Macworld Editors Choice Yesterday Opera 17 became Macworld UK’s Editors’ Choice for desktop browsers, receiving the maximum possible 5 stars!

This is the first time we have been Editors’ Choice, knocking Safari off the coveted top spot. It also follows hot on the heels of Coast winning three awards in one night!

The review notes that Opera was the fastest Mac browser, it looks pretty and they highlighted the Discover, Stash and Off-Road features as being particularly handy.

The review also spoke about our promotion of the Speed Dial as the primary way to organise favourite sites stating, “This is a somewhat bold move, although it makes a lot of sense” and later “the Bookmarks bar is still a hell of a thing to get rid of”. I think we can agree with him on this. We continue to believe that Speed Dial works best for most people but for certain use cases a bookmarks bar does make sense, which is why users will be able to optionally switch it back on in future Opera versions. It is a shame we can’t get 5.5 stars in the future, since this was the only potential downside listed in the entire review.

The Desktop team is now off to eat some well deserved cake!

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  • nanana1

    All I say is …. I’m not surprised! I’ll be surprised if it did’nt win. :p

  • RingMyDingDong

    Congratulations, Opera fully deserved this award..

    • Dark Magician

      It does not. At least not 17.

      • Actually, what you should take from this is: A browser that isn’t fully developed is still better than all the other ones out there means that Opera must have loads of potential just waiting to burst forth in future versions.

        • MadEddy

          Better than all the other ones? My opera 12 would like to have a word with you.

          • Don’t worry. I’ve not forgotten about ol’ presto. I was referring to non-opera browsers when I said that.

          • Martin Brada

            And recent, I guess. 😉

      • Martin Brada

        I am quite surprised how many people are in favor with your comment. I fully respect, that Opera 15+ might not satisfy you but disgracing someone’s work in this way is seriously pathetic.

        • A flaw of the Disqus voting system which allows anonymous guest upvotes, but no guest downvotes. 😉

          • nanana1

            Not quite, it just want to encourage users to register before expressing their down votes. I think this is a good approach.

          • Wrong, I could just upvote my own comment as a guest easily two times as a guest by refreshing the browser page. And that is what trolls on this site are probably doing all the time with their troll comments, check the popup windows of comments with many upvotes. So if Diqus wants to encourage registration, it should also ask for it when trying to upvote as a guest, otherwise it is only a bad joke.

          • nanana1

            As long as you want to up vote any comments whether as a registered user or as anonymous guest, this system encourages them. But if you want to down vote, you can only do so as a registered user. This is a pro-encouragement system which I think is good.

        • Dark Magician

          I have no intention of disgracing Opera. I’m just saying, that it’s not good enough yet.

          • Martin Brada

            No, you said that they do not deserve this success.

          • Dark Magician

            They don’t. We have a Google all over in Speed Dial.
            Makes Opera look like adware.
            You give credit, where it’s due.

          • Guest

            What has the google bar common with the subject of this discussion?

          • Martin Brada

            What does the google bar have in common with the subject of this discussion?

          • Dark Magician

            It’s the most banal thing that is wrong with current Opera.

          • Martin Brada

            I really have no clue what are you talking about. My point was that judging who deserves success or not might not sound very polite.

          • Dark Magician

            I’m not trying to be polite, and you don’t have to agree with me. That doesn’t mean I won’t say it.

            Also, I started using FF more, because I’m annoyed wit Opera for the moment. I get that it takes time, they can’t make it one day. But also don’t understand the Google ad in Speed Dial. Is that part of some agreement?

          • Martin Brada

            I am afraid that we do not understand each other.

          • Ruarí Ødegaard

            If you are tracking Developer builds you can just switch it off

          • BK

            Wait, so you talk about Opera not being finished or being adware? Both?
            You will be able to disable Google in SD (O19+).

          • Dark Magician

            Where is exactly that option located?
            I’m guessing in :flags?
            But I keep missing it, how is it called?

  • Jorge Barrera Castillo

    exelente work, congratulations from CHILE!!!

  • Congratulations.

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  • rafaeljvieira

    Congratulations. 🙂

  • pasegros

    Congratulations Opera Team. Good Job!!! From Brazil…

  • Emanuele

    • Emanuele

      -4 votes… mmh… World is a very strange place I suppose

      I just don’t understand how a simple webpage viewer with no features at all can receive 5 stars … don’t blame me if I’m so old

      • Martin Brada

        The number of features was probably not the critical point for their decission – that is the key for understanding.

      • SkyWarriorBR

        No power-users in Macworld UK…

      • If you really haven’t tried the new Opera yet and don’t know about its features, read the review. It lists some of them.

        • Emanuele

          haavard, don’t troll me please 😉

          I know very well features that the actual Opera-Chromium has, and a web page that stores some URL with a thumbnail isn’t enough, to me, for receiving 5 stars… Oh, and a proxy to browse Pirate Bay… yes, I was forgetting it 😛

          However today I was waiting a build not an attempt of flame… hope to see it tomorrow 😉

  • Ghirahim

    New Developer build today!

    • Ruarí Ødegaard

      Not today, no sorry!

      • Ghirahim

        Thanks for the reply. I can wait until next week! :3

      • Give us a sign that Opera for Linux is alive!!

  • Cryio

    Great for you guys !

  • Cryio

    Also, “wait, what ?”

    Off-Road mode allows acces to blocked sites?

    • hkeye

      Off-Road mode allows acces to some (not all) blocked sites

    • rafaeljvieira

      I believe that, when you use off-road mode, you’re detected as browsing in Norway (since Opera servers are in Norway). This means that, if a website is blocked in your country, it will be available through off-road mode IF it’s not blocked in Norway.

      (Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

      • Well, our servers are located all over the world. There are none in the U.K. so their traffic is routed elsewhere (Iceland).

        • Cryio

          You little devils. Providing hidden features.

          • Ice007

            “little”?… :p
            Opera at least is the “pirate bay” of the browser-scene!

        • s/ash

          How awesome would it be to have Off-road mode without compression? A hide-IP-like feature.

          • You could just use any public proxy service for that.

            Note that Opera Off-Road-Mode does not hide your IP-address. The original IP is included with every request in the HTTP X-Forwarded-For header. Most services, however, are too stupid to look for it.

    • Ra-Mon

      Off-Road (Turbo like) act as a proxy. So it can bypass ISP proxy or even company local proxy to see forbiden pages at job 🙂

  • hkeye

    Congratulations.

  • Kurt Zon

    Better late than never – Well done Opera, you deserve it!!!!!!

