Happy New Year! Most of the desktop team have returned from their holidays and are back to working on your favorite browser, so we thought it might be a good time to give you another release. Additionally, the annoying known issue from the previous build is now fixed. So no more crashing when activating find in page! \o/

A couple of the nicest improvements for today’s build are for our Mac users, so let’s start with them.

Highly compressed Mac packages

By switching to a different compression format, we have decreased the file size for autoupdates and network installations by a quarter! If you use the latest network installer you will benefit right away. Those using autoupdate should get the benefits from the next build onwards.

Improved Mac full screen mode

In full screen mode on Mac, the menu bar will no longer slide down on top of your tab bar. Previously, the menu bar would slide down on top of the tab bar when you moved the cursor to the top of the screen. All toolbars and the menu bar can now be visible at the same time.

Bookmarks popup improvements for everyone

This is not strictly new for this build but rather something I forgot to mention last time. We have changed the behavior of our bookmarks popup (the “heart menu”) with regards to folders. We now list the seven most recently used folders, even if they are deeply nested. Previously we displayed the top level folders. We are still experimenting around this area and would be grateful to hear what you think of this change. Do you like or dislike it and why?

As always thanks for testing!

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  • Linux users on non-debian based distros:

    Arch (AUR)
    Fedora / openSUSE (more info)
    • Gentoo (available directly)
    Other rpm-based distros
    Other non-rpm/deb distros

    • anonym

      thanks a lot (especially for the suse/fedora packages) 😉

    • firuz_u7

      сделайте 64-битный Opera для Windows я жду это с нетерпением

      do 64-bit Opera for Windows I’m waiting for it eagerly.

  • nanana1

    Thanks, Ruarí Ødegaard, for this first 2015 Opera update !

  • L33t4opera

    Thanks for the info and update Ruarí 😉 Happy New Year!

    Some new flags:
    – opera:flags#bookmarks-trash-folder: Enables a trash folder for bookmarks with new delete bookmark behavior,
    – opera:flags#tools-custom-controls-style: Enables experimental style for the HTML controls on internal pages,
    – opera:flags#show-autofill-type-predictions: Annotates web forms with Autofill field type predictions as placeholder text,
    – opera:flags#disable-javascript-harmony-shipping: Some web pages use legacy or non-standard JavaScript extensions that may conflict with the latest JavaScript features. This flag disables support of those features for compatibility with such pages,
    – opera:flags#enable-single-click-autofill: Make Autofill suggestions trigger on initial mouse click on a form element,
    – opera:flags#reduced-referrer-granularity: If a page hasn’t set an explicit referrer policy, setting this flag will reduce the amount of information in the ‘referer’ header for cross-origin requests.

  • Mr. Operaniac

    welcome! Happy New Year:)

  • ahoj1234

    the feedback about experimenting with heart menu and folders there:
    it’s simply not working at all 😀
    https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/12/opera-developer-updates-28/#comment-1760192646

    not sure if the guy reported it or just posted it. But one just can’t test it (at least some of us)

    EDIT: since it has started to work (for now… and I would bet it will stop in a while 🙂 ) the feedback:
    subfolders should be listed with a full root (for example folder is “films” subfolder is only “70-80%” with meaning of how good the film is according a database. But simply “70-80% without the main folder name “films” is not saying a lot. I would prefer reverse displaying like “70-80% <- films" in dropdown)

    • Lacedaemon

      same here

      • Guest
  • SuperTommy

    DNA-27479 [Tools] Implement a trash folder for bookmarks, thanks for the new year gift. 🙂

    • ahoj1234

      I have to thanks for SD finally in bookmarks! 🙂 What a nice build for some of us 🙂

      • SuperTommy

        Just enabled the flag and noticed. Very nice!

      • senna_4ever

        how to works that?

        • ahoj1234

          it’s under a flag right now. So if you feel that you wanna experiment a bit more, just enable this:
          opera://flags/#favorites-bookmark-backend

          and you will see “speed dial” folder in bookmarks. Then it’s nothing easier than copy the entry anywhere you want 🙂

          • senna_4ever

            oh, great 🙂

      • Cyrris

        Brilliant. Just wanted to add my thanks for this, been holding out for it for a while.

    • senna_4ever

      this was a xmas gift, kudos for opera 🙂

  • Lacedaemon

    Regarding the Trash folder, since it exists now -and folders can be retrieved as well-, asking for confirmation on deleting a folder (and multiple items) is redundant. (having to do one more action, and scaring the user for no reason). You could say I could just drag & drop the folder to the Trash but still the point remains 🙂

    Also I can share my Trash now 😛

  • IllusionMH

    After update all my speed dials(except Twitter) display default gray globe image.
    Tried to edit or add new – still globe.
    Win 8.1 x64

    Is there any way to restore proper functionality? E.g. delete cached thumbs etc.

    • Guest
    • Lacedaemon

      I’ve had that problem in the previous build and I think I deleted thumbnails.db in the Profile path, after restarting the browser it re-downloaded them.

      • Der Herr Nick

        Unfortunately, this didn’t work for me. 🙁
        Any other ideas?

        • Lacedaemon

          Ideas… #1 try to revert Speed Dials thumbnails to their default size first (if you ‘ve changed their size with the power user options) and set zoom to default 100%. Then try it again.

          #2 Try deleting Favicon file as well (make a copy of it in your desktop first) and restart the browser.

    • Oliver

      Did you activate the new bookmark backend for speeddial in the flags ( opera://flags/#favorites-bookmark-backend )? For me I have the same behaviour if the new bookmark backend is enabled, disabling it restores the thumbnails for me.

      • IllusionMH

        Thanks! Works for me.

        • Oliver

          Great, glad I could be of help.

          However I did some further analyzing …

          There seem to be 2 databases for speed dial entries: one for the above mentioned flag being enabled and one for it being disabled. For example, I enabled the flag some weeks ago and did some changes to my speed dial entries since then. If I revert to the “old” database by turning above flag to “disabled”, I don’t see the changes anymore.

          Another way to restore the thumbnails without loosing the recent changes to the speed dial entries is by disabling the experimental start page in flags ( opera://flags/#experimental-start-page ) while keeping the bookmark backend for speed dial enabled. This gives the old speed dial page layout with up-to-date entries showing the site preview.

      • Der Herr Nick

        Thanks a bunch!

  • Thansk for update.

    Did you fix DNA-31907, i have not found it in chanelog?

    Ah, trash folder in bookmarks. FINE!!!!

  • Lacedaemon

    Bug since initial O28 build: Drop-down list of folders in the new heart menu is blank.

    http://s30.postimg.org/li6nfo7oh/heart.png

    Have to revert to the previous one.

  • Wando Schneider

    Thanks Ruarí and Happy New Year!

  • Marc

    Regarding the bookmarks menu:
    – To switch a bookmark thumbnail, we now have to press the small little arrow which isn’t even centered in its circle: http://oi61.tinypic.com/155kiuq.jpg
    – To save space, you could put the View-in-Bookmarks button next to the Speed-Dial checkbox. Looks a bit lopsided now…
    – Too much box-shadow on the dropdown and checkbox, imho
    – A Remove-Bookmark option would be nice, too.

    Otherwise, thanks for the update. Really glad the find-in-page issue is solved now! 🙂

    • senna_4ever

      A Remove-Bookmark option

      A bookmark title edition too

  • Gustav Ekner

    Really good update!
    One feature request: It would be great if you make it possible to delete a bookmark from the bookmarks menu.

