Opera Developer 22.0.1460.0, now easier to update than ever

There comes the first Opera 22 update that will benefit from the new silent update process on windows. You should be upgraded to it automatically, without even a UAC prompt.

In addition, to make the autoupdating even smoother, the autoupdate packages will now be sent to you in the form of a patch instead of a full package, whenever possible. This will hopefully help those of you who pay per Mb downloaded or those who have a strict monthly download quota,

In addition to this, this build also contain a few bug fixes and crash fixes. See the changelog for the full list.

For those of you who are curious or need more information in order to produce a better bug report, here are some more technical details:

The silent autoupdate feature is implemented using a scheduled task. Those of you familiar with the Windows Task Scheduler should be able to use it to retrieve information about the task. The scheduled task is supposed to run on system startup and every day initially, but we can adjust it run every few days instead if we need to reduce the load on our servers. When Opera is running, it will keep track of whether the scheduled task is running normally and will attempt to run it manually when needed. If all else fails (which should really not happen), Opera will fall back to running autoupdate itself and in such a case, UAC prompts might appear anyway.

One important exception to silent autoupdate happens if you have installed Opera from a standard user account and elected to install for the “Current User” to a folder requiring administrative privileges. The installer will allow you to proceed as usual, but it will not create a scheduled task. For installations made in this fashion, autoupdate will keep working as it used to instead and UAC prompts might appear. This is obviously because creating a scheduled task allowing silent installation from the standard user account would be impossible.

The patch packages also have their own interesting story. They are generated using bsdiff between a pair of full package. Since we release quite a large number of packages, we can’t realistically create patch packages for every single pair of packages we release (the time required and the amount of storage needed would be prohibitive). Therefore, we only generate patch packages from those pairs which we consider likely to be used as an upgrade path. In other words, if we think many user will upgrade from version X to version Y, there will be a patch package for it. And if we think it is unlikely that people will upgrade from version X to version Z, people using version X will be served a full version Z package when autoupdating.

The process of applying the binary diffs from the patch package is quite simple: First, your opera installation will be copied entirely to a temporary folder, then bspatch will be used to apply the diffs. If applying the diffs fails (and this should really not happen), then a full package will be downloaded and used instead. Finally, when the patch has been applied, the installer is run from the patched opera folder, as if it had been run from a full package, and upgrades the actual opera installation.

That’s all the technical infos for today. Stay tuned for future info about opera in general and autoupdate/the windows installer in particular. As usual, any feedback or bug report is greatly appreciated.

Known issues

  • opera:extensions and opera:plugins are blank
  • opera://about/thanks is shown as plain text
  • [OS X] Crashes when clicking Reload in toolbars asking users to reload to recover from a crash

Downloads

  • NoName

    The opera://about/thanks site got quite ugly :)

    • nanana1

      Another Opera Developer Build 1460 update, thanks !

    • Helge Andre Gjølme

      We have already fixed it internally, will add it to the known issues.

    • al_ghul

      well it’s not ugly, it’s simple and don’t need full of developers to work on it;P. i like it:D

  • L33t4opera

    Hi Julien, thank for the update, and info, but why the issues “opera:extensions and opera:plugins are blank” are not fixed yet?

    • Marcin Mitek

      Oh, it is already, just not in this build.

      • L33t4opera

        Thx for fast reply Marcin, but why my Opera should be auto-updated to this version, if it has these issues not fixed yet ? Of course, as you should already know I’m huge Opera fan, so it’s just question, and not and claiming ;-)

        • NoName

          They still choose what to push out internally at Opera.
          What their developers develop is not pushed out to us as they type ;)

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Developer builds have become too stable recently. The devs are merely reminding us that there should be bugs. :)

        • Marcin Mitek

          It’s Developer channel, we are less strict when it comes to known bugs here. It regressed very recently and was fixed right after we started preparing builds for you.

          • L33t4opera

            Ok, thanks again for your reply, I really appreciate it ;-)
            When we can expect the build, that includes this fix?

          • SQL

            You have to understand that in software business they can’t give exact dates as things can change. (Quoting themselves :p) Or they just don’t know / want to tell

      • L33t4opera

        One more, quite important thing: I think, that you should not force a silent auto-updates, but instead of that, implement an option (easy accesible, somewhere within the UI), that will allow to enable/disable this feature, since most ordinary users can be really irritated, when their Opera, will be automatically updated, to the version such as this, in which extensions, and plugins pages are blank.

        • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

          EXACTLY :) (sorry for caps)

        • Marcin Mitek

          My response will be again – this is the Dev channel, and you should expect that things may not work here. This is less likely to happen on the Next channel. This is the cost of getting exactly the same build we are working on, on given day.

      • SoniC

        Guys… really… It was fixed 19 days ago… but still not on the DEV channel… It is really annoying… and IMHO totally misses the point to have 3 separate channels if there are SO BIG delays between — in my opinion — crucial fixes…

  • Emil Huber

    I hope that the next build will include more features…

    • Cryio

      The Next stream is usually feature complete, but with a few bugs remaining. Expect features only in Dev.

      • RX-3200

        get “ten differences” between “next” & “Next” …
        please read more carefully next time

        • Cryio

          Oh. Yes. Sorry for that ^_^.

    • Nicolas Lopes

      features are everything else it will be chrome

  • Leonardo Gomes

    New flags:

    Heart menu
    Menu to add or remove active page to or from Speed Dial, Stash or bookmark bar.

    Bleeding Edge Renderer Paths
    Use bleeding-edge code to make Opera draw content faster. The changes behind this path are very likely to break lots of content.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      HiDPI flag was removed.

      • http://golubev.by/ Andrew G.

        Why?

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Don’t know, maybe because they are rebuilding the hidpi support.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I’ve turned on the Heart menu, but there’s no option to add to bookmark bar on the main or context menu. Am I looking for it in a wrong place?

      • Leonardo Gomes

        I don’t think so. I also wasn’t able to notice what that flag changes.
        Maybe it isn’t working yet?

      • Vux777

        in change log they only mentioning mac platform, even tho is stated for mac and win in flags
        I also didn’t see any menu/popup on heart… or whatever

        • Marcin Mitek

          Not ready for Win yet.

  • SQL

    Looks great, wasn’t expecting a new version to Dev arrive so fast :)

  • kabforks

    Nice

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Upgraded successfully and without a problem. The scheduled task definitions are under UAC, which is good. It must have been quite a lot of efforts that you spent on the update delivery mechanism. I hope it won’t give you much headache hunting bugs, and you can move on to polishing the UI, settings, and features like customisable keyboard shortcuts and mouse gestures, like in Maxthon.

  • Vux777

    is there any way to access ext. options for those extensions that don’t have toolbar icon?

    • Marcin Mitek

      Through the extensions manager?

      • Vux777

        but it’s blank ๏̯͡๏

        • Marcin Mitek

          Damn, stupid me. Right, well, might be a problem in this build. Sorry :/

          • Vux777

            it’s ok , young padawan :P

          • L33t4opera

            Don’t be so hard on yourself, Marcin ;-)

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          Read the know issues please.

          • Vux777

            read the whole thread pls :P

    • Vux777

      for anyone that need’s it

      SimpleExtManager extension

      https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/simpleextmanager/?display=en

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Oh, great! It works. That’s the only way for me to post her with Opera now, because otherwise I could not switch “rel Link Pager” off to be able to trick Disqus.

  • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

    Version:22.0.1457.0 – An error occurred while checking for updates

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Christoph, for Windows try this patch ;-)

      • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        Thanks, but I already downloaded NetInstaller of course to circumvent this issue. I just wanted to make aware of it ;)

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Version: 22.0.1460.0 – An error occurred while checking for updates
      Update stream: Developer
      System: Windows 8.1 64-bit (WoW64)

  • Leonardo Gomes

    http://html5test.com/ is not loading here.

    • NoName

      It’s a bug on the site. Their javascript file is outputting PHP errors.

    • al_ghul

      at me it’s working (win7 pro, newest Opera dev 22)

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Hmm, i’ve tried now and it worked here too.

  • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

    Thanks. Just tried install patch.exe but it gaves me Non 7.zip error…

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Looks like the file is corrupted or not downloaded completely.

      • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

        Yea , maybe. Anyway I installed with full package as USB setup but I face again a problem which continiously crashed Opera.

  • Женя Т…

    Nothing happened with synchronization. Again, and again, and again.

    • oic

      Its funny, synchronization was introduced as a feature back around v19 or earlier, and its now version 22 and that “feature” still doesn’t work

      • Leonardo Gomes

        It works but needs improvements.

        • Ste

          It needs maaaany improvements. And it should be default option for any user, not only in opera:flags.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            It’s not enabled by default because it’s not considered stable enough. And also because it needs improvements.

    • dizdizzie

      It’s only reason why I didn’t upgrade Opera on all of my computers yet.

      • bwat47

        same here, using multiple devices without browser sync is archaic to say the least.

    • Jonathan Aanesen

      You can test out the flag if you can’t wait. It’s there and working for me.

      • NoName

        It logs me out each time I restart the browser.
        I understand that it’s under development, and that’s fine. But it’s not in an usable state at the moment.

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          I have the same meaning, but there’s nothing else we can do that wait for it to get better :)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    The lightblue highlight on links clicked by the right mouse button is OK, but it also affects images, and that looks weird. Especially, when you’re saving someone’s photo, the face turns blue-ish for a moment… :-/

  • inDigazzZ

    you should post new flags in changelog

    • Marcin Mitek

      We are considering something like this.

      • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

        Tho if there is a flag that has a know hang put it in ()

  • NoName

    I get this error when opening an URL from another application:
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1098960/o/externalURL.PNG

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Is there the profile-targeting option --user-data-dir in the launcher command line in the http(s) protocol definition reg key?

      • NoName

        I just searched my reg. database for “–user-data-dir”.

        No hits.

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Wow… now I’m getting that too. Opening an URL from another application works only once, when Opera is not running. When it is running, the error will appear and the URL won’t open. The profile location is default.

          • Vux777

            same thing happened when I clicked opera shortcut in quicklaunch, and opera was already running…

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Same thing happens when you right-click a file on your PC and select “open with Opera Developer”
      Win 8.1 (Single user -> I’m the admin)

      • Carson Coyote

        Also happens if I use “Open With>Opera Developer” from the right-click context menu in Opera 12.16, but only if I already have Opera Developer running.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I think I found a possible reason: The same error is shown if you try launching another instance of Opera, using Shift+Click on its app button or launcher.exe from cmd prompt. There’s an error event, SHARING VIOLATION, for write into %AppData%Opera SoftwareOpera Developerlockfile.

    • IllusionMH

      Same here.
      Win7 x64 SP1

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Thank you, that’s just what I wanted to write. Confirmed for Opera USB installation under W7x64.

    • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

      This has been happening even in the previous version for me.

      Needs to be fixed ASAP. :/

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        Zkratka ASAP se ti hodně líbí, což? :P :)
        Všiml jsem si že jsi ji nepoužil poprvé. Alespoň je tu nějakej Čech. Hurá. :D

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      It’s known and tracked as DNA-18784 internally.
      You might wanna watch for this issue in changelogs ;)

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      Same here. This is making me crazy. Especially now that M2 is no more, and I use Outlook for email…

    • http://www.bandiit.eu/ bandIIt

      +1

  • x a

    I forced the updater task to run (using standard scheduler techniques – using WinXP/pro/32bit). Schduler (svchost.exe) then ran launcher.exe --scheduledautoupdate, which in return forked "C:ProgrammeOperaNext22.0.1457.0_0opera_autoupdate.exe" --host --pipeid=oauc_task_pipe/C:/Programme/OperaNext --version=22.0.1457.0 --lang=en --producttype=Developer --requesttype=automatic --downloaddir="C:WINDOWSTEMP" --operadir="C:ProgrammeOperaNext22.0.1457.0_0" --installdir="C:ProgrammeOperaNext" --profile="C:WINDOWSTEMP" --nometrics --scheduledtask. That process downloaded the patch successfully into the system wide temp folder (or rather a sub folder thereof).

    Finally the patch SFX got started.

    All this while Opera was running. Now nothing more happened – probably the updater waits for Opera to close? Or for what else? A log-off event?

    Shutting down Opera (successfully) didn’t convince the autoupdater to commence. Probably after an hour (as the scheduler task is defined to cancel after 1h) the parent processes of opera_autoupdate (itself parenting the patch-sfx) got terminated. Nothing happened from there on, even during or after re-starting the Opera installation (which still was build 1457).

    I killed the two processes and re-force-ran the scheduler task (Opera not running this time around). Now it downloaded the complete autoupdate-installation file, probably due to info in the installation_status log. That one succeeded in performing the update.

    • Max Nrws

      I can’t install on my WInXP (on PIII 1GHz and Amd Sempron), You installed on WinXP, may I ask what proccesor do you have?
      Recently updated Opera Stable 20.0.1387.91, but can’t install new Developer and Next, my only hope is so Opera Team enabled some option during compilation for SSE2, or something like that, or I have bugged system :(

      • x a

        I run an AMD Athlon64 X2 Dual Core 3800+…

        • Max Nrws

          Thanks for answer.

      • Saskatchewan

        I can confirm that another user has the same problem and he’s using AMD Athlon XP 2200+ which doesn’t support SSE2.

  • Sause

    Show two time units in downloads starting from hours:
    2 seconds left
    45 minutes left
    1 hour and 30 minutes left
    3 days and 19 hours left

  • Martin

    Having some text rendering issues on windows 7, changing tabs or selecting the text will fix it.

    I like the technical explanations, please keep it up! :)

    Thanks

    btw abp and ghostery are off.

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      You didn’t incidentally enable that flag where it says that a lot of text will end up garbled, did you?

      • NoName

        It happens for me too, even if it’s enabled or not.

    • Emil Huber

      Same here. Using Win8.1 32bit

    • Chas4

      I have seen that here on OS X 10.9.2 also, not so far with this build but with the last Next or Dev build I did see it, it took a reload or 2 to get it right

    • Marcin Mitek

      Any other extensions or flags changed? I’ve seen it on different sites, but not on our blog.

      • Martin

        Hard to turn off extensions in this build ;) , I deleted them from the extension folder and turned flags back to default.
        Problem still exists.
        Seems to occur more frequently when using ctrl-F5.
        I have hardware acceleration turned off.

        • Vux777

          this extension comes in handy for this build

        • Marcin Mitek

          Damn, I keep forgetting about that bug. Anyway, we are tracking at least two issues like that. Seems to be happening on different sites, mostly after scrolling/hovering.

          • Martin

            I found it on thenextweb.com as well.
            Seems to render as the site is not fully loaded yet and does not update when it does?
            Not only affecting text, but images too

  • Nekomajin42

    Thanks for the detailed info!

  • Inquisitor

    Text is broken when I open the Desktop Team Blog page. Reloading doesn’t solve the problem. However, when i open a second tab, and return to the Blog page, it looks fine.

  • Max Nrws

    Please update http://get.geo.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera-developer/info/md5sum.txt
    I have errors, but maybe my download is corrupt.

  • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

    Will we able to edit/import/export cookies like in Opera 12 (I’m not sure about importing/exporting)? I know there is an extension already, but I don’t want to install 20 extensions to get some feature back from O12.

  • ayespy

    serious text tearing on some pages and in some comment boxes (but not all) on a given page. Bad enough that I can’t test it. (Win 8,1 X64)

  • taneli

    This version didn’t auto-update, so haven’t tried on it yet… but atleast on 22.0.1457.0 the problem still remains, that i can’t bring Opera to front if other programs are open… this same thing has been ruining my experience since the first Aura build.

  • Sidney Moraes

    Testing the transition animation to open a folder on speed dial, in Opera Next and Stable are smooth but in the Developer is not so smooth as well.

    • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

      +1, the animation is slower.

  • Nekomajin42

    Any chance on option to disable the autoupdate? It would be good to have an option for manual update before this version goes to next.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Press WinKey + Pause, go to advanced system settings, click on Environment variables, create a new one with the name: OPERA_AUTOUPDATE_DISABLED copy and paste from this comment so you make no mistake, assign any value to it, I did with a “c”.

      The three branches of Opera will stop looking for updates upon restart.

      • Nekomajin42

        Thanks guys, but it should be a built-in solution.

        • dizdizzie

          Absoloutely.

      • http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera-developer-21-0-1432-0/ Bhikkhu Pesala

        This is a better hack, but I prefer not to use it in case I do something wrong, and don’t know how to fix it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          This is not even a hack, anything goes wrong you undo it just as easy, not even a restart is needed.

          • Nicolas Lopes

            but dont you think that a user having to do that just to disable a forced undesired feature is a bad thing?

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            I’m more practical and welcome any solution, I don’t care if it is the official solution or a workaround, but I agree the general public should be offered this option.

            I work in 1 PC at work and 2 PCs at home and won’t download 3 times the same thing. So I applied this solution, can’t wait for Opera to do it for me.

            Still as I said, the option should be there.

          • Vux777

            why all that drama about silent update? (many comments so far)
            installation package is 27-33 megs, and silent update patch is 7 MB
            this browser is heavily under development, and ofc they gonna force update
            plus, if someone really doesn’t want it, they can block opera_autoupdate.exe with Firewall (or even better, not allow it in the first place)…among other solutions

            at least they made “normal” file that user can block, delete, rename… with google silent update, it’s much bigger hassle

    • P30Carl

      Rename “opera_autoupdate.exe” in Opera folder to temporarily disable updates.

      • http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera-developer-21-0-1432-0/ Bhikkhu Pesala

        This solution is fine for experienced users, but you also need to mention that the autoupdater is not in the Opera folder, but in the version folder. 22.0.1460.0 or whatever

        I renamed mine to do_not_update_opera.exe in for each of the three streams:

        OK until I do decided to update, then I will have to remember this hack to prevent the new version autoupdating.

      • Nicolas Lopes

        do you see this as a good thing? i mean no matter who i look its just bad

  • serendipity1002

    Hope you guys will look into this bug. the sliding boxes of “more games” leave behind corresponding white squares. yes, it’s silly farmville 2…

    • Jonathan Aanesen

      Submit a bug report with detailed reproducible steps and we should be able to locate the bug if there is one, and fix it :)

      • serendipity1002

        I guess it would be ok if I submit a bug report here…
        Well, about the problem with the game: you open the game full load, wait a while for the abcd game icons displayed in “Other games” bar on the right side to automatically switch to a new set (called fghi) then a four white squares appeared just like in the picture. Then when that fghi switches/scrolls to new set (called jklm) another block of 4 white squares appears just like in the picture

      • serendipity1002

        and I notice something similar to this bug when you play a Youtube playlist: You would see black boxes appear on the video when scrolling down the playlist.
        I have already updated to Flash player 13 and the bug persists

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          This doesn’t happen in other browsers for you? what exactly versions are you using? It sort of looks like a bug we had 2 weeks ago, but it got fixed so I don’t know why you still got something look-a-like of it.