  • Onaj Tamo

    Alright,you are supposedly team leader for Linux and mac browsers.So what is the big hold up with the linux build?Why aren’t you dropping the secrecy behind the linux build?What is really going on?

    • Smithers_Jones

      What secrecy? They said it’s coming….

      • Eric83

        My theory, aside from the fact that developing a browser almost from scratch takes time: Since Linux users (like me) are more likely to be power users than the typical Windows user, they want to make sure the browser has more features than it does now before they release it to us. For the time being, 12.16 works well, although increasingly less often than it did.

        • ahoj1234

          Agree. Why someone should release linux version (that’s for power users) when the same users complain because of lack of features… they first need to implement more features (and do it properly). After that they can just release the linux version… it’s nonsense to serve us another Opera’s version (linux) at the moment.

        • Onaj Tamo

          Disagree.12.16 is well past its expiration date.I am a multi booter and I occasinally boot windows just to play World of tanks,there I have Opera 17,and yes I like it.I am a power user and I say they should give us the Linux version because dissapointing power users can be bad for marketing,because power users are those who will recommend software to their friends.And this power user is pretty disappointed.I don’t care if some people’s opinion is that v17 is worse than v12.16,because v17 is still a lot better than Chrome or Firefox.

          • Onaj Tamo

            correction, v18.

          • I still use Opera 12 myself, and it is far from past its expiration date.

          • Emanuele

            me too, and hope to see (yes, I’m very optimistic 😛 ) at least new minor versions (or why not a 12.2 ? 😀 ) in the next year

          • Tiago Silva

            Me too, although I did have a scary moment when a site I depend upon started behaving badly with it. And that’s the trouble with 12.x: these kinds of issues will gradually become more and more common. I hope NuOpera evolves quickly enough to be a replacement, let’s see what the new Dev build brings along.

          • Emanuele

            generally power users like to do “dirty works” with their software

            How someone could be a “power user” of O17 (no options and you can’t even move a button in the GUI) is out of my mind… and I really hope that in future versions we could be again “power users”, customizing every aspect of the browser, editing every file in ways developers didn’t think, etc… THAT would make you (a sort of) power user, not installing and clicking on the big thumbnails O_o

        • Esat ÖZKAN

          Please don’t deceive yourself, it’s not about our perfectionism. They use their whole manpower for developing best possible product for the masses. Linux nerds -and our friends- not that much and doesn’t worth the hustle.

      • Onaj Tamo

        That secrecy.The problem is that is all they said.Not even which year will it come.I am beginning to doubt that it will come this year.Ok,it is delayed,but why is it delayed?How high on the priority list is it?I mean people asked them hundreds of questions about it but all they said was just “it’s coming!”.

  • Chas4

    I got retweeted by them, after I tweet, I am excited to see how the x64 version of Opera does (after reading the article using Opera 17)

  • pampalini

    HAHAHA ! The shittier the better ? lol

  • Jorton

    Great job done!

  • MadEddy

    Bravo google, you deserve it well, chromium is a fantastic browser.

    • dnebdal

      Key frase from the review: “as fast as chrome, but with a friendlier interface” – and he spent a fair bit talking about the interface.

    • dvfdvvf

      This remembers me when a colleague of me had to make a work project for a discipline of Computer Networks at the University. He had to make a FTP client in Java.
      His comment after he delivered it to the teacher: “The only thing I had to do was to get it from the Internet, and making its interface uglier …. XD”

  • pekikuubik

    It seems you’re dead set on putting the bookmarks on a bar I can’t hide without losing access to the bookmarks, so I hope someone will turn it into a button on the main bar with an extension. Otherwise I’m almost ready to switch, since someone was kind enough to make that awesome SmartRSS extension.

    Now if only I could turn off disk cache.

    Anyway, congrats.

    • Several extensions do that already.

    • Ruarí Ødegaard

      Try Neat Bookmarks (github version)

  • Денис

    Where is usercss?

    • x a

      You can use Stylish extension as fallback.

  • SkyWarriorBR

    For Opera 19 Macworld will need to change their rating model. If O17 is 5 stars, how many stars will O19 be?

  • x a

    Do you delete my posting (probably ’cause you think it’s not the place for that kind of discussion or whatever) without comment or is it a Disqus issue that makes my posting magically disappear?

    • Comment moderation happens according to http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/comment-policy/

      Do note that Disqus does not know Opera nor its community yet. Their spam filter is a bit over-eager on some commentators and terms. That will sort itself out over time.

      • x a

        Thanks for the explanation. Initially I didn’t believe anything but being stuck in a moderation queue – but then, Disqus not telling me that anywhere (neither in-line in this thread nor in the ”Dashboard“ thingy), my doubts grew. — Disqus and I: won’t be a love affair… ;(

      • Please enforce the policy strictly. The old blogs were unusable due to the huge proportion of off-topic posts.

        Do we really need comments about masturbation?

      • Frenzie

        Incidentally, how would one reach that link?

  • Patata Johnson

    Opera ASA: “Our userbase doesn’t seem to love Chropera that much, but hey, look here, a random mag on the interweb loves our browser… so who gives a sh!t about those Opera Presto users?”

  • Sax

    That ‘review’ is quite the thing.

    “Opera has always had one special feature over other browsers, and that’s optimised server support…”

    Also, The Pirate Bay is a key website apparently.

    • Patata Johnson

      That makes me think that Opera ASA really needs any positive feedback that much, that they don’t care where it comes from

      • BK

        Yeah, keep thinking 🙂

        • Sax

          It does seem a bit strange that you would post that on the Desktop Blog. To show those pesky critics, eh?
          But well, then you read the article and it basically says Opera 17 is fast and in the UK you can visit blocked sites (Pirate Bay) with it. Five Stars.
          It is kinda funny, seriously – as long as I don’t think about Opera pre 15.

          • BK

            That article was made by external to Opea company. We are glad to see Destkop Mac product good evaluation. It does not mean we are fully in line with what is stated in there.

            As to the access to blocked sites itself? It’s up to you what do you do with your (internet) freedom, which Opera might expand in some countries.

          • Tams80

            It’s not exactly a good publication though.

          • Ruarí Ødegaard

            Your opinion and you are entitled to it but not everyone agrees, consider the following quote from Wikipedia:
            “Published since 1984, the magazine has the largest audited circulation (both total and newsstand) of Macintosh-focused magazines in North America, more than double its nearest competitor, MacLife (formerly MacAddict).”

          • Tams80

            Also quoting from Wikipedia:

            “The Daily Mail has been awarded the National Newspaper of the Year in 1995, 1996, 1998, 2001, 2003 and 2012 by the British Press Awards”

            Yet is derided by many in the UK for being terrible and sensationalist.

