Opera 21 Developer stream today!

We are releasing Opera Developer 21 today.

This developer release got somewhat delayed due to unforeseen problems. However, we are back on track and eager to show off the new version.

The main highlight is integration of Aura on Windows. Aura is a hardware-accelerated rendering of the browser, including the user-interface. This enables less-taxing UI animations and a general sleeker and more responsive feel to the whole UI.

From big things to a small thing (but which will please many of you): there’s now a setting to make Opera browser always show the absolute address in the address field. While many consumers appreciate the emphasis on the domain name and just the essential information; our power users and web developers often need to see the full URL. Simply go to “Settings | Advanced: Show always full URL in address field” and it’s “Hello, absolute address!” from then on.

Mac now has full keyboard support for web apps such as Google Docs and GitHub.

Hope you are all as eager to try out Opera 21 Developer as we are about shipping it! Make sure to skim through the changelog to find more gems.

As always, please let us know about any bugs or oddities.

Known issues

  • Non-native scrollbars and buttons on internal pages
  • Norwegian partner content (Speed Dials) may show up in other regions on Windows XP

Downloads

Full changelog.

  • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

    Wow. So much changes and improvements :) I like it :)

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      They have kind of piled up here for a few weeks. :)

      • Shawny_Shawn

        Why did it take so long to get this release out? You said earlier that there were “problems”. What kind of problems were these, and why were they so serious?

  • x a

    I didn’t dare to hope for ”DNA-9014 Going to parent directory with Ctrl+BS should work“ – but here there it is. Thanks a lot! (And for the Show-Full-URL, too.)

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Tadaaa!

      • rufu2

        This is just a tiny thing, but something I have been using a lot in O12 since I learned about it. Thank you guys and gals for bringing it back!

        This makes me hopeful that all the good little things of old Opera are not forgotten and many will be brought back in the future.

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      I didn’t even know about that feature. Thanks for pointing it out. :)

  • L33t4opera

    Thanks for the new Developer 21! I really appreciate:
    Settings->User interface->Show full URL in combined search and address bar ;-)

  • justSQL

    Looks great :) downloading now!

  • Shawny_Shawn

    It’s very, very disappointing to see that Linux is STILL not supported.

    What is preventing Opera from running on Linux?

    I don’t think it should be a technical issue. Chromium, Chrome, Blink and V8 all support Linux just fine. Opera 12 and earlier versions supported Linux. So there’s no excuse for the new versions of Opera not running on Linux, especially when these new versions are based so heavily on software that does run on Linux just fine!

    Is it a staffing issue? Is there nobody at Opera these days with even basic Linux development skills?

  • Vux777

    video compression in OF2?
    wow :)

    • http://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Looks like acquiring SkyFire does pay off here :)
      I guess it’s the same mechanism as Opera Max is using ;)

  • RingMyDingDong

    Every Opera release is the same. :(

    • André Kittler

      Indeed.
      I always wait for the next increase in the build number, hoping for lost features. But I guess they will never come.
      It’s been so long now that I am used to Firefox already. :(

      • ryofurue

        I’m getting used to Firefox, too; it’s my main browser now. But it still feels subpar to me. The mouse gestures (by an addon) aren’t as smooth as on O12; its bookmarks manager is a lot messier; it’s slower and less snappy and eats more CPU cycles; its tab management is less convenient; its download manager is less convenient; its speed-dial addon is clumsy; its reliance on addons for basic functionalities is annoying and addons aren’t coherent and they clutter your UI.

        In short, O12 spoiled me! :-) O12 was perfect except for site incompatibility. I’m just saying Firefox isn’t a proper alternative to O12 to me; it’s just a “better-than-nothing” alternative. :-)

        As an aside, addons are fine if they are coherent, that is, if they feel as if they were integrated parts of the browser; and if their existence and continued active maintenance are guaranteed till a reasonably far future.

  • Bitchsslap

    Thanks for the full URL :)

    Please show HTTPS connection details by default, instead of having to click Details first.

    Please add options to the hardcore mode:
    Changing SSL/TLS cipher order
    Disabling of specific cipher suites

  • Shawny_Shawn

    Daniel, why are you deleting all of the comments asking why Linux isn’t supported yet?

    Why are you deleting all of the comments asking why real bookmarks aren’t supported yet?

    Those were features supported by Opera 12, but not by the new versions of Opera.

    Instead of censoring us, why don’t you just answer these questions properly?

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Your comments got deleted for hijacking other discussions and spamming with the same question.
      http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/comment-policy/

      • II_ARROWS

        Talking about YOUR disruptive behavior.
        Have come to your mind that MAYBE, just MAYBE, people are “spamming” the same questions because you don’t answer them?

        • justSQL

          It may be an order made by higher forces than them they might not have the permission to talk about that shit.

          • II_ARROWS

            They should at least tell that.
            I think intelligent users had already abandoned the ship, and only the fool one are still hoping.

          • justSQL

            Why should i abandon Opera? It’s greatly improving all the time, and as i don’t use Linux i don’t really care about it.

          • nanana2

            If I understood well what you said about “that shit”, you and everyone here to use this dev version had to download it from a server Linux-based. I think your intelligence is very limited. Oh no, one more fanboy here, c’mon…

          • justSQL

            I AM a web developer. I know about the powers that linux holds. That doesn’t mean i have to like Linux.

          • nanana2

            Are you web developer? LOL

          • nanana2

            So you never can buy a mobile device with Android, cause Android is a Linux kernel-based. And please, don’t use Opera for Android, you would be being too incoherent and ungrateful with Linux…;-)

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Most of the questions were answered hundreds of times and eep being answered almost every day. And as everyone who had ever worked on a business company should know, some answers can’t be given in the way some people want.

          But some people just don’t really want answers but just an excuse to keep their complaints and mimimis or to start new ones.

          • II_ARROWS

            Than you won’t have any problem giving me links where I can find those answer, right?

        • David_Gould

          It certainly has but it has gotten very very boring.

          It reminds me of the behaviour of children who think that nagging a parent is the way to get what they want.

          Whilst parents have some responsibility to their children, Opera Software have no responsibility to you.

          Indeed, why would an Opera Software employee come and answer our questions on here when they’re abused by childish comments like this?

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Many of us thank him for doing so.

  • justSQL

    Bug(or maybe feature :D ); If i write something in the addressbar and roll over the suggestions with mouse they start flickering /flashing randomly, kinda annoying //Win7

    • Mateusz Madej

      Which OS are You using?

      • justSQL

        I see it disappeared as i restarted Opera. It’s ok now, no idea what was causing it first.

        • Mateusz Madej

          We’d love to check it if you told us which OS are You using :)

          • justSQL

            I edited my main post instantly after commenting :D As it says; Win 7 (sp1).

          • justSQL

            I managed to recreate it, would you like some epic bandicam recorded video of it?

          • justSQL

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjJLAUbAWc&feature=youtu.be

            Don’t mind the random sounds at the end of the video, but this is what i managed to create after first changing Windows theme to classic followed by changing it back to the ‘normal’ or whatever it’s called.

          • blackcoder

            I have seen that message today on Opera 19.

    • Vux777

      no flickering here… win7 x64

  • x a

    The new browser|pageAction popup fade-in effect is pleasing.

    • Vux777

      yea…that was probably the reason for that bug 2 versions ago, when there was no popup :)

  • Tüütlüm Ohaya

    I wait and wait for logo focusing in speed dial fields. I have so many speed dial fields and you want that it should be the centre of storage – but give us the choice to make it more convenient for us.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      You mean trying to detect a website’s logo and using it for Speed Dials instead of screenshots?

      • Tüütlüm Ohaya

        Exactly (; i have so many speed dial fields and it’s to confusing with that many. Also i think that many Opera 12 casuals user also prefer it over screenshots, it think for them it should be standard. But give us the choice (:

      • Nekomajin42

        That was a nice feature in O12.

        • RX-3200

          so “nice” that many people looked for and found (or not found) the answer to the question how to disable it in O12

          • Nekomajin42

            I like it, but you are right that it should be an option.

      • guest6768

        And giving adblock access to Speed Dial to block those ads in the screenshots as well. Instead of the sites logo I see ads and banners, which is very annoying. In O12 Block Content did the job, here we are helpless.

        • justSQL

          lol that’s stupid

          • guest6768

            lol that’s stupid

            Reported.

  • Nekomajin42

    So full keyboard support on Mac is done. How about shortcut customization now?

    The changelog is impressive, but I hope, there will be new (major) features before it reaches the Next stream.

  • IllusionMH

    Finnaly full url in address field. But highlight in address field doesn’t work on custom urls like
    http://phpmyadmin/index.php?db=hotel_website&token=ac266d9af783cf4bd773f427fb9d67a8

    domain and query parameters are not gray.

    Win 7 x64 SP1

  • II_ARROWS

    Oh, finally… at least the address.

    But I’m still waiting for a side bookmarks bar, and all other things from Opera 12 I still use every day, even with more and more website having problems with it.
    I’m setting the ultimatum to Opera 24, after that it’s a farewell.

    • Memoman

      24? Ok. I’m on board with that. I’m getting tired of this slowest motion Opera Resurrection. At present what we have is a barely functional, ever more unstable, chrome-ish browser with barely noticeable classic Opera traces of features.

      Can’t your new programmers doll out a primitive, bare bones version of Opera Link? Like passing a txt file between computers. Peer-to-peer, through a server, whatever. This feels like an eternal beta.

      It’s been a depressing trudge carrying a corpse towards a fainting glimpse of hope.

      • II_ARROWS

        24 is double of 12, and should come out about a year later of Opera 15.

        So it’s symbolic too.

  • blu2

    I like the bookmarks bar, but the problem is, i don’t want to see it the whole time.
    I need it for archive and when i search through. I think you should make a button on the navigation bar to turn on and hide. Either with a click or when you drive over it.

    • Emanuele

      or an autohide option for the bookmarks bar could be interesting too… or maybe.ini support and then we can build a simple button that does what we want? ;)

      • Dmitry Kirin

        That would be nice: Bookmark Bar appearing as an overlay at the beginning of viewing area upon mouse move into the upper area (toolbars and window title).

        • Vux777

          coolNovo have that ability
          When mouse enters toolbar area, bookmark bar slides down….but after a while it becomes annoying
          Mouse gesture UP is still free, that could trigger BB on/off

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Yeah, that’s why I never use Windows’ taskbar autohide: the animation.))

          • al_ghul

            u can disable that, and it works for me quite good:)

      • guest6768

        I think the old star is the best option. Imho autohiding with its animations is… annoying.

    • al_ghul

      or some kind of side bar like in old opera/…wide screens are ideal for that things, and NOT for horizontal bars. is that so hard to understand?:// look at maxthon e.g.

    • Steffie

      Hi. Like many i’ve been trying to work out the best way to use my legacy bookmarks in Opera 15 – 21. I’ve explored many Opera & Chrome bookmark extensions, but been mostly frustrated & disappointed. However i recently tried this, & am very pleased with it: 1. Install the Opera extension “Tidy Bookmarks” https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/tidy-bookmarks/ , 2. Setup its powerful Options to your own taste, 3. Hide the Opera Bookmark Bar. This scheme is working really well for me; i like it a lot. Not having the BB taking up screen space is good, & the simple star icon in the extension bar gives me immediate access to all my bookmarks, as well as allowing ease of adding new ones. Seeing the number of people frequently posting about this important topic, i thought i’d share the idea with you. [PS - yes, i AM acutely aware this is not a Bookmark Manager, & yes i also would like the Opera12 Panels again ... but this is a pretty good workaround, for me so far].

      • shane

        This and posts like it need more visibility. There are a number of decent bookmark extensions that integrate with Opera’s bookmark system.

        Perhaps the devs need to make (another) post with links to some of the better ones. It is clear people aren’t aware of them.

        • Bjarne Bertelsen

          Two things are important in bookmarks imho:
          Sort alphabethically and sync !
          Eagerly waiting for this to be implemented.

        • gekitsu

          people shouldnt be needing to put up with the varying standards of quality, performance hits and potential compatibility issues of extensions for basic functions.

          thats the problem, not that some noble soul has taken it upon him/herself to write a solution the devs didnt think worth their time.

          • Douglas Ryan

            Not to mention plugins and extensions are a main culprit in browser crashes/freezes. Don’t do crap like to try build Facebook into the browser (like Flock did), but basic functions such as bookmarking are not bloat nor difficult for the average user. Plus, I wouldn’t want to trust an extension developer not sell my bookmarks to an ad agency.

          • Fhury

            Just to inform people here about the status of bookmarks as posted by Błażej Kaźmierczak below: “For the time being we are not working on further improving bookmarks. “

          • gekitsu

            i’ve seen it. words fail me. the force is not strong in them.

          • senna_4ever

            bookmarks system is one of the visit card for any browser
            #fail

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Lets see¸the bookmarking back-end was in place in Opera 16 and were made available for extension developers in 17. The bookmarks bar then followed in version 19. … if you look closely, you’ll see a pattern. ;-)

      • Nekomajin42

        You know that certain bookmarking features are still missing.

  • http://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

    Still waiting for HiDPI support O:)
    I’m going to participate in testing again as soon as I can actually use these builds…

    • http://mathiasbynens.be/ Mathias Bynens

      What do you mean exactly? The Opera UI looks great on high-resolution screens.

      • http://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        Not on really high-res devices. 3200*1800px @ 13,3″ over here.
        Opera 18 is the last usable version.

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          My Laptop is 1600*900 and 17.3″ and everything looks totally cool.

          Those numbers are ridiculous. What marketing does to people.

          • http://golubev.by/ Andrew G.

            My laptop has 1920×1080 at 15,6. It is not good.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Fine for that size.

  • Mrreow

    Aaand still can’t set custom default search engine.. I just want it to search with Startpage.. to think that would be so hard. (And no I don’t want to have to type something just to search with a certain search engine, I should be able to set it as default but apparently not)

    • Dmitry Kirin

      In settings, you can choose a search engine for use from the address bar. You can’t change the search engine used by the search field on the Speed Dial page.