          • serendipity1002

            I’m using Opera Developer 22.0.1460.0 and Opera Next 21.0.1432.39 Yes this bug only affects Opera (a wild guess: thanks to Aura), Other browsers like Chrome (Stable), Firefox Aurora, Internet Explorer was fine (all updated to the latest builds)

  • inDigazzZ
  • taneli

    Sometimes, on youtube, i cannot write in the address bar, it just keeps the player “active”, so, when starting to type on the address bar, it skips around the video, starts playing, pausing, etc. nonsense, and apparently no way to get the focus out of the video element. I can’t seem to find any steps to reproduce this, but it has happened several times now since version 19.

  • taneli

    And even more youtube whining (again), when clicking on the video player, so that it’s active, and you close the tab, you can’t scroll on the new active tab. Annoying if you just open videos in new tab from a list, close it, can’t scroll.

  • taneli

    This Disqus thing hasn’t showed “new comments below” anymore for a while, it’s a pain to read throught everything all the time scanning for new comments.

    • al_ghul

      yeah, it should be efficient mechanism, and it shows to be absolutely not, especially when there is hundreds of comments…

      • Vux777

        the best way to keep tracking disqus it with email notifications

        you subscribe to it either with subscribe button on bottom of every disqus article or commenting in it and enabling notifications in settings

        • al_ghul

          yeah, I use it also, but the poor efficiency of disqus in displaying actual and newest comments is little annoying…

          • Chas4

            It defaults to best comments, but where it says best you can change that to sort by newest

          • al_ghul

            well in mine default is sort by newest;P.

          • Chas4

            For me it is not sticking for some reason

          • Vux777

            same here…always sorted by Best…

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      That you report to Disqus, not to Opera. Disqus is having a lot of issues now, sometimes the dash doesn’t load the comments but you go to the page and it loads, and even then the dash never gets to load.

  • _artem_

    previous build – 1457 – there is now no way to force the update check by opening about page? it keeps telling me opera is up to date
    upd1: just restarted opera and it shows now 1460 – the previous behaviour with – restart in order to update was better (more intuitive), now you have no idea if opera updated or not until you restart it :(
    upd2: I still get these Sync with Opera tab :( I always sign in with google account, it’s also signed in, shows in opera menu and in settings, but then some time later it asks me again for signing in for sync

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve updated to this build by going to about opera.

      • _artem_

        opened it several times (about 10), it kept telling: 22.0.1457.0 – Checking for updates… -> Opera is up to date – closed opera, launched it again (took less than a second), opened about page in order to force it but it told me “22.0.1460.0 – Opera is up to date”

  • cgebhard

    Is there a way to trigger the “first run import” manually? Because I can’t figure out how to set the “opera://flags/#first-run-import” flag after a clean install but before the first run…
    Is there a command line option?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Try “–with-feature:first-run-import” without the quotes but i don’t think that the feature is fully working.

  • Steve Hayes

    This is still a problem, I cannot use my credit union with Opera Developer until this is fixed, thank you kindly.

    http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera-developer-22/#comment-1315320884

    • senna_4ever

      a person replied you there, check it

      • Steve Hayes

        yes I’m using stable Opera until this is fixed.

  • moto0000

    Why when i clear download history, downloads folder jump ?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Which download folder?

      • moto0000

        in Dock

        • Marcin Mitek

          If you are talking about Mac OS X then yes, but it’s already fixed today. Expect the fix for it in next Developer build.

      • moto0000

        In dock

  • http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera-developer-21-0-1432-0/ Bhikkhu Pesala

    1. To force updates on the mindless general public, you enabled automatic auto-updates and prevented intelligent users — who rightly prefer to disable it — from stopping them without using a hack.
    2. Due to this, you had to spend a whole load of time developing a binary patching system to save wasting bandwidth.

    Instead of doing 1 and 2, you should have left it as it was, where the user can decide when and whether to update — advising but not forcing them to update.

    Binary patching might still have been useful, but it would no longer have been such a high priority, and you could have used that development time to implement the features people have been asking for since Opera 15 like tab-stacking, vertical tabs, or customised shortcuts and menus.

    The history of updates shows that things do often break and then back-tracking to a previous version is difficult as a fresh install will still auto-update. Users would be wise to disable updates in their primary browser, and test updates in another installation before making them live.

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      I don’t agree on this. I get periodic calls from my mother that “Opera wants to update again. It’s blinking. What shall I do?”
      The UAC not blocking it anymore and Opera updating silently is perfect for non-tech-enthusiasts.

      I’d prefer a tick mark in opera:about (below version number) or opera:settings though to disable it for those who want to.

      • Tim Stubbs

        I’m sorry but avoiding UAC is plain wrong – it’s there for a reason and although my mom calls me on the same issue that’s absolutely fine with me. One of the things I hated about Chrome was it installing into the user profile rather than program files. I prefer a level of security with some minor hassle otherwise I might as well be back to the free-for-all than XP was. PLEASE stay compliant with the MS security model – it may not be perfect but something is better than nothing at all.

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          Well, I agree for installs, but for updates?

          • gekitsu

            especially for updates, imho.

            if the user installed your software and thereby automatically gives you a carte blanche for silent changes, you are setting your user up for an injection of malicious software once your in-house security gets breached. reality has shown that if someone sets his mind on it, it WILL eventually get breached. and even if this was not as realistic a danger as it is, an open door to your users’ systems is still irresponsible behaviour.

            does the problem magically go away through UAC? no, of course not. there is no software solution to a problem between keyboard and chair. a non-silent, UAC-triggering, and – in a perfect world – non-automatic update at least properly indicates the magnitude of change at hand and allows the chance to look up the update beforehand. there is at least the chance to find out about negative consequences and say no.

            the responsible solution to get non-tech-savvy users to use up to date software is not written in code, but in education.

          • Nicolas Lopes

            when i think opera cant get worse

        • Dmitry Kirin

          The scheduled update task is protected by UAC: to do anything with it, one has got to go through UAC. Opera’s solution is not against the recommended approach.

      • cgebhard

        I totally agree on this when it comes to the stable channel, since -being
        stable- it’s not likely to break anything there and improves usability
        for non-tech-enthusiasts.
        But on Next and esp. Developer-Channel I
        guess many would appreciate to check before the update if anything they
        use will be broken (e.g. hi-dpi etc.)

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          Didn’t give much thought to Dev channel b4. I totally second this opinion :)

        • Dmitry Kirin

          I’d say Dev and Next are even more obvious candidates for such automatic and imminent delivery of updates. They are for testing, it’s just us (or me, okay) using them in daily work. In a way, it’s us that choose difficulties, and we’re not talking about propagating just any change to any channel—there’s always Opera QA choosing what’s safe for Stable.

    • Tomáš Pavlík

      Totally agree.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I don’t agree on the (un)importance of a decent update mechanism. This is a new software, it’s under construction, and it’s known from the beginning that there will be frequent updates even in the Stable channel. Imagine that there’s a convenient way to disable automatic updates. Many people will do that, resulting in Opera having a long tail of previous versions (and bugs) across its userbase. So what we’ve received is:
      + people are kept on the last version;
      + bandwidth is saved.
      + UAC is not overused, so people are not getting used to clicking ‘yes’ too often, and the UAC prompt will remain something extraordinary, worth actual reading what’s going on.
      Let’s just hope this mechanism won’t be an even bigger source of bugs…

      As for the technical aspect of inventing a whole new bicycle data transfer mechanism, it might have been not the first priority, but still very cool. It’s similar to SkyDrive vs DropBox: the latter has a much more efficient bandwidth-saving approach for data sync, involving a partial file transfer.

    • Scribe_uk

      +1

    • kapsi

      “Instead of doing 1 and 2, you should have left it as it was, where the user can decide when and whether to update — advising but not forcing them to update.” – Nah, Chrome’s “evergreen” model is great and I’m glad Opera copied it. If only IE did that as well…

    • Tomáš Pavlík

      “To force updates on the mindless general public, you enabled automatic auto-updates and prevented intelligent users — who rightly prefer to disable it — from stopping them without using a hack.”

      This is just perfectly written. ;)

      • Sohrabi

        “mindless general public” :D

    • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

      you enabled automatic auto-updates and prevented intelligent users — who rightly prefer to disable it — from stopping them without using a hack

      I won’t disable it (and no it’s not a hack). I hope this is not a personal attack…? ;)

      • http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera-developer-21-0-1432-0/ Bhikkhu Pesala

        I was referring to intelligent users — not to you.

        Intelligent users can also decide not to disable autoupdate if that’s what they want to use.

        Ordinary users, who do not know how to hack software by renaming executable files, editing configuration files, or editing the Windows registry, need a simple way to disable Autoupdates in the GUI, which in Opera 20 would be Settings, Privacy and Security.

        It’s really that simple, as it is in Opera 12 or earlier. Autoupdates are enabled by default, so that naive users will be updated automatically while intelligent users can easily configure the browser to notify them or not check at all.

        • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

          Hahahaha that was only a joke. :}

        • Nicolas Lopes

          agreed, why did they screwed up opera?

        • ricksper

          “so that naive users will be updated automatically while intelligent users”

          Perhaps you might want to rephrase that. Inexperienced vs experienced maybe. Naive people might very well be intelligent and vise versa.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      I agree there should be options, I have to install on 3 PCs, rather download once and install 3, than download 3 times the same thing.

      I created a global variable, but that’s not the point.

  • DaZung

    Is it currently possible to backup the saved passwords to use after an OS reinstall? Perhaps if using the same username/password for the account?