    • ahoj1234

      and set “My folders” as default when opening bookmark manager instead of “unsorted bookmarks” since unsorted bookmark folder is (supposed to be) empty. 🙂

    • senna_4ever

      it would be great to me too

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    “Search in Page” (CTRL-F) works again (puh, thanks!). Editing the first address of “Autofill” still doesn’t. Maybe the time was too short.

  • Rafael Luik

    Highly compressed packages

    Hm? ~32 MB just like the most recent 28 and 27 builds.

  • I’m begging you please give us an option to have bookmarks as a default new tab page. And so that I don’t lose all my tabs when I restart the browser at the same time. Is that really so much to ask?

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Maxim, you can install the “Custom Home Page” extension, and click the “Use Bookmarks” button on the extension’s settings page 😉

      • Hi whatever your name is. That extension doesn’t work well. First, it’s too slow and often I will see the speed dial instead of the bookmarks for a couple of seconds. Second, the address bar always has “bookmarks” typed in it. I have to manually select the address bar every single time I create a new tab. If you used that extension you would probably know this. Also, if you read the 3 reviews that are on that extensions page you would also see this. 😉

        • L33t4opera

          It works quite fast here (on Windows, and Linux), when I press Ctrl+T or the “+” button, it opens the BM page immediately.
          Regarding delete the url in the address bar: after you open a new tab, you can press Ctrl+L, and then Backspace 😉

  • wal ~

    Nice update. Speed Dial synchronization and search engine synchronization is not working on Linux. Is ever tab placement comming back?, I really miss placing the tab panel on the right.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Atm sync only syncs bookmarks.

  • ChrisG

    Mac – Programatic “open tab in background” behavior changed in previous build. Still broken in this build.

    The following code used to open a tab in the background. Now it opens in the foreground.
    var evt = document.createEvent(“MouseEvents”);
    if (platform === ‘Mac’) {
    evt.initMouseEvent(“click”, true, true, window, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, true, false, false, true, 0, null);
    }

    Same code still works in Chrome…

    • Vux777
      • ChrisG

        Thanks for the link. I tried using new MouseEvent but same behavior.

        I tried Vimium too, which also worked two releases ago, and it has also stopped working so I think this is an Opera issue instead of a deprecated API.

  • SQL

    Still asking for adding the option to open all links inside a folder to the sidebar (The list view of folders, treeviewish thing).

    Currently you can only open all tabs inside a folder by going into “My Folders” and doing it from there, which makes no sense since i really doubt that anyone uses it- at least i don’t.

  • Oliver

    Since the previous build I encounter some problem with the heart button. Whenever I try to bookmark a page, I can move the mouse over the button and get the tooltip “add to bookmarks” – but the button cannot be clicked and doesn’t show the dark hover state.
    A solution for this problem is to disable one or more extensions and enable them again. This makes the button usable like it’s supposed to be until the next start of Opera. It makes no difference which extension I dis- and reenable, any does the trick.
    To make sure the problem is not related to an extension, I disabled all installed extensions and restarted Opera – but that didn’t solve the problem.

    What I noticed in this regard is that extensions that are supposed to show their icon in the address bar (like IP Domain flag, Select like a boss) don’t show anymore. However, I can click in the white area of the address bar where the icon is supposed to be and the menu of the extension is opened.

    EDIT: After some testing I found out that I enabled opera://flags/#experimental-addressbar which causes the behaviour described above. Disabling the flag turns all back to normal.

  • Sidney Moraes

    Improve the fullscreen mod in Windows too!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Improve how ?

      • Sidney Moraes

        Make the adress bar and tabs visible in fullscreen.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          But then it wouldn’t be fullscreen.

          • Sidney Moraes

            They could appear when move the cursor to the top of the screen or hide when scrolling.

        • That would be equivalent to maximized window mode in Windows.

          • Sidney Moraes

            But it is what happens in Chrome, the difference is in Chrome they hide when scrolling (I am not sure because I don’t use Chrome since 2013).

          • Vux777

            maybe before (don’t know, never use it that way) but now only popup “exit full screen” is shown when sticking mouse to upper edge, no tabsbar, adress bar…

          • Rafael Luik

            LOL! Daniel, what about making the address and tabs bar appear when you hover the top of the screen or press F8 or Ctrl+TAB (so you can navigate to other pages, see the overview of tabs while you’re switching)…

          • Sidney Moraes

            I forgot Ctrl + Tab hehe Thanks 😀

          • So, … in fact you want a Windows 8 “modern” app?

          • Rafael Luik

            I think people just want a way to navigate to other pages somehow while on full screen. I don’t think that necessarily characterizes a Metro app, with the addition that Opera is multi-platform and this would be welcome to Linux and Mac users too.

    • Note that “full screen mode” on Windows whats called “presentation mode” (UI-less browsing in full screen). Mac has a separate system-level thing called “full screen” where the Mac system UI fades to the background and leaves only the app’s UI.

      • Sidney Moraes

        Opera could behave in that way in Windows. For example: make the tabs visible for a easy change between them.

        • SQL

          Well, it’s a built-in native Mac feature, Windows doesn’t offer the same.

          • Sidney Moraes

            Opera can have something similar, just have to show tabs and address bar in fullscreen. The way it is now is not useful.

          • SQL

            Except that it’s quite a lot of work to just write that inside the browser, without any native support for it. Whatever, if opera really wants to sacrifice their employees for such things then why not.

          • Sidney Moraes

            I can use Ctrl + Tab while it is not implemented.

  • Lacedaemon

    Previous +New Folder in Bookmarks heart menu (BHM) implementation was much better since:
    – it was right on the top of the list (you didn’t have to look for it in the bottom of your list)
    – it required one click to enter the name without the anachronistic ugly-looking extra window popup and was consistent with the way a new folder is being created in Bookmarks Manager.

    Also the previous BHM is much more slicker, I don’t think you need the big frame around the thumbnail although I admit that the entry about adding it to the Speed Dial was needed.

    • The idea behind the new design is to show you the bookmark title in exactly the way you will see it in the BMM.

      I don’t think space consumption is a problem in the popup. There is plenty of space, even on small screens.

      • SuperTommy

        The design isn’t finished though, visually wise? Like the buttons you select image between looks out of place, arrows are not in center etc.

  • hafasd

    It would be nice to have the ability to cancel adding new bookmark after clicking onto heart icon. Right now one has to open bookmarks and delete the undesirable item by hand. In fact that’s the same thing as posibility to remove existing bookmark from that menu.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      You can right-click the page area and select “Remove from bookmarks” from the context menu. But I agree, it would be much more intuitive to remove pages from bookmarks using the heart button.

      • hafasd

        Oh, thanks. I have missed this entry in the context menu.

    • ruduh

      You can use the extension remove bookmarks in one click – https://addons.opera.com/pt-br/extensions/details/remove-bookmark-in-one-click/?display=en

    • We will give you the option to remove a just added bookmark pretty soon. I will probably implement that on monday

  • aaa839

    after upgrade to new version
    The heart button next to the address bar not working anymore…
    any hints for fix?

    • Oliver

      Have you enabled opera://flags/#experimental-addressbar ? That’s what caused the problem for me.

      • Saskatchewan

        Disabling it worked for me as well. Thanks

        • Marcin Mitek

          We are doing some refactoring in that area. (For future reference, filed as DNA-32361, thanks).