      • Mrreow

        Where? http://i.imgur.com/Z5TTvxH.png There is no option to make it the default search engine.

        • Dmitry Kirin

          No, not here. In Settings, page Browser, the fourth section, Search.

          • Mrreow

            You mean here? http://i.imgur.com/VbFC4Xi.png You mean in the list that only shows the pre-sets but not the search engines I’ve added myself?

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Yes. It has been pointed out previously that Opera does not currently support meddling with users’ search engnes, to prevent malware attacks.

          • Mrreow

            So in order to prevent malware attacks (I’m assuming you mean preventing malware from changing the search engine, because it wouldn’t help in any other way against malware) they almost completely removed choice?

            That doesn’t work for me, I remember the old Opera, the Opera that allowed you to make almost any kind of changes and catered to power users.. This new Opera is everything but that, closed down and pretty much nothing a power user would be looking for, in fact I believe that is intentional, because you know.. most people aren’t power users.

            In fact I remember a blog post around the time when Opera Next first came out, it said something about the lines of re-building the old Opera, the Swiss army knife of browsers, in the chromium engine… Well so far they’ve gone in the complete opposite direction and making a more closed browser in general.

            Is removing choice Opera’s long term solution to malware that tamper with the search engine? If it is then please tell me, because then I know I can forget Opera ever existed because they simply won’t be making a functional browser.

            Forget cautious/critical thinking, forget proper security software.. Forget all of that and submit to the browser that controls YOU. Yeah no thank you, I still had hope for Opera when they switched to the Chromium engine, I still had hope through several releases.. Always paid attention to all developers releases.. Now I have no hope left, it’s simply not an alternative as a browser, not fit for purpose.

            Of course I know this post won’t change anything, Opera will continue their new role of catering to the masses because god knows no one ever did that before them. But honestly, I’m done, might as well use Google Chrome or any other Chromium based browser, at least they don’t limit you as much as Opera.

            I will remember Opera as it once were, powerful and customizable and I will erase this new Opera from my memory.

            I guess this is farewell. (Lol drama queen much :D )

          • darlan dias

            as you left the Opera with this dark design? Mine is always blue and ugly as chrome. explains there

          • Sidney Guioy

            He is on windows 8 and you are probably on 7 or less.

          • Orhin

            Maxthon.. This comes most close to a customizable browser using the Blink Engine. Or Avant Browser.

            But i really recommend Qupzilla or the new Otter-Browser project :)

          • guest6768

            They could whitelist some search engines though in my opinion, and also the localized search engines should be an option, not default. I can’t use wikipedia as I used to for example, the localized version has too little to offer.

          • Guest

            .

          • rufu2

            That would be a good solution! For the time being, just expand the list of default search engines! We could have a vote here on which search engines are wanted the most.

            wikipedia (en)
            startpage
            ixquick
            duckduckgo
            youtube
            vimeo

  • cgebhard

    There is a difference in the layout of flags page with just a minor annoyance (see screenshots).
    The same is valid for the settings page.

  • mixal11

    I have problem with PigToolbox chrome extension for Mouse gestures. In Opera 20 working without problems. I have to use it, since there is no possibility to customize built in mouse gestures, which renders them unusable (at least for me)

    • Vux777

      I never could run full PigToolbox. I always get error “NPAPI plugin missing” for all win only features… :/

  • Kartofel

    Speedial loads slow when “+” pressed.
    Scrolling is slow and the page drawing is noticeable(touchpad).
    Don’t know if the smooth scrolling has been enabled or removed(since it disappeared from :flags) but the scrolling with a touchpad is crappy…
    It would nice if the entries in :flags ware sortable by date(added time).
    At least the loading page when starting the browser improved with Save session for offline restart… still not as fast as in o12 but a noticeable improvement.
    And finally full url can be enabled…
    When will we see some documentation on the “Site preferences”, it’s in the flags almost from the beginning but there is no actual info about it…

  • Женя Т…

    New design of scrollbar and buttons is horrible!

    • Ghirahim

      Buttons?

      • Женя Т…

        Yes, in settings, for example.

        Known issues – Non-native scrollbars and buttons on internal pages
        Oh, that issue, ok.

  • cool_myll

    Chrome.proxy and Opera Sync? Is any of that included?

  • Rezo Lekveishvili

    How come that this build is only 27 mb, while the next version is 33mb

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Different resource handling with Aura.

  • Ghirahim

    How to enable smooth scrolling?

  • Eric83

    It’s nice to see the real URL. Get sync fully functional and allow the
    option to put tabs at the bottom of the page and I’ll likely find myself
    using Opera again on those rare occasions when I boot into Windows.
    Allowing the moving of tabs off the top would be a good step to
    distinguishing Opera from the other Chrome cloners out there.

  • NoName

    When I open and close DevTools by pressing Ctrl+Shift+I twice, I cannot open it again unless I change focus to the webpage content.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Ah. Yes, this would be keyboard focus being left in the window you just closed. Ehm, yeah. We need to fix that.

  • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

    Can someone tell me how to start it without any open tabs or if there’s a safe mode? It starts, but then just sits there hung and I can only shut it down through task manager…

  • DD64

    I wonder how much longer I will have to use Opera 12.16. When can I expect something equivalent from you guys?

    • bowser

      I had the same opinion with you. Just try the new version and you’ll be amazed with the stability. I used 12.16 and faced some issues with some pages’ loading, such us Youtube! I really loved Opera Stable, and yes, I think Opera made steps forward and has nothing to envy of Mozilla or Chrome. ;)

      • gekitsu

        firefox and chrome are not the interesting comparison. opera 12.16 is. and its ~20 versions (at current rate) short of that.

    • Azrael

      Judging by their previous comments on this subject – never.

  • Philip

    Progressing nicely. But not in my direction. Please give an official estimate for a linux version. “Late 2014″ should be possible, shouldn’t it? Or otherwise just tell us that there will *not* be a linux version this year, so we can start searching for an alternative.

    • Veger

      “Hope you are all as eager to try out Opera 21 Developer as we are about shipping it!”

      Oh yes I am very eager…

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Seriously after all this time you are waiting for an answer?

      Just move on.

      • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

        WTF??? They already said it! News about Linux version not before March! Is this so hard to understand??

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          I guess this goes for Philip, he seems to be willing to wait the whole year if he doesn’t get an answer.

  • taneli

    I suddenly couldn’t get the Speed Dial to show up anymore when opening a new tab (Via Ctrl+T or from “+” on tabbar, or from OMenu -> New Tab, it just showed an empty page, no idea what i did before for it to start doing that, restarting Opera helped, Win8.1 x64.

    Also, started noticing some flickering things:
    1) On this Disqus container, when i hover over “Log in” or “Sort By”, the whole container flashes.
    2) On the Stash page, when hovering mouse over the Speed Dial icon on the right side of the panels, the whole page flashes.

  • beBoss

    After update -> crash on start up -> Facepalm…

    • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

      It hangs for me, even after restart. Every time. Writing this on Chrome…

      • beBoss

        Me too!!!

        • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

          Also CPU usage is high, and it creates lots of processes even though I only have three tabs open.

          Just tried opening it without an internet connection, still hangs, so it’s not one of the web pages (only Gmail, Feedly and a tab with an image) that does it…

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Here it creates 10 proccesses without opening a single tab, just upon starting.

            But guess what? Opera 19 did exactly the same.

          • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

            Yeah, it has been doing it for ages, but not causing as much trouble…

          • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

            You can check every process of Opera by opening Task Manager. And no, I don’t writing about Windows Task Manager ;)

          • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

            After disabling my extensions I realised that all those threads are because of them. Something to watch…

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            So…
            AdBlock,
            Adblock Plus,
            DoNotTrackMe,
            Ghostery,
            HTTPS Everywhere,
            Magic Actions for YouTube and
            PDF Viewer

            Cause all that memory usage, even with no tabs open?

            BTW I’m uninstalling ABPlus, yesterady it couldn’t get rid of a big ad, that disappeared as soon as I installed Adblock, so that should be called AdBlock Minus!!

          • thunder13

            Try ContentBlockHelper extension, because Adblock and Adblock Plus not block many ads. In CBH can use filters with Adblock.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Yes, Opera creates one process for each extension. And one for the browser itself, one for each tab and so one.

            You can check those processes using the Task Manager.

          • David_Gould

            Would it possible for Opera to name those threads in case the Opera Task Manager won’t start?

          • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

            Yeah, I had forgotten about the Task Manager. Amazing how much memory some extensions consume – 77MB for ContentBlockHelper?!?!

      • Dmitry Kirin

        Try removing *History.db* from the profile folder or replace it with fresh ones. It worked for me.

        • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

          History, not history.db, but yes, it did the trick!!! Thanks so much :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      This is a Dev build, it will hang, consume all your RAM, crash and delete your Dials, history, porn, music, videos and documents.

      • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

        Not to mention my cat got sick and space bar stopped working.

    • Guest

      Just delete the History file in Opera’s profile folder. That should fix the hang/crash on startup problem.

  • Inquisitor

    Headers on YouTube pages not showing:

    O21Dev:

    http://i.imgur.com/Sz6nXqZ.jpg

    O12.16:

    http://i.imgur.com/umBWihA.jpg

    • taneli

      Youtube changed their layout today, clear cache & cookies and try again on both browsers. (Or it might be one of those targeted test changes).

      • Inquisitor

        Cleared cache, cookies, etc., and restarted browser. No change; O12 is fine, O21Dev is not.

        • taneli

          Well that’s weird, headers are showing up just fine on the channels for me.

        • Vux777

          works fine on my side
          win7 x64..

    • Inquisitor

      Okay, I found the culprit: I had the extension ‘YouTube Center’ switched on, and this caused the problem. I turned it off, and now the YouTube pages are loaded correctly.

  • Gabriel Castro

    YEY! Real working bookmarks!!
    oh… wait……..

  • taneli

    Oh balls… apparently every page informs me that it has crashed, where there is an embedded youtube video, and the video container is left empty.

    (Win8.1 x64)

  • Niyawa

    That scrollbar… you guys should use a more stylish and simple implementation. It’s 2014, why do we need to have a scrollbar taking unnecessary space when it can just appear or disappear when we need it? (a.k.a modern scroll).

    I’d love a native implementation since extensions simply slow down my browsing…

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    Puh-leaaaaaase enable it!!!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      opera:gpu shows “Compositing: Hardware accelerated on all pages and threaded” here, so maybe it’s enabled by default for supported devices?

      Btw, those options could be enabled on the lastest Opera 20 Developer. May have changed because of Aura?

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Well that’s funny, I get the same info and still in flags they are disabled.

        Something to do with Aura, perhaps.

        What is a supported device? it is only for Win and Mac, and I’m on Quad-core both in at work and home.

  • Krasen Ivanov

    Can you make the new network installer show how many MB (how big is the file) is downloading, a percentage maybe, and/or how much time is left ?

    btw,
    How to remove sites from the folder in the Speed Dial ?

    • Vux777

      X (delete button) not showing on hover?

      • Krasen Ivanov

        I found it actually you need to enter the folder, then drag to remove the site to get it back in front.

        • Carson Coyote

          I was just about to suggest that, but you beat me to it! :)

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Why should it show that information? The dialog is only there for seconds (minutes if you are on a really slow connection) and then you never see it again. opera://about will show you more info about update progress once you are past the initial installation.

      • Krasen Ivanov

        Well it appeared when I installed Opera, that my connection was kinda slow and I was wondering how much time I need to wait to download the needed files.

  • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

    Managed to close all the tabs. Seems like Opera is not hung, just very, very slow. Even with zero pages (tries to open Speed Dial), there are 11 Opera threads running, consuming more and more memory (over 200MB in one minute of running and still going up – another 7MB while typing this sentence) and CPU is around 25-30% on my i7@2.9GHz

    Totally unusable. Any ideas how to troubleshoot it?

    • taneli

      I just noticed, when i left the settings tab open on the background, after about 15 minutes of it sitting there, it started consuming ~15% of CPU, might be something to do with the internal pages? (If it happens for you on the speed dial)

      • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

        Hm, interesting… Is there a way to disable Speed Dial, I wonder…

        • Lord Thunder

          Just delete the History file in Opera’s profile folder. That should fix the hang on startup problem.

          • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

            Yeah, that worked!!! My Desktop installation had no problem, but it solved it for my laptop… thx :)

      • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

        By the way, after a few minutes of it sitting there, with nothing but Speed Dial, Opera had surpassed 1GB of mem consumption. Something’s very rotten!!

      • taneli

        Started doing it again (restarted once inbetween too), again after 10-15 minutes of the tab just being open on the background.

        Edit… thought i attached an image too… or does that just take time?

        • Carson Coyote

          I don’t even have to wait 10-15 minutes for it to happen. As soon as I open the Setting page, then switch to another tab, the CPU usage goes way up.

  • joelson0007

    opera://flags/#enable-smooth-scrolling not working im new dev version 21.0.1419.0 , dont kill this please!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      What is not working? Scrolling seems ok here.

      • joelson0007

        install old dev version 20.0.1387.9, and enable this flag #enable-smooth-scrolling, now you best scroll of world. i try by command line in new dev version, but not working, i believe because of the new version chromiun version dont support anymore smooth scroll

  • Peter Henkel

    Bring back Chrome’s and Firefox’s pinned tab behavior. Thanks.

  • meh

    Bookmarks? But I mean real bookmarks, so neither bkms bar nor speed dial. I want to import mine from Firefox.
    And what has happened with the scrollbars? They’re not the native ones anymore.
    Windows 7

    • justSQL

      Sometimes READING the main post is a good option before whining about stuff.

      Known issues

      Non-native scrollbars and buttons on internal pages.

      It wasn’t that hard? Here’s what happened with your scrollbars, boy.