    I learned (the hard way…) they were encoded to the user account and not transferable, but seeing that the password manager now asks for the windows account password filled my heart with hope…

  • vinczej

    I need and expect any option to disable silent autoupdate in the Preferences. Till I won’t change to new build. :(

  • Tomáš Pavlík

    Oh – my – god. Another “more simplified” aspect? What next? Brain control? Sorry, but work on this was totally useless for me. Why you invendted netinstaller in the first place, or, if you prefer updating in a form of a patch, why you just simply haven’t added to your servers an option to download only patch files, not the whole Opera? Or just make this “silent-update” optional, i’d really like to know what is happening on my PC. I really can’t see any reason why to loose the time inventing this… “thing”. Although i’ll be more than happy to hear the reasons why you just can’t make this nonsense (for me and for other powerusers) optional. Or just we have to figure it ourselves? And hopefully you haven’t forbid Opera for Linux; it really looks like that and i’m slowly getting to use to Chromium. Thanks a lot. :(

    • al_ghul

      even last update feature was better, when going to opera info page and waitin’ update to download, and choose to update or not. the point is TO CONTROL some basic and CRUCIAL features of browser. only this!

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        I appreciate Opera’s work, though. I just think they heading the wrong direction. And im not sure if this blog is for Opera to hear us, or just because they want to know what works in their new and new versions. Probably the second thing. Which is disappointing.

        At least Linux doesn’t have any User Account Control (UAC) nonsense. At least in Linux i shouldn’t be Forced to use this. If there will be Opera for it.

        • kapsi

          “At least Linux doesn’t have any User Account Control (UAC) nonsense.” – funny how I need to enter my password all the time in Ubuntu…

          • Tomáš Pavlík

            If that annoys you, why won’t you “turn in off”? Linux will still know that it’s YOU who sit in front of your PC and at the same time keep the same security for everything. Instead of “DOS”.

          • kapsi
          • Guest

            And?

          • kapsi

            And UAC is the same thing as in stupid Linux.

          • Tomáš Pavlík

            UAC elevates the currently logged in user by giving it a system privilege needed to do something marked as needing administrator rights. UAC does not ask for a password. The point of UAC is to ensure that the actual physical user wants an action to happen, not an automated process. AFAIK you can’t change what things in Windows produce a UAC prompt and what things do not.

            Sudo elevates the currently logged in user by changing the current user to root, or another user, and executes a command as that user. The list of commands and who can do what is defined in /etc/sudoers. Sudo does ask for a password, your password, but caches it for a time so you don’t have to re-enter it. The point of sudo is allow a limited number of normal users to execute some commands that need to run as root, or other users.

            Some things in Windows, such as installing devices, will ask for an administrator password if they do not have proper privileges to do something. This is somewhat like sudo, but unless you customize your rights assignments, users, and groups under Windows, any administrator can authorize the action.

            Get some info before you actually write something.
            Now i’m done with this pointless, mindless conversation.

          • Tomáš Pavlík

            Simple enough.

  • Petar Pavlov

    Its getting worse and worse. Opera restarts 3 times on launch and dies. I posted that on the last update not sure is someone is considering the bug and looking to fix it but this is a serious issue.

    • Petar Pavlov
      • beBoss

        Did you try on clean install?

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        Developer stream. Which means least stable. Opera STABLE works for you?

        • Petar Pavlov

          yes it does

          Next 21.0.1432.31 works fine
          I hope to be able to help make 22 better

    • Petar Pavlov
    • Leonardo Gomes

      Have you tried deleting history* files?

      • Petar Pavlov

        I tried clean reinstall.
        I am usually starting from speed dial

    • Wraith

      Same thing here on a clean install but this begin to happen right after enable sync.

  • Кostadin

    Bleeding Edge Renderer is REALLY brutal – at least for me – HUGE difference

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It’s good but it really mess things up.

  • taneli

    Mouse wheel sideways clicking isn’t working here, atleast for me, i can’t scroll the site sideways with mouse anymore (tilting mouse wheen left and right), instead, it will just scroll page up & down with sideclicks.

  • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

    Windows 8.1, can’t see some symbols at http://fsymbols.com/emoji/

    In IE and Firefox they are displaying correctly, so I’d say it’s Opera’s issue. And a pretty big one, if it can’t properly render symbols. Fix it ASAP, please. :/

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Chrome displays the exact same symbols and I bet it’s system-dependent which ones that is.
      Anyway, it’s a Chromium-issue not an Opera-issue then after all.

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        Chromium 33.0.1750.152 works like charm.
        ArchLinux, i686.

      • Rinne Tensei

        working fine on mine.. Having problem here..

        http://www.symbols-n-emoticons.com/p/facebook-emoticons-list.html

        It is a chromium issue.. IE11, FF28 is fine

        • al_ghul

          in mine also doesn’t work your one, but previous works! win7 pro. in ff28 surprisingly your link works, but previous has some bugs

    • Guest

      working fine on mine.. but not working here..

      http://www.symbols-n-emoticons.com/p/facebook-emoticons-list.html

    • Guest

      i’m only trying paste one:D

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I see all symbols, but when I copy them into Word, some turn to generic squares… (Win7)

  • Sergey Shpagin

    Вы, блять, вообще будете возвращать Вашей новой Opera функционал старой??? Или будете и дальше дрочить движок Chromium???

    • Kurt Zon

      oh dear!!!!!!!

  • Akbalder

    It’s good to have fix the numpad 1 and numpad 2 shortcuts but the numpad “.” shortcut to start a search is still missing.

    • L33t4opera

      the numpad “.” shortcut to start a search

      Hi Akbalder,it’s currently possible, just follow the steps:
      1. Close the Opera, go to the Opera profile directory
      (you can find the path in O-Menu->About Opera->Paths->Profile),
      2. Open the “Preferences” file in your text editor, and assign the “Period” key as follows:{
      "Keybindings": {
      "Basic": {
      "Find": [ "Ctrl+F", "Period" ]
      },
      "Settings": {
      "AdvancedEnabled": false
      }
      },

      3. Save the changes, close the file, and reopen the Opera.
      The value of the “AdvancedEnabled” can be “false”, or “true”.

  • Hunk

    It will be awesome if you’ll add a little complexity to this simple feature, so users could disable it and manually decide when check for updates. Thank you!

  • Petar Pavlov
    • Leonardo Gomes

      When reporting a problem please include a description of it and the steps to reproduce.

  • http://nsportal.info/ Miroslav Starčević

    Seven versions, from 16 to 22, and you are still not able to come up with any sort (even alpha) of Linux version? Seriously? Maxthon started working on their browser this year, and they already have a fully working Linux version!

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      It’s being worked on. Hang tight.

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        Another 6/7 numbers? I’m not sure if i want to wait anymore. Checking Maxthon.

      • bgh251f2

        How many more years you think we should wait?

        • bwat47

          The browser is being developed largely from scratch, while I too am impatient when it comes to some important missing features of the new opera, I can understand that they can’t just magically come up with a totally re-written browser that has all these features + runs on every platform in a year. The chromium based opera hasn’t even been in development for very long yet, but every since the first release everyone’s been screaming like children in the comment threads.

          • bgh251f2

            The problem is that if you don’t do the development since the beginning thinking about multiplatform when gets to the point of making it work on a new platform it only gets harder.

            And it has also the situation that they used to support Linux and now they don’t, they dropped Linus users and gave us not a single relevant info about what is going on, only promises that seems emptier as the months and years start to pile on. People like me that used Opera as the main browser already stopped using or don’t use one of the several sites that don’t work on Opera 12. We feel like Opera abandoned us and is only tricking us so we don’t make a fuss about it.

          • bwat47

            “We feel like Opera abandoned us and is only tricking us so we don’t make a fuss about it.”

            That would be a completely non-sensical thing for them to do. If there’s no linux version planned, than they would just say so, because that would ‘get you off their back’ much quicker than continually promising a version that they have no plans on releasing. They said it is in the works, they just don’t have an ETA yet, its a sucky situation if you are an opera linux user, I agree, but I highly doubt they are promising a linux version if they have no intention of releasing one, that’s conspiracy theory territitory.

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          How many more times do you have to ask? I think I’ve given you a answer before.

          • bgh251f2

            You think that you said how many years will take? serious? Or maybe you said exactly what they already said that is: “it’s being working on”.

    • kapsi

      I tried that Mathoxn Linux version and it just crashed…

  • Javier Wilcox

    full sync, full sync, full sync…. -.-’

  • icetom

    Autoupdate bypassing UAC. Great, especially as we know that basically every company can get hacked. So they can then pass on silent updates to our machines with some kind of virus. Sounds great, thanks Opera, the not tech-savvy people will love it. This starts to sound like a malware (powered by Google) more than a browser.

    I got my rant, now for my suggestion: As others here have suggested, I would love an option to tick to disable auto-updates.

  • icetom

    Somehow my edit does not show up.

    I got my rant, now for my suggestion: As others here have suggested, I would love an option to tick to disable auto-updates. Your “target audience” consisting of not so tech-savvy people will not be upset because they wont even discover that option.

  • Tomáš Pavlík

    UAC cure:

    Start -> start -> gpedit.msc -> find this:
    Run all administrators in Admin Approval Mode. Set to “disabled”.
    Reboot.

    I wonder if this “silent-update” will work after this. Can anyone confirm?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      It should work, because the task is already configured to run its action under elevated rights.

      The solution itself is not a cure, it’s more like a poison. It disables all other UAC policies and functionality, so programs can be installed without an UAC prompt when run by an administrator. It means that you won’t see the prompt if you want to modify the scheduled task. Any malware you might happen to have launched will also run free, without being intercepted by UAC.