  • L33t4opera

    “New folder with Selection” – useful option in the context menu on the BM page 😉

    • Glad somebody noticed it 😉

  • Milad Ebadi

    tnx but the problem remains bookmarks

    1.i creat folder in bookmark bar and drag drop site from adresbar and fivicon site too this folder . but dont creat bookmarked site too this folder !
    2. i love drage and drop from Fivcon site(in adress bar ) too bookmarked site but this is dont work in opera 28 ( in chrome and all chromiom soft this is easy)

  • escruting

    Isn’t the “bookmarks menu” the menu with bookmarks we have inside the opera menu? Why do you refer to the heart menu with “bookmarks menu”? Why keep changing?

    • It’s an error, we normally call it “bookmarks popup”. We will update the post soon

      • Sorry my fault! I have updated the blog post.

      • Sidney Moraes

        Bookmark popup is blank if you click it in a page that is bookmarked.

        • Can’t reproduce that … can you be a bit more specific? We had some issues when you enable the improved popup and the trash at the same time

          • Sidney Moraes

            Look : http://s2.postimg.org/lnw2gyoo9/bug.png The flag improved popup is disabled but it happens with it enabled.

          • Vux777

            Win7 x64 (this build) same situation
            steps to reproduce it:
            – I bookmarked this page, and closed
            – opened unsorted bookmarks, and removed bookmark
            – opened this page again ,but heart was red and popup was empty

            I think the problem is that heart is not refreshed to new state and probably reading wrong state (can’t find that bookmark)

          • The problem is the trash. If you disable the trash it will work

          • Vux777

            I did, but still empty popup and red heart for removed bookmark

          • L33t4opera

            Hi Vux777, turn on the opera:flags#bookmarks-trash-folder, restart the Opera, empty the trash, turn off the flag, and relaunch the Opera 😉

          • Vux777

            a haa..works now tnx
            is it by design that trashed bookmark is counted as valid? (heart red)

  • Nekomajin43

    This is a nice update. The bookmarks manager is slowly getting shape.

    Any news about the navigation bar? I’d like to put it back to the left side.

    • Sidney Moraes

      Disable it in opera:flags.

    • The “navigation bar” will stay on the bottom. There are no plans to change that. There are only plans to make the bar better

      • Nekomajin43

        Yes, really good idea to place the new tab button to the top and the navbar to the bottom. My mouse will scratch a hole into the desk, but never mind.

        Why don’t you make it’s position optional?

        • You are right, we should move the new tab button to the bottom

          • Nekomajin43

            😀

            But really, exactly why don’t you make the navbar position optional? It’s just a small piece of HTML.

          • plague

            Because that would bring choice to the browser.. Can’t have that. 😉

      • Guest
      • Lacedaemon

        That means you will scrap the default one from O15 and on (on the top)? Please give an option to choose (at least present in the flags) between the previous default and your new one for all these reasons:

        1. First of all having it at the top is at the height of the eyes which is super convenient. Your head is not 10cm above the table level to see the bottom of the monitor. Your eyes are at the upper half of the monitor.
        2. If you have your OS taskbar (ex: W7 superbar) at the bottom, you have 2 taskbars now with almost the same height on top of each other, which looks awful. I repeat: 2 -Taskbars on top of each other
        3. Having 2 taskbars at the bottom you can misclick down there and open a program shortcut instead of visiting SD or Bookmarks!..
        4. If you have your OS taskbar auto-hidden, having to move your mouse down there to your extra taskbar means you can activate it with a great probability, which is very annoying.
        5. A huge rectangular dark block from one side to the other limits the perception of vertical space even more in widescreen monitors, (which is what 99.9% of people use?)

        * Remember that >92% of the world is using Windows (=taskbar), I don’t know where you get those design ideas, maybe you think that >99% of the world uses Macs? I really suggest you try points 3 & 4 yourself because I think many @Opera are negatively affected by your Apple-fanboy colleagues.

        (Note: All evil with your problematic design begins with that huge Google banner of yours. My post is based on disabling it in the first place.)

      • x a

        I think you should re-evaluate that decision. Not only ergonomics speak against such a wide way to travel from major tab-switching controls (tab bar and nav bar, respectively); plain archaic geometry does either: think of custom desktop screen sizes and screen real estate – or additionally think in terms of typography: there’s a certain limit to reasonable line-lengths.

  • oic

    still hoping for the speed dial icon next to the url bar behaves like the heart icon for bookmarks. It should turn red when the speed dial is already added and remain grey if its not. The current design is inconsistent. You give this feature to bookmark but not speed dial
    – still can’t add bookmark “sub folders” in bookmark bar. The way I get around this is to add folder from bookmark bar then move them into other folders

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Which speed dial icon? The one on the left is a “go to speed dial/start page” one and not an “add to speed dial” one, so changing its color may not make sense imho.

      • oic

        there used to be a speed dial icon on the right where the heart icon used to be. It was useful because I could visually see whether I have the speed dial added already or not

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Happy New Year and thanks for fixing the find issue!

  • oic

    Is it just me, but are some webpages taking longer to load like youtube

  • dflyra

    Happy new year indeed! and two questions:
    1. Is there a way to pass speed-dial contents & settings from stable to developer? (perhaps by copying a certain – which – profile portion?)
    2. In the start page, how do I place the speed-dial/bookmarks/discover bar from the bottom (as it is now) to the side?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      About 1: you can copy favorites.db from one profile to another but note that it’s not recommended.
      About 2: not possible.

      • dflyra

        Thanks both of you.
        It seems that #experimental-start-page does not work in developer (as in other versions), so I must settle for bottom bar which I don’t like at all. On the other hand, the favorites.db worked fine and solved the problem. If everything was synchronized (bookmarks-speed dial-extensions etc.) what a relief it would be!

        • Leonardo Gomes

          It works, except for the thumbnails issue, but it has a new design now.

        • Lacedaemon

          Disable the WebUI navigation bar then you ‘ll have the default UI, like it used to be. It’s what I did. I can’t stand the bottom bar either.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      1.) You can either copy the whole profile folder or parts of it. Look into the help: F1 (https://help.opera.com/opera/Windows/1656/de/solutions.html#backup)

      2.) Disable opera://flags/#experimental-start-page

  • rabe85

    With this build, the dropdown is empty. It worked with the last build, but there were not the most recently used folders listed. I don’t like it at all to list the most used folders. That’s confusing and not very intuitive. I prefer a full list of all bookmark folders, where the last used folder is automatically selected. That makes it fast to save some pages in the same folder and is understandable for new users.

    • Lacedaemon

      yes, the last folder is desirable but not creating a mess with recent folders. It’s easier to have that (the last folder) and all the rest sorted alphabetically.

      • rabe85

        Alphabetically sorted is not that good. I’ve for example some folders with the same subfolder names in it. How should i identify them, if i only see 5 folders with the same name in the list?

        • Lacedaemon

          ?
          But it’s not possible to add a bookmark directly into a subfolder (yet or never).

          • rabe85

            In the last build, they had a few subfolders in the dropdown, so i could save new bookmarks directly into a subfolder. I don’t see a problem with it.

            My problem is that i have for example main folders like News, Books, Shops,… and the subfolders like A, B, C,… in each of that folder. So with an alphabetically sorted list, the list looks like “A, A, A, B, B, B, Books, C, C, C, News, Shops”. Which A should i use to save it in the News subfolder A? It’s the same problem with the most used folders, like it is now. It shows me folder C in the list, but i don’t know which of all my C-folders it is. I need a list like this: Books, A, B, C, News, A, B, C, Shops, A, B, C (with a bit more space or something else in front of the subfolders. Only to see that they are subfolders and not main folders).