  • Thomas Sawyer

    Problem…

    • taneli

      No, i mentioned this too earlier, kind of a bummer :/

      • Thomas Sawyer

        Does deleting the browser.js file solve in your case?
        Here it is showing the “HTML5 3D” info on every single embedded video. If I remove the browser.js, the player works fine… until Opera downloads the damn thing again. Latest Flash (12.0.0.70) and other browsers work fine. It also affects the latest 19 version. Other than that, the new version looks good.

        • taneli

          Didn’t help, just shows a popup upon entering the page “Opera Developer has stopped working”, can still click the popup away and see the page, but all the video containers are empty (it also crashes flash on every other page, if there happens to be other instances open, for example a youtube video in another tab.).

      • Inquisitor

        Yep, I’m experiencing the same problem – and some other YouTube problems as well.

      • blackcoder

        When did you mentioned it? Or better since when do you have that issue. I guess I saw it the first time this morning?

        So is this related to:
        - an update of youtube?
        - an update of browser.js?
        - the new version of Adobe Flash (12.0.0.70)?

        • taneli

          About 3 hours ago, on this build, not affected by the browser.js (sorry if i mistakenly here implied that it was ’cause of it), had 12.0.0.20 Flash (now updated to .70).
          Problem still persists, and, Win8.1 x64.
          Doesn’t seem to be ’cause of the youtube changes today (Embedded videos still do work in Opera 20 Next).

          • blackcoder

            I can confirm this issue with Opera 19 stable, Opera 20 Next and Opera 21 Developer. So I guess it is not related to this Opera 21 Developer Build.

            Windows 8.1 x64 here, too.

            Maybe the youtube fix in the browser.js is now incompatible due to a change on youtube.

          • taneli

            Well that’s weird, i just installed a fresh Next 20 couple hours ago, and no trouble with it at all… (the browser.js is still there).

          • Thomas Sawyer

            I was able to reproduce the issue on Windows XP running on a VM. Again, deleting the browser.js file fixes the problem until Opera restores it.

          • Vux777

            did you try deleting everything in .js file and set it read only?
            I didn’t try it, just guessing…that would maybe prevent it from update

          • Thomas Sawyer

            Yes, and this is actually the only temporary solution I have for now. I preferred to leave it as it is, because the absence of the code in the file may end up breaking something more relevant. The worst is that Opera doesn’t even allow me to try a fix by editing the file, since it detects the changes and replaces it to a new one from the server.

          • Vux777

            I deleted browser.js and restarted Opera couple of times, and it didn’t update/download new .js file
            but I allowed only opera.exe in my firewall, opera_autoupdate.exe is blocked

            nvm…it did ๏̯͡๏

          • Thomas Sawyer

            Wow! It came back to normal this morning, and the browser.js remains unchanged. Maybe it was on YouTube’s side… or an NSA Trainee forgot to set some boolean to false… who knows…

  • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

    So, after lots of waiting and trying, I disabled all my extensions, and with just one open page (so that Opera doesn’t open Speed Dial) it’s still so slow it’s unusable. Still eating CPU cycles and memory like crazy.

    Something is *really* broken here…

    • justSQL

      You really want someone to link the bleeding edge wikipedia article? :p

      But yeah there’s A LOT of stuff broken, i’ve spotted at least 12 seriously bad bugs in this build, even recorded a video of the first one. I think the aura shit somehow broke Opera :D

  • CaryF

    Proxy settings via IE control panel are not being honored here. Can anyone confirm?

  • Dainis Valdmanis

    It’s nice to know that Aura is integrated. Now it would be good if someone could explain what Aura is? :) And why it is important?

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Okay, I’m finally here. :) Thanks for the long-awaited new version!
    At first, Opera just hang upon startup, with a white screen and one process eating memory and 1 CPU.
    I reinstalled Opera and started adding features and files back. Keeping the History.db* files from the previous version leads to this version hanging upon startup.

    • EpiKnightz

      Man I’m having the same problem and about to try the same method! You’re a lifesaver! Thank you for sharing!

    • Rando Koks

      Seems that it helped. though file is named just History, no extension

      • Dmitry Kirin

        Indeed. Corrected, thanks!

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Ups, where is my speed dial page? It doesn’t matter if I switch full url on or off, after CTRL-T (or via O-menu) there is only an empty page.

    But for that I don’t have problems with Youtube or scrollbars. W7x64.

    • taneli

      I had that happening to me one time too with this build (first it worked, then all of a sunned only blank pages when opening a new tab, no idea what i did or what caused it). Restarted Opera and works again now.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Ok, I had to clear the history, cache and so on and to restart it two times, then it worked properly again. I’ll have an eye on this. Thank you.

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          Today I had the same behaviour again. CTRL-T and a white page. One time I could restore the speed dial page with SHIFT-F5 (reload), but the next time this workaround didn’t work. So I think this is a bug in the actual Opera Developer 21.0.1419.0.

  • Евгений Смирнов

    Please, include show/hide images button to browser.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      You can toggle images from Settings.

      • Nekomajin42

        How about site-specific settings via (for example) the badge in the address field?

      • Евгений Смирнов

        It’s for every page. Sometimes we need to disable images on image-overloaded page where we need only reed text. Every time go to settings is not the solution.

        • Emanuele

          Hipsters don’t understand what you’re talking about… asking features like this to the actual Opera devs is useless, trust me

        • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

          Hm. Something like the Readability extension should fill this need.
          https://www.readability.com/bookmarklets

          • Евгений Смирнов

            Thanks! But it seems there is no extension for opera https://www.readability.com/apps According to description this extension affects the page sctructure. It may leed to uncorrect page representation. I think it not fully cover desired button functionality.

          • Guest

            Thanks! But it seems there is no extension for operahttps://www.readability.com/ap… According to description this extension affects the page sctructure. It may leed to uncorrect page representation. I think it not fully cover desired button functionality.

          • rufu2
      • gekitsu

        settings are for how you want things to work in general.

        a button like showing/hiding images or the old feature of asking whether a new cookie is allowed to be set is controlling the browsing experience. its not practical to go to the settings page for every little something you just do on the fly.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    HiDPI still not working properly: When on, there’s a black spacer under window title and toolbar fonts look gigantic. Though at least it now works without that awful glitch that controls weren’t receiving clicks properly.

  • Harrison A. Heck

    When will HiDPI be fixed for Windows? Enabling it in flags breaks the UI pretty badly.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      That is why the flag is not enabled by default yet.

      • Harrison A. Heck

        That doesn’t answer the question to when it will be fixed. This is a pretty big deal on a lot of newer computers.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    A usability issue:
    When SD is paged at Stash, the SD toolbar button, to the left of the address bar, is disabled. It is sort of logical, as Stash is a part of SD+Stash+Discover conglomerate. But it confused me a bit. I think it should be available and show the main SD (or start?) page.

  • taneli

    Feature request time:
    - Left Click on currently active tab -> Activate last active tab.
    - Option for Opera to stop recording history of visited pages.

    • rufu2

      - Left Click on currently active tab -> Activate last active tab.

      Yes, that is something I miss a lot! I’m automatically clicking the tab a lot of times and only then do I notice it does not work (yet)

      Also, I am still looking for newly opened background tabs at the end, not right next to the active one. Please, give us some customizability here :-)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Syntax error:
    After installation, when the welcome page is shown, an overlay stripe asks for a permission to collect usage data: “To help improve Opera, send us usage data” (or something like that). In Russian, the first word must be without space: “Что бы” -> “Чтобы”. Being an incurable grammar fanatic, I reported this as DNA-17109. :)

  • Vux777

    drop down menus on Smart RSS options page is crashing Opera

    Screenshot

    • Vux777

      same thing with Drag N Go extension
      probably all those drop down type menus are crashing Opera

      • Vux777

        I reset the flags and now works fine…don’t know how many I’ve changed

        • Leonardo Gomes

          opera://flags/#impl-side-painting seems to be the one to blame.

          • Vux777

            confirmed
            btw. bug affects also extension page, so it’s not possible just to disable that one flag… I had to reset all of them…

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve just tested here and didn’t get a crash.

      Win 8.1 if that matters.

      • Vux777

        it was a flag causing it…when I reset to default, everything works fine…don’t know which one

  • Álvaro Martínez

    A blank space appears for less than a second when clicking the heart icon on the address field to stash a webpage. This does not hapen when you click the icon to remove the webpage from the stash.

    • Vux777

      if I surf with Opera in window mode, open couple of tabs in BG, then switch to full screen….all those tabs that are opened in window mode will blink from windowed size to full screen size on activation….it’s like they keep initial state until they are active
      maybe something similar is in your case…

      • Álvaro Martínez

        Uhm… I don’t switch between windowed and maximized mode while clicking the heart icon. It just happens all the time.

        • Vux777

          you were right…
          I just noticed the same behavior …
          when stashing some page with heart, page blinks for moment to half hight/width with scroll bars and then goes back to full screen

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Confirmed. When un-stashing, it does not blink.

          • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

            Both images would be cached in memory at that stage. It is a performance bug that it isn’t displayed instantaneous.

  • ahoj1234

    I have got a “black out” after this update (using the newest netinstaller). It’s on secure and insecure pages. It’s in “private window” as well. (so “alf+F5 does not solve it).
    To be clear… it started with the very first open after this update and it has been here till now no matter I do.
    some point: content is still there just not shown. I can see links (left corner) when I hover over them etc…
    Any ideas?
    (I have to post it from chrome now…)
    W7 x64 with this build.

    • ahoj1234

      I did a downgrade a few minutes ago… (what I dirty man am I?) but at least it helps…
      afterwards I tried to update it (to this build) again and… WHAT THE… IT’S HERE AGAIN!
      –> THIS VERSION IS NOT USABLE HERE AT ALL. (even SD is black)
      (I have to downgrade it again to be able to use it :) )

      • Rando Koks

        Almost the same here. Though I don’t even guess there’s content. Opera keeps showing ‘Loading’ and shows nothing, processor use is up and memory is increasing. nothing more.

        • Dmitry Kirin

          If it’s totally hang up, it might be the same case as mine, see the solution here: http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/02/opera-21-today/#comment-1255190046
          Not totally sure though, as in my case, Opera looked white, not black.

          • The Solutor

            Dimitry it’s the same case.

            The black screen thing happened yesterday to me and was fixed deleting the history db as you suggested.

            Thanks.

          • ahoj1234

            Deleting “History”, “History Provider Cache” and “History-journal”
            does not solve it. (history.db is not even there).
            - USB/separate install (profile folder) under W7 x64

          • http://www.cpcwiki.eu/ Gryzor

            Don’t search for “history.db” but simply for “history” (no extension)

          • ahoj1234

            I though so that was why I deleted the “History”. But since there are favicons.db etc I just wonder if there is not supposed to be “history.db” as well.
            Anyway nothing helped here.

  • Vit

    Dear Błażej when you will add real bookmarks to Opera?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Opera creates fake ones? :-)

      • Vit

        Opera created surrogate without functionality of bookmark manager of Opera 12 and this is problem for me. I moved to Firefox or use Opera 12 just because of this problem.

    • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

      Real bookmarks manager is still not completed, but they hopefully working on that. Currently they already implemented basic bookmarks function and bookmarks bar.

      • deusex01

        Without synchronization or ability to import from Opera 12

    • BK

      For the time being we are not working on further improving bookmarks. There are things with higher priority, ie. synchronization, better tabs handling, and many many others. Penguin fans also wait to be satisfied.

      • deusex01

        Thank you. I hope that I can synchronize my bookmarks soon

      • gekitsu

        wow…

      • Alexander Mardari

        So there is hope for better tabs!
        This message is a great way to start the day, thank you.

      • Nekomajin42

        You’ve been working on better tabs handling for the last half a year, and we’ve got uhm… pinned tabs! Which also lacks of features. So how about some speed?

        • rufu2

          I don’t know if sarcasm helps to achieve anything.
          But I understand your frustration, it looks as if Opera Software ASA is a bit understaffed? As long as O12 does everything good enough, I can wait. I don’t need to do serious work with Blink-O, yet.

          • Nekomajin42

            You may be right, but I’m more disappointed day by day.

          • guest6768

            Understaffed and mainly focused on mobile phones and tablets. I don’t say it, former and current CEO said it.

          • M Karlsson

            They don’t focus much on mobiles or tablets either. Opera Mini, for long the best mini browser and Opera’s number 1 product, hasn’t been properly updated in ages. Dolphin Mini, UC browser mini, Boat browser mini, they all get more features all the time. I stick to Opera Mini thanks to synchronization. Whatever Opera Mini can’t handle I open in Opera Classic. Whatever Opera Classic can’t handle I curse.

            I need 1 browser that works in Windows, OSX, Android and Linux, with synchronization. Opera used to do that. Not anymore. Unfortunately there are no good options but I guess I’ll go to Firefox eventually. (Chrome is also heading the wrong way, and Opera is following quickly, wanting to take the lead)

          • guest6768

            That’s sad to hear. But if you read this article (translate it) http://www.digi.no/911808/bittersott-og-nytt-i-opera you ‘ll see you are more lucky than us.

            Snips of that article:
            iOS and Android are the future, according to CEO Lars Boilesen.
            It’s iOS and Android that has been Opera’s main priority. Boilesen have previously signed up the story before and after Apple’s launch of iPhone in 2007, which he believes started a new era. It was also the direct cause of the Opera’s 18-year status as a browser manufacturer with own code base is over.

            The ambition to create browser for most potential platforms, covering Opera Software in many years the act can be said to have been an undisputed king is now very dimmed. It is today’s two most popular mobile platforms that matters.
            Today there are very few platforms in the market. We believe we can be far more innovative with “native look & feel” on iOS and Android. That’s why we took this decision. We want to get on the offensive, saying Boilesen.
            The native believes he transition to WebKit engine, Apple’s open source project that has become the de facto standard in mobile browsers. It is also the only engine that Apple accepts the iOS. Google Chrome is based on the same core technology.