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        I found UAC to be extremely annoying. And careful user who use at least “good-for-something” antivirus + firewall should be fine. Probably used to this from Linux. Where i have absolute control without bloated and annoying crap. Sorry – no flame please. Just the state of mind and “tinkering” opinion. :)

        I wonder if Opera implement an option to disable silent-update. Hopefully yes.

        • Dmitry Kirin

          I thought the very idea of UAC came from Unix, as in, “don’t work as root,” and in Linux, you have to do something similar, like su

          As for the carefulness, I understand you very well. I’m exactly the same type of a careful user: for the most of my computer experience, I’ve lived with an antivirus that would only catch one virus in a year, in a file being copied, not launched, just because I never launched anything without thinking first. :) For careless users, though, UAC’s great.

          • Tomáš Pavlík

            Can’t agree more. :) Especially with your last sentence.
            I’m not quite sure if MS’ idea of UAC came originaly from Linux. If does, they just screwed it. Not only that UAC’s prompt blackens your whole screen, but plays that stupid sound too. :D Nevertheless; if you truly turn UAC off, you can probably expect some malware threat to your PC (if you’re just stupid and don’t use any security or use useless security). If you “turn off” superuser “always-ask-me” in Linux, Linux will still keep the security at the same level. Instead of UAC.

  • fake

    • x a

      Known issues
      • opera:extensions and opera:plugins are blank

  • http://www.bandiit.eu/ bandIIt

    Am I the only one whose Speed dial tumbnails are empty? (it’s not on the know bugs list)

    • al_ghul

      probably YES;). in my win7 pro, speed dial works fine.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      I had that issue one or two builds ago. Then, the thumbnails just got generated right after the update. Are you sure you’re using th latest build (22.0.1460.0)?

      • http://www.bandiit.eu/ bandIIt

        Very sure, as it updated itself almost. and version numbers are corresponding. Using win8.1×64 Maybe I should be more precise. Speed dial extension thumbnails are empty. all others are fine

      • RX-3200

        can you please add to you speeddial this link:
        https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/extensions

        is thumbnail from it good to you ?
        it’s show blank for me on last Dev bilds

        • Vux777

          it’s named localy (web-store >> web-trgovina) but it’s link from your post
          http://prntscr.com/37nj8q

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Now I see it. Indeed, the thumbnail shows a blank white rectangle. I thought bandIIt was talking about earth globe thumbnail issue, which was solved.

          P.S. It’s indeed a bug, as the site does not provide a logo icon like FB or Twitter—in that case, the context menu option Refresh would be disabled…

          • http://www.bandiit.eu/ bandIIt

            I was posting a reply with picture below just whe Opera crashed. After Opera restart all generated thumbnails are globes. (sites ‘natively’ showing thumbs do that still).

          • Dmitry Kirin

            That’s strange… Try deleting thumbnails.db* to force regeneration of thumbnails (back up the files somewhere).

          • http://www.bandiit.eu/ bandIIt

            For thumbnails generated by/for extensions it did not help. Same as above picture. Neither did help reinstalling extensions.

  • Barmton

    When is the printing issue going to be fixed? I’ve wasted too much paper and ink on crappy prints on Opera >:(

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Hmm, whicxh one(s)?

  • Vux777

    I know I’m gonna get down-voted for this, but…
    new main theme in dev build is awesome — sepia toned Tatra Mountains

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Why, why would you post a picture like that?… triggering the thoughts of mountains and freeride… as if today’s wonderful snowfall here in Moscow wasn’t enough… :)

      • Vux777

        seriously..snowfall?!

        we had almost summer day here (Croatia)

    • al_ghul

      yeah, tatras are, as we say, “sa w deche!” (awesome);P but the cross on the pick of beautiful Giewont on the left, was cropped! not good!;)

      • Vux777

        I don’t mind that ツ
        (cropping religious symbols)

        • al_ghul

          no, no, I meant the hill peak, not cross. for me it’s just a traditional symbol of tatra – giewont hill and the cross, not cross itself.

  • taneli

    Welp, switched back to old v20 to have even slightly usable browser, 21 & 22 are just not usable in any way (not even for casual users, like grandma’s). If you’re gonna go the Aura way, please fix all the issues with it.

  • dflyra

    1. a bug: not possible to install extensions from chrome web store – the extensions page comes up empty when trying to install.
    2. i couldn’t care less about the auto-update feature – why the fuss? it shouldn’t be a priority. The absolute priority is the bookmark manager.
    3. in general, and with the help of 35 extensions, i get a satisfactory browsing experience – it cannot be compared to 12.16 (opera presto has written a history in customization & innovations, that has to be taught in universities) but the browser is working. the thing is that cold start is far too slow – ff & chrome are at least two times faster. nevertheless when opera is up and running it is really fast.

  • Michael M.

    I can’t open links from external applications on this version! It promts that opera can’t open user’s directrory and I’ve got to contact administrator!

  • Dark Magician

    Zooms pop-up as well as the background page. (Next)

  • Marian Hornjak

    Bookmarks in Opera 25698!!!

    • Scribe_uk

      That soon! I might even live to see them.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Now I understand Darwin Theory, about the survival of those who adapt.

    • Jonathan Aanesen

      Bookmarks are already there mate :)

      • ForsakenFx

        Do you mean the Bookmark add-on? If so you’re clearly joking because it’s buggy, inefficient and unusable.

        The Stash feature? There is no way to organize or easily browse for a specific item when you do not know the name (Luckily I usually do, but still).

        Bookmark Bar? I have 2500+ bookmarks on Opera 12; a toolbar does nothing to help with that.

        So unless a bookmark feature is currently in the works and you’re teasing knowledge of such a feature, there is nothing worth even calling a bookmark manager available for Opera.

        • Jonathan Aanesen

          It’s a flag so it’s not finished developed, but it’s very useable :) works fine for me. You can activate it under opera://flags in your adress bar. Just search for “bookmarks” and then activate it.
          Edit: The bookmark bar is the bookmarks isn’t it? Also you can have folders there, so hope you find a way to sort all your bookmarks~

          • ForsakenFx

            The bookmark bar is not a bookmark manager. What people are requesting is a bookmark manager like there was in Opera 12, which is probably the most usable one I’ve seen.

            At least for my purposes, the bookmark bar is more in line with speed dial usage. I put things that are relatively important there which I will use often, but not as much as I use the speed dial.

            There is also no way in hell you’d keep your sanity with a large amount of bookmarks in the bookmark bar. Forget maintenance of them, just finding what you need would be complete and utter insanity.

  • Tomáš Pavlík

    http://blog.eischmann.cz/2014/02/24/co-se-stalo-s-operou/

    Anyone who can translate, read this.

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Well it’s just another article inspired by the well-known opinion of a former Opera employee who said Linux version had been ‘officially declared dead.’ The letter is still circulating, no matter how many times Opera devs and QA dismissed those rumours, how hard they tried to reach one’s sanity asking what would be the point of them promising a Linux version if it really had been discontinued.

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        We’ll see. :)

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          Well, maybe it makes you feel better to hear these words out of my mouth since I’m neither working for Opera nor using Linux. So I couldn’t care less about its existence, but having insight into Opera’s Bug Tracking System, I, too, can promise you that Linux version is actively being worked on ;)

          • bgh251f2

            Yeah, it’s not different of the empty promises of Opera employees…

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Tomáš, I suppose, that you would be interested in reading about this case, here.

      • Tomáš Pavlík

        Thanks. :)
        My nerves are about to break. :D I’ll go get another can of Pilsner Urquell and wait a little bit longer.

    • patrick

      sad. very sad. disgustingly sad. and people are still here? what are you doing? Unpaid testing for them? To be laughed in the face like we are stupid? Are people insane and stay here?

  • Martin Falke

    Ok, Opera have no H.264, WebM VP8, MSE & H.264 … Look: https://www.youtube.com/html5?hl=de
    When comes this? Sry. for my english.. :/

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Opera doesn’t support H264 and other proprietary codecs, it’s known.

      • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

        But will be support for it in the future?

      • RX-3200

        If Opera pretends to play the video by yourself – let Opera learn to use system codecs as well as do all the other s software video players

  • http://varabi.ovh.org/ Varabi

    Hi

    I have found a workaround to flickering text while animations – I mentioned some time ago about that (http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/10/welcome-to-the-new-home-of-desktop-blog/#comment-1104595286 ) and @pureocean write about that bug (http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera-developer-21-0-1432-5/#comment-1285149880 ).

    The issue is barely visible when ClearType is on and screen resolution is big. If ClearType is off – its like on screen posted by @pureocean.

    The problem can be temporarily removed by turn off flag “LCD text anti-aliasing”.

  • docwho

    “new opera 22 changelog:
    version number changed from 21 to 22″

    p.s. yeah, i’m saying that new features for each new version is a joke

  • patrick

    sluggish speed dial when I have a lot of things on it. heavy on recources, stuttering, what is this pos? where are bookmarks? Is stash the bookmark place? Very bad organized. Don’t need discover how do I disable it?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Well, this update method is something that many people had been requesting since a long time ago.

      • patrick

        huh? reading the comments here I am sure no one wanted it. Dont make me search all the comments from previous versions because I think you lie. This is no feature its a small turd presented as fine belgium chocolate.

        The more I use this pos the more dissapointed I get. No stacking tabs, wtf… no notes, no panels…. what is this shit. A TV browser?

        • Leonardo Gomes

          The possibility of upgrading through patches instead of need to download the whole package is something that had been requesting since the early times of Opera.

          • patrick

            Dude you think it is such a big deal downloading some more MB’s? and clicking on update now? And writing it down like it is a super feature? I would never write this down as a feature I would be so ashamed of myself as a browser developer having to present turds as belgian chocolates. Seems they do not know the word shame at all and are treating fans like we are stupid. Pity and shame for this pos.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            No, i don’t mind have to download the whole package every time. What i was saying is that this feature had lots of requests in the past.