            As for that Macworld review. It’s one page long (no, that second page doesn’t really counts), states some obvious facts, adds in some opinion and criticism and shows one benchmark. While the article formula is certainly a good one, it’s hardly great.

            I’ll stop now. This conversation can only go further downhill from here on.

          • Sax

            From what I know it’s done via DNS blocking, as per usual in these cases. Use OpenDNS (good idea anyway) and blocked sited aren’t an issue any more. With or without off-road.

  • BK

    For sure there are few use cases to keep URL’s. One is just something you want to use often (SD, QAB). Then, you want to keep some random stuff for later (stash?), and also you would like to keep and organize some important stuff for later (bookmarks manager). Did I miss some use case? Probably share, where you can recommend interesting URL to a friend.

    We are looking to solve all the use cases for you. Neither bookmarks bar or SD and stash in current implementation solve them perfectly.

    • ahoj1234

      well, it’s possible to improve the SD? I would like to drag pages into speed dial (not “pin” it via the speed dial icon in address bar and after that group it and change positions as I want them to be placed).

      It could be solved/provided somehow like this:
      *ctrl+dragging = dragged tab will not get active (will not be “opened”)
      *tab will be grouped in some SD group or just “pinned” there (it depends on where you will drag it – free space or some group) as an SD
      *tab will disappear from the tab bar! (it’s important – disappear…)

      after that I would like to see deeper SD grouping but I understand that there are more interesting things like tab managing and handling.

      • BK

        Yes, SD will be changed and improved in the future, it’s not stone, it’s c++, javascript and html code 😀 (I miss the emoticons too)

        Interesting. Probably just click-without-release-the-button while SD is opened might have solve your basic use case. Would it be useful? Let’s wait for some +1’s.

    • Word! So I’ll be patiently waiting for a fully fledged bookmark manager. But I have to ask again about Stash, will it be further developed as well, as it lacks some important features in my opinion like sorting, showing the URL etc.?

    • Emanuele

      I suppose that a classic bookmarks system (full manager, sidepanel, search from address bar in URLs, titles, description and tags) can solve all the problems… you don’t ? 😉

      • senna_4ever

        good one! would be perfect

    • Tams80

      Here’s how I see it.

      Speeddial – sites I regularly visit and want quick access to.
      Stash – ‘read later’, pages I don’t have time to fully read, but wish to read at a latter point.
      Bookmarks – sites I would like to go back to at some point, but do not wish to access on a daily basis.

      Bookmarks needs the most organisation, as it is something that may contain projects. Some integration with sessions perhaps?

      Sharing a list of sites I like should probably be a bit different.

      As for discover… please make it more like Flipboard.

    • senna_4ever

      just a thing: you dont think confuse, for example, if I use the SD as bookmarks, will be hard to me see my speed dial extensions

  • blackcoder

    Congratulations. 🙂

  • WB

    I… love… this… browser…. yeeeeah!

  • bwat47

    “• But then there is the use case, where you want to store a link without knowing for sure, if you ever look for it again – it would clutter speeddial and be unsearchable in QAB (unaided by extensions == bookmark functionality).”

    This sounds like a good use case for the “stash”…

    • Emanuele

      I don’t think so… when you save something in Stash you create a BIG screenshot of the page (plus much other text data), and every time you open the browser and the speed dial/stash page you’ve to reload it in memory from hard disk

      I know that people that use a modern and powerful PC (maybe with an SSD) don’t realize the big problem of this, but I can ensure you that using these things on a common PC/notebook 2-3 years old is a torture

      • bwat47

        Have you ever even used the stash? You can disable the thumbnails with the slider on the right, just slide it all the way to the top and no more thumbnails…

        screenshot: http://postimg.org/image/ttdct56jj/full/

        I also use opera on several machines, one of which is a super crappy slow desktop at work, its got a first gen core2duo, a crappy 80gb hdd thats almost full, 2gb ram, and windows 7. Haven’t had any issues with speed dial’s thumbnails loading slowly, and my speed dial page is pretty full, and the stash I use without thumbnails anyway as shown above…

        • Emanuele

          my notebook (T2370, 3GBram, 5400rpm hard disk) don’t think so 😉 … yes, maybe 2-3 years isn’t right but it is 4 years and I can’t imagine that a PC is no more usable after 4 years (even if tablet & gadgets producers want convince you that a product lifetime is 1-2 year max)

          You can also disable thumbnails for the stash

          nope… you can only HIDE them, not disable… is a totally diverse thing 😉

          however using stash as “read-me-later” is only a matter of personal preferences… For example I still don’t understand why something like that (that only a small part of users use) is built-in in the browser (there are yet lots of extensions for this simple thing) while very basic features of any common browser are demanded to external extensions… but this has been already debated so who cares…

          • bwat47

            If a simple task like saving a screenshot of a webpage brings your machine to its knees, there is something very wrong with your machine 😉

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against adding a classic bookmarks system, its something that should have been there to begin with, but I do think if one is open minded the speeddial + stash can actually work quite well on its own. My favorite opera feature was always the speeddial.

          • Emanuele

            Saving A screenshot isn’t a problem

            Saving LOTS of screenshots is a problem

            To be more clear: in my Opera 12.16 installation I’ve about 2000 bookmarks and more than 1000 notes (used as a sort of bookmarks + comments, etc) … If I try to import all this things in ChrOpera’s Speed Dial, only starting the browser and loading the SD page takes so much time that I can do a coffee break without problem… and after all is loaded the page isn’t responsive at all

            Here is it why I’d like developers to take good note of that.

          • senna_4ever

            it’s true. for me this is not a pros to use the SD as bookmarks

          • Tams80

            You also ignoring the fact that word based search requires you to know almost exactly what you are looking for.

            Saving screenshots can also be seen as bloat; depending on how many sites you add to stash. When you get to the point of searching by word, they become useless as well (and likely outdated).

  • Fallon

    About your editorial remarks.

    -1- If Speed Dial was ever anything else than ‘the primary way to organise FAVOURITE sites,’ you must have lost me during that episode.

    -2- It’s good news that users will be able to optionally switch the Bookmarks Bar back on, in future Opera versions. If it will be implemented in a screen efficient way, a list left or right, even better.

    -3- Your belief that ‘Speed Dial works best for most people but for certain use cases a bookmarks bar does make sense’ has been wrong from the start.

    I think it becomes clear when you look for comparisons of the browser experience for users. A comparison for example that a browser is like a car. When you want to switch from ‘picking-up-the-groceries-and-going-to-work’ with your car, to ‘going-to-a-sports-event-and-visiting-a-bar-in-a-neigbouring-town’ with your car, that is still not making the best use of the car. Best use is something like: being able to travel all corners of the world with speed up to Mach 1 per hour.