            At the same time he thinks that Opera now doomed Presto was an amazing engine. Extremely competitive, the term he uses. But thus not on mobile.

            We have experienced tremendous compatibility problems on mobile. There are only two platforms, says Boilesen with a clear link to Apple’s iOS and Google’s Android.

      • Emanuele

        LOL …. writing a native bookmarks manager even in projects driven by a single person is considered a junior job (“I’ll write it in the weekend” is the average thinking :P )…

        And now I’ve to read that a software house with zillions of dollars and hundreds of developers is not able to build it because it takes too much time and energies ….

        Don’t you think that is much more convenient to tell the true to your users? something like “We’re sorry but at Opera ASA we decided to not give it to you. Period.”

        Sure I’d prefer it…

        PS
        I saw my previous comment has been deleted… not much important but… seriously? O_o

        • Nekomajin42

          There were times when people laughed at Chrome because of its missing features. Now they laugh at Opera.

      • Onaj Tamo

        “Penguin fans also wait to be satisfied.”

        :)

      • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

        So sad… a bookmark manager is a basic feature. But I see where you’re coming from. The reboot of the browser opened up many, many battlefronts, and I certainly hope tab improvements are coming sooner than later. (Visual tabs, pretty please?) ;)

        • rufu2

          I agree, there are lots of “fronts”, and it will take an awful lot of time to get around to half of them…

          It’s interesting how we all like different things — I don’t really need visual tabs, for example ;) but I do like the popup screenshots when hovering a tab. (I guess that’s a part of “visual tabs”?)
          What everybody likes about old Opera seems to be its customizability, all the options and the freedom to turn things on or off.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Yeah, totally! As we all like different things, and the dev team can only attack a bunch of issues at a time, there will always be a lot of whiners… I say Opera is a very cool browser as it is, though it is obviously rough on all edges. It’s no easy task to rebuild a browser these days.

      • guest6768

        Please name what the many many others are. Writing about those 2 as main priority in your post and hiding behind the generic “many many others” shows the opposite.

      • Fhury

        That is really disappointing, but thanks for letting us know.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Not long ago one of your colleagues, if not yourself, said all the contrary.

        Anyway I don’t care about bookmarks, just tell me you plan to include smooth scrolling again, maybe not in 21, but it will happen right? same for threaded compositing and gpu compositing for all pages, c’mon squeeze our graphics hardware to the max!!

      • rufu2

        Thank you for the information! It does help to know what is being done. Penguin fans have been very “vocal” here ;) It’s great they will have something to play with soon-ish.

      • RobertNM

        Bring back Tab Stacking that should improve tab handling. It was a killer feature in the pre-chromium Opera.

  • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

    I got the automatic update applied, restarted the browser, and all pages I had open are now blank. I went to each tab and pressed F5, but nothing happens. Hitting Alt+Enter on the address bar to open the page in a new tab works, though. (EDIT: when I say “nothing happens” I mean that Opera *tries* to reload the page, but when it’s done, ie when the spinner in the tab disappears, the page is still blank.)

  • Alex Parker

    yad2.co.il is still broken. Leads to the mobile version of the site instead of desktop one. Works fine in IE. And yeah, I’ll keep nagging till you fix it. :)

  • Ra-Mon

    opera://about/thanks , wow !
    I didn’t expect so much people works actively for this product :D

  • Onaj Tamo

    Greetings opera developers.

    Windows users now have 2 installations.Linux users have 0.I hope you keep your promise that we might get something on or after March this year.Just reminding you.

    Have a nice day.

  • Tomáš Pavlík

    Twenty One.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS2GmVXvkho

    Still a little bittersweet Opera’s flavour. But hell, i cant’t complain too much. She’s fast as hell.

    • blackcoder

      That song is a fine piece of art. :)

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        Yes, it is. :)
        The whole soundtrack is.

  • Johan

    What i have to say about this is: Release/Leak the source code of Opera 12.16 and let other ppl continue what you dont want/cant do anymore, this bad clone of chrome/chromium is awful, you have no advantage over chrome, seriously, someone please, LEAK THE SOURCE CODE OF OPERA 12.16

    • justSQL

      They still have products that use the Presto engine, i believe if they change / stop those then they might give it to us but otherwise not.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It won’t happen. Not in a near future at least.

    • Onaj Tamo

      I am not optimistic about that because they said once that they would need roughly 1 year of work only on that for it to be ready to be open sourced.

  • guest6768

    Youtube videos are not showing correctly (wide black strip) when the browser is not maximized. Anyone confirm?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Confirmed.

    • rufu2

      Yes, there is a bit of black to the left of the video.

  • justSQL

    Ok, how can a build that has been fixed for over a week have this many bugs?
    Performance issues
    Processes remain open after closing Opera (when had private window open)
    Youtube crashed for some
    Addressbar acting very buggy, sometimes the outer lines completely disappear.
    Crashing on startup
    Blank pages
    After resizing Opera window things go completely nuts
    Linux fans will take over your offices
    Consuming more memory and using more CPU than a elephant can eat
    As i’m writing text it’s stuttering
    Linux fans are still ready kill someone for the lack of Linux build

    I still appreciate your work on these builds, but how is it possible to create ten times more bugs than new features?

    At least share some information here, guys?

    You should have a talk about all these things between your company employees= What can you tell to the community about Linux build? When is it coming?

    How to say ‘we have more bugs than features’

    When to actually tell your community about your plans towards this browser; What old features from Opera 12 WILL you support in future and what you WON’T support in future.

    Those things would solve 90% of your problems with community management.

    Still love Opera. Great product. Make sure it will not become Titanic and everything collapses with community management problems.

    If someone wants to have a talk about this i’m free to use.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Ok, how can a build that has been fixed for over a week have this many bugs?

      Opera Developer contains our latest changes. It is a nightly snapshot of our active development, delivered more or less as-is and minimal quality requirements.

      The intention is to showcase what we are working on and be open about upcoming changes to web technologies. It is not intended for daily browsing. It is provided for web developers (as the name suggests) and enthusiasts who are not afraid of some bumps in the road.

      The Developer stream is what is often referred to, in development terms, as bleeding-edge or the unstable streams. Referring to the risk of suddenly getting cut by an unpolished developing feature.

      http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/streams/

      • justSQL

        I know, i commented about the bleeding edge a bit below before my own comment. But think about it; They should rename the build to bleeding edge if everything will be unusable.

        I don’t believe they’ve released this many bugs at the same time ever before.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          A Developer build without bugs would not be a….Developers build. :-)

    • Leonardo Gomes
      • justSQL

        That’s why i said they should discuss it within their company / employees.

        Speak with the ones creating the Linux build, ask what are the biggest issues left, and tell community about it. Also a approximate time lefit if possible. Also the few ‘devs’ who talk here are actually just testers, they’re not developers at all. Am i the only one here who thinks we need some answers from actual developers?

        It can’t be a f*cking taboo to talk about Linux.

        And the most important thing:

        Actually tell us what they’re planning to add from version 12 and what they’re not planning to add. Making a post about those things would reduce the amount of crying here in every single update blog. You can see that a part of the community isn’t happy. Actually a major portion. Those who want Opera to be as good as during it’s golden ages, and those who want Linux.

        One blog. 3 sentences would be enough

        For example

        Linux is coming approximately between June and August
        or
        Linux is not coming at all. We were not happy with certain things and there will not be a Linux version.

        Here’s a list of some of the old features you’ve been asking for us to implement, coming in near future:
        -Insert list here-

        Here’s a list of things that are NOT getting added to Opera:
        -Insert list-

        Thanks guys, have a nice day.

        Done. Not so hard.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          One of the reasons for Opera to (almost) never reveaç roadmaps, future plans and release dates is that, unfortunally, many users can’t deal with changes.

          If they say that they will add this or that feature, you can be sure that there will be some people asking for it on every single release.

          (http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/11/19-developer-update/#comment-1112974054)

          Also, if they say that they will release Opera for Linux on a certain date or period and, for some reason, it doesn’t happen, there would be lots of complaints.

          So there is a dilema: if they don’t say anything, people will keep asking about release dates; if they say something but things change during the process, people will complaint about it.

  • irdose

    Where import-export bookmarks?

    When you are done?

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Its not ready yet.

      Advanced users can, however, still achieve it with some work. http://superuser.com/a/714605/81165

    • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

      Or you can install XMarks extension for Chrome/Firefox/IE, then import bookmarks to the one of this browsers and then upload bookmarks to “My XMarks” account, and then you can install XMarks chrome extension to Chropera and download the bookmarks from “My XMarks” account.

      I hope you understand my comment ;)

      • al_ghul

        yeah xmarks DO really really good job, especially when one uses several browsers. bookmarks are then save for a long time…

  • Nowhere Omen

    Not bad. I’m starting to get hopeful that when Opera 23 is released, I’ll finally consider it the equal of Opera 12.

    • guest6768

      If Opera 21 has for the common user only one new feature (showing http: in the addressbar) compared to 20, (the rest is engine-related stuff, bug fixes and issues ironing) I’d say you have to wait a lot more to consider it the equal of O12. With the current numbering and slow development I’d say Opera 140. (if they plan to reach to those AAA standards of O12 which I really doubt)

      • Nowhere Omen

        That was an important feature for me. Only a few more and I’ll finally be happy.

    • gekitsu

      23 might be a bit optimistic when it takes several versions for just showing the real website address instead of a cosmetically chopped up one. i mean, that was one of the simpler things.

      proper cookie handling, customisable UI, bookmarks/useable bookmark API with a slew of extensions, the broken default search engine implementation…

      i think we might be talking something basically useable around versions 35 or 40. given the devs don’t get sidetracked by mindfarts like getting rid of bookmarks in the first place, or implementing konami code nonsense for basic settings.

      • Nowhere Omen

        I can work with the search engine customization. There’s a good extension for bookmarks (check out Tidy Bookmarks). The cookie handling actually doesn’t trouble me. There’s even a decent extension to replace the RSS feeder.

        I have to swallow the fact that mail will never be implemented, but I still have hopes that will be added as an extension by the users also. It is so darn annoying to need a second program to handle mail. I don’t want to have to look for my mail — I want it to come to me. As long as there is eventually an extension though, I’ll be able to handle it.

        The only things left before I can switch from O12 are a mail extension and bookmark synchronization. If I can get that I’ll swap. I admit that I do prefer the way that Chrome handles page rendering, so I keep my fingers crossed. I think that may happen soon since they have added synchronization for everything else and the users have been doing their best to add in O12 features when they can.

        • gekitsu

          with all the feature clutter they said their product had, and they needed to get rid of to somehow “compete” with the dumb browsers, it really offered a lot of different things to a lot of people, didn’t it? among all the opera users i know, no two browser configurations looked alike.

          i, for example, never used opera’s mail features, but for me, controlling which cookie gets set and which one doesn’t during browsing is a necessity. also a necessity: not being tied to what someone’s idea of a good UI element placement is. i mean, no matter how they do it, it’s inevitably wrong for someone out there. (and no disabling browsing history? WAT? no way to get rid of google? doubleWAT?)

          overall, i wish they’d focus on keeping a solid feature set in the browser itself, not letting extensions do the job. extensions mean multiple standards of quality, unreliable compatibility, potential for all kinds of incidental conflicts… that’s not a good price to pay for things that a browser should be able to do on its own.

          • William Stam

            “with all the feature clutter they said their product had”

            download size: 15mb max

            current download size: 30+mb

            and they chopped a ton of stuff out.. surely the size should go… down? lol

          • gekitsu

            oops. :)

  • ruaman

    Three things that will make me permanently switch from Opera 12 (Presto) to New Opera (Blink) are

    1) Proper bookmark
    2) Full functional Opera link (bookmark, history, SD, password, auto fill, tabs ,and extensions)
    3) High DPI/PPI support

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Things that would bring me back to Presto and wish comeback one day (that I can think of now):

      1. Dropdown arrow in address bar.
      2. Status bar (such a killer feature).
      3. Zooming from status bar.
      4. Search in page from status bar.
      5. Syncing from status bar.
      6. Proper Link.
      7. Tabstacking.
      8. A tiny download (not very important this one).

      Things that prevent me from turning back:

      1. Unstable as hell.
      2. Compatibility even worse.
      3. A terrible bookmark manager.

      Things I don’t care about:

      Bookmarks. You guys have been complaining and whining in such a stupid way I already hate bookmarks. Everything goes the Speed Dial way now.

      • Emanuele

        Everything goes the Speed Dial way now.

        LOL …. sure, believe it

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          Does it look like I need Bookmarks?

          • Emanuele

            the fact that YOU don’t store much URLs doesn’t mean that no other one in the world should not do it too… Is it really needed that I’ve to explain such things? O_o

            I don’t need support for Facebook since I don’t use it… Should Opera remove it?

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            The fact is they provided a solution. It doesn’t have to be called the same as before.

          • gekitsu

            their solution arguably does the same thing as bookmarks did, but:
            * at the cost of the time it needs to access any one item. when you make the speed dial into a menu, it requires mouse movement all over the screen and a click for every folder level.
            * at the cost of dropping speed dial as a place where you store a well-curated selection of links you want to access with one click.
            * at the cost of wasting screen real estate. a text list is more space efficient than anything you could do with speed dial or the quick access bar. given that opera 15+ already is too wasteful in that regard…

            and there is nothing that a speed-dialised menu adds to the idea of storing bookmarks. it only imposes limits and decreases usability, for the sake of appearing hip and oh-so innovative.

            that is what is called a bad solution. plain and simple.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            It works. Plain and simple.

          • gekitsu

            it might be adequate for someone with simple needs, i don’t argue that.

            it doesn’t do the job for someone who spends any sizeable amount of time with it.

