast amount of features, such as draggable tabs, (soon, after 6 months) bookmarks, option to change background image (called themes, yay!), ability to change default search engine in from engine provider (Google) to whatever you want! And more coming! And did I mention syncing using external providers that store your data outside the EU? No? Ops… Don’ read this sentence.

        You need features in browser? Why! We are giving you extensions made by random people! It does a 50% of what you expect (and used in v12), so why not to use it?

        But still, a date is a something.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Well, on almost every single post there are comments asking for Linux and there are answers about it. Just do a quick search.

      Btw, threaten about changing Opera for other browser will not make things change or happens quicker or in a different way. It’s just childness and waste of time.

      • async2013

        You start bleeding users you WILL be forced to change things. NO concrete details of the linux version. Saying it is being done and wont be out for at least 3 months is NOT anything concrete. AS for childish? The linux version has had no new version for waaaay too long I am just stating what I and plenty of other users, according to posts, are feeling. You may bleed users to other browsers with the fiasco that is Opera > 13.
        Show me concrete information on the Linux version, beta versions? Nah didnt think so

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Well, the info is that and it’s 100% conccrete no matter if you like it or not. They can’t create info just because you want.

          When they are close to a public release of a linux version, they probably will bring more info.

          • bgh251f2

            *whenif would be more appropriate, the last post that mentioned a Linux build was months ago and the absence of information on posts could simply mean: Oh we forgot about it, lets says it is a few months away so they can shut up until then and later we can say it was canceled or say that we said it would get about that time and stall a little more.

            The information is not concrete, there is no screen, no status update, no saying what is the problem, they only says that it is hard and will take time and nothing more.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            If there isn’t any info since then it’s because there wasn’t nothing new to be said.

            As i said, they can’t create info just because some people want.

      • bgh251f2

        I don’t think it as threat, can you use Opera 12.16 and access sites like internet banking or Mega? Not, so you don’t have option, changing your browser is fundamental, and as you get used to another browser, why would you return to Opera? The amount of communication? Get information only trough a comment(which means that if people were not asking they would simply be silent) or a post every six or more months is not really a lot of communication.

        • http://my.opera.com/haavard/ opvard

          You always had to use another browser to access Mega, even before Opera 15 was launched. Nothing has really changed in that regard.

          • bgh251f2

            But I could use(and practically only used) Internet banking on Opera12, now I can’t even try to do it on Opera15, and Opera12 is not supported anymore.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Ii anyone wants to use another browser – and it’s everyone’s right to use whatver browser hey want – then just do it and be happy.

          Just posting comments like “if you don’t do this or that i’ll use another browser” only shows childness.

  • ryofurue

    The off-road mode doesn’t quite work. Some pages don’t load (The “wait” icon on the tab keeps spinning, spinning, . . .). When I switch the mode off and hit the reload button, the page loads right away. I’ve just downloaded O19 and hasn’t changed any settings. MacOS 10.6.8.

  • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

    Some one know if this new Opera will have or has Opera Sync with notes ? I mean it has notes or if will have notes to Sync ?

  • BK

    You might expect some next build tomorrow (or after tomorrow, if things go not so smooth).

    • Vux777

      dev 20 today?
      it was a dry week… :)

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Would be good but i don’t think it will happen.
        Maybe at the end of the week or, more orobably, next week.

      • bruce lawson

        Not sure – all our devs were at a big meeting last week. Quite a party. I mean, *meeting* .

        • Magnus Gualterio

          Hey! When can we expect Dragonfly?
          Thanks!

          • pajousek

            Honestly, I always found the Webkit Inspector a little bit better than Dragonfly; especially in the terms of speed. And it has everything I need.

            What are you missing in the Inspector?

          • Magnus Gualterio

            “And it has everything I need.”
            Dragonfly has:
            1. Cookie editor
            2. Javascript debugger:
            – you can hover on variable and it shows value.
            – you can see private variables
            3. In WebKit inspector bad color palette. It is much difficult to find with eyes what you need.
            4. Pick color from page.

            plus everything webkit inspector has

          • IllusionMH

            Dragonfly has more nice and intuitive interface, and smooth workflow(especially in editing some html).
            It has less features then Blink(Chrome)Dev Tools, but I hope that new wersion will have best from this two instruments.

    • pajousek

      Will the pdf.js thing be fixed there? Pretty please? :)

      • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

        Do you know that you can use a PDF plugin to view PDF files?

        Enable the Developer Tools, then disable the PDF plugins you don’t want to use, and enable the one that you do. Adobe Reader, Foxit, and PDF-XChange should all work OK.

        • pajousek

          Oh, neat. Thanks!

          That makes the crashing pdf.js not as big problem as I thought it could be.

      • knuthf

        I wish they could insert the “ps2pdf” in the print option, best as an “Export as PDF” as in Safari.