    A browser can visit all corners of the world with high speed. Should you build it for a ‘Speed Dial’ (not the best Speed Dial right now) or a ‘Bookmark Hotlist’ (not the best Bookmarks bar right now), and call one of these localities a big deal, or should you build the browser for all journeys users will like to make.

    For best use of the browser a user may want: ‘bookmarks’, ‘speed dial’, a ‘session manager’, tab options like minimizing (get previous tab), and synchronizing bookmarks between devices. And more, should the need arise. We are talking core browser business for users.

    Example: If a user wants to visit all museums of the world online, he should have browser options for it. If a user wants to figure out knowledge for some project, the same.

    Making Speed Dial the center of things… “a somewhat bold move (…)’? That will not do.

    We can also make a second comparison with energy. You don’t just need ‘solar’ and ‘wind’, you need the lot. A browser that does it efficient and well, wins. I’ll have my cake now.

  • Денис

    If, according your statistics, bookmarks used a few people, why are so many unhappy? So much, that you even returned them. So you were wrong.

    • BK

      Hi Deniz. You are right, statistics might be used incorrectly.
      But the whole deal with the discussion here is not about being right or wrong. It’s about Opera and improvements we can do to it. That’s why we discuss and listen. And that’s why the feedback you provide is very valuable to us.

  • danei

    Masturbation always gives some illusion.
    But when you wake up, maybe you will realize the old features will never return, so as long term users like me.

  • Adrian Dascalu

    I have problems playing files on Souncloud, exemple this, not working: https://soundcloud.com/aordisco/radio-ga-ga-virgin-magnetic
    Can you help me how to play ? Is there a trick somewhere ? (flags, plugins?)

    • pasegros

      Opera 17 stable works nice for me.

    • bwat47

      It plays fine for me in opera 18

  • Francesco De Domenico

    The cake is a lie

  • Tams80

    While Opera 17 may be deserving of an award (without bookmarks though, I don’t know how), it’s still making SO many features from Presto Opera.

    As you’re using Blink and V8 and thus don’t have to work on as much for those, then please get work on some more features.

    It doesn’t matter if they are incomplete, just get some out of the door!

  • s/ash

    Congrats OPERA! 🙂

    You deserved this more for your Presto-Opera, but anyway..

  • Денис

    Please implement “open new tab on middle click to tabbar”, because button “new tab” is too small, Its hard to get. And button “trash” please implement. And notes. Personally, I more comfortable with Firefox and Opera 12 now.

    • senna_4ever

      should take advantage the task manager and become that a tab manager with search

  • Now even Internet Explorer 11 has a side bar.
    Opera, why did you kill everything we loved about you?

    • BK

      That’s right IE has side bar, but browser does not have to be complicated to be useful. Also it might be bit awkward view, yet supporting side panel will no longer make Opera unique.
      We are looking forward for changes in the browser. What do you use side panel for?

      • Nekomajin42

        Don’t get me wrong, but I think there were several comments about the sidebar in the old blog. They want to put things onto it. Things like a bookmark tree, history list, notes… I know, notes are dropped, but the O12 sidebar was extendable. So at least give us an empty, resizable sidebar as a basis for extensions (like the speed dial tiles).
        You know, I like specific features in O12, but there is something I love even more than these features: I can put (almost) anything to (almost) anywhere. I can create the most suitable environment for myself. I don’t have to get used to anything, because I can control the interface.
        I see your point about the accidentally messed up GUI-s, but there is a perfect solution for this. Put a flag to the power user settings, which enables GUI “messing”. Then we can change button order for example, but the average user won’t notice anything. The same applies to a side panel. Make it a power user setting, and the problem is solved.

        • BK

          Right, having power user options give us more place to play. We will not hesitate to use this 🙂 Also we are looking into utilizing more wide screen monitors real estate, some form of side UI probably will appear. But currently there are more interesting/needed features to add to the browser than the presto-like customization. I guess you know what I mean?

          • Nekomajin42

            I’m not sure, but if you talk about the bookmark manager, sync, etc, then I understand that you have a busy schedule. But your communication really needs some improvement. A LOT of misunderstandings were on the old blog partially because of the fan rage, and partially because of your (plural) sometimes provocative comments. I mean, asking what we want to put onto a sidebar. Anything that can utilize that big empty space. Lots of comments were on the old blog about the benefits of a sidebar.
            And I don’t think the “Presto-like customization” is yes/no feature. It has several stages. Just an example: we can move the icons on the QAB to place them to the desired order. We’d like exactly the same with the extension buttons. It’s just a small step towards full customization, but a much needed one. Is it really difficult to implement if it already works on the bookmark toolbar?
            So it’s not about giving us the whole GUI customization package from O12. But a step-by-step strategy would be very great.

          • Emanuele

            No side-panels are planned: OK I don’t need knowing nothing more…. unti now I was still testing because your words (“Is only the first release! features and customization will come!”) gave me some hope… now you said the true: thanks

            When Opera Presto will not be usable anymore I could choose my new browser without waiting for Godot … thanks again and goodbye

          • senna_4ever

            well you saying that way i think I can stay relax about a future customization like the presto one.

          • No. I cannot guess what you mean. What do you think are interesting/needed features? Tab-stacking? Vertical Tabs? Or are you talking about Bookmarks Manager import/export, nicknames, and menu?

            There are few things more important to add than GUI customisations, mouse gestures, shortcuts, menus, and opera:buttons. Skins I can wait for, but being able to configure the browser to be more productive is vital.

      • Panels are over-rated. On 1280×1024 and default zoom of 120% (in old Opera) I need to keep it closed to maximise browsing space.
        • I use it for organising bookmarks, but that could be done just as well in a separate tab like History and Downloads tabs.
        • It’s useful for Contacts, but that doesn’t apply any longer.
        • I use it to edit notes, but that doesn’t apply any longer
        • It can be useful for watching a video while browsing. That’s really the only thing there’s no viable alternative for at the moment as there’s no tiling of tabs.

        • Emanuele

          yes, but even if you’ve to keep it closed while browsing, with the edge switcher you can easily (very easily) access all the stuff without problems… and who have larger screen can leave it always opened … it’s a matter of customization… if you can customize something there are no problems… problems arrive when someone chose for you what you need and what you don’t. 😉

          I use it to edit notes, but that doesn’t apply any longer

          Even if Opera don’t add Notes anymore, an extensible sidebar could let extensions developers to add panels in it

          Again: it’s only a matter of customization

          • senna_4ever

            i like that
            i was waiting for something like that in O12 about extensions, but a extension button to access my all ones.

            your idea is good

          • I disagree. Accessing stuff in the panels is not without problems. The web page is squeezed and page content moves out of sight when the panel is opened.