          • Nekomajin42

            You would not say this if you had to pay for the amount of data you have downloaded, or if you had to use low bandwidth. Not everyone can use limitless high bandwidth connection. In fact, the majority can not.
            And yes, the majority is not educated enough, and use outdated software. If you would be a web developer, you would pray for silent update. (Of course, it should be optional for power users, but enabled default for the average.)

          • al_ghul

            ok, I understand if the dev version is like a laboratory mouse, but I wish that this un-full feature (it fills only some requests, but the same time it SHOULD be controlled option for some users who don’t want it) didn’t appear in STABLE version. this would be really wrong move…because each feature can fill needs of some ppl, but if it affects too much needs of other users – it should be an adjustable option! like in old opera or today ff/through extensions.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            I can agree that they should offer an option to disable it. However, i think that small silent updates will be the future for almost all software.

          • al_ghul

            well it is the future I agree, but NOW is the time when often there is a need to save internet transfer, to control some uncontrolled behaviour of software which sometimes lacks stability. they should make progress, not revolution! especially when the feedback shows that’s not a right way. when the time goes and the stability of such software will be a heavy fact, and mobile internet will be something usual, without limits, there’ll be era of common silent update…but also, from opposite side, there will always be a case when some software crash in bad time and that’s why all good softwares has that option in case of emergency (sometimes hidden for standard, dummy user)…

          • patrick

            Dude you think it is such a big deal downloading some more MB’s? and clicking on update now? And writing it down like it is a super feature? I would never write this down as a feature I would be so ashamed of myself as a browser developer having to present turds as belgian chocolates to people. Seems I know the word shame and I’m treating fans like intelligent people. Pity and shame for this. Uninstalling poser TV browser soon.

  • kupoo

    Goodbye Opera. I just finally switched to another browser, I chose Maxthon. It’s been more than 10 years since I started to use Opera, it feels like loosing a friend.

    • patrick

      you are not the only one mate, this is disgusting.

  • iemand

    When can we expect sync? I have 5 devices running Opera (smartphone, Android tablet, Windows tablet, laptop and desktop) and without sync it is a $*à0#% to maintain it. Seriously thinking of migrating back to Firefox for this reason :-/

    • Wraith

      I´m almost on the same boat bro.!

      • patrick

        count me in. worst TV browser ever.

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          Stop ranting please.
          If you don’t like it just use another browser.

          • rpsgc

            Using your own advice:

            If you don’t like the ranting, just don’t read it.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            Oh c’mon please.

          • Wraith

            Is not about ranting, It´s about to get the features that make Opera usable in differents machines.

    • Jonathan Aanesen

      You can try to use the synchronization flag, however it’s a flag and is far from finished developed. It works for me from time to time.

      • iemand

        I have it enabled a few days now, but it’s not available on the mobile browsers (not even in the beta channel). Also bit afraid of hick-ups.

  • al_ghul

    some preposition for developers: possibility to delete group of history entries – when I’m searching/filtering in history and get the desired results – when I want to delete filtered ones – I have to click X on each of them. There’ll be good to have some ticks/select_all options there to automaticly delete all/desired filtered content. Vote up, if it’s reasonable:)

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Maybe not for editing history, but I’d like such a database table editor for arranging bookmarks and maybe stash, to manipulate groups of items and without having to open bookmark menu for each operation.

      • al_ghul

        yeah that’ll be the best solution, like in firefox(and old opera) – one window with EDITING capabilities and an access to history, bookmarks etc. I didn’t mentioned that because this is obvious and at the same time far more challenge for developers at today stage of development…and a need to edition table without opening bookmark menu – absolutely RIGHT! it annoys the most!

  • rm

    Where the F is the linux version?????????????

  • Davit Babayan

    i can’t install this version it give “Dont’send error” on my windows xp

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Don’t know if it’s this build (Dev) or Facebook has broken something: after I close a photo and click Like, timeline rewinds to the top. Does anyone confirm it in Next or Stable?

    • Piotr “Piter432″ Żółtowski

      Confirmed on Opera 20.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It has been happening here since two or three versions ago.

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  • Томица

    ‘And one more – Dragonfly is not dead though we cannot give you more information yet.’ — Opera Desktop Blog, 29 May 2013.

    So it’s been almost a year, and apparently you still cannot give us any information about Dragonfly? Along with the lack of Linux version, I guess I should just stop expecting good news.

    • patrick

      Yes it’s called lying in your face, or “PR talk”.

      • Dmitry Kirin

        And where’s the lie exactly? A lie would be if they were giving you a precise date knowing they’d be failing to deliver the product by that date.

        • patrick

          if they would give a precise date and failed to deliver they would explain why and give a new date. that’s what serious and responsible people do

          • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

            Since no date was given there was no lie to start. You have to consider that at the time Dragonfly mightn’t be dead yet. There was/is no lie.

  • oic

    https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/tidy-bookmarks/?display=en

    what have happened to “tidy bookmark” add on? This was the best bookmark manager there and now its not available anymore?

    • patrick

      So it seems the only way for a “normal browsing experience” is to rely on amateurish extensions this time? And this is what happens? ROFL.

      • oic

        Yea, I’m a bit annoyed. There are some good opera extensions which kept me using opera. Now one of them is gone. The other good one is Zen Mark, but once they release a version for Firefox, I’ll be out of here

      • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        What’s “amateurish” about extensions?
        Some people dedicate a lot of time to develop great software. Extensions aren’t just senseless toys. They offer a perfect way to customize and add features to your browser.

        • patrick

          except when they are not working which was here the case, because…. amateur work, incompatibilities… also and most important… it is very lame to rely on others and not on your strength and competence as a company. Its like you invite a girl to your house and you bring food from delivery… cant get more lame.

          • al_ghul

            especially when we’re talking about some basic things like bkmks or smth…

        • oic

          theres no good bookmark manager extension on opera extension page. Most of them are crap. I’ve tried them all. Theres a few goods ones on chrome extension page
          - tidy bookmark
          - neater bookmark (not as good as tidy bookmark, can’t create folder, but look nicer)
          - recursive bookmark sorter (this one is great, it find duplicates/broken bookmarks)

          • al_ghul

            try tiny bookmark mod – vBookmark – IMHO it’s little better, and consider also simple bookmarks – many options

          • oic

            vbookmark? Where?

          • al_ghul

            I agree, I use also simple bookmarks, but vBookmarks has some useful options regarding mouse clicks that’s why I use mainly vBookmarks, which extents tidy bookmarks features – more e.g. right mouse button options. I forgot that vBookmars is not in opera official extensions page…(or was deleted some time) here: http://windviki.github.io/vBookmarks/

            once you download CRX file, simply drag it from folder to opera://extensions/ page and drop:) it works on opera 20, on O22 – there is extension bug, so extensions are not shown, but installed before – it works also. this extension has also useful options in context menu…

          • oic

            vbookmark is definitely better than “neat bookmark” and “neater bookmark”. Not only does it add folders, it also have an easy way of adding new bookmarks to it.
            I’ll use it with tidy bookmark

          • al_ghul

            yeah, vBkmks it’s quite efficient, simple and ellegant, well, maybe search doesn’t work so good, I haven’t noticed it yet, but good point! you can also control behaviour of menu after clicking bookmark entry,even with middle mouse button. well, maybe the owner didn’t proposed it them (he should – it works really good and I haven’t noticed any crashes, bugs etc.), and users have no interest in this (maybe they should, e.g. me, I’ll think about it:))

          • al_ghul

            well, I’m correcting myself – vBookmarks is neat bookmarks mod, not tidy bookmarks one…

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Oic, the Tidy Bookmarks extension on the Chrome Web Store. To install it in the new Opera, you can do this in two ways:
      1. first install the extension for Opera, then Tidy Bookmarks, or
      2. Install Tidy Bookmarks directly, using this link.

      • oic

        Thanks. Thats odd that it appears on chrome webstore but not opera. Opera needs it more than Chrome

      • patrick

        ROFL this is ridiculous what is the point of using Chrome’s extensions and not using Chrome also? Copying BY HACKING other browser’s extensions and pretend to be awesome AAA, ha ha ha what an abomination. Is this for real and serious? LMAO

      • x a

        „Tidy Bookmarks“ has had an apperance in Opera’s Addon store. Poclaimed author beeing „quej-sera-sera“.

        What happened? Is „quej-sera-sera“ the inital author? Did he retract the Extension from addons.opera.com? Was it removed by Opera? Blockt for specific channels? What’s the real license?

        • Vux777

          on chrome web-store, it’s the same extension with the same author… maybe it’s about copyright, Google have different agreement than Opera

        • patrick

          That why extensions suck and relying on them instead of developing your own for standard stuff like bookmarks is extremely lame.

        • L33t4opera

          Hi XA, I have no idea, maybe the Developer changed his mind, and decided to make it available only on the Chrome Web Store, but more probably reason is, that some of his extensions didn’t meet all of the Opera’s requirements, and BTW this extension is not the only one of his extensions, which have been removed from the extensions webpage. I suppose, that you should ask about this the Developer, or someone from the Opera.

      • patrick

        ROFL this is ridiculous what is the point of using Chrome’s extensions and not using Chrome also? Copying BY HACKING other browser’s extensions and pretend to be awesome AAA ha ha ha what an abomination!. Is this for real and serious? LMAO

        WHY YOU DELETE MY POST YOU $#^*&** ^*(&^(*)&**# !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        CANT HANDLE THE BITTER TRUTH HA??? THOUGHT SO.