  • ahoj1234

    http://s15.postimg.org/44g51za49/what_a_bug.jpg
    after a crash… I saw it for a very first time but it’s not rare that my Opera crashes.
    Opera DEV build as an USB install (dirty as hell, though), w7x64

    • ahoj1234

      at least (since it’s Opera’s dialogue) it could be translated :P

  • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

    Well I use Opera only for notes but without note then it will be a simple Browser like others browsers so no point in using this new Opera…. plus Chrome Browsers engine are like 100 browser to chose from so way do ppl want use only opera for what ? If they will not add there unique features…

  • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

    If they will miss features how could I be secure of the future of the Opera products… ? Or for others ? They have said that they will not add old features so it is like you shot yourself in the head by mistake…. So good luck with this Opera… new opera will be like others browsers so no need to install it at least for now it will be a mistake…. plus the Opera extensions sucks to at least the chrome ones do not suck….

  • Tüütlüm Ohaya

    It’s just crazy how you don’t react to the problem with Youtube videos. I can say, that you lose in these days many of users.

    Why so many Youtube videos which normally have HD quality options are limited on Opera ? Please resolve this problem very quickly.

    • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

      yes opera for now sucks and they will not fix your problems quickly they do not know how to fix problems quickly they only take 1 to 2 years to add a simple feature…. so how do you think that they will fix your small problem ? plus they do not fix the big problems so easily to…
      And for now the best things is to try to resolve you own problems by yourself…. and do not count at opera to fix something fast….

    • escruting

      Yes, this is frustrating me too.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      They already said they are working on it.

      Btw, the problem seems to affect only html5 videos.

      • icetom

        how exactly only html5? I dont use html5 on my youtube account, only flash. And it is totally unreliable and just like roulette if a video works properly or not. They do work fine on IE11 and Maxthon however so its not my flashes fault.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          I mean that if you force the use of flash, the problem seems to not happens.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          I mean that if you force the use of flash, the problem seems to not happen.

          • icetom

            I only use flash and it happens all the time.
            Since several builds, not only 18stable.

            Ive never seen it use html5 on youtube – right clicking the video space always shows its using flash. Also I dont take part in the html5 beta.
            IE also uses flash for it, the problem is on Opera side.

    • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

      Hmm I have an Idea way you don’t try the last originally best Opera engine the 12.16 version with Presto engine and not this new piss of sh.t with a bad Chrome engine….. I use it for Youtube and I have no problems with it to :) and tell me how is working for you to ok ?

      • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

        Be smart an use you brain you have unlimited possibility to find other good ways to make them work 100%…. :D

  • Leonardo Gomes

    [off topic]
    There is any way to block people on Disqus?
    I mean a way to allow me to not see comments from someone.

    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      I know it’s possible for a moderator to blanket-block a user, but I don’t think it’s possible for individual users to set up an easy block list.

      However, it might be possible to write some sort of javascript or css to block a user, as each user has a unique ID number. [e.g. yours is data-user=”79779387″]

  • icetom

    This is how I want the speeddial background options.

    http://s7.directupload.net/images/131203/l8upxk8y.jpg

    I am shocked that the Maxthon team can do it, and on Opera we still have to fiddle around with creating themes instead of just selecting an image from our computer.
    Its not the only thing I am shocked about, but I just wanted to speak about the speeddial for now.

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      Is it really that hard to create a Theme?

      http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/themes-in-opera-18-and-higher/

      if it was something that had to be done frequently, I can see why it would be much better to just select an image. For something that only needs to once in a blue moon, the current system seems to be adequate.

      Selecting images for individual thumbnails, if that were possible, would be a different case. It would be something done frequently — whenever adding a new Speed Dial.

      They are working on some improvements to Themes.

      • icetom

        “Is it really that hard to create a Theme?”
        maybe not. But we are no more in the 90s.

        • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

          I am not “picking on you.” Just pointing out that it’s a low priority because people don’t usually change their background picture that often.

          • icetom

            its ok. how do you know that?
            I just wanted to give them a hint, not push them to do it right now.

          • ayespy

            One can tell because of how much discussion over it there has been in the past several years – ie, very little.

            I used to change my speed dial background every year or so. Now I don’t bother. I like to direct my attention to content, and backgrounds that differ from time to time are just a distraction. Hence, I use what the browser comes with or change it to a neutral gray and leave it.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      They are working on something similar to the old Opera Presto skins but there is no eta on when it would come to the public.

      And btw, you can use any picture as a SD background.

      • icetom

        “And btw, you can use any picture as a SD background.”
        there is only the option of creating themes on 18. Or what are you talking about? Im not wanting to create themes, but to select it directly whithout .ini /theme.