          • al_ghul

            indeeeeeeed bro!!! for people who start their first browsing with browsers of era with speed dial, often there is no need for bookmarks system because of small amount of data/maybe not too big knowledge. the problem comes where data amount is growing…beautiful looking turns out to be too little to be effective with tons of information with lot of categories…I’m imaging about bookmarks which accept more than one categories (not folders) – just like in gmail, where i can have one link under several categories, not dubbled/tripled/and so on ones. that’s my dream. maybe somenone has a clue (browser which can do that?).i had a dream…

          • William Stam

            i have a ton of bookmarks which i use for work.. most of the pages look the same.. the data changes.. how will speed dial “bookmarks” help me? i cant give them unique names.. i cant see the url without hovering over each 1.. i dont use the pages daily.. but when i need to find something.. at least i can find it in oepra 12..

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            ” i cant give them unique names”
            How come?

          • rufu2

            I would like to upvote this 10 times…
            Naming bookmarks (also “shortcuts”) and seeing the URLs are very necessary for quick and easy access.

          • al_ghul

            in new opera all to do is to click click click…just for a sport;) what an absurd:/

          • Azrael

            Only for simpletons doing simple things.

          • guest6768

            This, as well as Discover is copy pasted from Opera 14, the mobile phone version that have started it all. Hense all those absurd drawbacks that don’t belong to a desktop browser. What do you expect? They ‘ve brought QAB only after so much whining and in what form…

          • al_ghul

            yeah yeah RIGHT!!! it simply displays that people here didn’t used advanced settings in ld opera or other browsers…so they do not know that there is some good practices with that matter.and there is no need to discover america, but only reuse old BUT GOOD solutions.

          • Emanuele

            they provided a solution that doesn’t do what bookmarks did…. this is the fact

            When I’ll be able to access my sites without leaving the current page, or open the browser without waiting for a page that doesn’t load because of the large amount of data it has to manage, or have a no-chaotic view of my links, or manage all of them (move thought folders, store nicks, tags, description, etc) with easy…. then the solution provided could be proposed as the bookmarks

          • al_ghul

            yeah, that’s it. people don’t see such special behaviours which really makes browser effective! it’s like they’ve never used old opera or some browsers with that options on.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Clearly, you have never used a bookmarkLET.

          • Azrael

            Cute. So if you barely have 31 bookmarks it must be the same for the rest of us. Sorry, but i have 631 of them, and a fully customized storing of them in 83 folders within folders.Here’s an average example
            Now explain me how can i make this work with the Speed Dial

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            There♥9s no status bar in the new Opera.

          • Azrael

            Who said anything about Chrapera?

          • al_ghul

            yeah that’s the point…huge amount of bookmarks with extreme fast displaying is a must, not beautiful looking thumbnails with extra effects. it must be effective, folder-like iterated structure, and bookmark menu, and better – bookmark window/extended bar is needed to manage this. not simple start page with the most opened new-pages. speed dial is NOT bookmarks and was not created for this.

          • al_ghul

            or change speed dial and add possibility to group other bookmarks entries like a simple list with folders, like in bookmark manager. it can be under the speed dial thumbnails. if, of course, it could work fast and effective.

  • xen

    How odd. I am one of those strange people who like Opera’s speed dial + stash bookmark model which is why I am still using it. However, I seem to perpetually keep waiting for the next version to become stable because it has some basic feature that should have been there from the beginning. Right now it’s 20 and the ability to change the encoding (actually, a big deal in countries not using latin alphabet for their main language), next it’ll be 21 with the ability to show the full url (not a big deal but should be trivial to implement).

    Don’t know what to make out of this.

    • guest6768

      They are slow and they don’t have the same AAA standards any more. So don’t expect much. Updates are mostly about fixing issues and bugs. They are still at version 15.21

      • Leonardo Gomes

        If you think you can do better: http://www.operasoftware.com/company/jobs/list

        • Emanuele

          Nope. If you think you can do better: http://otter-browser.org/

          • gekitsu

            bookmarked :) thank you!

        • guest6768

          No, I prefer http://www.mozilla.org.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            So why just you don’t go us etheir browser? Opera is just a browser, a software, nothing that our lives depends on, so if you think that Opera no longer fits your needs, if you think other browsers are doing a better job, you are free to go and use them.

            Staying here just to post the same things over and over again, playing jokes on developers and so on is pointless and won’t help Opera becoming a better browser.

          • guest6768

            I ‘ll go there to work after your suggestion, it has nothing to do with using.

            Apart from that, you and the other fanbois are the ones that should leave first, cause as fanbois you are against any progress and any criticism that others make.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Nope, i’m not against progress and also i’m not against well made criticism, i’m just against the stupid ones.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Having used this build since yesterday, I must say that, even though HiDPI is off, I seem to like how Opera looks now on my 1280*1024 screen with 125% Windows font size. The main and context menu font size is good, the Bookmark Bar is also shown with a proper font size. There are just a few places where the font should be larger: tab headers, address bar, and the SD page’s context menu. Apart from that, I’m quite happy with how it looks now and not lacking HiDPI anymore.

  • mixal11

    Are customizable mouse gestures in a roadmap ?

  • Oskar

    Cool! Works pretty well.

    Is it just me or is the speed dials behaving really strange? They have been like that for a while. Sometimes they just go away and a blank page is showing instead and I can never make them the size I want any more.

    I use Opera Developer as my everyday browser, mostly because I really want/need Opera sync. I would gladly switch to Next the day it has sync. I think Opera Developer is starting to have enough features to be as satisfying as Opera 12 now.

    Requests:

    -To see what pages play sounds.

    -Would be really happy if I could remove all the search engines I don’t use, for example would I rather have “y” stand for youtube than yahoo.

  • Ra-Mon

    I still believe your new Opera browser is natively designed for IE/Firefox/Safari/Chrome users. So, why don’t you implement some features to easily import data from these similar browsers ? Why don’t you launch big buzz, awesome marketing actions or massive TV advertisements to promote your new product to the huge targets of IE/Chrome/Firefox users ?

    • http://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      For the same reason they do not update Opera 12.16 users yet: It’s not ready yet

      • Ra-Mon

        This new product is far not ready to replace Opera 12.x (i think it will never do!) but it seems enough good _now_ to be an alternative to IE/Firefox/Chrome (good performance, real-web-compliant rendering engine, same minimal features set, major addons available…).

      • gekitsu

        i wonder why they don’t openly admit every version since 15 being practically a beta. people download this from the front page, expecting a full-featured product.

  • andluc melive

    I have an idea! The user can switch from the ‘classic’ bookmark bar in an icon ont he left of the address bar, and when pressed show the classic bookmark menu.
    In this way we save space for the internet page…

  • http://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

    Dunno if it’s only me, but this version sets back zoom to 100% for every single page (continue where I left off) every time I open the browser.

  • MarkG54321

    Anyone seeing problems with Adobe PDF plugin now showing PDF files in the browser?

    • The Solutor

      I confirm, it doesn’t work

      This build looks like a disaster.

  • taneli

    Another issue, was surfing imgur.com, checked on my IRC client, aaand, couldn’t bring Opera to front anymore when clicking the Opera window (that was behind the IRC client), had to minimalize the IRC client so i could access Opera again (even though about 90% of the browser was visible, but clicking it while it was on background just didn’t do anything.)

    • taneli

      Just happened again on this very page, closing the tab didn’t help this time… only way to get it to work again was to restart the browser.

    • taneli

      For more clarification… an image!

      So, red dots are just random places, doesn’t matter where in side Opera you click, it just won’t bring it to front.

      http://i.imgur.com/pZ08OU4.jpg

  • http://zdenekvecera.cz Zdenek Vecera

    Hello,

    some “Advanced keyboard shortcut” do not work.

    Dev version (21.0.1419.0) – work only: , . z x 0 9 6

    It does not work keys “1″ and “2″ for “Cycle through tabs left” and “right Cycle through tabs.”

    http://help.opera.com/opera/Windows/1326/en/fasterBrowsing.html#advanced

    Do you know how to run the “1″ and “2″, please?

    Thank you!

    • L33t4opera

      They are disabled by default, you can enable this feature in:
      O-Menu->Settings->Browser->Shortcuts, tick the “Enable advanced keyboard shortcuts” checkbox.

      • http://zdenekvecera.cz Zdenek Vecera

        Sure, it got turned on. But as I wrote almost all the keyboard shortcuts work, do not work only keys 1 and 2. Which just do not understand…

        I have a clean install Opera Dev.

        Thanks.

        • L33t4opera

          Can you check these: the “1″ below the “!”, and the “2″ under the “@”, and not those on the numeric pad?
          Both of the keybindings work correctly here on my desktops.

          • http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

            So the “1″ below the “!”, and the “2″ under the “@” works for me OK.

            Keys “1″ and “2″ on the numeric pad not work. They would work or not?

          • L33t4opera

            You can remap these keys as you want, just follow the below steps:
            1. Close the Opera,
            2. Go to the Opera’s profile directory
            (find the path in O-Menu->About Opera->Paths->Profile),
            3. Open the “Preferences” file in your favourite text editor, and edit it as follows:
            {
            "Keybindings": {
            "Advanced": {
            "SwitchToLeftTab": [ "Num1" ],
            "SwitchToRightTab": [ "Num2" ]
            },
            "Settings": {
            "AdvancedEnabled": true
            }
            },

            Cheers ;-)

          • http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

            Perfect, you solved my problem.
            Thank you very much!

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Oooh, but that’s cool! For everyone tired of Ctrl+Shift+T for re-opening last closed tab:

            "Keybindings": {
            "Basic": {
            "ReopenLastClosedTab": [ "Ctrl+Z" ]
            }
            }

            Does not work when the text input is in a text field, but otherwise, it does. :)

          • L33t4opera

            You can try “Ctrl+Shift+Z”:
            {
            "Keybindings": {
            "Basic": {
            "Redo": [ "Ctrl+Y" ],
            "ReopenLastClosedTab": [ "Ctrl+Shift+Z" ]
            },
            "Settings": {
            "AdvancedEnabled": true
            }
            },
            or “Alt+Z”:
            {
            "Keybindings": {
            "Basic": {
            "ReopenLastClosedTab": [ "Alt+Z" ]
            },
            "Settings": {
            "AdvancedEnabled": true
            }
            },

          • http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

            Hi, I’m one more question. How to make a rebind for Paste & Go? (Currently CTRL + SHIFT + V)

            I would like to remap it to CTRL + B, I added the following line:

            “PasteAndGo”: [ "Ctrl+B" ],

            But it does not have any effect.

            Do you have any ideas please?

            Thank you!

          • L33t4opera

            Hi Zdenek, you can remap it as follows: "Basic": {
            "AddToFavorites": [ "Ctrl+Shift+V" ],
            "PasteAndGo": [ "Ctrl+B" ]
            },

          • http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

            Thanks, but unfortunately it does not work. When I do that, as you write, so Ctrl+B does not respond, and Ctrl+Shift+V behaves as before (Paste & Go).

            I deleted the other shortcuts that we have solved in the past days, but even so it did not help.

            Version: 21.0.1419.0

          • L33t4opera

            The first ten lines of the “Preferences” file should be as follows:{
            "Keybindings": {
            "Basic": {
            "AddToFavorites": [ "Ctrl+Shift+V" ],
            "PasteAndGo": [ "Ctrl+B" ]
            },
            "Settings": {
            "AdvancedEnabled": true
            }
            },
            In my case “Ctrl+B” for “PasteAndGo” works the same way, as for the default keybinding “Ctrl+Shift+V”.

          • http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

            Yes! It works, thanks a lot!

            If someone wanted to use it, here is the complete set:

            {
            “Keybindings”: {
            “Advanced”: {
            “CycleBackwardInActivationList”: [ "4", "Num4" ],
            “SwitchToLeftTab”: [ "1", "Num1" ],
            “SwitchToRightTab”: [ "2", "Num2" ]
            },
            “Basic”: {
            “AddToFavorites”: [ "Ctrl+Shift+V" ],
            “PasteAndGo”: [ "Ctrl+B" ]
            },
            “Settings”: {
            “AdvancedEnabled”: true
            }
            },

            Thanks again! :)

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Do they never work? on just some pages? or only when you have focus (set by clicking) in certain areas of the browser?

      • http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

        Yes, it never worked on any page. It works only in Opera <= 12.16.

        It does not work even though the focus is not on the page elements (buttons, inputs) or the address bar.

        Mouse to click on the above list (tab) page. Then press 1 or 2 (on the Num pad), but without effect. For example, if you click on the key "dot", the search field appears correctly.

  • Кostadin

    Flags:
    Threaded compositing disabled for Win7 with this version?
    Smooth scrolling removed?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Threaded compositing disabled for Win7 with this version?

      Have you checked opera:gpu? Here it says that threaded compositing is on.

      Win 8.1 here.

    • Ghirahim

      It was removed, I noticed that too! ;_;

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Incompatible with Aura, if I recall correctly.

      • Ghirahim

        It will be back, right? RIGHT? When? It’s awful without smooth scrolling.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        But I don’t get how opera:gpu shows it is on.

        Do you mean in about 3 months we can kiss those features goodbye? are you planning to release 21 that way?

  • Tüütlüm Ohaya

    Why Opera has constantly so many problems with Youtube ? I can’t even click of many of them. Yes, i know that they changes their layout and technique sometimes, but all the other browsers always works finde on Youtube. That’s a real no-go with Opera.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I guess you could also ask “Why Youtube has constantly so many problems with Opera?”

  • rafaeljvieira
  • justSQL

    I have no idea why you deleted my comments, but at least you did read them in that case. My comments followed your comment policy.

  • Vux777

    couple of guys mentioned that cool opera://about/thanks page, so I’m using it as example…

    Is it possible to fix that annoying selection bug(!?) by selecting only text characters like in old Opera, and not the whole divs/elements/white space/mages…. ?

  • http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

    Hi, request a question:

    1) Please add to the context menu for the right mouse button click “Send link by e-mail” (as in the old Opera).

    2) You plan synchronization (Opera Link) for passwords, Speed dial, extensions, etc.? If so, in what time frame?

    Thanks!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      About #2: SD is already available on Sync. And yes, they said that there are plens to improve the items available for syncing.