          • Lacedaemon

            You are seeing a subfolder only because you did move a bookmark to a subfolder yourself, you can’t directly put a bookmark in a subfolder from the menu as far as I know. Only possible with Chrome’s Bookmark Manager where there is an arrow for going to the subfolder… who knows if that will come to Opera at some point…

            About the A,B,C problem the only quick way I can think that can work with the current (problematic) system is to rename them to Books, Books A, Books B, Books C etc.

          • It is possible, we show you the last seven used folders, regardless of their position inside your tree

          • Lacedaemon

            That’s far different than adding a bookmark directly to a subfolder. What about a different not recent subfolder? How would I add it directly? And recent subfolder is misleading, it only appears if you have moved a bookmark to that place using the Bookmark Manager.

          • No, we “touch” the list when you either create a new folder, move a bookmark to a folder or simply open it in the BMM

          • Lacedaemon

            OK you touch it in other ways as well, but the point still remains. You can’t directly bookmark a page to a desired subfolder of your bookmarks.

        • senna_4ever

          no list the main folders in first and when u pass the mouse over one of the folders, you see the subfolder

          • rabe85

            That could keep the folders list small, but is it possible to hide and show options in a dropdown?

    • senna_4ever

      i prefer a full list of all bookmark folders (with subfolders) than it. well, it’s possible to add the full list + a “folder” showing the recent folders

  • Opening the print dialogue crashes the tab.

    On the plus side, the browser doesn’t crash so no impact to other tabs.
    Windows 8.1 x64

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Confirmed here with Win10.

    • Lacedaemon

      Confirmed Win7 x64

    • Marcin Mitek

      Already fixed locally. Sorry for the inconvenience.

  • syplex

    Thank God the SEARCH CRASH was fixed! I think I crashed opera at least 50 times a day before this fix…. Don’t ever let a crash like that out of the door again please!

    • I did list a workaround that completely avoided the crashed. It was listed in the featured comment from the first day until this build came out.

      • Mike

        Except when Opera decides to think you’ve done Ctrl+F on it’s own… (reported as DNA-31981)

        • Hmm … I have never seen this issue, as far as I am aware. It is a little tricky to investigate since I cannot reproduce.

          • Mike

            Yea, the main problem is it doesn’t happen every single time 🙁

            Not sure if it’s related but if I put / into a contenteditable span and press enter, the find in page toolbar appears (this seems to happen every time though!)

          • NoName

            Please take a look at my answer to Mike, to see one way of reproducing this.

          • Ok, thanks for that. This all seems to be related to another bug with single key shortcuts that we are already looking at.

          • NoName

            That was my guess too 🙂
            Nice to hear that you are finally addressing this!

          • It may not be straightforward to address, given that websites are intercepting some keyboard events but we are certainly looking into it.

          • NoName

            Yea, I figured that.
            You have to be careful to not break websites, and at the same time provide simple browser shortcuts.

            I guess if any key is captured in JS, it should not return to the browsers key event handler. Except for special shortcuts that should be elevated to do it at all times.

            Take your time. Breaking websites would be worse than a partially broken browser feature.

          • Mike

            It affects all sites regardless of any intercepting of keyboard events. A simple page containing “” has the issue.

          • NoName

            Thanks for the info.
            I have created an extension that fixed this issue.

            You can download it here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1098960/o/AdvancedKeyboardShortcutFix.nex

            Please report back if you find any bugs using it.

          • Mike

            Works great! Can you set all_frames to true in the manifest for the content script?

            Just so that it handles iframes too!

          • NoName

            I don’t know when you downloaded it, but I have already set all_frames to true. The new version also greatly improve the fixing. It now works on all elements with contentEditable. Both Disqus and Twitter use this type of input.

            Try to download it again.

            I have submitted it to the addons.opera.com, waiting for moderation.

          • Mike

            Almost perfect! On my laptop, the values for the -, + and / keys are different to what you’ve got. I get:

            189 –
            187 +
            191 /

          • NoName

            Thanks.

            I did something stupid when testing (Disabled Advanced keyboard shortcuts), so + and – was not tested properly.
            I don’t have / on my keyboard as a single key, so this was not tested either. I assumed it was the ASCII values, so I just took those. I was wrong about that 🙂

            Try to download again, and see if it works now (especially /, as I don’t have that)

            Edit: Just updated it to support elements with the readonly and disabled attributes (15:21 UTC)

          • Mike

            Almost! Missing the 187 keycode for the =/+ key. I modified your previous one to include http://pastebin.com/B7aNtjMZ at the top of keyDownOverride() – seems to work fine but less elegant than the use of a Map.

          • NoName

            Yea, I found out about that.
            But I also found out, that those numbers are not unique. They also triggers on others keys, so it’s not working out yet.
            I also tried using event.keyIdentifier, but it ain’t unique either (failed on other keys).

            That keydown event is really a mess. I’ll look into it again tomorrow.

          • Mike

            You don’t need to spend time on it, the code in the pastebin works fine for me. Sure it’s not the best but it doesn’t bother me 😛

          • NoName

            Yea, but it don’t work for me 🙂
            That’s the problem. I need to uniquely identify the keys…

          • NoName

            Well now I did anyway 🙂

            I had to create an option site so each user can create there own mapping of keys (number keys added as default).
            It’s caused by different keyboard layouts.

            It also works with numpad numbers now (if you choose to add them)

            Please try it out.

            Link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1098960/o/AdvancedKeyboardShortcutFix.nex

        • NoName

          Could you try to explain how it’s done?
          Others might be able to help Ruari to reproduce it

          • Mike

            I assume Ruari would have access to the bug report but anyway…

            Basically, every so often, using a keyboard shortcut like Ctrl+L to focus the address bar (doesn’t have to be this one, the other Ctrl+key shortcuts do the same thing) cause another keyboard shortcut to fire as well (only seems to be Ctrl+key ones, eg zoom in / zoom out / open find in page / focus address bar / reload the tab / switch tabs).

            I do have the advanced shortcuts enabled so that pressing 1 or 2 will go to the previous / next tab etc…

          • NoName

            Yes, I know how to reproduce that. I have reported this several times in the past. It’s as old bug.

            1. Enable advanced keyboard shortcuts.
            2. Go to for instance google.com frontpage.
            3. In the searchfield, write something that contains “1” or “2”.
            4. Press Ctrl+F (Or another shortcut, as you mentioned), and it will now trigger the “1” and “2”‘s as shortcuts in the browser (changing tab).

            This can cause some odd behavior.
            It’s not the exact same example, but I think fixing this, could fix both of the problem we are having.

            Edit: google.com tries to hijacks keyboard events. This is what is causing it. Other sites does this too.

          • Mike

            Yep does it everytime following those. Can also type in + or – and the zoom in / out shortcuts will be triggered. Type in / and the find in page will open when doing another shortcut.

          • Thanks for detailing this for the devs. I got annoyed with this issue to the point that I had to disable adv shortcuts. Looking forward to a fix.

      • syplex

        If I had implemented that work around, I wouldn’t have had a working search as soon as the new version was released. I would have had to manually go to this blog every so often. Should have just disabled the search in code since it was a known issue.

        • If I had implemented that work around, I wouldn’t have had a working search as soon as the new version was released.

          You would have working search if you did the full workaround, which also suggested an extension. But yes, you probably would want to remove the workaround at some point.

          I would have had to manually go to this blog every so often.

          You should be tracking this blog if you are using developer so we can inform you of such issues.

          Should have just disabled the search in code since it was a known issue.

          I should mention that the timing for that release was down to the wire as people were leaving for the holidays. It was actually touch and go that we would release at all. There wasn’t time for a rebuild for all platforms, and a subsequent delay in the release process we follow internally (hint: after we produce an internal build we do not instantly make it public, there are more steps involved than that).