            I use a mouse gesture (GestureRight, GestureLeft) to toggle the panels, which are on the right. Putting them on the left shifts the whole page to the right which is even worse.

            For widescreen users, panels make sense to use that wasted space, but they can keep them open always.

          • Emanuele

            here I’ve to disagree too since with my workflow and habits I’ve no problems at all in opening-closing panels … but, as I said, if you can customize your browser all these discussions are useless… I want panels? I use panels … You don’t want panels? You don’t use panels

            Is there anything simpler than this? 🙂

          • Nekomajin42

            You have your opinion based on your screen size, your default zoom level and your browsing habits. But others may have bigger screens and other habits. If they implement it, you don’t have to use it.

        • BK

          Good news for you is that there are plans to support your case for watching video while browsing, although not in the same way as it was in presto.

          • Thanks but it will not be enough. This gave to user further space which they can use as whatever they want. For example I use it for notes, bookmarks and some special panels. You can also use panels for social sharing as using social mobile websites without taking extra action, space, time, etc…

            I am not sure if you have any future plans to add social sharing into browser nexts but maybe you can also consider to use panel screen for socail sharing…

        • Tams80

          ” I need to keep it closed”

          Well, that was the solution. The only way that could have been better is if it was optional to download.

      • Emanuele

        just to reply: I use the sidepanels for (ordered by importance)

        – notes
        – M2 (feed)
        – history
        – bookmarks
        – some web panels
        – Links

        Thanks again to have destroyed my loved browser …

      • Emanuele

        Oh, and don’t take it seriously, this is just for laugh 😛

        Also it might be bit awkward view, yet supporting side panel will no longer make Opera unique.
        We are looking forward for changes in the browser

        http://i.imgur.com/IVycS72.png

        • BK

          Thanks for that input. My wodring above was far from perfect 🙂

      • senna_4ever

        but sidebar is not something complicated to use
        I used the side bar as easy access for contacts, emails/feed, notes, bookmarks, windows/tab search, and add some bookmarks

        • BK

          So if we provide some side UI which allows you convinient access to tabs, windows, bookmarks, stash, you will be happy? (assuming we don’t support contacts, emails, feed, notes).

          • senna_4ever

            well, let’s think what the opera has for now and how would be a sidebar for it:

            tabs/windows managerment (search, order, pin, maybe in the future a tab stacking), bookmarks (you mean the bookmark manager or/and drag’n’drop bookmarks on it?), stash (good one BK!), history, downloads, hmmm

            yeah, i would be happier 🙂

          • Emanuele

            add to them access from extensions (so I can put new panel through an extension) and maybe not all is lost

            Since I’m seeing a window of opening from you, I repeat again the mantra: if you let us to CUSTOMIZE things you can ship your browser with the simpler defaults you can imagine, and old users could however use it without (too much) frustration

            If you force users to use things how you decide they’ve to, then you receive lots of complaints and rage

            I hope that this will be printed in a mega poster and affixed on every wall of the Desktop Team offices 😉

          • BK

            hehe, you are aware that the wish-list would be extreamly huge (at least from the development perspective), starting with NOTES, followed by 50+ M2-type other features? 🙂 And even with that we would not satisfy all the ones who hate changes. In other words, some better way needs to be found to satisfy power users 🙂

            btw, around the Desktop Team offices there is a popular poster already.. : “keep calm and carry on”

          • Nekomajin42

            Please note, that O12 is totally usable nowadays. But there will be a time when it becomes outdated. Then we will have to decide which browser we want to use.
            I have the up-to-date Dev in my PC, I love to see how it develops, but it’s not ready for me, and I’m not alone. I just hope, it will have at least some of the most important features when the time comes, because I really don’t know what to use instead of O12.
            I know that the fans, the power users are always only a smaller portion of the user base, but they are the ones creating the community, testing the beta products and spreading the world, so they have a high value. And as Emanuele says, we don’t want 50+ M2-type features. We want to be able to change the default settings to create our environment, to make the browser our own.
            It’s OK that first you want things to work at all, and it’s also OK, that you don’t want the average users to mess up the GUI by accident, but the power users are the group who can live with smaller bugs and visual problems as long as the features work. So you can say that there is a power-feature, it has some minor bugs, but it works, and we will solve them as soon as we have time. I think it’s a good compromise for a lot of us, and you don’t have to worry about it until these are hidden deep in the settings protected by woodoo spells and konami codes.

            Anyway, I’m not happy with this Disqus thing, but I like that we can communicate on this new blog like adults, unlike on the old blog.

          • Emanuele

            I totally agree. There is nothing to add to your explanation 😉

          • Theese are simple and enough things what we want to say.

          • do not bother to recreate notes if it would not be possible use the thousands i have here in opera 12, but of course you can do to others who could start using this, though i believe that nowadays nobody would use it, since most users are only normal users

          • Nekomajin42

            You know, the more I think about it, the more I realize that basicaly, Notes are only bookmarks with longer description fields.

          • Emanuele

            I use notes (for the most, but not only) as a sort of bookmarks system too… but the main difference is that I can write to the “bookmarked” URL all the notes I need, and I’m able to access them in a very fast and immediate way.

            For example, I tried using some extension for the purpose, but accessing them is far way slower and less immediate (then less productive)… I can’t have a fast panoramic of them opening a sidepanel, having to open a web page to access them, having to deal with too complicated GUI, etc…

            But yes, to me, Notes could be build on top of the bookmarks infrastructure, but have to be (to the user) a separated thing with different features and different ways to be accessed and used… but if under the hood notes are saved in a subfolder of bookmarks I don’t mind 🙂

          • Nekomajin42

            Yes, the interface should be different, but the core is the same. It saves URL – text pairs, just like every bookmark item. Of course, it could be a distinct file, but I don’t think it needs any specific implementation, just some small modifications on the bookmark file parser code.

          • Emanuele

            however the problem in this is how to handle “pure notes”, i.e. notes without correlation with URL

          • Nekomajin42

            I think you misunderstood me. The concept is the same: store an URL with attached data segments. For bookmarks, these are description, title, keyword/nickname, and for notes this is a shorter or longer text. The mechanism is exactly the same. The only question is how do you want to store the data. You can store the note in the bookmark file in an additional field, or you can store the bookmarks and the notes (URL – text pairs) separately.
            Of course, the key point is the GUI, because it’s a simple task to read/write these files. They already have the necessary code, because the browser uses several structured files for bookmarks, login data, preferences, etc.