        • L33t4opera

          With all due respect Patric, but I’m Opera user, and not an employee of the Opera, and therefore I’m not even a moderator of this blog, so in conclusion, I have no rights to delete your comments.

          • patrick

            I didn’t say that about you, your posts were fine. I wrote it down for the mod that did it.

        • Vux777

          can someone from moderators block this Loladin troll?

          • patrick

            No they should block you. But you are probably a good lobotomized fanboy aren’t you?

      • Rod Corkin

        You can find ‘Tidy Bookmarks’ in the Opera Add-ons!

        • L33t4opera

          Hi Rod, please read this.

          • Rod Corkin

            Thanks. A shame that it now resides only at Chrome, though of course we shouldn’t need this extension in any case…

    • patrick

      So it seems the only way for a “normal browsing experience” is to rely on amateurish extensions this time? And this is what happens? ROFL. gg

      YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH AND YOU DELETE MY POSTS. HOW LAME OF YOU.

  • Vux777

    softonic and cnet download pages get stuck when off-road is enabled. Only after disabling it, and page reload, download start. This wasn’t happening in previous builds

  • meh

    What if I don’t want Opera to create that task? o.O
    Why not something like this?

    http://i.imgur.com/lzmD1M4.png

    Why reinvent the wheel and make it square, when it’s clearly the best in a circular shape? smh

    • Nekomajin42

      I hope the devs will consider it.

      • patrick

        Dude… they would already do that if they wanted. They are not so stupid. They just don’t want to.

      • Fhury

        I hope so too and I hope a dev can explain the reasoning behind silent update. All this blah, blah in this blog is only to distract. Why would a browser concerned with safety bypass the UAC?
        Why would you want to silent update a beta version. I have been testing Opera long enough to remember loop crashes after updates. And what is the next step? Installing into the user folder like chrome does? And why work on this “feature”??? Perhaps I should not be surprised as this shows clearly what is a priority in Opera HQ.

        • Nekomajin42

          As much as I’d love to use a bookmark manager or other features, this update system is really important. It is everyone’s interest to use the latest build. It’s good for the users, the browser developers and the web developers.
          The average users, the majority, are not qualified enough to keep any software up-to-date. It’s a shame, but also the truth. The best is if they don’t know about it at all. Of course, there should be an option to disable the auto/silent update for the power users.
          And why is it in the dev/beta stream? Because it needs testing, and that’s why these streams exist.

        • Dmitry Kirin

          It does not bypass UAC. To run the task scheduler and do anything with the scheduled task, you’ve got to elevate privileges through UAC.

      • klasnic

        I’m sure they won’t.

    • SQL

      DEVELOPERS this option is NEEDED!! Please consider.. If you think it will confuse ‘regular users’ then make it a flag disabled by default!

    • Daniel

      Maybe New Age psychoanalytic way behavior, make me to love the ever useful square wheel, when arrive to almost square message box telling something like:
      “Failed loading launcher_lib.dll. Please, reinstall Opera.”,
      each time that I open the Opera Browser(download almost 125 MB each, again and again and don’t give up!). Combination of Silent update in Opera 20.0.1387.91(not easy way to disable), and apparent not backward to old hardware support in Opera 23.0.1522.72
      Any way, I like Opera Browser.
      Regards.

  • WB

    Thanks for the silent autoupdate. Its much better than the previous one.
    I hope we will have that on Opera stable as soon as possible too.

  • Vux777

    I usually always do clean usb install, but since this build have blank extension page ( and not being able to install some of the custom extension) I had to first install previous build, fill it with extensions and then upgrade it to latest.
    Result… crash every 2-3 min.
    bad build… bad ๏̯̃๏

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  • bwat47

    I hate to burst everone’s bubble, but auto updates are a good idea for browsers and should be enforced, even if just for security reasons.

    • Nekomajin42

      It’s good to be enabled by default, but there are reasons to let it disable optionally.

    • al_ghul

      I agree only when these are small patches which DON’T AFFECT main stability of browser and its main features – some really small improvements in e.g. look of gui etc. update for main features of browser – NO, because opera team is not as good and powerful as for example, google chrome one. in chrome it works nice, but not in such small team.

  • kabforks

    I, for one, welcome this change a lot. Thanks.

  • patrick

    Problem with new generation of Opera is that they feel not the SLIGHTEST SHAME about their inferior product and rely only on marketing tricks and PR talk about how the future will be awesome and blah blah blah. If someone reveals this truth they delete his posts. That good.

    I’ve head enough of this shit good luck to you with this TV browser. Keep waiting and waiting and waiting for something new and exciting to appear like FULL URL ADRESS in the next version.

  • seagal

    can not delete any extensions from browser, it does not work at all

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Check the know issues.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Seagal, you can try the “SimpleExtManager” extension, as a temporary workaround for this problem.

      • al_ghul

        it works quite well, thx for advise!:)

  • zeum

    Glad I switched to FF after Opera abandoned all its core users at v12 :)

  • Ghest

    Forgive me to post this here, but Opera stopped updating for me since you introduced the Aura interface. I get the launcher_lib.dll error and a solicitation for reinstall. It’s the same error that I get from Dota2. The reason here is the SSE instruction set not supported by my old(but sufficient) Athlon CPU. Either this can be fixed by dropping the SSE flag a notch or two during compilation or I must upgrade the PC.

  • Sina Elli

    Selecting Multiple Tabs (Ctrl + click) ???

    The ability to select multiple tabs (CTRL + click) and manipulating groups of tabs is a very useful feature that is missing now. I waited pateiently to see this in V 22 and it is still not there. chromium has this by default. in Opera tabs has to be moved one by one which is very frustrating.
    I usually open many tabs while working and I select several tabs and detach them all from the main window to create another window holding them. Opera does not even allow grouping tabs by domain, opener, …
    When can we expect to see this ?

    • Sina Elli

      any updates on this ?

  • Jan Banan

    Please release a new version with the fix for opera:extensions. Reddit without RES is unbearable :)

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Please use Opera Stable meanwhile.

      • Jan Banan

        I can gladly come to your office and press “Queue new build” for you if you want (I hope it’s that easy).

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Well, if you can’t deal with bugs then Opera Developer is not the correct version for you.

          • Jan Banan

            To be honest, I really hate your answer. But never mind, have a splendid day Leonardo Gomez, I hope it is extremely great and awesome.

  • https://jan.segre.in/ Jan Segre

    Well, it’s starting to look like chrome (not chromium), still waiting the features that made me use Opera in the first place…

  • shane

    Trying to open links from other applications I now get the error:

    Opera
    Can’t open user profile directory, because you lack sufficient privileges. You might want to contact the administrator of this machine.
    OK

    Pretty sure it’s a result of this new update mechanism and UAC etc.

    EDIT: I see this has already been reported.

    • DenisConqueror

      It’s heppend only when Opera alredy open. Try to close it and open links that you want. It’s work) Opera start with what you need. But it’s realy not so simple to use)

  • DenisConqueror

    Hi. I have big problem with last few dev builds (next also). My gmail page always refreshing In a circle. I reinstall Opera as clean sheet – problem still with me. It very annoying, i can’t even read my e-mails. If you need some more info, report or what ever, i’d be glad to do it. But just tell me how? ) where i shuld write else, to make dev team hearing about my problem?
    P.S. I have same version of Opera on my workplace, and it’s work fine. At home some times even google.com refresh in circle (gmail – always, google – some times :) )

    • Marko Koivuniemi

      Interesting. I haven’t noticed so far. Do you have any extension or page settings that could cause that? (by the way – I like to use Gmelius-extension which cleans up a bit Gmail.

      • DenisConqueror

        No, i just make fresh install of Opera. With no extansion, all settings by default. Same in Gmail settings. Maybe my hardware, don’t know. But still can’t finde way to make it work. For now i’m using stable version at home to read mail, and dev for all other)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    In Facebook messaging, the search feature crashes the tab in 100% cases with this build. Click the search button, enter a search text, press Enter, and the tab will crash. No problem in the latest Next.

  • Michael Maier

    Noone else who have problems with Disqus on this site?

    Sometimes I have to reload this site dozens of times to see the comments.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Lately I have problems with Disqus in all sites.

    • Vux777

      I have problems with disqus dashboard…my comments and replies are not shown (skipped), or I get that “ooops ” message (empty board)
      but never here…

      maybe some of you extensions is blocking it

      • Michael Maier

        Mmmh .. difficult …
        I also thought, but without any extensions it isn’t different.
        And … when it’s shown once, there are no problems any more.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’m having problems with the email notifications. Sometimes it gets days to arrive, sometimes it seems repeated.

  • siamak

    Hi Devs, I instaled the latest developer and set to show full adress bar but still showing me simple adress bar, why ?

  • nanana1

    Opera Next 21 Build 39 is now available for testing !

  • SQL

    2 weeks without a single next build?

  • UMaster 7

    any news about sync of Opera on to different PCs? Bookmarks, Speeddial, Stash, Settings, Extensions, …

    PS: Thanks a lot for auto update :)

  • http://www.operaturkiye.net/ Mağruf Çolakoğlu

    Will we see a new dev. buil today?

  • Vux777

    what is the downside of tab hibernation?
    besides obvious delay of JS events (that is actually desirable, there is even flag for it) and Ajax calls, what else is downgraded?
    I didn’t noticed any delays or scroll freezing when switching on hibernated tab….
    I’m asking because, why wouldn’t tabs hibernate immediately if opened in bg (after onload), or when loosing focus, so that only one (active) tab is fully “alive”.
    That 40 sec delay is too big domain. In that period lots of actions could happen, and actual gain (freeing memory) is not so obvious.

    btw. I’ve noticed in latest dev, that hibernated tabs use double or triple memory then in previous build. It’s not much of a difference (from ~700kb to ~2000 kb), but…
    btw2. why FB pages won’t hibernate? because of https or…?