          As it happen, one of our devs had a fix for the issue by the time the blog post went live. But again we did not have the resources available to do another release before the holidays. For something critical, like a security issue to stable, we would of course pull people in and do updates at any time of the year but it is not fair to ask our people to abandon their holiday plans for a dev release.

          The options were to release with this known issue, which would still allow people to test the improvements or hold off until after the holidays. I personally think it was a better compromise to release with a known issue. Many people seemed to enjoy getting that last build despite the known issue and we certainly gathered some valuable feedback.

          Remember we make no promises about the stability of dev releases. Yes, they are generally pretty stable but this can happen. If you found it too unstable you could track beta instead.

  • Apocalypse

    Happy New Year! Any chances for “wrap to multiple lines” plz? This one feature is very important.

  • Habl

    We need x64 version for Windows. Please, please, please.

  • bonifacio

    thanks a lot!

  • Uh… the heart button doesn’t work for me anymore? As in, I click it and it does nothing?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Experimental address bar enabled by chance ?

  • vlado

    the heart menu is not working when activated from the address bar. if i right-click -> add to bookmarks, then it shows on screen

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Experimental addressbar enabled by chance?

    • senna_4ever

      i am with this problem since the last builds

  • still no sync 🙁

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Bookmarks are synced. Speed Dial also seems to be synced if you enable opera://flags/#favorites-bookmark-backend.

  • huynhminhdang

    The developer tools crash when I open Timeline tab.

    Now I can’t open developer tools anymore because it open with Timeline tab as default and close immediately.

    The same issue not happened on Opera Beta

    FYI: my dev tools is in separated window.

    • Michal Raška

      I have the same problem. But I was in Elements tab

  • Lacedaemon

    Shortcut for Task Manager please (ex. Shift+Esc)

    • Zik

      Agree. Really needed shortcut.

  • shane

    Has the back button implementation changed recently?
    There is at least one site that is no longer reloading when hitting the back button, like how Opera used to work.

    I prefer the way it is now, just curious if Opera changed or the site. Chrome behaves the same way.

  • senna_4ever

    as i said, I like the trash icon, good opera!
    but i request again:

    – A Remove-Bookmark option

    – A bookmark title edition too

    – a “description” option like in O12, to add any note and some key words to make easier to find a specific bookmark

    about the recent folders, i prefer a full list of all bookmark folders (showing in first the main folders and when u mouse over the folders u see the subfolders) than it. well, it’s possible to add the full list + a “folder” showing the recent folders, it would be good for all the tastes 🙂

    You are going to the right way, and lately for me is hard to praise the current Opera, but you guys are giving good shots, so keep the level up 🙂

    • Zik

      You can use title as description. Why not? Title can contain about 3000 characters.
      And yes. Remove-Bookmark option is needed.

      • senna_4ever

        yes, in a logical side, but not in a “looking” one.

        I have to use the title for this for now, but with the “description” i can add the info without get longer the title and in a subtle way. In O12 i copied part of a text into description sometimes. This way I remember of any info I would like and i have more chance to find the bookmark when I search it.

  • anony anony

    Nice and fast. I am using Seamonkey and chromium. Occasionally checking Opera Dev. Can you please add a shortcut for the bookmark bar to make it appear and disappear (this is the one which appears just below the address bar)?

  • Vitor Moreno

    Any one seem the DNA-30769(print preview / print broken) back or just me? It’s impossible to print something here on this version

  • rubydragons

    Web indicator force closes constantly after changing to Timeline tab.

  • PJMZR

    Opening and closing new tabs is slower than in previous built. Also there are some problems when watching youtube, movies freeze frequently (Win7x64)

  • SuperTommy

    Click the edit button on a bookmark in the manager, and right click on the selected bookmark to get context menu up. The menu appears behind the bookmark.

  • Jozka Jozin

    Hi,
    please add shortcut for typing password with dialog as in Opera 12.

    THX!

  • Dima S

    Can I move the bookmark to any other folder, which is not one of the 7 mostly recently used( without going to BM) ?

    • Lacedaemon

      Not with their new idea, no. You have to disable #improved-bookmark-popup in the flags to use the older (and better one) for that.

    • You can in the bookmark manager after you added it. The old version only showed you top level folders, this “last recently used” solution shows you all possible folders regardless of their position in the tree.

      • ahoj1234

        about deleting:
        it’s the same like with deleting. One just say “OK…” and hit “view in bookmarks” but.. it just open the folder! with another 10,20,50… bookmarks and now “delete it” (one just have to think about some key name to find the bookmark you wanna delete or scroll, scroll…).
        better to be able to delete it in the pop-up not manager. 🙂

        about moving:
        You can move from “unsorted bookmarks” to any folder BUT NOT TO SUBFOLDER without moving it to main folder fist, than to subfolder… (you can hover/drag bookmarks over main FOLDER but it will not open the folder to see subfolders? why? sad 🙁 )

        also presto based Opera could save to ANY folder without using “unsorted bookmarks” folder without opening the manager.

        That’s what’s is driving me off for now about bookmarks.

      • Nekomajin43

        I guess you assume most of the people use only a few folders even if they use the bookmarks at all. Showing seven folders may be enough for them. But there are people who use a lot of folders with a lot of sublevels. This solution is not good for them.

        So why don’t you show the whole folder tree? You again try to force us to use your tools as you imagine it, and the way we find it practical or comfortable.

        • I don’t assume what you said, I just told you a workaround

          • Nekomajin43

            Yes, the workaround is obvious, but very inconvenient and somewhat ridiculous.

            But how about this: do any magic you find good, try to read the users’ mind, but insert a search field under the folder list, so we can find _any_ folder we want. There is already a search in the bookmarks function, so it is not hard to apply to folders only. You can even combine the two fields.

            I know you want to be creative, but why don’t you implement the basic function first, and try to make it better after?

          • ‘I know you want to be creative’ – how do you know that? 😉

          • Nekomajin43

            Well, first you work for Opera. 😉
            Second, I am an IT teacher. I teach basic-level programming and I also write programs (mostly web and sooo many unfinished Opera extensions) in my free time. I like to express my creativity in coding and I assume (yes, again) that you too.

      • Lacedaemon

        So why don’t you show the whole folder tree? You again try to force us to use your tools as you imagine it, and the way we find it practical or comfortable.

        This.

        I have 21 main folders (because the way you treat bookmarks without a tree list on the left column is very painful to use *so subfolders became main folders) with some subfolders in them, so your latest “inspiration” is not helping me at all. I’ll give you an example:

        *Main Folders
        – Youtube
        – Youtube Games
        – Youtube Funny

        or

        – PC Topics
        – PC Games
        – PC Hardware

        Having the last ONE recent folder (as it was before) is desirable since while you are browsing for something specific there is a high probability that you will add multiple bookmarks to it, but when coming upon a random webpage and not showing its “category” is very very painful.

        I suggest you list all folders as it was before and add dropdown arrows to show its subfolders or do it the way Google Chrome Bookmark Manager does it with the right arrow that leads you to the subfolders.

        Also +New Folder should be at the top and with one-click to be easy as it was before and consistent with the way you create it in the Bookmark Manager.

      • plague

        This “solution” is very limiting for the reasons stated by Nekomajin43, Lacedaemon and others.

        But can also be very very confusing for beginners and non-tech people, since it’s not mentioned anywhere that it’s just a list of recently used folders.
        For those people it will look like that list i all there is and any folder not in that list will simply be “gone”.