          • Emanuele

            No, I understood you… I was just “thinking aloud” about how it could be realized… as I was a developer XD

          • i do not have only addresses in notes, 99.99% are long texts, very long texts

          • Penge

            The more you thinking about it, the more you realize that basically there are no difference between the stone ax and nowadays revolutionary, magical, awesome products.

          • ayespy

            Vertical tabs (and some day vertical visual tabs) and vertical QAB would complete the package for me. I don’t need “panels” per se – but just the ability to move QAB and tabs to the right side.

            An interesting, if awkward and resource-hogging, approach to this type of thing is the Sidewise extension for Chrome. It provides persistent vertical tabs in their own window pinned to the side of the Opera window, with integrated notes, a rich hover tooltip for each tab, a wide variety of display and control options, a “recently closed” button, etc.

            It is inferior to real vertical tabs for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it leaves top tabs in place, thus wasting space.

            I KNOW you guys can make something this good or better, and integrated within the UI, rather than pasted beside it in a separate window.

          • guest6768

            Only together with a side panel. NOTES , BOOKMARKS and HISTORY viewable in a side panel next to an active browser page are absolute functional and they should be priority #1!

            Also… did I write that you have to bring back the ******* NOTES already????

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Basically i only used the old panel for e-mail, so a penal/side UI or whatever it be called wouldn’t be very useful for me. But i don’t mind if Opera has an option to show it.

            For me (visual) tabs on the side would be more useful.

      • One thing you really should bring back is the status bar, with all the functionality attached to it.

        And I don’t care if it is a unique feature or not, the Opera implementation made it unique. It had inline search, history search, bookmarks access, Turbo on/off, Link on/off, zoom built-in…

        It didn’t made Opera complicated, it made it useful yet easy.

        • Emanuele

          Agree… I use it to put buttons like Link and Turbo indicator, the zoom and all other page features (images loading, userCSS, Adapt to screen size) , Dragonfly, and some quick access bookmarks for very frequently visited sites like Gmail or Inoreader (So I haven’t to have a bookmarks bar in my GUI, or to go to Speed Dial to open them)

          I really hope that the complete “GUI toolkit” of Opera Presto will come back, because at this day doesn’t exist NOTHING more configurable (and EASILY configurable) than it

      • The Solutor

        Then you shipped a browser with a sidepanel for 20 years w/o even knowing its function ?

        Nice joke !!

        • He asked what the other person was using the panel for, not what the panel does.

          If you continue to misrepresent people’s comments like that you may be banned.

          • Tams80

            It’s more a case of misinterpretation. You should be clearer with your communication.

            Maybe reduce the (unintentional?) baiting of commentators, that gets them all riled up.

          • It was a rather simple question. If someone is having problems understanding a question he should ask instead of attacking people.

          • The Solutor

            I’m misrepresenting nothing, what you wrote is clearly understandable by everyone.

            If you don’t like criticism (or don’t understand) some houmor) just don’t run a blog or don’t write in it, w/o the need of any help by me.

            Frankly mentioning a ban for just that is a bit disgusting behavior.

        • guest6768

          Total insanity…

      • Martin Fiala

        You know, I find it kinda sad when to use THE most useful Opera feature (from my point of view, of course, and I DO realize that’s subjective), I have to use other browsers instead of the one that originally came with the idea and made me use it and love it. Being able to use a sidebar with instant access to things like notes and such is extremely useful, which is why, after 12 years with Opera, I’ve had to switch to Firefox with Opera 15 (hating every minute spent with it), since it gave me such sidebar with notes (via addon). And sidebar’s also been quite useful for limiting the width of page space on a widescreen monitor to a more sensible aspect ratio while still being able to have the window maximized (while still having quick access to notes and other sidebar features). So, having notes in the sidebar really was a win-win situation all round.

        I’ve never been that hopeful of sidebar with notes coming back to Blink Opera, given that Chromium has exactly zero support for sidebars, but reading that such core “Opera experience” features “will no longer make Opera unique” or “there are more interesting features to add” is just sad, really. For one, I can’t help the feeling you’re trying to do “unique” things just for the sake to be unique, which is rarely wise, and second, it really makes me worry I’ll never be able to get back to Opera again since the features I feel are key to me and to Opera are apparently now considered too ordinary and unnecessary. Which is a shame – it’s 10+ years of user experience down the drain 🙁 For Opera’s sake, I really hope the new users that you seek to replace us “oldtimers” are worth it.

      • Tams80

        Wait, so you really do think going the route of having less features than the competition is the way to go?…

        The number of features was the most visible thing that make Presto Opera unique!

  • pasegros

    The time changes, the things changes, the mind also may change. My rage-posts is over. Henceforth I will try to support the efforts of the Opera Team in order to build a better browser. My apologizes Opera Desktop Team, you are a winners…;-)

  • Licentia

    Opera 17 = A poorly designed clone of Chrome.

  • PaulW

    MAC users must have a poor choice of web browsers in Opera 17 wins.

  • The Solutor

    Frankly I consider a Prize given from some Mac users a worrying confirm of the Opera decline.

    People used to consider a two mouse button a “complication” are historically used to love any unuseful HW an SW.

    So they started to like Opera just when it dropped the 90% of its functionality.

    • Fhury

      They don’t like what Opera dropped, they love what Opera did not add…

    • guest6768

      Nailed it.

  • Alex

    Thanks opera!
    But if UK Editors knew how great would you be if you return tons of great features from O12… Especially tab cycling, vertical tabs, quick settings menu… Anyway we believe you can and will return all such neat things back!

  • Wesley G

    I want Opera back, not this shell of failure wearing the logo. Bookmarks, per site settings, everything else missing.

    • Cut the crap, this is old news, and almost 3 versions ago.

      • Wesley G

        Yes old news, yet strangely current news too. When I get my good old Opera back with Opera functionality I can get off this chrome crap and get back on Opera that will have the site compatibility of chrome and the features of OPERA. I miss Opera, the stable browser that does everything on this earth that I need it to. The version 12 is unstable and crashes with too many tabs so I cannot any longer use Opera. Period.