        • Nekomajin42

          Two more clicks in the theme creator. Really hard…

        • Vux777

          He was talking about this

          • icetom

            thanks, im indeed not using 19 but 18 stable. I fugured I post here because its a blog and maybe noone reads it when I post in older posts. Seems I was wrong. Still, can we also use different scaling options? Also selecting just different colors would be nice.

          • Vux777

            I’m don’t think scaling is possible.

            But there is a plenty of themes to choose from, if you like (dark, light,…)

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Well, this post is about Opera 19 so i will always assume that veryone here is using it.

          You can right click on SD > Change theme > Create Your Theme or, even better, just right click on a picture and select “use image as theme”.

          Note: You may need to enable it on opera: flags

    • http://www.aimwell.org/ Pesala

      I was also using Opera 18 more than 19, so I had forgotten about the option to use any image as a theme.

      Creating a theme is still better though, as you can use different images for SD and Settings pages like opera:flags, and you can set the position, text colour, etc.

    • DataZByteS

      While i agree, but maxthon team has different issues. Performance and stability are not great, and extensions are buggy at best.

      The feature set apart from that is solid. They seem to have started taking performance issues a bit more seriously so will see.

      • icetom

        I just tested it because some people were mentioning it here. Your right, the practically non-existant extension support lets me not really want to use it daily.

        • DataZByteS

          Yep and thing is I don’t really need much more then an adblock and greasemonkey-like thing in maxthon. There is sort of an alternative but its a little iffy and lastpass extension is unreliable at best.

          Ideally I wish or the new opera to implement click + scroll-wheel tab switching, tab stacking and tab previews and Id be happy. Themes etc are sorta in, and I never really bothered much with them.

  • Ryohei Kondo

    1. access file://test/test
    2. copy the url
    3. paste. Then the url become file://file://test/test.

  • iownthispc

    where can i cancel auto-update ?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      At the moment, you can’t.

      • Emanuele

        and maybe it never will be possible, since now you have not to handle with version number of the browser, but consider it as a sort of platform always updated for web technologies…

        Instead I’d like to see in future (when we’ll have an enough good and complete browser) to maintain an ESR version for people and business environments that need a solid experience.

    • bruce lawson

      out of interest, why do you want to?

      • Cjcr

        I’m not iownthispc, but I can tell you few examples:

        If I’m happy with a specific version, why update?

        Or why need a background process eating all my cpu/network resources when I’m working on something?

      • Nekomajin42

        It would be god to have an option which only notifies the user but does not start the download automatically. I can see the benefits of the auto-update, but I like to controll my network usage. It can be unpleasant when I work in a low bandwidth environment.
        I think, the Firefox way is good in this case.

      • Vux777

        as addition what Cjcr and Nekomajin42 said
        I like to have installation package for quick reinstall (maybe different dir, usb version etc), and if someone, like me, is on mobile broadband, double download is not very convenient

        …so the best way would be to just notify users about new version, without auto-update

      • mathman

        Out of interest, why would you think I would want auto-update?

        • bruce lawson

          So that you have the latest, most secure, stable and speedy version.

          • Nekomajin42

            Is it really that hard to build in a switch to prevent the auto-update? It may only one user of a thousand who wants to prevent the auto-update, and I don’t think it requires so much work, but these little options give confort to the users.
            I know the benefits of the auto-update, but don’t take away all the control from the users. It can be hidden behind konami code or anything else, we don’t like non-configurable browsers.

          • L33t4opera

            To disable the “auto-update” feature, add the command line switch as follows: “…launcher.exe” –disable-update.

          • Nekomajin42

            It’s OK, but I don’t want to download installers all the time. I just want to get a notification if an update is available, and a button in the About page to start the download manually. Of course, this should be optional, and the auto-update should be enabled by default.
            I don’t want to use outdated builds, but I want to choose when I want to update. And now I don’t have a choice, because I have to open the About page to check whether a new build is available, but if it is, the download starts automatically.

  • hundred.or.zero

    I’ve this feeling like i have gradually started to hate Opera, the browser I once loved so much.
    During the course of re-writing the code, you guys made considerable efferts to filter out anything that was good about Opera. Now it has become cheap imitation of Chrome. In past others used to follow you but now you are following them.

    • Fhury

      I understand you reasoning, but you could look it from a different angle: the browser you loved is no longer being developed. Opera are building a new browser more or less from scratch and (very) slowly adding features you loved.

  • MozPri

    It’s O-day! Where is the new next version? :P

  • Dovelove

    I’ll be waiting for M2 to return to Opera browser! Thanks.

    • Ice007

      Good desire…

      But this will never happen. So don´t wait for it.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I think it won’t happen. And i also think that the standalone e-mail client will not receive that much attention.

  • evilruy stf

    some videos having problem with the progress bar its not seen on the videos example youtube videos i cant see the progress bar

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It was commented before, set your system dpi to 100% and the problem will be gone.

  • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

    This build uses 25% CPU at times, can anybody confirm this?

    BTW main thread is what uses high CPU.

    i3 2100
    AMD 5750
    Windows 8.1

    Tested with:
    All extensions disabled
    GPU compositing on all pages =on, off
    Threaded Compositing =on, off

    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      What kind of cpu usage was it like before?

      • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

        There should be no CPU usage at all, since Opera was sitting idle. Even when no tabs were open.

        • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Teodor Cristian Trusca

          yes is a piss of sh.t this new Chrome engine better use the old one the Presto engine 12.16 version :P

      • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

        I had to create a new profile and its working fine now!

  • Fallon

    What else is the Stash thing than one permanent background session loaded? Okay, I have added some sites from one or two surf sessions. And that’s it then? Adding or deleting one site at a time seems a lot of work for a not very satisfying result. Maybe I don’t get it.

    Thinking about stash a bit, in fact, the lower part of Firefox’s session manager could be considered stashes. Let’s say in Opera the permanent loading of the session would be optional, or is disabled. Then it would be interesting to save single- or ALL open pages to an active stash tab. With saving MORE than one site at a time, in tabs, (or in a session list -stashes- like FF has), Stash would become a session manager. Maybe have automatic recent stash tabs ready when Opera starts up, with a maximum number. And as main course maintain stashes/tabs with names.

    Anyway, it seems useful to get to something like a session manager in the end. And also to make stash less boring than it is now.

    • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

      I agree. The idea fo a stash is nice, you have something for quick access of sites you want to come back to. But i find it easier to just use a QAB folder, call it stash, and then put stuff in there.

      doing it that was makes it easier to find sites if you have a lot of them, and you can do sub-folders.

      • bruce lawson

        Thanks – will take these ideas to the Product Managers meeting.

        • Fallon

          Well, unfortunately I only drop in occasionally with Opera, that’s why I have missed your interesting replies. Sorry about that.

    • bruce lawson

      ” it would be interesting to save single- or ALL open pages to an active stash tab.” You can right click tabs and choose “Save tabs as a speed dial group”, then they’re all saved to a speed dial .. er .. folder (dunno why we use different terminology there). Right clicking on the folder next time gives you an “open all” option

      • Nekomajin42

        We use the speed dial to store or favourite, most visited sites, and/or to add live/dynamic content with extensions. But to be effective, the tiles have to be the same place every time, so I can remember their position and click without looking for the one I want to open.
        But, if I save my sessions to the speed dial, the tiles won’t keep their position, and the whole point of the original speed dial is gone.

        Fallon’s solution would be good. The stash has potential, but in this form, I can use it to nothing. But it would be a great session manager with multiple groups. AND the ability to autosave the current session if the browser crashes.

        The O12 session manager is good. But imagine how cool it would be to display them on a nicely designed internal page with (optional) thumbnails. We just drag’n’drop the desired group to the tab bar.
        And I get that the speed dial can do this, but it has a different purpose. I mean, storing sessions is usually temporary. And it is the point of the stash too, isn’t it?

      • Vux777

        those big page previews are more distraction then benefit, and I believe that most users when using Stash make it with minimum hight (basically a list)

        In my opinion, better LIST would improve Stash (bigger font, order management, grouping, editing)
        and while improving Stash, you could make it something like Notes
        like this guy did (not to take whole Stash tab, something that could be saved fast /*heart*/, and edited with additional info)

  • Ghirahim

    Almost three weeks without snapshot. Huh.

  • Leonardo Gomes
    • Vux777

      on latest next works fine
      (don’t have dev version right now)

      • Leonardo Gomes

        It seems to be a extension causing the problem. Thanks for testing.

  • Karl Liebknecht

    Opera 19.0.1326.0 crashes on Windows 7 64bit, when Microsoft EMET 4.1 is installed and a download is attempted.

    EMET says that it has to shut down Opera because of a caller mitigation.

    Interestingly, there are no problems on Windows 8 32bit, so it’s maybe more Microsoft’s than Opera’s issue.

  • L33t4opera

    New Opera Developer 20 build: 20.0.1346.0

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Why they are always released when i’m not at home? :-P

      • L33t4opera

        I have no idea :-) but maybe just because, that they don’t know, whether you want them to release it, when you you’re at home, or in any other place ;-) :P

        • Leonardo Gomes

          They used to release the builds esrlier so i could download them before going to work. :-D

          • L33t4opera

            Such a disappointment :/ maybe next time? :)

  • Toto

    Well you’re doing shit with Opera. In the v12, that was a *different* browser. Now it’s like every other browsers.

    And Opera 12 is now obsolete, there a lot of problems with many websites.

    Thanks for having ruined everything.