        I can imagine the support calls for this:
        “Someone has deleted my bookmarks!”
        “Someone has hacked my computer and deleted things!”
        Etc…

        Oh yes, those kind of calls happen all the time.
        Trust me, I’ve been dealing with stuff like that hundreds of times at work, so it’s a very common thing.

        Having a folder tree of some kind, where _all_ folders are accessible, is simply the best and most obvious solution.
        The folder tree can be collapsed, truncated, or whatever, per default, in order to avoid clutter, but it absolutely needs to be expandable to show the entire thing if wanted by the user.

  • ayespy

    I don’t like the idea of “7 most recently used” folders being chosen dynamically by the browser any better than I liked Chrome’s original “speed dial” idea of populating the page with your most recently or frequently visited sites.

    I want to be able to quickly navigate to and choose even a RARELY-used shortcut or speed dial, not one the system thinks I must want right now because I was recently, or am frequently, there.

    A tree view in the manager is best. We need that.

    • plague

      Agreed

  • Patata

    Finally Tab stacking and integrated note feature!… Of course not in Chropera but MS’ Spartan Browser is rumored to get those features 😉

    • Lacedaemon

      You are correct:

      “Other features include a new way to group tabs together to declutter the occasionally messy interface of multiple browser tabs. Spartan will allow users to group tabs however they want, making it easier, for example, to split up personal tabs from work ones. “

      http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/8/7516489/windows-10-new-browser-spartan-features

      Thanks for the heads up.

  • Em-a-il

    This build sometimes uses much cpu:
    http://i.imgur.com/45fAdkP.png

    My laptop was at 85°C!

    • Dima S

      Same here. Is Opera supposed to use as much CPU as Chrome 39 does? In mine case, Opera takes even more with the same set of extensions.

    • NoName

      Is it specific sites that has this issues?
      Try take a look at Opera Task Manager to see which process is causing it.

    • Lacedaemon

      Were you watching a video in high settings and not fullscreen? That murders your CPU if you are using the PPAPI plugin.

    • Em-a-il

      It was this site: http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/transporter-sync-ihr-euch/
      Doesn’t look like any video-site…

      http://i.imgur.com/Q6rp6kJ.png

  • Michal Raška

    After updating to the latest version does not work site inspections. The window opens and immediately closes again. Ubuntu 14.04 64bit. My dev tools is in separated window and active is Element tab.

  • emsa

    Thx for fixing the “find-in-page” bug.
    However i have a problem with opening
    bookmarks since last version.
    —————————————————————————————————————–
    http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=a0f743f

    This webpage is not available

    The webpage at opera://bookmarks/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.

    —————————————————————————————————————–

    And like Michal Raška said before,
    i also have the problem with site inspection.

  • escruting
    • Lacedaemon

      4 months is a lot… I’d say either it’s not fixable by default (poor, simplistic coding as much as possible) or they don’t want to put man resources on it :/

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Or maybe it’s just not a top priority. Also, bookmarks seems to be yet a work in progress.

        • Lacedaemon

          When something is that broken, it should be top priority. Fixing the obvious is not an illogical request. And Bookmarks are work in crawling progress. It’s one man’s work practically, Thorben’s.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Well, a top priority bug is that one avoiding the regular daily use of the program for most users, which doesn’t seem to be the case here.

          • Lacedaemon

            This isn’t a bug though, it is bad programing skills or intentional apathy, in other words, “my code is broken -I don’t know how to do it-, but who cares…, I won’t invest any more time into it for the 5% that will notice it, and even if they notice it who cares…”

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Well, if you think you can easily fix it, apply for a job and do it: http://www.operasoftware.com/company/jobs/list

          • Lacedaemon

            They don’t accept me, I’m too perfectionist for their standards…

          • Have you tried to apply yet? Have a look at http://www.operasoftware.com/company/jobs/list/679 and go for it!

          • Why shouldn’t it be a bug? It’s actually quite simple to fix, 1 – 3 lines of code. But I still don’t think it’s very important, I used the manager for a lot of crazy test situations and I haven’t noticed that before. In fact, I had to read your instructions carefully again before I noticed that the situation is even wrong. If you all promise to be happy then, I will fix it tomorrow.

          • It’s fixed now, look out for DNA-32470 in the next changelog

  • Kurt Zon

    opera://flags/#favorites-bookmark-backend seems to cause my opera installation to crash 🙁

  • mb

    Still no explanation on why you dropped Bing as a search provider?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I don’t think it’s going to happen.

      • Nekomajin43

        But it’s strange when you think of their cooperation on mobile devices.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Strange or not, i still don’t think they will explain what happened, specially if related to contracts.

      • mb

        Even Chrome has bing as an option, the choices Opera sometimes make baffle the mind.

  • beBoss

    Speed Dials and Passwords sync when?

    • Nobody can say when!

      Password sync is very important!

      Because they are encrypted/bound to one user account on one OS and cant be copied between devices/OSes as it was in Opera 12.

      • beBoss

        “Can’t”, then how Chrome does it? Is not a serious answer…

        • I dont know what you want to ask. I may guess.

          No, you cant copy password databases between accounts and devices. Not even on Chromium. Di you try?

          Yes, Sync works in Chrom(e)ium. But Operas servers are not working correct for Opera Link/Sync at this time.

          • beBoss

            Well, what didn’t you understand?
            Opera uses Chrome engine, where password and many other things can be sync, but Opera didn’t implement SD and Passwords sync? I’m asking why password syncing is not here? You told me that is passwords can’t be copied/synced between devices and the reason is? Passwords can be copied and the Chrome is the example for this. And yeah Chrome passwords are encrypted, so Opera what’s going on, do you even work on something, cuz more of the things/options in Opera now are not working at all. For example Flash player problems, Bookmarks problems etc, and this is valid for “stable” version too!

          • Well, aks the Opera Devs, but dont get upset about my answers. I’m not from Opera!

            I’m asking why password syncing is not here?

            Because Operas Sync server software is a mess since about two years.

            Passwords can be copied and the Chrome is the example for this.

            No, Chromium cant copy the encrypted login database from one user account to another on same OS or on different target OS.

            Please, tell me how that can work. I need this knowledge.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      If you enable “Bookmarks backend for Speed Dial” in opera:flags, your SD will probably be synced as part of the bookmarks.

      Just note that this is a work in progress and subject to bugs, changes and other issues.

  • BUG: If I need to edit a Speed Dial entry with a long URL, I can’t properly edit that URL in place, because the string doesn’t move when I press End to go to the end of the string.

    • 1. What means “long URL”? Example. please.
      2. Which Operating System?

      On long test URLs it takes some seconds to go to the end of the URL with End key.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        It doesn’t matter if long or short. The “Home”- and “End”-keys don’t work and have never been working for editing Speed Dial entries in the new Opera. If you press one of those keys, the cursor simply dissapears. I remember, that this was mentioned many times.

      • 1. Any URL that exceeds the size of the edit box made to contain it.
        2. Windows XP SP3.

        • No problem on Windows 7.
          Seems to be a XP problem. 🙁

          • I’ve edited my comment. It looks like a problem with subfolders, though I’m not sure.

          • beBoss

            What is XP? Windows XP (2001)? Sorry but windows XP is dead, so please don’t ask question related to XP. Nobody is asking about Windows 95/98, right? It’s 2015, don’t use 13 years old and not supported windows!

          • Dave-H

            I’ll continue to ask XP related questions about Opera until Opera stop supporting it, and not before!

          • beBoss

            My condolences!