  • Kenice

    Opera 15 was a great shift away from their prior browser. The old Opera worked and as a user for over 7 years since High School, I do miss it. I’ve promoted Opera in campus crew at college and for good reason. Opera browser is different, fast and fluid.
    Opera 16 improved on Opera 15’s flaws and Opera 17 is much more likable than the prior ones based on Chrome. Sometimes, change is hard, especially on long time fans, but the thing to note that sometimes, in order to move forward, you have to start fresh which is what I believe the Opera team is trying to do now. The product is not done yet, far from it, and they acknowledge this, using Chromium as the base frees up resources and opens up new avenues. I’m gonna go along with Opera for this ride however, my only concern is that Opera link is taking too long to be added back. I do think that the whining needs to end, as I’m sure by now, the Opera team has heard every possible kind of whining there is. It doesn’t help develop Opera or add features other than creating a negative vibe and might contribute to new users second guessing using ‘it’ since the fan base is up in arms with it. They’re gonna get there, but for now, they need us testing and what not.

    • Emanuele

      Without whining developers can’t known what you really need. The main example is bookmarks. When Opera 15 was launched they chose to not add them at all in the new browser (because they thought users don’t need them) and only after our whining they understood that users need them and need a complete bookmark system, not surrogates of it.

      And in this thread you can find another example about the sidebar and its panels. Only after our whining BK is opening his mind to the fact that there are users that need it for their work and that panels are used in so many useful ways that he didn’t even imagine. (and this was the power of Opera: you can make it and with it how and what you want)

      It’s sad, I know it, that we’ve to whine, complaint and shout, but as you can see there are no other way to let developers understand our needs.

      IMHO an open bugtracker/forum should be a better place for these things, but actually we’ve only comments on this blog

      • Ken

        I understand.

  • Володимир Васильович

    http://www.intel.com/p/ru_RU/support/detect/graphics

    no work in opera 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cjcr

    We can expect a new snapshot for today? 😛

  • iG0Lka

    Enough to celebrate – Update give! 11!

  • Unrelated question, but important: Where I should send translation errors? I found a few in the browser and in the website.

  • ahoj1234

    Any chance to change this strange behaviour?
    http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/62575.jpg
    see the URL and showed comment(s)… I would like to see whole tree (what is related to this comment) not only the comment…

  • Frederic_Moll

    please, come back to work on Presto.
    The new Opera is a trivial skin of chrome with 2,000 less functionality. You killed the world’s best browser. Compliments.

    • It’s not going to happen, so save your breath.

      More features will gradually be added to Opera 17+

      • Frederic_Moll

        it’s not true…

        • Well, yes, you’re right. No more features will be added to Opera 17 now. They were already added to Opera 18 and Opera 19, but you knew what I meant.

        • 17+ means 18, 19, etc…

    • We will not go back to Presto, and the new Opera is far more than just a skin. The user interface was made from scratch.

      • Bring back the status bar please, with all the functionality attached to it.

      • dd

        As an user, with the current interface, you can’t achieve to transmit that message to me. I believe what you said, I am a developer too, but as an USER, I can not see so much difference from the Chrome browser regarding do functionality and interface.

  • Could you please someone correct RSS comments feed error.To follow disqus is really hard and not it is getting hard like this. As I have explained before the problem is that comments RSS links is not true but email notfication by Disqus is working.

  • Jonathan MacCarthy

    Hmmmm. A prize previously given to Safari no longer seems legit. Congratulations?

    • Michael Maier

      It’s a good sign to win this prize.
      But the fact that this prize is previously given to Safari let me also think about the quality of this award.
      Now Opera won prizes for Coast and this one.
      Both on a platform which have a market share (in Europe) about 6% and whose users are not really known as computer experts.
      A prize for Linux (Linux!!) or Windows would count 100 times more.

  • Jorge Muñoz

    con someone tell me if this benchmark is fair with opera because opera seems to slowpoke:

    http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/LiteBrite/

    • MozPri

      Microsoft.com … Guess which browser has the best score haha. Nice try IE. 🙂

  • Cjcr

    Thursday and without new snapshot 🙁
    Guys, what you’re doing?

    • L33t4opera
      • Cjcr

        I really hate myself for follow what they’re doing.

        P.S: The link is broken.

      • mrg2k8

        You’re right, Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho! until the O12 features are brought back.

    • David

      That’s “rapid release cycle”.

      • Cjcr

        Maybe they’re cooking something great … something for power users ..

        • escruting

          Maybe they’re recooking something chrome already did to call it “new”.

          • Cjcr

            LOL

        • rpsgc

          Or maybe, you know, not?

          Power users are not their target audience any more.

    • BK

      We are preparing to O18 release next week.

      • Cjcr

        Thanks .. but us we want a new Opera 19 Dev build 😛

        • ahoj1234

          18, 19… 20… are just numbers. Stable(final)/Next/Dev is what’s important 🙂

          • Cjcr

            I know.

          • ahoj1234

            and I got it a moment after the post… I realize that we already have O19Dev now and not O18Dev (but O18Next)…numbers change too fast these days 🙂 so sorry for that.

          • Tiago Silva

            What’s important is to get our Presto features back.

          • ahoj1234

            indeed. We all still miss some these features. But it’s not that easy as you may know… it takes some time and some of them will never arrive back and some of them will be even more powerful when its time comes 🙂 …

          • Leonardo Gomes
        • BK

          Next week too, hopefully. With first Synchronization release working at least a bit more 🙂 And then a week of a break. Opera Desktop Team is going to have a Seminar.

          • Cjcr

            Ok, then we need to wait a bit more. Thanks for the info.

          • SkyWarriorBR

            Seminar about consumer satisfaction, I suppose? 🙂

          • BK

            Hehe 🙂 I’m not participating, will be here with you and try to support your satisfaction 😀

  • WB

    How many items can be added to Stash?
    I’m asking because after adding 50+ websites there, the older ones became invisible. They will only reappear if I delete some of them.
    Is this the normal behaviour or a bug?
    I’m using Opera 17 stable.

    • Ruarí Ødegaard

      After 50 items are added a new stash page is created. There is an arrow on the left of the first page to allow you to click down through pages. However you can also just do a search on a keyword via the search box on the top left.

      • WB

        Oh, that’s right. Now I see it.
        Very nice.
        Thanks!

      • Emanuele

        LOL … since now some users are confused by Stash you should remove it I suppose 😛

        Presto-based Opera had become overloaded with features, a number of them confusing rather than helping our users

        • WB

          haha, no, no. Don’t remove Stash. I like it.
          I didn’t see the arrow because it was too much to the left on the widescreen monitor.
          Maybe if you bring it closer to the Stash Items or change it to the right side of the screen it would be easier to find.

        • Ruarí Ødegaard

          If something is confusing or doesn’t work as expected it should be removed or improved, yes.

  • iG0Lka

    ENOUGH TO CELEBRATE!! 11!

    BATTLEFIELD 4 does not work on the opera! 11! 1

    thousands of users running on chrome! 11!