  • Franciszek Baranowski

    OMG! This version is revolutionary! So many improvements, so many changes, so many… I’m kidding. :P

    • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

      Yeah because other browsers add revolutionary changes in every new version right?? Troll.

      • Emanuele

        Yeah because other browsers add revolutionary changes in every new version right??

        No, other browsers no… only Opera did it… but this was in times when probably you didn’t know it or you’ve some problems with your memory :P

        • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

          No, you have a problem realizing how much time there was between each new version back then. Now there’s only 2 months between each.

          • Emanuele

            nope… who said “Yeah because other browsers add revolutionary changes in every new version right??” wasn’t me but you…. If now you’ve to find other excuses to justify your wrong assertion isn’t a problem of mine

            FACTS:

            1) Opera-Presto used to add big changes in every new version.
            2) Opera-Blink don’t

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            1) Opera-Presto versions with new features used to come out at the frequency of about 1 year.
            2) Opera-Blink gap is 2 months.

            I hope you can understand now or perhaps stop acting like you’re an idiot that can’t get this.

          • guest666

            This arrogant guy call others “idiots” in flagrant disregard of the rules of conduct here in this blog, and mods does nothing about. My post will be deleted but his post will not be deleted, who bet?

          • guest6768

            Yeah he is the most disgusting fanboi troll attacking anyone.

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            Owwnn.

          • William Stam

            opera presto had versions coming out about a year apart… true.. but the new versions had some pretty decent changes to them.. between the “new versions” were a ton of bug fixes / refinements.. like every week there was a blog post.. (i had opera blog as a speed dial entry) if i recall correctly they had new versions on most thursdays.

            anyways.. its been more than a year since opera went blink.. and the “changes” are very small in comparison to the old opera..

            “top priority” was bookmarks after the comunity went ape on them.. look how “usefull” bookmarks are.. 4 “versions” and about 4+ months have passed.. we still only have a bookmark bar with no proper bookmark manager

            as to your closing remark.. you really seem to fit your own criteria

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            No, you are delirious…
            The changelogs MAY be smaller, but maybe it’s because there are less bugs now? Also, a single bug could take more time and effort to be solved than 20 bugs. Do you want to simply quantify that?

            Also, some of the major latest changes were rolled back. Like OOPP in the 32-bit version (the one they started serving as default for everyone) since it was very crashy.

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            FACTS:

            1) Opera-Presto used to come out after a year or so.
            2) Opera-Blink comes out every 2 months.

          • Emanuele

            Yeah because other browsers add revolutionary changes in every new version right??

            Reply: Yes, Opera-Presto did it.

            Next time think better your question if you don’t want find excuses.

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            LOOOOOOOOOOL

          • Emanuele

            TROOOOOOOOOOL

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            You.

      • justSQL

        Some do

      • Nekomajin42

        When they have so many missing features, they should speed up the developement, or at least reorganize to give some visible features in every release just for a show.
        Full URL is really great, but it took months to implement, and it should have been implemented in the very first build as an option.
        So yes, they deserve some sarcasm.

        • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

          They don’t owe you full URL, they have other things to prioritize.

          • Nekomajin42

            Please stop this marketing shit.
            It’s not about owing anything to anyone. It’s about stupid decisions. Do you really think it takes more than a few minutes to implement something which already exists in a different form? It was insane not to build this option at the begining.

          • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

            Blink is a different engine than Presto. That’s why Opera Software are building Opera on Blink from scratch.

          • Nekomajin42

            What are you talking about? Showing the full URL is not magic. The browser has the URL you enter. They had some twisted idea to trim the protocol and the query, but the software still had the full URL. It was just hidden. With this new option, it just skips the trimming. Building from scratch has nothing to do with it.
            I’m OK with insane features like this, if they are optional. Even if it is the default. But a lot of people asked full URL, a basic, simple option. It took them month to implement, and now this is the only visible new feature in this build. That’s why a lot of us disappointed and angry.

            Come on guys, how many code lines did this new feature require? A dozen? And you talk about priorities.

          • gekitsu

            this! the problem boils down to:

            someone, somewhere, thought it a good idea to apply work to a bit of data to make it into something that contains less information than before, specifically as a display version.

            and it was a bad idea, exemplary of a problematic mindset.

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            I keep my comment. They don’t owe you the full URL just because you disagree with their decision.

            It’s not a matter of time.

          • Nekomajin42

            I keep my comment too. I did not even mention owing anything to anyone. You used the word because of some unknown reason.

      • gekitsu

        other browsers dont have to work their way up after randomly starting from scratch and releasing a rendering engine with a slap of paint and calling it a browser.

        • guest6768

          Some fanbois will never learn.

  • Daniel Anghel

    i seem to have some issues with google maps. i see scrambled images. they started with this version of opera.
    http://i.imgur.com/Es28bXK.png

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Google Maps seems ok here.
      Using Win 8.1 if it matters.

      • Daniel Anghel

        windows 8 64 bit here

  • _artem_

    after the update taskbar icon disappeared (became blank piece of paper). and on my sister’s pc opera hangs after the update… nothing is clickable, nothing is loading… it just opens, shows the tab bar with open tabs, bookmarks bar and nothing happens, clicking on opera button opens a white popout which has nothing. deleted profile -> opera loads as should… moved backup’ed profile -> opera hangs again… removed profile one more time, moved backups file by file to get know which file causes opera to hang… haven’t finished checking all the files… opera got all her opened tabs without a hang, all the extensions working. BUT no saved passwords… I guess I haven’t copied passwords file back -> which one is it? where are all the passwords saved, is it LoginData?

    On my pc the only issue is missing icon, properties show there is icon but it doesn’t show up on taskbar (after pc restart icon is back) BUT there is nomore 3d box icon inside of the launcher.exe ONLY the flat one.

    • Wolf-2

      I have the same problem, like your sister.

      After I fresh installation, it starts fast, but the second start of Opera Dev, it take again Minutes, until the quickview is shown. Also no Passwords, abut the password-Manager is still not usable, so I use the most of the time keepass.

      • Dmitry Kirin

        If Opera takes an unusually long time to start and one of its processes reads too much data on startup (check that with Task Manager), then look in your antivirus/firewall settings for an option called “Enable
        detection of changes in applications,” “Check integrity of network application executables,” or something like that. Disable it. This has been a cause of similar problems with at least ESET and Comodo security suites.

        • Wolf-2

          I try to find something similar in Kaspersky, but still have the same problem. Even if I turn of “Security” of Kaspersky it need a long time to start.

          • Dmitry Kirin

            The most unobvious thing was that switching ESET components didn’t help. Only that specific option turned out to be effective.

        • Vux777

          in ZoneAlarm it’s called OSfirewall (or something like that)
          I had problem with that… it took 10-14 sec for opera to start
          you were the first suggesting that could be a problem problem ツ

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Yeah, I remember. A classic WTF case. :)
            Alexei Shpakovskii from Opera was the first to suggest it was something with ESET rather than Opera.

        • Nekomajin42

          I have only Panda Cloud and built in Win7 firewall, but this new build starts extremely slowly. Parts of the window is black, and it’s not responding. It may be because of the Aura, but it is some new level of slowness.

          • Dmitry Kirin

            Try using Winternals ProcMon to see which files are read from the moment Opera is launched till the moment SD is shown. If opera.exe is read several times in small chunks, it’ll look like the same case. I thought it was some bug in ESET, but as other security products do the same, I suspect that is some proper technique of checking if an executable is going to try and modify itself right after start.

    • Dmitry Kirin
      • _artem_

        Thanks, will do that tomorrow (today, to be exact)

      • _artem_

        Thanks that helped

  • pureocean

    Thank you adding finally for Full URL. And fixed prefix issue of URL (cannot be copied clipboard to URL prefix after pressed CTRL-X).

    But I don’t like new scrollbar and new text hightlight (color hex: #328efd).
    Both it’s annoying…

    I know, new Opera have to following Chromium. I know, Chromium’s contain changes that I have mentioned. Even so I wish, Chromium’s that new changes shouldn’t be adding to Opera…. Because I want use to Opera, not Chrome 31.0.1650.63 or above versions.

    Could you know Chromium’s stable build (1700 – 1750 and even if 1825.4!) CPU using is high? Build 1650 and previously is normal.

    Beisdes, Font rasterization still broken in Disqus and some sites. An example screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/bWJULpo.gif

    I reported the issue here:
    https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=304766
    But Chromium Developers don’t care it. :)

    Thank you for reading. I hope, this comments helpful for Opera Team.

    My system info:
    CPU: Amd PhenomII X3, 4 GB RAM, Radeon 3200, WinNT 5.2 x86

  • pureocean

    Thank you adding finally for Full URL. And fixed prefix issue of URL (cannot be copied clipboard to URL prefix after pressed CTRL-X).

    But I don’t like new scrollbar and new text hightlight (color hex: #328efd).

    Both it’s annoying…

    I know, new Opera have to following Chromium. I know, Chromium’s contain changes that I have mentioned. Even so I wish, Chromium’s that new changes shouldn’t be adding to Opera…. Because I want use to Opera, not Chrome 31.0.1650.63 or above versions.

    Could you know Chromium’s stable build (1700 – 1750 and even if 1825.4!) CPU using is high? Build 1650 and previously is normal.

    Beisdes, Font rasterization still broken in Disqus and some sites. I’d reported to here before months ago:
    https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=304766

    But Chromium Developers don’t care it. :)

    Thank you for reading. I hope, this comments helpful for Opera Team.

    My system info:

    CPU: Amd PhenomII X3, 4 GB RAM, Radeon 3200, WinNT 5.2 x86

  • NanoPi

    on a 720p screen (and lower resolutions), part of YouTube’s guide menu is covering part of the video even when the menu is never opened. if the playlist/subscription “more” is opened, an extra rectangle covers the video.

    • al_ghul

      have the same thing…

    • Ice007

      Confirmed.

    • senna_4ever

      Sega? Good :)

    • NanoPi

      made a temporary fix using Stylish:

      .appbar-guide-menu-visibility, .appbar-guide-iframe-mask { left:-900px; }
      .show-guide .appbar-guide-menu-visibility, .show-guide .appbar-guide-iframe-mask { left:0px; }
      .guide-flyout-visibility { left:-900px !important; }
      .flyout-shown { left:208px !important; }

      • James

        Worked for me! Thanks!

  • dim

    http://imgur.com/Q4sgZhX

    still there, no Aura seems to be able to fix this

  • Steffie

    v21 bugs i’ve experienced, which i’ve not seen already posted here:

    1. The unfortunate hassle of the Downloads button not hiding once the download list is cleared, has returned in this build.

    2. Random thumbnails in “TabsPane” extension [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabspane/fopflmabgkkmpcbdcgogaoohldoelhpd] are blacked out [worked ok til v21].

    3. Constant hassles logging into this blog with Disqus [with Next 20.0.1387.37 AND Developer 21.0.1419.0]. To post this comment i’ve had to, ironically, use Waterfox. This must be unique to me somehow, given there’s so many of others’ comments here, & i presume you’re not all using non-Opera to do it.

    Win7 x64.

  • mohd fuad yasin

    my youtube player broken..pleaz fix as soon as posibble..

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Something I still miss: If there is a link on a page only as text, not clickable, you can rightclick it and say “Call Web Address”, but not “Call Web Address in a new tab/window”. Mostly I would like to open links in a new tab. Maybe it’s not too much work to implement this feature.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I think it should be some global option: open search (and similar) results in either current tab or a new one, like in Google preferences, where one can choose how to open search results. Would add some predictability to the UI behaviour.

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      Totally. Like a middle-click or a Ctrl-click on the option could be used to open the URL in a new tab. IIRC this worked in old Opera.

    • Pesala

      Shift + Middle-click

      • al_ghul

        nono! he means I think links which are not parsed in site as clickable link – some not complete links withouot www/http etc. strings, which are e.g. fragments of link, which also works as it.

    • al_ghul

      totally agree – several posts ago I had similar preposition. up this!:)

  • dflyra

    Am I wrong or the non-disappearing download button problem returned?

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Confirmed. W7x64.

  • dflyra

    i’m repeating myself but…
    1. i would like to be able to categorize, search & manually sort stash items.
    2. i wish pinned tabs could always stay pinned – even after restarting opera – and every link from a pinned tab would open in a new tab, leaving the pinned tab unaffected. i think this is the real meaning of pinning a tab.

    • guest6768

      1. We ‘re saying that since version 15.00… Now in 15.21 and still nothing. And the cursor should go straight to the text field like it is in history for fast searching, in other words “click on stash and type”.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        It’s only a wish, that can be granted or not. If and when they think it would worth implementing that feature, they may do it.

        If not, life just goes on.

  • oic

    I don’t know if anyone noticed, but this version is quite a resource hog. I have multiple tabs open and browser open while playing a game and I noticed my game is lagging badly. I close the browser and suddenly the game is smooth again

    I never had this problem with previous versions

    • Nekomajin42

      It can be because of the Aura. I think it will improve in the next builds.

  • senkal

    Thank you for great 5 years with Opera.
    After that you killed what was best and switched to Chrome clone.
    Even the cloning process isn’t done right.
    I use only Linux so for you I don’t exist and you don’t give a f*ck about me.
    Using my old, great Opera for the last time.
    Now I will use FF, not as good as old Opera but with extensions can be used.
    It’s a pity watching fail of great product but sometimes happens.
    Good luck to you all !

  • Dmitry Kirin

    It’s been quite a while since I last wrote long lists of my feature requests. I would very much like if the following was implemented:

    1. Streamline the main menu:
    Keeping the “Speed Dial” item only makes sense if it turns the current tab to SD, like its toolbar twin. Currently, it’s the same as new tab and there’s no difference between the actions “new SD tab” and “new tab with startpage.”
    Remove “Add Extensions”. Place Sync and Compression Mode along, as ‘cloud’ services. Merge Other Tools with Developer Tools, making the Show Dev Tools a power option in Settings. Make Plugins a tab in Settings.