    • With a SD entry in a subfolder the End key looses focus.
      Try Ctrl End
      This works for me.

  • dakira

    So.. any news on Dragonfly? I’d love to ditch my old Opera 12 install someday. 😉

    • NoName

      I think it’s most likely dead. I still miss it 🙁

      • ahoj1234

        @dakira:disqus well, it’s not that easy to say “it’s dead” since they were looking for some developers for dragonfly when they came with first builds using blink/chromium…

        it’s a few years ago but it depends on how many resources they use for coding and it might not be finished yet (if it’s being done by 1 person only).
        But things may changed and developing new dragonfly might be stopped even before it goes serious…
        (just wanna point out that they were looking for developers for this).

    • Dragonfly will not be updated for new Operas. The debugger protocol in Chromium is different.
      I dont think that anybody will invest time.

  • Łukasz Janik

    Please delete the default search engines from the Opera

  • ricksper

    I made a few changes to the flags settings and now Opera 28 Developer will no longer start. I would like to recover my personalizations if possible. I have removed it, keeping my data, and re-installed it but no luck..Any help?

  • shane

    The folders added to Opera bookmarks cannot be synced using xmarks and carried over to other browsers such as chrome. They need to be added under ‘imported bookmarks’ or ‘bookmarks bar’.

    Is there any way to have the ‘unsorted bookmarks’ and other folders stored in a more standard way that is recognised by other browsers/xmarks?

    • No, there basically is nothing simple you can do. You could write to developers of xmarks though that they should start supporting opera bookmarks. The system we build makes a lot of thinks possible for us and still makes it possible for third parties to access all the data. They have to make slight adjustments though, they could even access the images we store together with the bookmarks if they like.

      • shane

        Would it at least be possible to have the ‘bookmarks bar’ the root of all bookmarks and have the ‘add bookmark’ add bookmarks there?

        The ‘multiple roots’ is the cause of all my issues with the current bookmarks.

        Xmarks could update their extension, but where would it import it to in other browsers? I just really wish there was a consistent, single, root folder across all browsers.

        • Everything is possible, but we need multiple roots. For various reasons it’s the cleanest thing to do.

        • ahoj1234

          it seems pretty easy to me (but I’m not a developer)… “unsorted bookmarks” is a specific folder and other folders are just folders. So it’s kinda the same as in other browsers… (folders, subfolders, sub-subfolders… 😀 ). So it’s only matter of xmark to support Opera with (search for all these “roots”).

  • ahoj1234

    bug to confirm:
    if the bookmark is in the trash, you can’t properly open the “heart menu” for changing folder/thumbnail. It’s blank.
    confirmation?
    w8.1 w64 with this build (with a few flags turned ON)

    EDIT:
    reported as DNA-32488

    • Confirmed for Windows 7×64.

      • L33t4opera

        “If you disable the trash it will work” – the source link.
        Empty the trash, turn off the flag, and relaunch the Opera 😉

        • Yes, disabling opera://flags/#bookmarks-trash-folder works

          • Sidney Moraes

            It did not work for me.

          • Vux777

            first you need to empty the trash folder, then disable it…
            worked in my case

          • Sidney Moraes

            It is working now 🙂

        • ahoj1234

          @gwendragon:disqus sure, that if it can’t be dished to trash it will not affect the bug related to the trash 😀 anyway, I am reporting it 🙂

          edit: can see the source now. I was reading part of the thread but not the steps to reproduce and “solution” since it was figured out a few hours after I finished the reading it.

  • Guest

    Ruarí Ødegaard
    сделайте 64-битный Opera для Windows я жду это с нетерпением

    do 64-bit Opera for Windows I’m waiting for it eagerly

  • firuz_u7

    Ruarí Ødegaard
    сделайте 64-битный Opera для Windows я жду это с нетерпением

    do 64-bit Opera for Windows I’m waiting for it eagerly.

  • IllusionMH

    Ok, I have 10+ folders in bookmarks(with nested). There are only 7 in list, how I should save bookmark where I want? I have to save it to some folder, and than move it few times.

    near to the New folder add option to see whole tree and save bookmark here.

    • Nekomajin43

      +1

    • Agreed. Or some kind of “Other locations…” at the very bottom of the list opening some kind of “folder chooser”.

    • Maciej Bałuta

      You can add it to “Unsorted bookmarks” and then sort it:)

      • Lacedaemon

        So you didn’t like the way it was before but you like doing it this way.

        I can dig it, it’s called masochism.

      • IllusionMH

        I’ve mentioned that and proposed better solution.

  • Guest
  • Lacedaemon

    Issue: I’m noticing white blink when clicking on tabs that were loaded in the background. Accessing the tabs with Ctrl+Tab has not that annoying effect.

    example: Visit a site with a dark background like: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/

    open 3 threads in the background (wait for them to load)
    click on each tab with the mouse
    -> white blink before showing content

    Now do the same again but switch tabs with Ctrl+Tab
    -> no blink

    Opera 12.17 has not this problem.

  • beBoss

    When the problems with the flash player will be fixed? Sometimes I watch tv online, and when put the player on the full screen the full screen contains video stream with the size before fullscreen , and the other part of the screen is black… When this problem will be fixed?

    Flash player: 16.0.0.257

    Windows 8.1 x64

    The issue is from 3 or 4 versions to now. With Chrome there’s no problems, so when the hell this problem will be fixed, again….?

    The site where I have problems: http://bg-gledai.tv/
    p.p. the player is jwplayer

  • ForsakenFx

    Is it possible to get a native solution for handling duplicate bookmarks?

  • Alex

    Any chance to get a rebuild of the debian package to actually work on wheezy? There is only libc6-2.13-38 available 🙁

    • No. Wheezy uses unfortunately old libc. Sometimes Debian is too slow on updates, other distries modernize faster.

      Only Debian 8 (Testing) works.

      • Alex

        That’s not a solution for now. It is not guarantied for debian testing that there will be any security updates… (and if there are security fixes they will be delayed for some days). Does opera relay need features of the new libc6? If you link against an older libc6 you still could run opera on systems with a newer libc6.

        Anyway it’s kind of confusing, that the wheezy opera-debian-repo (in fact even the squeeze one) contains packages that are not installable under wheezy.

        • I know about the serious security updating issue of Testing.
          I strongly agree that Opera should have a build linked to libc 2.13.
          Opera Dev say, that Opera 26 runs on current modern Linuxes. Thats not true.
          I dont really know why they cant compile against libc6 2.13?
          I dont like to beforced to change many PCs away from Debian. So I’m running Opera 26 and later only on a Testing VM, my Linux has Opera 12.

        • You are true.

          Opera has put deb packages even in older squeeze and wheezy subdirs.
          But these can not install it because of libc6!

          Opera should not distribute for those Debian distries it can not install with.

  • Feral

    please add a menu to sort bookmarks alphabetically on the bookmarks bar and unsorted bookmarks, menu deleting search engines

  • Ralf Brinkmann
    • Opera 27 is available in beta channel since December 11th. ^^
      I guess you intended to point out that there’s a new build…

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Yes. I’m very sorry.

        • No need to apologize. I corrected this for you 😉

  • Saw

    When the problem with the font rendering will be fixed?
    Fonts in Opera stil looks worse than FF or IE.

    • You mean on Firefox the fonts are slightly darker?

      • Saw

        Yep, exactly.

        • I hope you have Windows:
          Open opera://flags/#disable-direct-write
          Hit Button Disable
          Restart Opera

          The only problem after DirectWrite:
          Some fonts may not be rendered bold or incorrectly.