    When will the upgrade?

    • BK

      DNA-13613 – fix will arrive with the O18 release, next week that is. Sorry for the issue, it’s EA that screws Opera. We are trying to reach them so it does not happen again.

      • Tiago Silva

        Wasn’t all the trouble of leaving Presto behind precisely to avoid this kind of trouble?

        • BK

          Yes, to some degree. But, we are not Chrome clone and we have and will have our own issues and bugs.

    • Darklink88

      Is the shift button on your keyboard broken? XD

  • Kurt Zon

    I guess you will have digested the cake by now!!

  • Alex Parker

    This site:

    http://www.yad2.co.il/

    Leads to a MOBILE version when using Opera (m.yad2.co.il) instead of a normal desktop version. But it works fine in Internet Explorer. I’m assuming it’s an Opera bug then.

    Would appreciate the fix, thanks.

    P.S. Using Opera 17 Stable.

  • dd

    As it is 15 November today, and you didn’t launch anything new since 7 November, it means, you are more spending than one week making an evolution.
    Therefore, I am expecting a build that is Explosive! I mean a build that blasts on my face with a ton of new features!

    • Emanuele

      maybe the next developer build could introduce the new tab management announced time ago, or they simply are working on fixing bugs… this is not important

      What is important instead is decisions they take about what (and how) will be implemented in future versions … the time they take for the purpose is irrelevant I think

    • Michael Maier

      I suppose that we’ll see the first build with new Opera Link.

    • Smithers_Jones

      Opvard has already said on Google+ that a build with OperaLink was sent to the Elektrons yesterday, so I would guess if all goes well, we will be seeing something next week with sync. I hope personally that it will be in 18 and 19, as I think it’s sorely needed, and releasing 18 without it would be a mistake.

      • BK

        Desktop Opera development process was explained at least dozens of times already.. 😉 Developer stream is where the features are born, and next stream is where they are killed (you can resurrect them in opera:flags). Only the features that survive QA’s massacre hit final, so the ones that are added to Next at the beginning of new-number-next cycle.

        So by your definition mistake is guaranteed, as no new stuff, except critical bugfixing, will be added to O18 now.

        • Nekomajin42

          But you said earlier that O18 has all the necessary code to run sync, so when the servers finally start to work, O18 will have sync, whatever stream it is in.

          • BK

            Yes, I’ve said that. The code is really there, but recently the protocol to sync server has changed and O18 does not support these changes. You will be able to play with sync when next dev build appears.

          • Nekomajin42

            Thanks for the explanation.

          • BK

            Nekomajin42, Congrats for round, 256 comment 😉

  • Emanuele

    New bug report filled: DNA-13630

    I’ve to write here because I’ve no more notes where I can store the report for future check 😛

    • ahoj1234

      fill the “email address” field and you you can store it there 😛 (you will receive an email including the bug number). Anyway, when you are about to post it here… post it with some more info about the bug if possible 🙂

      • Emanuele

        Yes, you’re right

        DNA-13630 : history page isn’t updated while you browse, but is only a snapshot of the browser’s history at the moment you opened the tab.

        It’s inherited from Chromium and due to the fact that now we’ve only a web page and not real programming code, but I think it should be however fixed.

  • Marko Koivuniemi

    Can anyone confirm problem with spacing between minimize/restore/close -buttons and +-sign of new tab when using single monitor (laptop internal display) when Opera is installed and used with dual display system (2 external monitor in docking station). I reported bug DNA-12948 and also sent additional information but haven’t got any confirmation or even auto-reply like earlier bug reports. (I think now Opera places +-sign relation of width of display. (And it’s problematic
    now when I have only single display and Opera should use 100% width of 1 display instead of
    approximately 2/3 of 2 monitors total width.

  • Cjcr

    I found a weird issue with YouTube videos. Sometimes it plays some videos with HTML5 but others with Flash Player. It happens on Opera 19 Dev (In my computer) and even in the my sister’s computer (Opera 17 Stable). Youtube’s Html5 test is disabled on both computers.

    Windows 7 x86_64 and Windows 7 x86_32.
    Latest version of Flash Player.

    Anyone can confirm this?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I guess YT will use html5 when possible even if the user isn’t on the html5 test group.
      There are some extensions that allow you to choose if YT should use flash, html5 or anyone of both.

      • Cjcr

        Yes, that seems … thanks.

  • rpsgc

    If I try to find a word (Ctrl+F) on a page and then move to a different tab and press F3 to find that same word it does nothing because the search box is empty on other tabs.

    It’s really annoying.

    Is that a bug? Or working as intended™?

    • Working as intended, I presume.

    • rpsgc

      By the gods!

      They actually fixed/changed that in the latest 19 dev build! And the QAB was much improved.

      My faith in the Opera devs is growing.

  • jason

    How much did Opera pay to be MacWorld’s editors choice? Because we all know there’s no way in hell they would choose Opera 17 otherwise. It sucks!

  • Dark Magician

    It seams that Opera won’t play YT video above 360p on HTML5 player.
    Flash seems to work fine now.

  • Fhury

    Bookmarks… One small step for mankind… One… GIANT… leap for…

  • Summy

    That’s funny, because I mostly hear people complain about it these days. There are chromium based browser I still like more, though, like the torch browser.

  • Michael Maier

    A question concerning Disqus.

    Is it possible to show the entries sorted chronologically? Regardless if it’s a reply or not? Without that it’s difficult to see the newest comments,

    • rpsgc
      • Michael Maier

        I know.
        But … as you see, my comment is above yours, although yours is newer than mine.
        When new comments are replies, they could be anywhere.
        Can you show me the ten newest comments?

        Not without looking through all comments.

        • rpsgc

          “When new comments are replies, they could be anywhere.”

          They are not “anywhere”. They are right below the original comment, or whatever comment they are replying to. That’s what nested replies/comments are supposed to be.

          And there is nothing wrong with it.

  • inDigazzZ

    Do not abuse that blog please

    There is http://blogs.opera.com/news/ for News, right?

  • L33t4opera

    New build of Opera Developer: 19.0.1324.0

    • Fhury

      At last :), Thanks for the info!

  • nanana1

    Finally, something new to play today : Opera 19 Developer Build 1324 available.

    http://get.geo.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera-developer/19.0.1324.0/win/Opera_Developer_19.0.1324.0_Setup.exe

    • rpsgc

      Someone already posted that but apparently the moderators decided to censor the comment for some reason.

  • Guest

    Sidewise Chrome extension for vertical tabs was working in O18. Now it’s broken in O19

  • jason

    BRING BACK OPERA UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!