    2. Add keyboard shortcut hints into context menus.

    3. Make Settings chapters dialogless (e.g. search engines as a tab section, not a dialog).

    4. Create an image context menu option showing the image properties. Better, if it’s capable of showing at least some basic data from EXIF, date being the most valuable.

    5. Add to Settings the options to control disk cache: disk cache folder (–disk-cache-dir), maximum cache size (–disk-cache-size), maximum media cache size (–media-cache-size). The sizes should be chosen automatically and available for modification. Automatic value should leave 5-10% of disk capacity free.

    6. Aggressive disk usage is part of Chromium. If Opera can’t organise cache in memory for the non-private mode, then it would be great if a RAM disk driver was bundled into the package and installed for use as a cache space. It would be a respect to SSD and put Opera ahead of other Chromium browsers.

  • thunder13

    Is big problem with blocking ads for version Opera 19 to 21. Filters Adblock Plus is actual and these identical filters good blocking ads in Firefox. Problem is propably in Chromium engine (https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=324548 ). Please fix it.

    In Opera 19 blocking almost all advertising elements (in versus Firefox identical filters), but in 20 and 21 not blocking or blocking very few.

    • beBoss

      I have problem with adblock too. It works for me, but to works you have to refresh the page. I mean when you load a page, the adblock doesn’t work. Needs refresh. If you open something in new tab from this opened page, in the newest tab adblock doesn’t work, needs refresh, and then it runs correctly

      • thunder13

        I know that. It makes no sense. ;|

      • taneli

        Many other extensions seem to break down too, when opening another page into background, really, really frustrating at times when you heavily depend on things like adblock on sites that has 95% of BS (ads, unwanted elements, etc.) and 5% of what you actually want to see, and need to open links to a new tab.

  • meh

    Moving the mouse pointer over speed dial’s tiles (do a circular movement over them) makes the CPU usage go insane! In idle I get less than 10% usage.
    Either fix it or disable it. Seriously, the fan spins like there’s no tomorrow until I click a tile so the speed dial page goes away.
    I reinstalled Opera, no extensions added, no nothing.
    http://i.imgur.com/UaaTBPe.jpg

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Confirmed. On my Core2Duo 3GHz, moving the mouse pointer in circles over SD leads to the consumption of about 50% CPU time (split among 3 processes).

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve noticed that cpu usage grow but not in a way that i could call insane.

      • Dmitry Kirin

        It’s not even the absolute value of CPU usage that is weird. It’s what it can possibly be calculating so hard while we only move the mouse pointer.

    • http://www.opera.com/ Grzegorz Miazga

      CPU jumps a bit for me, but it isn’t really higher then on regular web pages. Does it reproduce for you with clean profile? Any details about graphic and other system hardware?

      • meh

        On regular pages it’s fine. Just on speed dial and only if I move the pointer over tiles. Or at least that’s what I’m aware of. Clean profile, just some settings done (in Settings, not experiments) and a few speeddials added.
        ASUS P8Z77-V | 3770k | GTX 680 | 16 GB DDR3 | WD VelociRaptor 500 GB | Windows 7 SP1 X64

        • http://www.opera.com/ Grzegorz Miazga

          From the screen it seems you got high resolution. Could you check if it also reproduces with lower resolutions? I’m on 1920×1080 here. It doesn’t act same when you hover over links on reddit.com? Speed Dial is written in HTML mostly so shouldn’t act really different the similar pages and it just links there with some images.

          • meh

            Yes, the same at 1080p. However I noticed that CPU consumption lowers as I lower Opera’s window.
            On reddit I see some usage, but not like on speed dial. 30-40%
            Surprisingly, I just tested on reddit, it’s lower than Chromium’s usage, yet higher than some other browsers including Opera 12.

  • Shiny_sp

    Dear developers, please tell me whether you are going to do the side tabs? I would greatly appreciate this feature in previous versions of Opera. Something like this:
    http://files.myopera.com/kmarszalkowski/albums/11957322/Opera_to_many_tabs_800x.png

    • guest6768

      No answer means bad news, did you expect something else? There’s not gonna be anything vertical, this browser is coded as closed as possible for compatibility for all platforms and devices.

      • Shiny_sp

        Yes, i did. I expected for whatever answer from Opera’s staff :(

        • rufu2

          I think it has been said a (long?) while ago, that they were planning to bring the side tabs back. As well as a lot of other tab handling things. But I have no idea how the current priorities are.

    • rufu2

      Do you remember the “windows” panel? For some situations, it is even better than tabs on the side. And it scrolls! Hopefully, in a future version, it will be back, too.

      • Shiny_sp

        Yes, I remember this feature. It was really convenient

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Another performance issue:
    I launch a video on this site, then pause it. A single Opera process eats 50% CPU time. Even when the video is paused. Even when the tab is in the background. IE11 consumes 1% or 0% when in the background.
    http://moonwalk.cc/serial/7467080b81829038ac4e2559891c15fd/iframe?season=1
    (In case you want to reproduce it: When you click the big Play button, an ad page and a countdown in the videoframe are shown. After 5 seconds, the countdown changes to a link which actually starts the playback.)

  • Cryio

    Opera, I have a problem.

    I have been using Opera-Blink since the O15 beta, but I have no idea where to report bugs now.

    I want to give Next/Dev a shot, but I know it’s pointless because I don’t know where to blow of the steam (steaming cloud of bugs or issues :D )

    Can you point me in the right direction?

    • Nekomajin42

      Bug report wizard: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/
      You can also post bugs here.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      You can report bugs here: https://bugs.opera.com/wizarddesktop/

      To discuss about them, just comment on the last post referring to the stream on which you are facing the problem.

      So, if the bug is on a Next build, you post it on the last post regarding Next. If Developer, the last one regarding Developers.

  • Leonardo Gomes

    A question about tabs hibernation: after how long a tab starts to hibernate?

  • Calypso

    Come on guys, you’re wasting time on completely useless things. Opera 19 is useless, Opera 18 is semi useful, Opera 12.16 was probably the best Opera so far.

    Focus on making Opera customizable again – what we really need is tab bar placement (up, down, left, right, wherever we want it to be), keyboard shortcuts that we were used to. And of course, less strictness on pages that have errors, currently Opera 18 is handling such pages much better than Opera 19!!

    Also, ability to disable auto-update would be a nice thing to have. New versions of Opera are less usable than old ones!!!

    • gekitsu

      a solid FUCK YES with regards to customisability. that was one of opera 12’s really strong suits – no matter how well you think your UI is made up, it will not be adjusted well for some people. the best solution, inevitably, is letting people adjust it for themselves.

    • al_ghul

      and maybe automatic address bar disapearing, like also status bar, tab bar, bookmarks bar, ability to changing theirs positions – it will be great not to loose web page area on the whole screen – we have wider than higher – so why everywhere these horizontal bars?

  • hylik

    I just noticed that “view frame source” don’t work properly and it show the same content of “view page source” (in last O20 Dev & Next it works fine)

  • Osamu Maki

    Unfortunately, this version causes freeze at my Asus T100TA (app only). I reinstalled the final Dev 20 and the problem was gone.

  • Ghirahim

    Please fix YouTube as soon as possible.

  • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

    Will Opera be supported on Windows XP after 8 april (the end of technical support of XP)?

    • justSQL

      Windows Xp will only be dropped from security updates, programs will work just fine

      • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

        Ok.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Sadly yes.

  • IllusionMH

    Why you always broke developer tools in new way every build?

    Steps to reproduce bugs:
    1) Open two tabs.
    2) Open developer tools on both(in docked mode)
    3) Bug #1: Both have same content even on different pages
    4) Close DevTools in second tab
    5) Switch to first tab
    6) Bug #2: black area instead of DevTools

    Windows 7 SP1 x64

    Anybody can confirm this?

    • Vux777

      also…
      img info in devtool resources is overlapping with images
      http://prntscr.com/2vg0uy

      • IllusionMH

        Yes. Same prblem with image info here.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      ??? I don’t understand what you mean. Which developer tools? Do I have another Opera than you?

      • rufu2

        Ctrl-Shift-I or
        Menu > Developer tools > Web Inspector

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          So why doesn’t he write Web Inspector when he means Web Inspector? And where is this “Devtool Resources” with “Image info”?

          • rufu2

            See the screenshot from Vux777: In the Web Inspector there is a menu item called “Resources” on top, then on the left under “Frames” you can find the “Images”. But I cannot recreate the overlapping image thing (Win 7 x64)

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Ah, ok, so it’s “Developer Tools – Web Inspector – Resources – Frames – 33226719 – Images”. Looks different here (from the screenshot). But ok. Now I know what you are talking about. Thank you.

          • Vux777

            need’s to be bigger than devtools window hight
            try to check img info on this image
            …or some flag is doing that again in my (and IllusionMH) case

          • rufu2

            Ah, I think I see what you mean. Yes, the info is on top of the image and is not well readable.

            Could you make a screenshot with that second example? Because the first example is irritating or misleading – is it a screenshot of the inspector that is being inspected??

          • IllusionMH

            Sorry, I don’t saw menu, but detached window is called Developer tools. http://take.ms/IzvCl

            I don’t know why old webkit’s(Safari) name isn’t dropped in favor of Chromium’s Developer tools?

            BTW, any info about Dragonfly? It is still in future or this idea is dropped?

    • rufu2

      Yes, I can confirm this. The black area after 6) goes away when you use the menu to start the “inspector” again.

  • Raphael Ramalho

    when will us have old style bookmarks?
    I dont like bookmark bar

  • rufu2

    Thanks for the new Developer version. Lots of small and useful changes, some big ones, too. Thanks for the full URL and Ctrl-Backspace! Slowly getting better all the time… I’ll be testing…

    Is there any chance to have a roadmap for future features? It wouldn’t have to be specific about dates. I’d just be interested about the priorities of development: which features are planned “soon”, “later” or “sometime”.
    “soon” = “we are working on it, and it’s going well”
    “later” = “we’ve started playing around with it, but it’ll be quite a while before we show something”
    “sometime” = “We definitely want to do this, but it will have to wait for now”.

    Then we would know what to expect, and also, what not to expect back. E.g., will the side panel be back “sometime”?

  • Marco

    Congratulations
    The first totally unusable version (besides the miss of smooth scrolling):
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=game%20of%20thrones%20dracarys&sm=12
    Try to click the first entry.

    • rufu2

      Works for me on Win7 x64
      What is the problem?

  • Marco

    “The main highlight is integration of Aura on Windows. Aura is a hardware-accelerated rendering of the browser, including the user-interface. This enables less-taxing UI animations and a general sleeker and more responsive feel to the whole UI.”

    Any examples?

  • Alexander

    Had a huge problem with this build: after start CPU goes crazy and opera freezes. The problem was solved by deleting files “History” and “History-journal” at AppDataRoamingOpera SoftwareOpera Developer.

  • João Gonçalves

    This build is showing me an empty (blank) speed dial page that has never happened me before. This is a rendering bug in Aura, I guess.
    If I hover the mouse above the blank speed dial area, the mouse icon behaves as the tiles were there.
    If I close and reopen Opera, the problem disappears.
    After I few minutes, the problem gets back.

  • WB

    I wish sync was ready so I could have access to my favorites (Speed Dial/Stash/Bookmarks) on my phone. That will be possible, right? Will it take much longer to get ready?

  • taneli

    Hokai Devs, you can do it! Some inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dduDnjc6JhA

    Or if you’re into the more old school stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEHIwxGA17Y

    With those you should get these things sorted, right?

  • Dave-H

    Anyone else getting problems with pdf documents opening in the Adobe Reader plugin?
    I’m sure this was OK in earlier versions, but trying to use it now in Opera 21 just results in the browser permanently freezing and having to be forcibly terminated in Task Manager!

    • taneli

      I use Foxit for PDF’s, and i must say, in this build, they work almost too fast.
      I have this online schedule PDF in my speed dial, previously i just clicked it and waited for some 10 seconds or so for it to load up (it’s just some ~100kb, so, fast to dload).
      But now, click the speed dial icon and BANG, it’s there in 0.5 seconds, that’s about the time it takes to dload it, so i guess they’ve improved how external addons work.

    • Piotr Karol Żółtowski

      Maybe you have this problem beacuse of Aura (new feature both in Chropera and Chrome), of course if you use Opera Developer 21 ;)

      • Dave-H

        Could be that, although the plugin works fine with the latest version of Google Chrome (33.0.1750.117). In Opera if I open a PDF in a new page I just get a “loaded” message from the plugin, but a black page, and although the browser doesn’t freeze, the content never appears. If I call a PDF from an already open page, the plugin page pops up, but when the file loads the browser permanently freezes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala
      • Dave-H

        Thanks Hector!
        Yes, I could try those and they would probably work, but that’s not the point.
        The Adobe Reader plugin should work, and did on previous versions!
        Just reporting the fact. :-)

  • Akbalder

    I tried to use this new version for a few days but there’s too much problems/lack of features to keep using it!

    - It’s not possible to select the text within a link
    - It’s not possible to make new tabs to open on the right of the window
    - Shortcuts from the numeric pad don’t work (1, 2 and .)
    - Popup are opened in new windows instead of new tabs
    - There’s no information about the size of the page, the size already downloaded, the download speed… (user can’t know why a page is loading slowly)
    - When downloading a file, it’s not possible to open it without saving it first
    - A single image opened in the browser isn’t centered in the tab
    - It’s not possible to see the proprieties of an image
    - The plugin on demand feature is missing (Flash video playing automatically in the background are unbearable)
    - It’s not possible to modify default search engines (to use English instead of local language)
    - It’s not possible to change the css of a page

    Will these bugs/features be fixed/implemented? Do you know when?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      You can register the numeric 1 and 2 in the file Preferences (close Opera and backup this file first!)
      “Keybindings”: {
      “Advanced”: {
      “SwitchToLeftTab”: ["1", "Num1"],
      “SwitchToRightTab”: ["2", "Num2"]
      },
      “Settings”: {
      “AdvancedEnabled”: true
      }
      } …

      Running plugins on demand is already available: Settings / Web sites.