          • Saw

            ok, I will try.
            Thx.

  • Lacedaemon

    Twitch.tv @ source quality with visible comments on the right (or theater mode) : constantly >90% CPU usage with NPAPI….12-40% with Presto 12.17. You’ve asked us to upgrade from Presto. For what? Are we ever going to see an improvement there or is it futile?

    So much for being environmental-friendly… we consume tons of Watts for >90% CPU and fans with 3000rpm, drain our notebook’s battery life and all these for nothing…

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      18% here with PPAPI.

      • Lacedaemon

        Screenshot please. Are you sure you are not running it fullscreen?

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          Fullscreen? Yes. Give me a hint, what exactely shall I do.

          • Lacedaemon

            Go for example here: http://www.twitch.tv/elfi and choose source quality. Don’t click anything to go fullscreen. Just as it is, you can see chat to the right.
            Open Task Manager and go to Performance and watch CPU Usage while you ‘re watching. In Options make sure it stays always on top. I’m seeing CPU usage >89%.

            Running it on a E8500 Core 2 Duo @4.0 GHz, 1GB VRAM, 6GB DDR2, W7x64

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Ok:

            Normal view: [URL=http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3868/5zc7gkcl_jpg.htm][IMG]http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150115/temp/5zc7gkcl.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

            Theater view:
            [URL=http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3868/d52b5bb6_jpg.htm][IMG]http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150115/temp/d52b5bb6.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

            Intel Core i5-4670, 3.40 GHz, 16 GB Ram, W7x64

          • Lacedaemon

            you have not chosen source quality (=best quality)! You are playing that on medium. Also please show graph from “Leistung”.

            Here you are seeing mine: http://s21.postimg.org/hpavf1buf/Untitled.png

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            I thought theater mode is enough. Ok:

            Normal mode “high”:
            [URL=http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3868/ejetdbcv_jpg.htm][IMG]http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150115/temp/ejetdbcv.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

            Theater mode “high”:
            [URL=http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3868/mkvgv6c5_jpg.htm][IMG]http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150115/temp/mkvgv6c5.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

          • Lacedaemon

            Ralf, thx for your time firstly. Secondly please put it on source quality, not on high. It’s right above high. Wait until I find a new link that one is offline now.

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Offline.

          • Lacedaemon
          • Marcin Mitek

            OK, I just checked and didn’t have more than 30% when I was streaming source quality from here – http://www.twitch.tv/mercenarythorrn. I have a 3 year old CPU here, and rather lousy GPU for boring office-grade PCs here, and a dozen of apps running, Including Opera stable with ~30 tabs, beta with 3 tabs, Chrome Canary with couple tabs, IRC client, Spotify, Sublime, two Console, some Notes and Skype. What’s the purpose of this test? 🙂

          • Lacedaemon

            This stream of yours has a cap of 30 fps. Try it with my link pls. It’s on 60fps and try Source quality. http://www.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en

            Screenshot showing 91%
            http://s17.postimg.org/4idhi1glr/Untitled2.png

          • Marcin Mitek

            There you go, http://i.imgur.com/JjeiUk1.jpg, so it rised above 30% but never more than 40%.

          • Lacedaemon

            ~40% on a i7-2600 quad core which is pretty beast.

            Have you tested it on a E8500 Core 2 Duo? With the same processor Opera Presto needs 12-40% max.

            Try running it with your machine using 2 cores only, it should rise to 80%

            Screenshot of Opera Presto 12-40% max
            http://s21.postimg.org/ri3v1xl6f/Untitled3.png

          • Marcin Mitek

            Nope, I haven’t tested this particular case. We have similar testing machines, but I would expect them to perform worse than what I have currently on my desk (It’s obvious, right). I just want to say that there is no going back from PPAPI, number of bugs we notice with NPAPI is rising every day, they are kind of issues you would like to avoid when interacting with Flash content online, sticking to it would only make things worse, and we are not able to fix the issues with it by ourselves only.

          • Lacedaemon

            Problem is that either with NPAPI or with PPAPI, (My 1st screenshot is with NPAPI, my 2nd sceenshot is with PPAPI) it needs the same 90% CPU usage. (PPAPI some more)

            Here is the screenshot of playing it with Opera Presto on the same machine: 12-40% max as you can see: http://s21.postimg.org/ri3v1xl6f/Untitled3.png

            So it doesn’t have to do with NPAPI or PPAPI, it has to do with your engine.

            It just can’t be that an older engine performs so superior, what’s the point for me to use the new Opera when it performs so badly compared to my old one? So please take a look at your engine.

          • In case you missed it: The whole point of switching to Chromium was *not* having to maintain an engine of their own. They do contribute patches, but that sounds like a whole lot of work which will probably produce a whole lot of refactored code and little output.

          • Lacedaemon

            I thought they equally contribute to the code (Blink) so now it is their engine as much as it is for others? They didn’t just license the engine. And even better, they can solve those issues not alone (as it was before), but with the Google team together. More manpower, faster solving times. More important is IF they want to do so.

            Also, I’m using the Opera browser and I compare it to my old Opera version which (sadly) performs 3.5x better so isn’t this the place for me to report performance problems? Or should I report it to the Google Chrome team? I report it here and it’s Opera’s job then to contact partner Google and find a solution for their common problem. Mind also that the two browsers behave differently in terms of performance despite having theoretically the same engine, for example hardware acceleration.

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            [URL=http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3868/ritmxcjz_jpg.htm][IMG]http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150115/temp/ritmxcjz.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

            [URL=http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3868/nh377l8j_jpg.htm][IMG]http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150115/temp/nh377l8j.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

  • Simone Previti

    thanks for fixing that damn find crash 😀 Now i have a new problem though 🙁 Every time i try to print a page the browser crashes while loading the preview, it shows a message saying that the page crashed and it might be due to an incompatible plugin or something else. I have no newly installed plugins.. hints?

    • Just wait a few hours. It’s fixed already 😉

      • Simone Previti

        wow, that’s fast.. thanks!

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        How can I set my new-dev-versions-page to auto-reload every 5 seconds and giving alarm, when there is a new build?

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        The “few hours” are over now!

        • Add a few more then… ^^
          An issue with synchronization turned up that needed to be investigated first. Probably tomorrow, but no promises 😉

  • DataZByteS

    Still waiting for Bing as a default search provider. Until than I’m using hackaround.
    Or an option to add custom search provider, like any other normal browser on the market.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Create your own search engine and shortcut. Open your search page and right click in the search box.

  • L33t4opera

    New build of the Opera developer 28.0.1745.0, the change log 😉
    Some of the interesting changes/fixes:
    – DNA-27484 Improve drag and drop of bookmarks, especially to the bookmarks bar
    – DNA-31490 [Win] Sound notification icon on tab
    – DNA-32225 Implement a different view for empty trash folders in the bookmark manager
    – DNA-32232 Cant edit address in Autofill’s addresses after update to 28 DEV ☣
    – DNA-32361 Heart menu doesn’t work with opera:flags#experimental-addressbar ☣
    – DNA-32364 Dragging bookmarks to bookmarks bar requires horizontal movement
    – DNA-32377 Drag selection broken in bookmark manager
    – DNA-32442 Add option to undo bookmarking
    – DNA-32448 [Engine] Add extensions support to the new bookmark based speed dial.

  • huynhminhdang

    Search should be tab-based.

    I use search function to quickly jump around the long source code on Github. When I switch to another tab, the search bar still keeps the keywords in the previous tab. In effect, the second tab will automatically search the previous tab’s keywords and jump to the first result, not the place I’m working on.