    • Dmitry Kirin

      Facebook won’t hibernate because of periodical XMLHttpRequest activity. When JavaScript is switched off, it hibernates normally.

      • Vux777

        yea, but they should somehow make those tabs hibernate (with JS on)… every FB tab is 50-80 megs, I (and probably others too) tend to open tabs in bg from FB wall for later reading…

        • Dmitry Kirin

          Yes, I’d like that too. But it may be hard or even impossible. Suppose we have two background tabs, FB for later reading, another FB with chat, and some Youtube with music. It means that we want the browser to somehow determine that the first FB can be unloaded, the second one cannot, because we’re waiting for friends to post a message to the chat, and Youtube can’t be unloaded because we listen to the music. Facebook seems to be not optimised for running in multiple tabs: all its tabs will request for its statuses, change page title, and display that lousy small chat window…

  • moto0000

    Maybe add the option to add cutom thumb (or logo) to speedial

  • kabforks

    Bug: Google search now defaults to Norwegian (google.no) and I have NO WAY of changing it.

    1. Type whatever in adressbar.
    2. Search
    3. Search results are from google.no domain-

    * My OS is English, my Opera install is english.
    * My very own Google search preferences have English as preferred language.
    * Googles set preferred domain, https://www.google.no/setprefdomain?prefdom=US have no effect.

    This leads me to suspect Opera.

    Drives me nuts beyond words. Please fix.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It’s not a bug, Opera uses your computer’s locale.

      You can edit Local State to fix it:

      • kabforks

        Well thats terrible news. No Google search for me then.

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          What happens, if you create your own search engine? A second Google search with your own letter.

          • kabforks

            Yeah I did that, but I went with DuckDuckGo when I first needed to prefix with a letter.

      • IllusionMH

        Does Opera team has plans to make option to pick default languages for Wikipedia, Google, etc. ?

        “Change system settings” because of browser is bad idea.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          As i said, you can edit the Local State file but probably you’ll need to do it on every update.

          I don’t know if sucho option will be added, maybe in the future.

          • klasnic

            Which is really pathetic.

    • klasnic68

      “It’s not a bug, Opera uses your computer’s locale.”

      In other words… you are ****ed.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi Kabforks, you can change this in easy way, just follow the below steps:
      1. Close the Opera, go to the Opera user profile directory
      (you can find the path in O-Menu>About Opera>Paths>Profile),
      2. Open the “Local State” file, and change the values for the “country”, and the “country_from_server” as follows:
      "location": {
      "country": "US",
      "country_from_server": "US",
      or if you prefere en-GB (.co.uk):
      "location": {
      "country": "GB",
      "country_from_server": "GB",
      3. Save the changes, close the file, and reopen the Opera.

  • Sidney Moraes

    Put some Stash customizations!!!

    • klasnic

      They won’t do it, it is like that since O15.

    • Sho

      Yes, if they only added folder-tree-like organization and a few other features to Stash, it could turn into a very good bookmarks manager. In this state, it’s close to useless.

      • klasnic

        Yes stash and not speed dial should be the bookmarks place and people are saying this since the beginning of Chropera… but who’s listening…

  • Vux777

    DirectWrite flag in Opera doesn’t do anything.

    Here is the article about chrome 35 and differences when flag is on/off

    no change in Opera… at least in my case

    • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

      Yeah, happens to me too, on Windows 8.1 64-bit.

  • Leonardo Gomes

    I guess people will start to have withdrawal symptoms without a new build for so long. :-)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    A bug with this build: In the download list popup, some long file names are shown with some gradient-like black bar. Not all long names are affected. After Opera start, first time they are shown correctly, but starting from the second opening of the popup, they’re shown with that glitch.

    • IllusionMH

      Same problem. First time – nice fadeout with white overlay, than overlay is black.

      Win7 SP1 x64
      Win8.1 Update x64 (clean install)

      • Dmitry Kirin

        Oh I didn’t even realise it was supposed to be a fadeout. :)

  • Кostadin

    No Happy Easter dev build today? Where the holiday spirit? ;-)

    • Leonardo Gomes

      The day hasn’t ended yet, so there’s still some hope.

    • L33t4opera

      In anticipation of the “delicious bananas“, or “small Easter eggs”, or maybe for the “one big Easter egg” from the Opera, in the meantime, let us have some fun from Bruce Lawson, and his kids ;-)

  • UMaster 7

    will this google search field in speed dial finally be removed? unneeded cause we got the address bar ;)

  • fauske51

    when the new build?

    • http://twitter.com/rluik Rafael Luik

      After the Easter holidays, I imagine. :)

  • Dmitry Kirin

    There is a regression in this build with picking up an item from url history in address bar. Supose I have in it some web site: website.com, website.com/page1, website.com/page2, …
    If I type “website.com” in the address bar and press Enter, another item is opened, even if I select it without any page. In the latest Next (.39), it works fine.

  • UMaster 7

    thanks for fixing long search key words like using auxilium for search engine of http://www.auxilium-online.net/wb/formenanalyse.php

    doesn’t work in Opera 20, but does work in 22 dev :D

  • Heimen Stoffels

    And of course, still no Linux version yet. What a surprise. Opera totally doesn’t care about Linux anymore. Sad. In the meantime, even Maxthon ported itself to Linux. Where is the old Opera team that did care about Linux and did care about the community?

  • Sakari Rajamäki

    New Opera (versions after 12.16) has a great big flaw.
    It is missing proper dedicated bookmarks feature and bookmarks manager.

    New Opera’s Bookmarkbar and speeddial do not even come close to replacing old Opera’s
    Bookmarks manager and Bookmarks side panel.

    The suggested bookmarks extension as a replacement for proper bookmarks manager does not work.
    Bookmarks extension is pretty useless if you have large bookmark collection.
    It does not remember the last opened bookmark folder. So every time you open it, it start prom the top of the bookmarks folder tree. :-(

    I admit that if you have a small bookmark collection you could get along with new Opera’s bookmark fea-tures. But your bookmark collection sould be in the neighborhood of few tens or hundreds. If your book-mark collection is bigger you need a proper bookmarks manager and suitable bookmarks user interface (Bookmarks Side Panel).

    For myself: I have a very extensive bookmarks collection accumulated over the years of Opera usage. It is in the neighborhood of 10 000+.

    I have been patiently waiting for Opera programming gurus to come up with similar bookmarks features as the old Opera had or at least workable bookmarks features. So far my wait has been to no avail. I’m still stuck with old Opera v12.16 and desperately waiting for new Opera to have usable bookmarks features.

    I cannot imagine that I’m alone with my gripes about new Opera’s in adequate bookmark features.

    For example this forum thread agrees with my opinions:

    https://vivaldi.net/en/forum/browsers/144-who-uses-bookmarks-anyway

    To Opera programmers:

    Please Pretty Pretty Please reinstate old Opera’s Bookmarks manager and Bookmarks side panel.

    rajamsa
    FINLAND

    • Guest

      try vbookmarks – it remembers opened bkmk folder position or tidy bookmarks – it’s similar:) of course I agree that generic bkmks manager is needed.

    • al_ghul

      you’re not alone, bro:) try vbookmarks – it remembers opened bkmk folder position or tidy bookmarks – it’s similar:) of course I agree that generic bkmks manager is needed.

  • Vux777

    sessions api is not recognized in dev chanel
    will you implement it in next dev build/version?

  • Dmitry Kirin

    Usage statistics files (ssdfp*) are multiplying in the profile folder and do not go away. The oldest one is of April, 13, seemingly unrelated to an update.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I only have one of those files here.

      • Dmitry Kirin

        Yeah, it used to be just one file. But something has probably happened and now there are 58 of them. Not a blocking problem, of course. I’m just notifying something might’ve got broken there.

        • Vux777

          In my case, those files started to appear after every session last year (5-6 months ago) in every build.
          Been complaining, but nobody from devs responded

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          Oh really, I can confirm this. 157 files! I have never had this before.

  • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

    Is there a new build coming this week? It needs to be released today or tomorrow, with annoying bugs fixed. :/

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Opera 12.17 is ready for download.

      • http://pavelkouril.cz/ Pavel Kouřil

        New build of Opera Developer, obivously. :/

        The old presto-based opera is too slow, unfortunately…

  • L33t4opera

    New build for the Opera Developer: 22.0.1471.5.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      The bugs seem to be away, except the “-back-back-back”-bug in Youtube (Opera always adds a “-back” to the url, if you watch a search result and go back – after a while there is no more search result or it’s another one).

  • Guest

    Nice delta updates

  • brendan

    make getting updates optional… set the flag to true to begin with so your average user gets updates automatically, but the option should be there to turn it off.

  • Desenvolvedor Lucas Rafael

    Hey guys, big news, download the developer version and enter opera:flags, you’ll see hints aboux linux platform. Unbeliveable, will this Opera 22 marks the start of linux distribution of Opera? Glad to see that linux is back!

  • Indian_Art

    Why has Opera forsaken Linux????? Why????

  • Opera has gone to crap

    Known issues (should be)
    Lack of Opera sync
    what happened to mask/identify as other browsers?
    Lack of turn off auto updates button
    …….
    Never really followed Opera news too closely but Opera really changed after 2011 and after digging around, found out why http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/02/07/opera_founder_its_all_gone_to_crap/ :/