      Applying custom css files is available for extensions. I’ve created such an extension to get rid of Facebook ads. There’s nothing complex: a simple manifest file of 460 bytes and a css do the trick.

      • Akbalder

        Thanks for your answer.
        It helps but there’s still a lot of stuff that Opera needs to work on.

    • Nekomajin42

      To center position the images you can use extensions too. The Image Autosizer or the Rotate Images works fine for this purpose.

      Anyway, I totally agree with you. Lots of small features are still missing.

    • guest6768

      With the current development speed and the main focus on mobile phones and tablets I’d say it could be possible in Opera 140 or never.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      - Shortcuts from the numeric pad don’t work (1, 2 and .)

      Enable advanced keyboad shortcuts in Settings

      The plugin on demand feature is missing (Flash video playing automatically in the background are unbearable)

      Even with “click to play” enabled on Settings?

    • WB

      - Popup are opened in new windows instead of new tabs

      I would like to see that fixed but probably it won’t since its the Blink behavior, right?

    • L33t4opera

      It’s not possible to modify default search engines (to use English instead of local language)

  • of

    I can’t launch browser after update. I have about 20-30 tabs and it’s freeze after launch. Is there anithing I can do with that?

  • Vux777
    • nanana1

      It’s been withdrawn now. :p

      • Vux777

        yes, they did, but…
        I’m writing this from it :P

  • ABDX

    can you please add an option to make the browser give you a small pop up box under the download circle asking you to save, save as and cancel instead of automatically starting download, as there is a lot of sites which download .exe files without your permission. I know that there is an option to ask me every time, but its just an annoying save as dialog

  • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

    @Aeyoun:disqus one of my comments in this post was marked as spam according to DISQUS’s dashboard. It was not spam.

    I know there’s another one marked as “removed” and I understand the reason but this one was marked as spam.

    Can you recover it?

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      We check it daily, but the list is veeery long. It will be recovered when we get through the list.

      • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

        Thank you.

  • Michiel Bester

    Does using Sync actually synchronize with the server or does it only grab the speed dials? I add new speed dials but never see it on OMini or 12.16. Might’ve missed a post or 2 about Sync, so sorry if it’s common knowledge.

    • Nekomajin42

      “Sync” works only with the Chromium-based desktop and mobile products.
      The old system, named “Link” works only the Presto-based products.
      When you first connect to the Sync service, it grabs some data from the Link service, but this is a one-time operation. After this first connection, the two services work independently.

      • Michiel Bester

        what about my bucket load of bookmarks then? And when will OMini support Sync then? :| Guess I’m sticking with 12.6 a little longer.

        • Nekomajin42

          Well, that’s a good question. I think eventually Link will be shut down and Sync will take its place, but that’s not official.
          Maybe one of the devs should reply too.

  • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

    Full URL, finally! :)

  • Mr. Operaniac

    My SD thumbnails disappear from time to time after creating a newtab, but they`re still clickable.

  • Dmitry Kirin

    After a hardware hangup today—such as when the mouse pointer isn’t responsive,—I switched off the PC using the Power button. After restart, Opera was taking a very long time for launch, around 10 seconds till the SD thumbnails were shown. For a second, the thumbnails were shown as empty (a grayish Earth globe), indicating that thumbnail reading was taking some time. I didn’t find anything wrong in the Procmon trace, except that the same operations were having longer durations.

    The problem was resolved by deleting the History file. It was sized at 2 MB—not too much, theoretically, for an SQLite database. Compacting the file did not help.

    Just wanted you to know there may be a problem with History reading. It may also have the same roots that the recent problem with the previous version’s History files.

  • odinuv

    Every time I open 4+ tabs, two of which are editing google documents, the CPU goes to 100%.

  • rufu2

    Just noticed: It is now possible to watch Vimeo videos with click-to-play! Thank you!

    • Vux777

      yea, they fix it couple of weeks ago (dunno if dev or NEXT fixed that first)
      but, I’m still having trouble fast forward video
      mouse click on loaded content is not recognized
      surprisingly, on embedded Vimeo videos works fine…

  • http://lemcgregor3.wordpress.com/ Léon McGregor

    I seem to be having trouble with site that have embedded flash players. When I visit places like http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow it shows a “opera is not responding” message in windows.

  • taneli

    Few problems:

    - flickering when howering “fade” or animated links
    - doesn’t load Extensions when using “open in background” (Middle mouse click (also the scrolling gets somewhat silly if you use –enable-smooth-scrolling))

    - no Speed Dial, well, it is there for a minute but never to be accessed again, just a white page.
    - Extensions like Disconnect and HTTPS Everywhere crashing pages when the page has some plugin content (like flash), embedded youtube videos will crash
    - Embedded flash or any other plugin will crash the page.

    Another note:
    Watching a Twitch stream, CPU usage is at 18% o.O
    Usually at 0%.
    (not a plugin problem apparently since i’m doing the same on IE, FF, and Chrome with 0% CPU)

    Yeah, only touched the very severe problems there.
    Hope those will get some attention.

    Edit: On top of that, i got the whole page crashing for me when submitting. aah,..

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Looks like the switches limiting the cache size, --disk-cache-size and --media-cache-size, do not work. The cache grows well beyond the limits.

    • Vux777

      I had strange situation with last two dev builds and chrome canary
      when placing switch for cache dir into target field, it didn’t work
      so I thought they forbidding it in newer builds
      but, once I actually manually wrote command line switch into field (instead of paste it), everything started to work…dunno why.. ๏̯͡๏
      maybe they cancel it and in next build allow it again (chrome update)
      your question reminded me of it…

      • Dmitry Kirin

        I guess some of the dash characters weren’t actually ‘-’ but #150 or #151 instead. Autocorrect does that. I’ve had this before, copying some cmdline from a webpage and having n-dashes instead of ‘-’, slanted apostrophes instead of regular ones, etc.
        Not this case here, I’ve checked.

        • Vux777

          OT
          this is a second or third time that your comment is not shown on my dashboard as reply
          do you have similar exp?

          • Dmitry Kirin

            I remember a comment wasn’t shown for a while once, a long time ago, but some hours later, it was back. As for the notifications, I don’t pay much attention to them and don’t know if any of them were not there.

          • Vux777

            lol
            again, no reply from you
            my previous comment is latest (on top), and you replied 2h ago
            http://prntscr.com/2wp1nw

            …gotta love disqus

  • Petar Pavlov

    I updated to 21 running on Win 8 Ent 64bit I have flash version 12,0,0,44 installed, My i5 M540 is consumed on 25-35% by opera.exe when running flash. Let me know if I can assist in analyzing this issue

    • http://nwxsn.blog.com/ nauval2007

      I experience this too, about 25% on my Notebook, Win 8.1 32bit. I can feel it slower than Opera Next 20 when playing flash video

      • Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

        I think this will always happens on Opera Dev. On Next or Stable everything will be fine, so don’t worry :P

  • Marko Koivuniemi

    I suggest option to show flags sorted by most recently changed. So I could easily see what went wrong. My Windows Pro 8.1 64-bit system has behaviour that crashes Flags-page when trying to change option from list.

  • John Doe

    I’m sometimes having problems with an Opera process using 100% of one core when it is running in the background. When the tab of the process is activated, everything’s fine.
    I’ve encountered this on feedly.com and search.maven.org, so far.

  • senna_4ever

    I had problems to use this verson and I wanna reinstall it. But I need do a backup of Sessions, Favorites, Thumbnails, History and Configurations. Where Can I find those files?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      The best thing is to backup the whole profile folder. You can find the path on Menu > About Opera.

    • al_ghul

      it’ll be nice to have dialog window when exiting opera, like in old version, and some options with that in settings to control that – if to save or not.

  • dflyra

    sometimes i encounter the following problem: opening speed-dial in a new tab results in a completely blank tab. reloading the page doesn’t solve the problem and i have to restart opera to see the speed-dial again. in general, speed-dial seems somehow ‘reluctant’ in this version of developer. is it my problem or somebody else out there has faced it?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve started to face a similar problem: when Opera starts, the Speed Dial page is blank but it loads after a while.

      I guess it may be related to some flag.

  • netmain

    thanks for the 21 !!
    sometimes the speeddial doesn’t load at all ! (see the screenshot)

    • Ghirahim

      MANY TIMES! White background is all I get.

  • Vux777

    if I click on reload and switch to another tab, reload/stop loading icon inherits state from previous tab (showing X instead of circle with arrow)

  • UMaster 7

    would be great to also be able to set maximum value of columns for the discover news preview items (like it is possible for speeddial items in advanced settings),

    Especially if you use Opera in half screen mode, this would avoid unwanted side scrolling in discover.

  • http://nwxsn.blog.com/ nauval2007

    I got black box in left side when playing youtube video , Win 8.1 32bit

    https://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-d.ak/hphotos-ak-ash4/t31/1980180_772539666097512_1667437262_o.jpg

    • netmain

      I have the same issue ! using the lite version of Youtube fixed that though !
      Also I have to point out, that closing opera after few hours of regular usage brings the whole OS to its knees, especially disk usage ( at 100% for about 1 min ) the offline cache flag is disabled though, (Intel dual core CPU, 3GO ram on win8.1 pro 32bit )
      and again, I don’t see the point of this stream ( devloper ) if it’s only for enabling chrome’s features ( aura, extenions APIs ) and introducing little things like (bookmarks bar after 5 releases and show full URL, hide google “ad” bar), the rest are regular fixes.

      • al_ghul

        light version? u mean “feather” one?

        • netmain

          yeah, that one :)

  • L33t4opera

    “For those worried that Opera’s Linux version will never be updated, read this
    (no new news but it might reassure you somewhat): http://ruario.ghost.io/2014/03/02/linux-and-blink-powered-opera/http://forums.opera.com/discussion/comment/15168388#Comment_15168388 ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    Scrollbar looks wird in FB, also a serious flicker happens in the headings area when you scroll up and down with mousewheel.

  • senna_4ever

    yeah, unfortunately i can’t use this build. I back to the previous opera dev build

    i have many open tabs in the current session but I was able to open in any opera dev, less this one. It gets a forever loading then crash. Is it not because that Aura?

  • Dmitry Kirin

    There is something wrong with the quick search in history:

    1. I want to open a page I have visited recently. I enter some keywords into the address & search bar.
    2. The address bar suggests a list of matching urls and page titles
    3. I choose the most appropriate title
    4. But that title has nothing to do with the url.

    On the picture below, the last line in the list shows an url for some picture search in Google, but the title refers to something totally different on YouTube.

  • Cherif Ayad

    I love Opera browser very much but there is a main problem which is how do I enable Chrome Extensions Button up till now I did not find a solution. If anyone have a solution contact me.
    Sherif Ayad
    sherifayad2010@live.com

    • Vux777

      what is a chrome extension button?
      extensions by default place icon on toolbar (if they have it) and you can disable that by checking
      “hide from toolbar” for every extension on internal page opera://extensions

  • L33t4opera

    New Opera Developer: 21.0.1432 ;-)

  • IllusionMH

    Please, add confirmation dialog to restart opera right after update finished.
    It is annoyng that you need close and open opera again.

  • Cherif Ayad

    I love Opera browser very much but there is a main problem which is how do I enable Chrome Extensions Button up till now I did not find a solution. If anyone have a solution contact me.
    Sherif Ayad
    sherifayad2010@live.com

  • al_ghul

    request for You developers: option in settings to have more rectangle, more compact O-menu which takes 2x smaller area: only O-icon. it can be little higher and narrow to resemble tab-button to easier click (of course with little difference to tab button-like today) anybody agree?-upvote:)

  • GoGs99

    mouse gesture on link from up to down open in new tab) PLEASE

  • NIBB

    No new features for the bookmarks since your priority is tabs and other features? I get it but how hard can it be to implement a damn shortcut?

    What most people complain here is they don´t want to see the bar all the time. Give us a basic way to hide it/show it like Chrome has with a shortcut. CTRL+B or Shift+B would do the trick.

  • Nazia Ali

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  • Henning Klemme

    This page https://www.itslearning.com may not work perfectly, log out when click on a link on the side. happens only in new opera. opera v12, firefox, IE and Chrome works perfectly

  • Willem Visser

    And still no Linux version. I think it’s to late because Maxthon now offers a great and incredible fast Linux browser.

  • Petar Pavlov

    I have serious issue with 22.0.1457.0.
    On start crashes and restarts after several restarts dies. Seems to be related to sync. Starting from page other than speed dial helps.
    Environment is Win 7 Ent, Intel Core 2, 4 Gb RAM

  • Rangsang Purnama

    I love Opera.. I’ve been using it for years.. the main problem I focused on current release of Opera is its download capabilities to recognize wether a file has been downloaded succesfully or not.. Opera always report the stopped download progress as succesfull, no matter it was success or broken process.
    I hope this problem will be solved on the next release of Opera..

  • HJS

    Hi my keyboard, apart from the space bar doesn’t work in opera since the last update. Why is this please? It’s version 12.7 and windows 7.

  • Νικος

    WHEN ARE YO GOING TO FIX THE sunchronise!!!!!!???????

  • Shawnee NatureClub

    Nice try. But this version of Opera is not installing on my old Pentium III computer running under Windows XP, with 917 kb ram. One of the error messages when the installer finishes says I am running an AMD cpu. NOT!!! I think some kind of serious bug fix is in order here. Please fix this and I will try updating at a later date.

  • caligula_gandhi

    I installed Opera 21. Installed addons I knew I need. Wanted to import my HTML bookmark file. ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS?!?

  • Yesu Dass

    no bookmark in oper 21 and importing bookmark menu in not working in my opera 21, how to find bookmark or there is no bookmark in this browser, please quickly change this by your updates i am realy stuck to use